Fat Shark Dominator Avatar HD FPV Antenna Info - Constantly Transmit

[@MadRC]

Hi Everyone. @ 5:19 I say 3 receiving and 4 transmitting. That’s a misspeak. It’s 3 receiving and 1 transmitting as I discuss earlier.

[@tomjenson9053]

Ian, is there enough length on the internal UFL pigtail, to swap the transmit SMA position from the top, to the front? So the patch antenna can be more conveniently placed for longer range flights.

[@MadRC]

Yes you could do this. Plenty there. You could Easley move 1 to the front

[@zsolezk]

Could you recommend antenna upgrades for these goggles?

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting indeed, Ian! Thanks!!! 😃 I don't know what the advantage would be to work this way... But it's pretty interesting to see the differences! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@FPVian]

At 5:23 you accidentally said that there are 3 antennas receiving and 4 transmitting. Just wanted to clear that up in case it confused anyone.

[@MadRC]

Hahaha that’s a bad one.I’m going to pin this

[@FPVian]

Just watching out for my fellow Ian’s

[@marcusp2905]

Just thinking if the TX will also output with the same power as the vtx?

[@smoke2584]

Cool. Ive waited for this stuff!

[@baggszilla]

Awesome! Thanks Ian!

[@windfpv]

Walsknail is a 2x2 MIMO, don't you think it should have another port that transmits but not power amplified though unlike ANT1?

[@pacospete4299]

New to this hobby ...... should i wait and see if DJI is coming out with a better solid product this year ????

[@testpilotian3188]

Might be worth waiting a month or so but don’t wait too long cost you’ll get into the same cycle my friend has of always waiting “just in case something better is launched next month”. I bough DJI two years ago and he has spend the last two years waiting to see if something better comes out, then when he finally decided to buy DJI they was out of stock everywhere, then Fatshark announced their thing and he said he would wait for that, then they announced how much and he was like “maybe DJI will launch something cheaper later in the year”, even if Walksnail bought out a 4K system tomorrow, I still wouldn’t change.

[@pacospete4299]

@@testpilotian3188 Thank You for the reply.... to me it seems when DJI introduces a new product it's pretty solid from the get-go , but with the other manufactures it's a race to get the product on the market and work out the bugs as they develop ...Thanks Again !!!!

[@nitronut1723]

@@pacospete4299 I think the WalkSnail goggle is more Beta product than what we are typically used to in FPV. Not unheard of to have bugs but the Avatar System has more than typical. I'm worried with all these systems running different RF modes that it will be more difficult for folks to get together and fly FPV without the signals crashing into one another. This makes HDZero more attractive in some areas.

[@h2o40fpv]

thank u Ian great video

[@lorinwingtips5290]

Awesome review! It looks like the thermal compound on the goggles is as bad as the VTX, though I suspect that isn't really an issue for the goggles

[@MadRC]

Yea it’s not great.

[@WesleyChevez]

So is it fine if i run the goggles without antennas for temporary use while while I wait on my antennas

[@StickJockeyFPV]

Could you use a long RP-SMA Extension Cable on the transmitter port to the antenna to reduce any radiation to your head without affecting the communication? I know it's non-ionizing radiation, just wanting to be cautious.

[@MadRC]

Potentially yes. There is always the loss you will get but you may be surprised how little affect it has.

[@jimmytheriot8978]

I ran two Vas victory stubbys on top with two Lumiere dualities on bottom for my 2 mile flight but will try the top next flight

[@FrenzyIncarnate]

stylish 😎

[@cathrerinezetadrones3169]

Sweet!

[@Bill-NM]

Does antenna 1 transmit AND receive? Or just transmit? Thanks...

[@sten6537]

Good info! So a patch on the TX ant1 gives more range. But what if you fly behind yourself or outside the patch range. Will your image freeze of drops black. What happens then? My guess is a patch on ant1 is only usable if flying long range in front of you.

[@cinemoriahFPV]

Your guess is correct. If you want to bando then use an omni. This has always been the norm even with analog.

[@sten6537]

I also have a question regarding the channels. Would you suggest one of the 8 channels to fly in to get the best signal (low noise)

[@MadRC]

Generally 1-3 are always better as the antennas and PA tend to be tuned towards the lower end.

[@cinemoriahFPV]

7

[@dieterweik6858]

You suggested in a previous video that this product felt like a Beta version. A future s/w update could change that constant transmit behavior. With the bottom antennas in that configuration, aren't you essentially pointing the antenna null at the drone?

[@MadRC]

Yea they are not well placed imo. I would be putting patches on the bottom and omni on the top that’s for sure for longer term use. But also take into account many tilt their heads down as they fly.

[@wyaotan5271]

From its design, can it be HDMI input or AV input?

[@MadRC]

No

[@calabrese221]

Does this set up have to be turned on with permissions from China such as setting up an account like dji? Or does it just work out of the box?

[@MadRC]

No registration required.

[@marc_frank]

why is there solder mask over all the test points?

[@cinemoriahFPV]

Reasons

[@mdk42o74]

i would love to see if there would be away to mod them to get video in.

[@MadRC]

Sadly no easy way at all other than basically building a new goggle

[@Sir_Hubris]

Cerdit ? hehehe ... That's Mad(s) Tech thingy L0L ... thx Ian ¶ ; - )

[@testpilotian3188]

That’s different to DJI that only transmits when it finds a paired Air Unit. Another thing we found with DJI is if you unplug the power of your googles the Air/Vista unit they’re paired to also goes into low power mode, we was watching a friend in 700mw mode and he crashed quiet a walk away (about 200 meters) in a fit of ragequit he unplugged his headset before Turing the power down (none of us run auto temp control) and his Air Unit went into Low power mode and effectively stopped transmitting until we were almost stood on top of it, as soon as he plugged his headset bs k in, it went back to full power transmission.

[@MadRC]

Yea DJI the VTX on signal loss jumps back to channel 8 and transmits on basics output till it receives a connection again. Avatar is opposite and the overall RF behaviour is better. I’ll be doing a more in-depth look at that in the coming weeks.

[@13FPV]

5:19 *ONE transmitting!

[@verdi6092]

I dont think even fatshark knows about this 😁

[@EnglishTurbines]

Great info, very useful....🤔😳😀🇬🇧