Fate, Family, and Oedipus Rex: Crash Course Literature 202

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@sarahmccausland7035
@sarahmccausland7035 4 жыл бұрын
Freud: It's called the Oedipus Complex, every man secretly wants to sleep with his mother Oedipus who just gouged out his own eyes and exiled himself because death was not enough of a punishment for what he had done: IT'S CALLED THE WHAT?!!!??!!
@geniesolos
@geniesolos 8 жыл бұрын
I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS KIDDING HE ACTUALLY WROTE THE FAULT IN OUR STARS
@hellocatz7482
@hellocatz7482 8 жыл бұрын
+Gene Garland lol
@Toscalily
@Toscalily 8 жыл бұрын
My GOD!! I never realised he was the same John Green. This is like my first John video, I've always been more of a Hank Green fan. I had no bloody clue and now I feel like an idiot!! Also, how did this guy write that? Why do I find it so hard to believe??
@coltbolt6193
@coltbolt6193 7 жыл бұрын
lol, I've always seen the book but never the author
@tandi1082
@tandi1082 7 жыл бұрын
he's in the film too
@minamoon01
@minamoon01 7 жыл бұрын
wow I was listening to him thinking it would be a shame of someone so enthusiastic about literature didn't write something turns out he wrote a very successful novel I didn't read it though my cousin did she liked it I thought the author must've been a woman cause from what I've gathered it's a young adult romance novel? I don't read young adult novels, they make me wanna kill myself but that's admirable
@thefaceofawsomeness491
@thefaceofawsomeness491 8 жыл бұрын
"They also wrote tragedies!" That was perfect.
@getvasued
@getvasued 6 жыл бұрын
Came looking all the way for this comment!
@Talyakmai
@Talyakmai 5 жыл бұрын
Eska or desna?
@logansh7898
@logansh7898 5 жыл бұрын
I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING THAT WAS HILARIOUS
@alysaloha
@alysaloha 5 жыл бұрын
And so does John
@sailsaturnssea
@sailsaturnssea 10 жыл бұрын
"Father Killer, and a mother ...." This is why I love John Green.
@a.j.4076
@a.j.4076 9 жыл бұрын
Everyone said it in their brains. Had to pause the video to laugh a bit in appreciation. Btw, why Father with capital F and mother with normal m?
@astrusofficial
@astrusofficial 9 жыл бұрын
A. J. Probably because "father" was the beginning of the sentence
@andrewrodden3725
@andrewrodden3725 9 жыл бұрын
A. J. Btw, why Everyone with a capital F and brains with a normal b?
@a.j.4076
@a.j.4076 9 жыл бұрын
Well I guess both of you failed to see the pun. Can't have everything I guess.
@adityasrinivasulu
@adityasrinivasulu 7 жыл бұрын
A. J. Nope, I stared at your statement for ages, but I still can't see a pun. Explain?
@DaytakTV
@DaytakTV 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else get extremely angry and sad that the great Library of Alexandria was burned?
@gigatrooper5098
@gigatrooper5098 4 жыл бұрын
ye
@sharmilairom2102
@sharmilairom2102 4 жыл бұрын
It's one of the old myths that Crash Course just repeats. Modern beliefs tend to argue that the Great Library was destroyed the same way all Libraries are destroyed over centuries of lack of government funding and neglect. A journalist did quite a good book investigating ancient sources. But it prolly wasn't one event. Nor was the library just a storage space for books it functioned also like a university or research faciility. But yes it is sad that so many texts were lost.
@valdemarmark629
@valdemarmark629 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that this story tells us, that you cannot understand the consequences of actions, so if the Great Library wasn't burned, we would likely not exist. At least if a phrophecy of your birth doesn't exists:)
@jadebabydoll23
@jadebabydoll23 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.... yes we do
@tensequel7818
@tensequel7818 7 жыл бұрын
he wrote 123 plays, and we got seven of them, I feel bad for the guy who worked hard for them but 116 of them didn't survive
@humanityyy
@humanityyy 4 жыл бұрын
how did we know that Sophocles wrote 123 plays? Was it ever cited? (genuinely asking a question here)
@TripHazard808
@TripHazard808 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, greeks almost never performed a story more than once, shows were almost always brand new under usual circumstances. And on top of that they usually weren't written down, many were expected to be forgotten once the play was done. The fact that any survived to the modern day is the crazy part.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 8 жыл бұрын
And that's where we get the term "Oedipus Complex" from Oedipus: Fuck you, I didn't even know she was my mother
@sirknight4981
@sirknight4981 7 жыл бұрын
Yah I know right, that always bothered me!
@the_cosmic_alexolotl2282
@the_cosmic_alexolotl2282 9 жыл бұрын
"Ignorance is bliss, but bliss is boring."
@DANGER10101
@DANGER10101 5 жыл бұрын
Well you wouldn't know so still a bliss
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 4 жыл бұрын
@@DANGER10101 stamp
@DSFARGEG00
@DSFARGEG00 10 жыл бұрын
Oedipus Rex, the worst dinosaur.
@TheSH1N1GAM1
@TheSH1N1GAM1 10 жыл бұрын
Wait, are you telling me that I wasn't supposed to preform a ritualistic animal sacrifice before voting?
@sion8
@sion8 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was that not tolled to at the polls?
@ediesongbird3163
@ediesongbird3163 4 жыл бұрын
TheSH1N1GAM1 it’s optional
@mcglk
@mcglk 8 жыл бұрын
" . . . and they also wrote tragedies." As it turned out, that was well-timed; I had to wipe the water I was drinking off my monitor.
@anaschon
@anaschon 8 жыл бұрын
or did they write sins?
@ciara947
@ciara947 8 жыл бұрын
+Ana Schon I approve this reference.
@blixxsage5775
@blixxsage5775 7 жыл бұрын
They talk comedic tragedy. Where one goes to do something to prevent something and ends up causing what they we're trying to fix to be worse unexpectedly. I think they must reference some kind of devine paradox.
@KCMMFB
@KCMMFB 8 жыл бұрын
Father killer and mother-- *john stops talking* hahahaha
@childintime6453
@childintime6453 6 жыл бұрын
Miguel Fernando Bilan Some guy also says a line like that at the end of the the tragedy if I remember correctly
@66Roses
@66Roses 8 жыл бұрын
I've always found the mistake of many Greek heroes to be the instinct to run from their fate, rather than confront it. Had Oedipus presented the prophecy and his concerns about it to the king and queen of Corinth, he would have learned the truth of his heritage and might not have ever traveled to Thebes.
@yoyoeldas
@yoyoeldas 8 жыл бұрын
66 Roses But then many of these Greek heroes' parents try to kill their children to escape from "their" fate. Guess Oedipus just got terrified reading these stories on the news xd
@zonule_
@zonule_ 7 жыл бұрын
that doesn't work. Laios and Jocasta had already tried to thwart the prophecy by trying to kill eddie. so they were due their retribution before he ever made the choice to leave corinth
@blixxsage5775
@blixxsage5775 7 жыл бұрын
He could have prevented that fate from happening by doing a few things. He was a fool though and decided to kill and marry without thinking.I could have decided. No I will not do this. And then live his life as a hermit or something "
@FreeSkillsStyle
@FreeSkillsStyle 7 жыл бұрын
What would have been the point of the story? ahahaah
@spritualelitist665
@spritualelitist665 6 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the story is: There is no escaping fate.....:/
@AnnaWoods
@AnnaWoods 6 жыл бұрын
I keep getting distracted by that yellow book with red writing next to John cause it looks like a toblerone package
@thethomass2770
@thethomass2770 6 жыл бұрын
same! lol
@victoriamonroe3888
@victoriamonroe3888 6 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@skillerbg
@skillerbg 6 жыл бұрын
I got distracked by Titus
@dinab1957
@dinab1957 6 жыл бұрын
the yellow one is "KILLING THE FAITH"
@allyabernathy4098
@allyabernathy4098 6 жыл бұрын
this comment is so old, but it’s the amazing adventures of kavalier and clay by michael chabon!!!! best book ever!!
@Kolly_er
@Kolly_er 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that Oedipus does NOT have an Oedipal complex because I got confused with one of my literature questions. It was asking me how does the Oedipal complex apply to the story and I, having read and fully understood the story, was really confused because as you said, he never *wanted* to kill his father in the first place.
@Jenny-vw3rt
@Jenny-vw3rt 10 жыл бұрын
I am German and we just read that book in school and can I just thank you for this amazing video? Though it was in English John Green made me understand the story of Ödipus better than 3 weeks of German class. He explained everything in the best way and helped me a lot. Now I just have to convince my teacher to watch this in school as a summary, thank you so much John Green!
@nicolep168
@nicolep168 4 жыл бұрын
john: Aristotle me: oh a respected philosopher john: whom i DESPISE me: ew aristotle, icky
@hackneyedstudios4699
@hackneyedstudios4699 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, kinda tainted by the fact that he was a huge misogynist and racist. Different times though ig
@nicolep168
@nicolep168 4 жыл бұрын
@@hackneyedstudios4699 apperently he supported slavery. Yikes
@sharmilairom2102
@sharmilairom2102 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicolep168 You do know he lived 2.5k years ago. No ancient writer questions the use of slaves. What would you say later generations would accuse us of and be astonished that we never even questioned the practice. Hint there's always something.
@nicolep168
@nicolep168 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharmilairom2102 that's a good point
@shivimohan
@shivimohan 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharmilairom2102 the entire point of being a philosopher is that you're supposed to think hard about stuff and question it. if this "great" philosopher spent all his time thinking so much and came to the conclusion that some people are simply meant to be slaves then he was a fuckwad, even for those times
@drummerreshma
@drummerreshma 8 жыл бұрын
I love the graphics for the crash course series! The animated characters are so cute!
@myralianna5388
@myralianna5388 6 жыл бұрын
I loved The Theban Plays. It was tragically beautiful. My favorite quote is from when he gouges his eyes out. “Til bloody tests ran down his beard- not drops But in full spate a whole cascade descending In drenching cataracts of scarlet rain”. I got chills when I read that.
@strfiretiger123
@strfiretiger123 10 жыл бұрын
Oh I recognized the green light symbol! (Great Gatsby, I will never forget your lovely symbolism.) Also very subtle advertising of Crash Course Psychology and TFIOS, very subtle indeed.
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын
There once was a man named Oedipus Rex; You may have heard about his odd complex; His name appears in Freud's index; Because he LOVED his mother...
@mimicici13
@mimicici13 10 жыл бұрын
Hooray for Tom Lehrer!
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 10 жыл бұрын
I am but a midget standing on the shoulder of a giant. Sorry if you are a midget, or a giant.
@josephnelson4690
@josephnelson4690 10 жыл бұрын
Perfect opportunity to use "mother Faulkner" wasted! I miss literary curse-word substitutions.
@crashcourse
@crashcourse 10 жыл бұрын
John Green talks Fate, Family, and Oedipus Rex on the most recent episode of CrashCourse Literature. Fate, Family, and Oedipus Rex: Crash Course Literature 202
@indefinitedelay
@indefinitedelay 10 жыл бұрын
Father-killer and a mother, you know. I'm dying...
@Prophes0r
@Prophes0r 10 жыл бұрын
Aren't you are judging the character of Oedipus a bit too much by today's standards? He was much closer to the ideal Greek in personality and drive than you seem to give him credit for. One of the things that this play introduced (as far as we know) is the idea that a character's greatest triumph, the action that makes them the hero, can also be their tragic downfall. I would say that this still puts it in the realm of tragedy, though it is much more on the fringe than other plays.
@emilyschrader23
@emilyschrader23 10 жыл бұрын
Nathan Leung isn't he supposed to say authors names instead of swearing?
@Animenite97
@Animenite97 10 жыл бұрын
John Green got any tips on analyzing literature's deeper meaning. I don't get and I like fully understand what I take part in
@TheFireflyGrave
@TheFireflyGrave 10 жыл бұрын
In this story; John is a mostly good character who makes a big mistake; trusting Aristotle. He later has a recognition and a reversal.
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 10 жыл бұрын
No Kardashians in Star Wars, but there are Cardassians in Star Trek.
@derekjohnson2465
@derekjohnson2465 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought exactly
@Doomroar
@Doomroar 10 жыл бұрын
We need crash curse philosophy to see you fighting with Aristotle.
@EmperorTikacuti
@EmperorTikacuti 10 жыл бұрын
I agree and I want to learn who Aristotle is.
@whiteowl1415
@whiteowl1415 10 жыл бұрын
DW42536387384 In short.... Student of Plato who was in turn a student of Socrates. Teacher of Alexander the Great Polymath Arguably, the root of the scientific method. While not a direct parallel, Aristotle emphasized the concept of measurable evidence and avoidance of subjective values in examining the world.
@whiteflagstoo
@whiteflagstoo 10 жыл бұрын
DW42536387384 Invented the syllogysm Had a lot to say on nearly every subject and, while Plato did this too, he had a general theory of knowledge, and classified the kinds of information. Mostly known for unifying the thoughts of earlier Greeks, who he thought were concerned with the nature of change, by explaining the four causes.
@crazyolmaisie
@crazyolmaisie 10 жыл бұрын
Ohmanohmanohman that would be the best!
@aaronsrowe
@aaronsrowe 10 жыл бұрын
DW42536387384 For the most part in Philosophy you either agree with Plato or you agree with Aristotle.
@Merugaf
@Merugaf 9 жыл бұрын
Did you just make a reference to a certain 20th century book, old sport?
@MegaKoutsou
@MegaKoutsou 9 жыл бұрын
+Pompus Ivictus I salute you sir, even though I must say comparing the Kardashians to Scott Fitzgerald is sacrilege...
@peanutbuttercracker1
@peanutbuttercracker1 8 жыл бұрын
+Pompus Ivictus I've only seen a few episodes of this series and so far he's referenced said book quite a bit.
@mansoorzia9155
@mansoorzia9155 7 жыл бұрын
Pompus Ivictus which book?
@MrRemicas
@MrRemicas 10 жыл бұрын
According to one of my professor, the play was written at a time a law about involuntary homicide was created in Athens, so the debate about fate and free will was vibrant in the city.
@colourmegone
@colourmegone 10 жыл бұрын
One thing Mr Green forgot to mention is that if you weren't a male citizen and you were caught attending a play you would be tortured to death in public. Athenian society was a great historical culture. It laid the basis for many of the ideas we still pursue, but it was part of the ancient world, which wasn't just another country but a truly different world and completely alien to our modern understanding. It was the beginning of our attempts to understand the world around us but, like all human beginnings, it was steeped in ignorance and delusion.
@jenefurrrox
@jenefurrrox 10 жыл бұрын
I agree, but to say it was a different world makes it sound like they operated under different moral codes. moral codes are not decided by humans, they exist outside of us. if we accept that morality supersedes human perception, and also accept that everyone has access (particularly the greeks) to the tools of logic, every culture has the capacity to come to the understanding that slavery and the oppression of women is wrong
@reasonnottheneed
@reasonnottheneed 10 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Kellett Why would morality supersede human perception? If we removed all the humans from the world, there would be no morality nor any use or want of it because there wouldn't be any humans to perceive of it. I think moral codes are entirely decided by humans, but not like laws that are created and struck down, but that evolve from society and from culture. We think many things the Greeks did were wrong, but we can only see from our own perspective. Perhaps one day people will look back on us, and think all lot of what we did was wrong. Certainly, if ancient Greeks saw us today, they would have much to say that we are doing wrongly.
@fabulermo3428
@fabulermo3428 10 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Kellett And to build on what Leo said, let's not forget that it was the Greeks who originally developed our Western ideas of logic.
@MrDasmaster
@MrDasmaster 10 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Kellett Morality is Wholly and completely a human invention!
@colourmegone
@colourmegone 10 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Kellett Morality is a human invention. There are no absolute moral codes but we are working on improving things to allow us to live together.
@wariyoshidirector
@wariyoshidirector 10 жыл бұрын
0:19 "Ancient playwrites really specialized in families; you have wives killing husbands, parents killing children, children killing parents, siblings killing each other- Oh, and they also wrote tragedies" Well-played, John, well-played
@RoScFan
@RoScFan 10 жыл бұрын
i don't get the joke
@wariyoshidirector
@wariyoshidirector 10 жыл бұрын
The joke is that you hear all of the horrible things that go on in Greek plays, then John implies that those are some of the lighter topics
@NHyt32
@NHyt32 10 жыл бұрын
"It is always better to live the truth than to live a lie."
@AlexPope1668
@AlexPope1668 10 жыл бұрын
There's a reason that's in quotes. :) Here's another one, "Those who would have the truth instead of a comfortable lie have never been uncomfortable enough."
@zephyrvescent
@zephyrvescent 10 жыл бұрын
Am enjoying the Literature Crash Course, and love your passion for the subject, John. Thank you!
@puddingball
@puddingball 10 жыл бұрын
THIS SERIES IS AMAZING PLEASE DONT LET IT END I LOVE IT AND YOU AND LITERATURE CAPS MAKE MY STATEMENT TRUE
@ConstantineKrystallis
@ConstantineKrystallis 10 жыл бұрын
Αμαρτία simply means mistake, error or miss. It is the same as sin.
@Gilboron
@Gilboron 10 жыл бұрын
Would you say it's Chewbacca's HAIR-oism that was his undoing?
@davidwarren7279
@davidwarren7279 8 жыл бұрын
"... Some were lost in the burning of the Library of Alexandria." #triggered
@iraismorales9016
@iraismorales9016 9 жыл бұрын
I honestly love the way you talk and the organization of your words and the way you add humor to your teachings thank you! :)
@meghancollins8106
@meghancollins8106 8 жыл бұрын
you should make more of these literature crash course. I think everyone would agreed they are brilliantly made and that it helps us learn more about the stories we are reading. Btw thank you for this video!!
@crystalwaters5
@crystalwaters5 9 жыл бұрын
oh good ol' John Green. never forgets to endorse his own work
@1973Washu
@1973Washu 10 жыл бұрын
Hubris was considered to be a great error in ancient Greece and attempting to defy the fates by trying to avoid a prophecy would be hubris since he would be setting himself above a group of goddesses.
@zalf1641
@zalf1641 10 жыл бұрын
Damn you Crash Course!!!! That's right, I'm reading about Oedipus at the moment.....READING!!! Damn you Crash Course!!!!
@zalf1641
@zalf1641 10 жыл бұрын
(I'm angry because you made me read, not because of the information you gave or your awesome informative videos)
@lavifletcher6038
@lavifletcher6038 10 жыл бұрын
Boeiend Ookboeie wut
@Redsoxking
@Redsoxking 10 жыл бұрын
Love the Gatsby reference
@catherinejensen9265
@catherinejensen9265 10 жыл бұрын
Your quote on the gods knowing the final football score makes me think of what Gandhi said. "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." I love how literature teaches us about life and human nature. Thanks for all your videos. They are awesome.
@nadiact-ie5hy
@nadiact-ie5hy 10 жыл бұрын
I love the RPG-style text in the Thought Bubble.
@FantashticIdeas
@FantashticIdeas 10 жыл бұрын
I studied both Oedipus Rex AND The Odyssey and it's really great to know what John's talking about because I raise those same concerns too with the play/stories. I'm really excited about Hamlet too! :D
@BackyardPictures101
@BackyardPictures101 8 жыл бұрын
Wait a second. Wait a second. Is this the same John green who wrote the fault in our stars??!?!
@DesiPanda674
@DesiPanda674 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Ramirez yes
@joel.5874
@joel.5874 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Ramirez I know, I've been watching these videos for a while now, and I just realized that.
@Purplestraw
@Purplestraw 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@surajbhat5447
@surajbhat5447 8 жыл бұрын
Nick Ramirez yup
@tensequel7818
@tensequel7818 7 жыл бұрын
yep, and a bunch of other books
@jmicone6895
@jmicone6895 6 жыл бұрын
The depth and breadth of Oedipus and the play deserve much more than you presented.
@BirdRaiserE
@BirdRaiserE 8 жыл бұрын
That Chewbacca open letter is 100 times more interesting after episode VII. WAIT HE NEVER SAID HE WAS REFERRING TO THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY DID JOHN GREEN SEE THE FUTURE
@ryanconnor3480
@ryanconnor3480 8 жыл бұрын
The bird entrails never lie my friend.
@jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280
@jotarokujoandstarplatinum1280 8 жыл бұрын
Chewbacca was killed in one of the books.
@BirdRaiserE
@BirdRaiserE 8 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Joestar I know. The Yuuzhan vong saga. It sucks that disney axed so much canon, but I think that particular saga crossed the line by killing movie characters. As if they didn't know that ep 7 would be out one day!
@jacksonmercer260
@jacksonmercer260 7 жыл бұрын
EHW2 moon thing
@mrkoalabearjr
@mrkoalabearjr 7 жыл бұрын
In Vector Prime of The New Jedi Order series, Chewie dies to save Anakin solo as the Yuuzhan Vong use a dovin basal to pull a moon onto a planet to destroy him. The survivors barely escaped on the Millennium Falcon
@ihathtelekinesis
@ihathtelekinesis 10 жыл бұрын
What I find so great about this play (and tragedy in general, but especially Sophocles' other two Theban plays) is how many ways it manages to tell us about humanity. On one level there's a big element of Schadenfreude for the Athenian audiences when they see things go so wrong in Thebes: it's as if it's saying "Look how bad things go in all these other cities, but we'd never have anything like that at all in good old democratic Athens!". And in fact, in plays like the Eumenides by Aeschylus, and the Oedipus at Colonus, you do see Athens as a place where everything gets sorted out and Thebes as a place where things go spectactularly horribly. It's a great way of showing how Athens thought of different Greek poleis in the 5th century. But on another level, Oedipus' story says a lot more about the human condition and how ultimately we're all subject to fate and free will, and gets us to feel pity for Oedipus because he didn't have a clear ἁμαρτία. Even though Oedipus would've lived hundreds of years before the play was even written, that distancing of time means that anyone living at any time can appreciate the play for what it is and get something meaningful out of it.
@TheAngoulini
@TheAngoulini 10 жыл бұрын
This was a great lesson about theatre in ancient Greece! I am from Greece and here we learn about it in some of our classes and I was really excited when you mentioned ALL the basic information about how the Greek theatre worked (and correctly). Oedipus' daughter who committed suicide wad Antigone and she has her own play, which is amazing. It is a little like reading Romeo and Juliet combined with Othello in ancient Greece (and it was written centuries before them!). Finally, fun fact, if you say 'hamartia' but without the 'h' then you say the exact Greek word. That was all. Thank you!!
@glassisland
@glassisland 10 жыл бұрын
Courage, my favourite cowardly dog! A+ to the graphics team for that one.
@deemckinney1238
@deemckinney1238 9 жыл бұрын
Well, don't I feel like a stupid history teacher--I HAD NO IDEA this was the same guy who wrote "Fault in Our Stars"!!
@RianeBane
@RianeBane 9 жыл бұрын
+Dee McKinney For half a second I thought you were talking about Sophocles, the one who wrote Oedipus Rex, and I was reeeeeeaaaally confused.
@vanvan1018
@vanvan1018 10 жыл бұрын
I had a class yesterday about tragedy and Oedipus, the teacher said everything said here! This feels like a resume. Thank you!!! :)
@emiliastevens3353
@emiliastevens3353 10 жыл бұрын
"...and sometimes they wrote tragedies" lol, so true, my favourite of the three Theban plays is Antigone
@olivergarsideconeron
@olivergarsideconeron 10 жыл бұрын
Its just not the same without the weekly electrocutions...
@AlexPope1668
@AlexPope1668 10 жыл бұрын
Maximilien de Robespierre felt the same about beheadings... until it was his neck beneath the steel. :)
@NickDePanfilis
@NickDePanfilis 10 жыл бұрын
Gotta write my Oedipis essay tonight muaahaha perfect timing John!
@izonker
@izonker 10 жыл бұрын
You mean you passed up a Star Trek reference there? (Cardassians vs Kardashians) ....such a missed reference there..
@LuxTheSlav
@LuxTheSlav 9 жыл бұрын
Obviously a Warsie, not a Trekkie, as evidenced throughout these videos literally all the time.
@katieernst4520
@katieernst4520 6 жыл бұрын
Such a great video!!! This is equivalent to the informative helpful lectures I get from my AP English professor. Now I'll go into class tomorrow one step ahead of him! Thank you for such a detailed and insightful view on the complexity of this play.
@beyzagokterim8476
@beyzagokterim8476 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you John Green and his crew. You made me understand a lot about the play itself.
@Vicas3
@Vicas3 10 жыл бұрын
This episode was fantastic, and I'm really happy you brought up the fact that we, the audience, already know the story. Even back in the day Oedipus was a well known myth, so the entire audience was familiar with the details. Sophocles was able to use that knowledge to ramp up the dramatic tension, and even millennia later you can feel that tension building with every scene you read (or see, but I don't know how many productions of Oedipus Rex are put on these days). It's the ultimate non-twist ending but it's still incredibly compelling. Also! Just curious, but will any of the books/plays in this series be two parters? One thing I really liked about the first lit series was that the two episode format let you focus on different things in each episode and show just how multifaceted all of those works were. Keep up the good work, I'm happy to support all y'all on Subbable
@zelographer
@zelographer 10 жыл бұрын
We are currently dissecting this play in my theater experience class and this makes the play really explainable and understandable. A lot of the big questions asked in class are over the other students head and crash course really rounds out everything for the most ignorant people! Love it.
@alicex1186
@alicex1186 6 жыл бұрын
7:13 * throws cup at brother * * flips off other guy * beautiful😂😂
@MustafaKulle
@MustafaKulle 10 жыл бұрын
Never would have heard of Oedipus if it hadn't been for Crash Course. Thank you.
@Farfromhere001
@Farfromhere001 10 жыл бұрын
Oh man the way they made the thought bubble look like a video game was awesome!
@RageInfectedSquirrel
@RageInfectedSquirrel 10 жыл бұрын
Loved it, like I love just about all the Crash Course's John does. But it still falls short of the great essay on Oedipus, "Planes, Trains, and Plantains."
@DJ7223
@DJ7223 10 жыл бұрын
When you think of it, Oedipus's fate could have been changed had his parents not tried to kill him. It all could have been avoided before it started.
@nadiact-ie5hy
@nadiact-ie5hy 10 жыл бұрын
I think it's a prime example of one of the oldest literary tropes: the self-fulfilling prophecy.
@DukeEllis
@DukeEllis 5 жыл бұрын
This is great, made me consider some angles that didn't occur to me when I read Oedipus like 25 years ago. I'd always read the "big mistake" as being made of smaller mistakes & character flaws (the shepherd choosing not to tell Oedipus who his father is for instance, and Oedipus' own short temper & propensity for treating people shabbily as the flaw that led him to kill a stranger who turned out to be his father).
@karlseider6237
@karlseider6237 9 жыл бұрын
Keeping up with the Cardassians! XD
@Bordelll
@Bordelll 10 жыл бұрын
John's passion for literature is contagious.
@SquareWaveSymphonies
@SquareWaveSymphonies 10 жыл бұрын
I still don't think the hate on Aristotle is justified.
@theshitygambino3318
@theshitygambino3318 6 жыл бұрын
OMG I HAD NO IDEAD. I paused the video and he did wrote it... I still worship u John
@morqwal
@morqwal 9 жыл бұрын
i thought Oedipus' tragic flaw was that he wouldnt quit searching for something though everyone knew it would destroy him and those around him. all the characters basically tell him, at some point, abandon this quest, run away. i feel oedipus' represents that "to the bitter end" struggle (spoilers, kinda like the dark tower series by stephen king where the main character is ultimately destroyed because he cant stop until he goes as far as he can along his journey even after putting the main part of his journey to rest and fixing the problem). oedipus is tragic and scary because he's like our own pursuit of curiosity, which bites us in the ass if we take it too far.
@dandannoodles7070
@dandannoodles7070 9 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wood Would his decisive mistake then be staying in the city after he found he killed the king? He needed to know who killed him in order to lift the plague, but finding out the truth about his parents wasn't necessary, at least from where i'm sitting.
@irshadkhan4033
@irshadkhan4033 9 жыл бұрын
great
@bri585
@bri585 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos, & to everyone else as well who play a part.
@patdevore
@patdevore 10 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Thought Bubble on the rolling FATE boulder of doom. Nice reference.
@amyschumacher2943
@amyschumacher2943 10 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how perfectly timed this is my English class literally read Oedipus this week CRASH COURSE YOU KNEW, YOU'RE SUCH A DOLL
@crazyolmaisie
@crazyolmaisie 10 жыл бұрын
Thought Bubble is tearing it up for crash course literature 202!
@Princessamy1010
@Princessamy1010 7 жыл бұрын
I've been watching the guys videos for the longest time AND THEN I FREAKIN LEARNED HE WAS THE AUTHOR TO MY FAVORITE BOOK A COUPLE YEARS AGO LIKEEE MIND BLOWWNNNNN #respect
@monu7203
@monu7203 4 жыл бұрын
That green light Gatsby refrence...🔥
@nicolep168
@nicolep168 4 жыл бұрын
john green is the smartest and the best person in the world. if u disagree, read paper towns
@SATPrepTutoring
@SATPrepTutoring 8 жыл бұрын
I just realized you wrote The Fault in Our Stars, and my mind exploded haha -AP Literature teacher who has been watching your videos for years
@dazjah14
@dazjah14 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you John Green for being so awesome. You give me good books to read and explain the literature I don't understand.
@ThatLexPlays
@ThatLexPlays 10 жыл бұрын
John Green I loved the Chewbacca Open letter. If only that was considered canon still....damn Disney.
@elizabethhanantaylor6332
@elizabethhanantaylor6332 10 жыл бұрын
Just talked about this in theatre class last year, and now we talked about it in English. I found this video very helpful for describing Greek theatre, I shared it with my brother, and the class. It's just so wonderful!
@FranklyImaPerson
@FranklyImaPerson 8 жыл бұрын
Boy howdy did that blood oath put him in a bind in Force Awakens. That conflict tho
@robertbeley5710
@robertbeley5710 10 жыл бұрын
I love your stuff and have for a long time, I appreciate everyone who shows you support. I would donate myself if I weren't living in poverty. Thanks to all who keep crash course possible.
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus 10 жыл бұрын
Breaking Bad is our greatest modern tragedy.
@Jstrelts
@Jstrelts 5 жыл бұрын
Game of thrones
@damerksh1238
@damerksh1238 5 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmm modern jeckle and hyde
@micahbeckett9768
@micahbeckett9768 8 жыл бұрын
So helpful for Antigone, Sophocles revision. Thanks again +CrashCourse!
@roguecodes
@roguecodes 10 жыл бұрын
We read Antigone in class the other day, I quite enjoyed it.
@The1Helleri
@The1Helleri 10 жыл бұрын
CrashCourse I clicked on this video when I saw the title because: - I hadn't actually read this story. Only heard the outlines of it, and what Freud had to say about it. . - Given that, I knew you were going to clear up misconceptions I had about it. ...You did not disappoint. Great video (But, I still don't feel the need to actually read it).
@BurpAtTheMoon
@BurpAtTheMoon 10 жыл бұрын
I bet Sophocles got all the Oedipussies!!! OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! ...okay I'm leaving, I'M LEAVING!! STOP TRHOWING ROCKS!!!!
@ComputerCat777
@ComputerCat777 10 жыл бұрын
I'm learning so hard right now! I think this with every Crash Course!
@ToslowGaming
@ToslowGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Oh this is perfect! Please go into detail about Antigone (sequel to Oedipus) for your next video!
@stellacoul
@stellacoul 6 жыл бұрын
Two days of binge-watching +CrashCourse and it's wonderful content. Suprised I didn't find your channel sooner as it is full of everything I love - mythology and literature. this channel has become a fast favourite/addiction +John Green
@paulocone1963
@paulocone1963 10 жыл бұрын
In a future season of Crash Course Literature, could you maybe cover the rest of the Oedipus cycle? We're doing Antigone right now in Theatre and I really like it. (I'm playing Haemon and get to sass the king.)
@thaliahunter3139
@thaliahunter3139 10 жыл бұрын
I love Antigone!
@mimimac10
@mimimac10 10 жыл бұрын
thank you, John Green, for putting my whole english course into simple videos. ily
@bndncn
@bndncn 10 жыл бұрын
So...I'm confused. He said Greek Theater began with ritual animal sacrifice, but WASN'T like voting. What's he mean?
@bndncn
@bndncn 10 жыл бұрын
Haha, I was joking--implying I thought animal sacrifice was a normal part of voting.
@EmperorTikacuti
@EmperorTikacuti 10 жыл бұрын
Its about us what we do in our lives and how we act
@euphemiadecroix2624
@euphemiadecroix2624 10 жыл бұрын
***** Voting is optional in some places now. Not Australia though.
@voldlifilm
@voldlifilm 10 жыл бұрын
I only ever vote because they give me bacon for shoving up. Anything else sounds uncivilized to me.
@EmperorTikacuti
@EmperorTikacuti 10 жыл бұрын
Voting for bacon is uncivilized. Some countries who vote for that, have government and citizens who are complete morons, thinking about junk and S.
@yasmineyasser4623
@yasmineyasser4623 Жыл бұрын
AS IF HE ISN'T GREAT ENOUGH, HE WROTE THE FAULT IN OUR STARS!!!!!!!
@mistercroop
@mistercroop 10 жыл бұрын
+John Green From whence come the idioms and implications surrounding the disparagement: "pretentious"? Is it accurate to opine that pretense once carried ignominy not for the fact of pretending but for the gall of what was pretended? Is it come of a common source to this and developed so to make /what/ one is pretending to vestigial? Is the contemporary offense based on the notion of someone pretending they're better than you, smarter than you, richer than you, or just as? Where's the foul, why's'it, and where'd it come from?
@1brooke96
@1brooke96 6 жыл бұрын
I just watch the 90 min play on Oedipus and was lost more than once. Thank you so much for clearing a lot of it up for my mythology class!!
@hiwayM9
@hiwayM9 10 жыл бұрын
We have a stray cat (or it has us?) and we named him Oedi (he was infatuated with his mother) and due to the spelling (since we pronounce it like "Eddie") people always ask about it. I want to thank you Mr. Green as now I can just link this video instead of the long, winded, and convoluted explanation I have become accustomed to.
@drunkenhobo64
@drunkenhobo64 10 жыл бұрын
My view on Oedipus was with the knowledge that most great heroes in Greek plays/stories suffer because of some sort of fatal flaw in their character. This fatal flaw was usually something seen as negative, but Oedipus had a stranger kind of fatal flaw: his refusal to remain ignorant, even unto his undoing.
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