Fate Series Strongest Servant Each Class // Suggestion series part 6

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[@elgoblinax8796]

The fact that Bat dude fought for millions of years and ended up ripping of the heart of a lovecraftian being is crazy

[@Morningstar140]

Bat? Who?

[@desolatedrazy1010]

​@@Morningstar140Camazo

[@sew2jz]

@@Morningstar140 Camazotz

[@Ayumu31]

not lovecraftian, its type moons original. Type category from NOTES. Yes there is lovecraftian mix servants but ORT isnt one of them. ORT isnt even Type yet its literally unkillabe. It can kill humans faster n worse than Primate Murder and Angra Manyu...

[@hananouta6434]

Who did he fought? I mean who was the lovecraftian guy, ort?

[@cotocoyerakson8195]

Meanwhile my Cu Chulainn who doesn't believe in dying.

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

He still died when killed tho~(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

[@cotocoyerakson8195]

@@TheStuffEnjoyer And then came back to life just to dodge everything again

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

@@cotocoyerakson8195 Just because you're correct, doesn't mean you're right~(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

[@cotocoyerakson8195]

@@TheStuffEnjoyer I don't know man, I just know that I get hungry when I don't eat.

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

@@cotocoyerakson8195 Hmm, so the Hunger class really is made of the hungry huh~(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

[@Mary-rj8rj]

Acknowledge Grand Servants and Types, you're the true Master alright.

[@Bridegroom_Tiamat]

Tiamat is the sweetest wife in the world :> and mom at the same time

[@ghanialter7103]

NGL..... FACTS!!!!!!!!

[@Bridegroom_Tiamat]

@@ghanialter7103 :>

[@aveyx]

​@@ghanialter7103😂

[@alexissosa7912]

Nadie supera a mama shirou

[@giyutomioka4809]

The only problem is, She can't get pregnant 😬

[@thecasul1524]

No way. An accurate (I believe) list of Fate strongest (current) servants! What a shock!

[@songokaikazerai5760]

Fr most others are biased af

[@ZTshortz220]

Not seeing Gilgamesh getting the archer class pained my soul

[@lorenzousandoval9130]

Well gilgamesh its his own class haha

[@harsha9141]

​@Luci_Guyyou mean when he was alive na ?

[@terramoto309]

gilgamesh is technically the strongest archer in is grand form, but he never took the position because, well you know gil, hes too arrogant to care

[@boggart159]

​@@terramoto309they get selected for grand the don't get too choose. They can choose to give up their title however.

[@terramoto309]

@@boggart159 idk in what Q&A Nasu said this but he said that one can accept or refuse the grand status, but that means they will be summon to stop the evils of the world, gil being gil will not take orders from anyone so he refuses the grand status

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

Morgan and Eresg Alter flexing on the grands 💀

[@anshunath3290]

I can argue that Flat/Thia Escardos and Woodime is a better master than Manaka. *But Manaka is still a menace*

[@ghanialter7103]

Better? Yes Stronger? No

[@anshunath3290]

@@ghanialter7103 Manaka was being directly connected to the root or something. So yes she is stronger. Oh by the way W edit💯 🎉🎉🎉

[@SiegfriedFafnirsbane]

​@@anshunath3290Manaka unlike shiki is limited by her Magic Circuits. For example she can't wish the planet out of existance. She also isn't omniscient since she couldn't foresee arthur stabbing her.

[@johansaavedra3204]

Te corrijo, si es omniciente ​@@SiegfriedFafnirsbane

[@SiegfriedFafnirsbane]

@@johansaavedra3204 ENGLISH!MF Do you speak it?

[@flamefox0926]

man tiamat is the only reason i clicked this video and it was worth it

[@Deltwith_evo]

I dont care if morgan is the best berserker heracles the goat frfr

[@ghanialter7103]

The STRONGEST not the best The best Berserker is No doubt Godjuna IMO

[@aquelequevocedesconhece1280]

Explaining some placements: Berserker: Morgan: >Zeus 35%>Arjuna alter (MhX alter maybe superior, she is comparable to her Space Isthar level counterpart) Assassin: Hassan: our dear tez is considered a Zeus-level deity, but we are not talking about his divine form, but his pseudo-servant form that, even though he is strong, does not have the capabilities to defeat king hassan Rider: Noah: even weakened, he is able to prevent an attack from draco nero, which was beyond what tiamat could do, his presence was draco's main concern, even having an enkidu and tiamat larva in the field Caster: Solomon(full arsenal): with all his power, he is able to do everything that goetia can do, the same goetia that is superior to alien god(pre-Lb 7) that is np level of oberon, which is superior to castoria (Amaterasu, maybe it's superior, because it's a stellar level) Lancer: Eresh alter:=sefar>zeus prime> Romulus quirinus (melusine can be considered, but I forgot the reason) Archer: Super Orion: Okay, let's go. With the bow of hephaestus, he is able to withstand two blasts from the np of artemis, even without the power of a grand sevant, and the np of artemis is declared to be on par with the wodime np, and with his 3rd np, he gives one shot to artemis and kills her. Artemis's power is superior to Aphrodite's, even in her PHH form, and Nero's Saber venus form which is superior to BB, uses that power, so: Orion>Artemis>Nero(sv)>=Aphrodite>BB(moncell)>CCC servants(this includes Gilgamesh)>Gilgamesh prime ✌️

[@aquelequevocedesconhece1280]

Explaining some placements (part 2)🤩 Saber: Shiki (3rd Personality): Root (victim of alter larva) Alter ego: Tiamat: maybe the okita alter has a chance, due to compatibility, but I highly doubt it will go beyond that Ruler: Zeus: Not a servant but ok I'm too lazy to climb himiko😪 Avenger: Space ishtar: there is only fodder in this class (includes demon nobu) Moon Cancer: Arcueid: .😐 (sakura face class?) Foreigner: kukulkan: level Ort lets gooo!!! (van gogh best foreigner)😶‍🌫️ Pretender: Oberon: There are many competitors right? Beast: Batman/Camazotz: Ort level again!!! Master?: Manaka: root loli lets goo!!!!!

[@_.Sakmera._]

CCC Gil > Orion and BB

[@aquelequevocedesconhece1280]

@@_.Sakmera._ nah

[@morsayxd]

zeus 35% was never stated above arjuna alter , zeus essence as God was just considered superior to arjuna , when they said he is on a total different league they were talking about their divinity not their actual strength

[@aquelequevocedesconhece1280]

@@morsayxd this is contradictory, the fact that Zeus is superior to arjuna in divinity already makes him superior in all other points, since the biggest factor of arjuna alter is divinity

[@MrInuhanyou123]

One thing I would say about this list bro is that void is too oversold. She may have hax and be OP as a human but it doesn't mean she is omnipotent. Infact based on nasus statements she's not even that strong outside of her hax. Not only does she not have any feats besides defeating araya souren(in the novel), so what she can actually do outside of her statements in epilogue 8 is vague, nasu even once said pre fgo that void would struggle to fight defensively against a servant. He said she was one of the top 3 outside of servants in like an interview in 2005 but this is still when the nasuverse was absurdly small and there were barely any characters created yet besides the main casts of tsuki, knk and FSN. Not only that but even in fgo when void comes out and fights in the story, she specifically says that she stands no chance against big players. Now that doesn't sound like an Omni potent all powerful being to me, especially considering that she should not be contained by a saint graph if she was simply beyond anything and all rules purely due to being connected to the root. From my perspective she has hax cheats but they don't really mean much against much stronger opponents. Because despite being connected to the root she is still a human being who must obey the laws of average mortals which will limit anything she can do. Same with manaka who is also connected to the root but is obviously nowhere near all powerful and unbeatable. I maintain that ORT PPH is the strongest being in the nasuverse, with Arcueid at full power in second place.

[@adamluthfie7]

Problem is saber does not have any OP character currently. Musashi? Altoria? At best. I would say Arthur is likely the strongest since he is pursuing fight beast category.

[@vietcuongnguyenle8530]

Uhm, why she must follow the rule she make ? Akasha is the reason everything exist in fgo Although void isn’t akasha trueself but just her in an avatar , that still not mean she bounded by rule She just not bother to broke it that all 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alispeed5095]

@@adamluthfie7 Saber also has Ibuki. She is pretty OP, a divine spirt/Oni frankenstein with freaking Kusanagi. Its pretty much the strongest weapon japanese mythology. A divine construct to boot too. So in terms of power. Ibuki is the strongest saber so far.

[@sebastianfontanez1081]

​@@adamluthfie7 I mean, Artoria and Arthur are literally equal. 2 big differences in terms of power is that Arthur has higher physical stats while Artoria has higher Mana, luck, etc. And Arthur unlocks more of Excaliburs seals than Artoria does.

[@Daiguren_Hyonimaru]

​@@adamluthfie7void shiki?

[@aquelequevocedesconhece1280]

Baobhan with cernunnos corpes enter the chat Archers:😢

[@abuukarez5161]

What?

[@abuukarez5161]

@@disbad8233 Kali ain't doing shit against Cernunnos💀

[@gilpendrago]

​@@abuukarez5161?? Kali stronger than 100% zeus and arjuna alter , bruv morgan ain't doing shit against arjuna alter wym ? Kali clears lol

[@abuukarez5161]

@@gilpendrago Kali has shown no feats to be stronger than Zeus or Godjuna💀 Morgan was quite literally stated to be the strongest LN King untill Kuku showed up😭😭😭

[@Recon-601]

​@@abuukarez5161not the strongest but she was considered on par with each of the previous ones but frankly Kali loses to most lostbelt kings except for arguably the first three depending on how you scale them

[@thepronoob4039]

Foreigner should be MHXX. Canonically she fights Types or Type-like beings on the daily and they're nothing to her.

[@ShinyAzzy]

I don't know where you found that information but its definitely not "canonically" Types are the strongest beings in type moon and ORT being the strongest type and also the only grand foreigner candidate is the strongest being in type moon stated in his character material

[@thepronoob4039]

​​@@ShinyAzzyI misremembered MHXX lore and some how thought that she fought Types instead of Outer Gods but they're both very powerful beings I can see how I mixed them up. Also I made this comment before I read up on LB7 and found out about the whole ORT Xibalba thing. So m'bad Nevertheless OP is still wrong and should put Xibalba as the strongest Foreigner instead of Kuku

[@julianskilton200]

@@thepronoob4039Kuku is Xibalba though. She’s his heart. What he was fighting so desperately to obtain. A heart so powerful a forest of phantasy trees are less powerful then the heart. So powerful a servant surpassing Sefar can be knocked aside as inferior. And she can employ its full power.

[@abuukarez5161]

@@thepronoob4039 Kuku is equal to PHH ORT in power and PHH ORT is far stronger than LB ORT. So Kuku=PHH ORT>>>>>>>>>>>LB ORT>ORT Xibalba

[@Vid_21]

​@@abuukarez5161don't know how you concluded Kuku=ORT when it's blatantly stated otherwise

[@araragrainos7292]

Since when Zeus is summonable as servant the only that exist is a fanmade of the Game Made by the chinese famdom

[@tonyxa2574]

I think Gilgamesh is stronger than Orion Btw W

[@capetel368]

As a normal servant yes but as a grand super Orion stomps gil

[@zir456]

​@@capetel368 so theres also many level of Servant💀 how many above "Normal" Servant and are They nerfed if They are summoned as Weaker Servant?

[@capetel368]

@@zir456 "godzilla had a stroke reading this and fucking died" 💀

[@ThisGodIsKirby1986]

​@@capetel368Orion isn't a Grand Servant After LB5 bruh

[@capetel368]

@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 yes I know

[@tribalchief91567]

Tho i believe grands are the strongest of their class(which da vinci literally stated in Lb6 that grands are on the very top tier of their class), i still believe orion is weaker than some of the servants in archer class. I believe the only reason he became a grand is because of his affinity with koyanskya(Like how merlin is a grand candidate despite the fact that he is bad at magecraft and only because he has clairvoyance) He is the greatest hunter in greek myth so i think that's the main reason why they made him grand.He is probably the trump card against koyanskya. If we take into consideration that AUo defeated tiamat because of outside help,then orion can be said in that same way.I mean he only defeated artemis due to heph's bow made with achilles armor,arrow made with paris and apollo,stalled time by mandricardo with durandal and magical energy obtained by grand status denounced So umm yeah,he needed every help in existance to defeat artemis So even though i dont wanna say it,but i believe some servants are stronger than orion like Kali/durga,a goldie cuck who lost to a feika and last but not least,the successor of morgan

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

Gilgamesh is above Orion, and Orion literally died from using the arrows.

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

Grands are not the strongest of each class, grand archer would be gilgamesh, and Arthur would be a grand saber if that were true

[@velgard.]

grands are the strongest for the type of beast they are fighting, thats all there is to it

[@mridstaid414]

I agree with everything except the merlin part dude isnt bad at magecraft wtf

[@Nostalgicmoxxi]

Merlin isn't bad at magecraft dudes, just a lazy asshole

[@VGogetto]

love that Morgan is given some love, but shes only strong when shes sitting in the throne, it was painfully demonstrated that shes hardly a threat when shes pushed out of it using the same logic, Junao, if its within the India Texture, is basically omnipotent, basically immortal and needs atleast 3 Indian Demiurges combined together (into S.Karna) to take him down if we consider their prime and their peak conditions, Junao sweeps

[@VGogetto]

hell, India Texture might not actually matter anymore considering oc1 shenanigans with Durga

[@jacobmcgee2053]

Absolute perfect video

[@abuukarez5161]

Thank You. I made the list.

[@abuukarez5161]

Except Camazotz.

[@UnlimitedPlatesWorks]

uhhhhh clearly Eric bloodaxe > Morgan (JK)

[@kilianteni7884]

Artoria pendragon full waifu power solos all of fiction and reality no concept of diff.

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

I keep coming back to this video its so etheral

[@jacobmcgee2053]

For notable seconds/thirds at each class Saber: Arthur, Ibuki Douji Archer: Gilgamesh, Kali Lancer: Romulus-Quirinis, Lion king Caster: Merlin, Skadi Rider: Tai gong Wang Assassin: Tezcalipoco Berserker: Arjuna Alter Ruler: Shi Huang Di Avenger,Pretender: none close Mooncancer,Alter Ego: Kiara Master: Kirscharia Wodime (lostbelt)

[@ghanialter7103]

What is kali feats and ability? (I don't read papermoon yet)

[@ared4824]

​@@ghanialter7103major goddess of hindu mythology, wife of Shiva and goddess of death, destruction etc, I'm not to informed on the topic but I know she is a high-ranked diety

[@abuukarez5161]

I'd say Tezca>King Hassan,but since he has multiple classes it's hard to fit him into just one.

[@kidjoepranata1392]

​@@abuukarez5161no First Hassan still stronger on assassin role cause he is epitome of that class and capable impose law of death to everything . Meanwhile tezca basicaly God but he cheated the system' to get grand class by using same catalyst epitome of hassan.i mean he also strong cause he rule the law of world and the first sun but he doesnt fit to be grand assassin like the former.

[@abuukarez5161]

@@kidjoepranata1392 Doesn't change the fact that Tezca is far stronger. Tezca defeated Beast 7(U-Olga) in a 1v1. King Hassan hasn't shown anything close to this feat.

[@bug1gub225]

a question for people who understand the power scale in Fate. Servants have tiers of power/rarity in lore/game, so what is the minimum and maximum level of strength of the tiers, from the weakest to the strongest in relation to the lore? example the weakest servant in the lowest tier has X feats and the strongest in the lowest tier has Y feats and so on. Just to create my own without been todo much underpowered or overpowered

[@CaosArc-jj4db]

Locura total

[@Doomslayer13666]

Well, there are certain invocations that are really unlikely to appear without a catalyst, but when it comes to the main classes, there are several factors to determine the strength of one of these beings, such as statistics rank, abilities, noble phantasms, compatibility against the enemy, location of the invocation (there is a servant that becomes stronger in certain lands, or countries), a Shakespearean example is weak, but has a noble phantasm that alters destiny, or enkidu whose chains are made to face divine beings, but if the opponent does not have deity lose their main function, even if they continue to be very strong, in the end it's all a question of compatibility and strategy + luck, and eventually some buff provided by the master like a command seal, or some artifact like the corrupted grail providing infinite mana to arturia alter, but out of curiosity the weakest servant is the angra mayu, and the strongest is the shiki (3⁰ persona, or void shiki), but one thing is for sure alien artifacts and things coming from the root, are the most op things in the verse and the minimum tier is outerversal, which is unbelievable to be honest

[@ARTHURIA-PENDRAGON]

Gilgamesh: seriously bro?

[@ghanialter7103]

Yes...you cant even beat Artemis

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

I like how we get zero explanation and breeze through so fast that you barely have time to process it. Also, does Shiki count? Isn't she just a human from another series?

[@Hazel564]

shiki is part of nasuverse and she is the avatar of the ultimate existance

[@jeanniemaycrawford4466]

Kali is by far th strongest archer now

[@nektoone3925]

Gil: hahahahaha

[@jeanniemaycrawford4466]

@@nektoone3925 bruh

[@mothermilk879]

​@@nektoone3925what about karna summon archer class

[@nektoone3925]

@@mothermilk879 Ea, Enkidu, 10000+ NF E~A+ it is literally written about Gilgamesh in the novel that he is the strongest servant

[@AKASHA8852]

What? Gil is strongest archer right?

[@nyexstable2788]

Saber Shiki is actually weak compared to many servants, what people overlook is the ability of the Counter-Force, while her powers with the Root are insanely powerful and it makes her basically the strongest. The Counter-Force doesn't actually give her any leeway in her servant scenario, because in Kara No Kyokai, the Counter Force is weaker and therefore she has way more free reign. Unlike in the Fate world where she'd just get negged again much like Manaka due to the Counter-Force being much stronger. Hence why her materials deem her weaker than actual servants, she would barely be able to handle herself against a stronger opponent. So in my opinion it'd be someone like Arthur. Foreigner: Id change it to MHXX, she casually fights Type-like beings and Outer-Gods and even kills them herself (Servantverse moment) Beast: I'd change it to Sodoms Beast. Not only has she achieved something that no other Beast is capable of but also took the might of 2 grands, 1 grand-candidate Merlin, Chaldea, and "Unsealed Excalibur to save the planet" Arthur to simply defeat her. She was such an incredibly high potential threat that Alter-Ego Muramasa who served the Alien God was sent to many worlds to sever her connection from her power source once she was attempting to regain it after her first defeat against Excalibur because if she was fully materialized with the amount of power, she would eventually be capable of killing the Alien God herself. Her power never stopped growing until she got permanently nerfed by Senji cutting her connection. Archer: Gilgamesh - While Super Orion maybe the supeior Archer in skill and overall physical stats and the fact that he is a Grand, Gilgamesh in terms of powers and abilities are just way too much, he doesnt hold the Grand title as Archer isnt his strongest form as well as Gilgamesh is the type to deny the role as seen with CasGil. Avenger: While I do agree on Space Ishtar since her entire lore is crazy, Ive recently figured out about DK Nobunaga whose scaling puts her on the level of Amaterasu and Buddha due to her unique servant properties as well as heavily being Anti-Divine and therefore she is the antithesis of many gods. She is capable of keeping up with Maxwells Demon who scales up to Saver due to his qualities. But overall this was my opinion for any changes, everything else I also agree on. 😅😅😅

[@vietcuongnguyenle8530]

The different in here is void shiki is akasha itself in an vessel It technically different with other people who make their way to have a connect with akahsa

[@zane8141]

If you do consider shiki cannon then ‘void shiki’ could literally No-low diff the verse and I’m leaning more to No diff that’s the level of strength between void shiki and the rest of the fate series. Void shiki (High outerversal - Maybe boundless) is the only reason fate series stands up to beings like Akuto-sai (High outerversal - Maybe boundless) featherine (Outerversal) and Hajun (High outerversal) when in an argument

[@matokuroi3927]

you're wanking too much lmao, literally no one in nasu verse is above multiversal and Nasu literally stated that in the vn. Powerscalers are dumb af and they are contradicting nasu's input. Void Shiki just have a connection to the root but nothing more backs it up since she literally have 0 to no feat or other statements

[@AKASHA8852]

Archer - Durga

[@Azuki-1722]

Saber gw tetep milih Arthur/Artoria, soalnya Shiki di Fate series ga terlalu banyak aksi

[@lolochan9915]

nah, its void shiki, not normal shiki, she is a literally god , artoria aint even close to fighting her

[@sibsart2039]

Orion may be the Grand Archer, but Gilgamesh might still be more powerful.

[@thuythu8986]

NOPE

[@sibsart2039]

@@thuythu8986 elaborate, because from what I recall Orion’s best feat is shooting down artemis. And I can’t remember the scaling for that event.

[@thuythu8986]

​@@sibsart2039Okay, if that's your opinion, I won't say anything else because I'm not very good at explaining.

[@ghanialter7103]

But Archer Gilgamesh cant beat machine God Artemis while Orion could and machine God Artemis i believe is a archer class

[@sibsart2039]

@@thuythu8986 I’m asking because I’m not sure. Fate scaling is weird. And I know EA is pretty much the strongest NP.

[@ShuriAce]

I just got space ishtar an this comes in the feed

[@michaelmarto69]

of course noah is a rider

[@unitcharles8278]

For berserker I think Arjuna alter probably stronger. He basically destroy and recreated world

[@ghanialter7103]

Morgan also technically able to destroy a World while Chillin on her throne While godjuna cant even rewrite Others lostbelts

[@gafraavrilt2297]

My Most Favorite Servants List : 1.Saber Artoria Pendragon 2.Lancer Scathach 3.Rider Medusa 4.Saber Altera 5.Caster Tamamo No Mae 6.Rider Quetzalcoatl 7.Saber Miyamoto Musashi 8.Berserker Minamoto No Raikou

[@Ayumu31]

dont know about eresh (melusine, roma, enkidu exists) but agree with the others

[@ghanialter7103]

Ereshkigal Alter >>>Romulus>>Melusine>Enkidu She literally on par even stronger than Kukulkan

[@OdaWIS]

Gilgamesh strongest archer

[@ghanialter7103]

But archer servant Gil cant beat machine God Artemis tho

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

Nope lop 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bennogb5069]

@@Asinatorsdaughter CCC Gilgamesh is debatable and he sint evne a grand servant

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

@@bennogb5069 honey ccc gilgamesh was defeated by many servants even in the moon cell. And even after getting buffed by the ancient mystic coden, and all the powers he can get after raising his stats to maximum he still had only 1% yes only 1% chance to beat even Bb . Ccc gilgamesh is very strong really really strong, but against many other characters he isnt anything

[@bennogb5069]

@@Asinatorsdaughter he is nerfed or not anywhere full power for a literally outright stated and shown superior to BB. Hes shown fighting Kiara later who is far stronger than BB.

[@sebastianfontanez1081]

I still stand by the wielders of Excalibur being the strongest Sabers, assuming they use Excalibur to it's fullest

[@DeadApostleAncestor10]

No Excalibur wielder can use it at it's full potential without the right conditions and even if the condition meet they will only get enough to fire it one time

[@sebastianfontanez1081]

@@DeadApostleAncestor10 I mean, all that's needed is for all 13 seals to be unlocked, 7/13 seals to be unlocked (depending on whether Artorias Excalibur seals work like Arthur's, but it does still apply to Arthur himself, and I'm pretty sure he's done it multiple times by now), or for Earth itself to say "fuck it" and bypass the seals entirely. And besides, it's not like I said they could do it casually, all I said is that it's my belief that Excalibur wielders using it's full power would be the strongest Sabers

[@DeadApostleAncestor10]

@@sebastianfontanez1081 Yeah seems about right but I would have to say Arthur would be inferior to Artoria we don't know if he has Avalon at least no one has confirmed it yet, And yeah Artoria's seals work the same and even with all seals released I doubt they would be able to rival ibuki (from heain-kyo specifically) shiki saber is still featless and in a servant container

[@sebastianfontanez1081]

@@DeadApostleAncestor10 I mean, Excalibur's sheath being ridiculously powerful is, as far as I'm aware, a core part of Arthurian Legends, and seeing as we have no statements or evidence that he _doesn't_ have his own Avalon, I think it's safe to assume he had it and that it was stolen like Artoria's and like King Arthur's was in legend. And I mean, come on, if Arthur is casually going around hunting Beasts, and not so casually but still competently fighting them, I'm sure a fully unsealed Excalibur from one of those 2 could at least legitimately stand a chance against Heain-Kyo Ibuki

[@DeadApostleAncestor10]

@@sebastianfontanez1081 Yeah for now we can agree to that And yeah he is hunting only 666 because what happened in tokyo nothing else he still needed the help of grands and bunch of other servants to pull it off yet he still failed and Sodom's beast still escaped through arcade to fgo I can see him standing a chance but defeating a god who was stated above all mechanical gods combined from Olympus also who had enough power in hand to make a individual beast and the self proclaimed “The strongest beast " Statement. Uunsealed excalibur only deals heavy damage to threat to humanities or evil of humanities I can't see him doing much at best he is gonna injure her and she will get her with Kusanagi

[@darick2914]

Morgan is stronger that arjuna alter? The am gonna eat whole f hindu phanteon? Same for lancer wast Karan lostbelt 4 or romulus quirinos?

[@Eltunum-x26]

Yeah? Morgan has Rhongomyniad that can do the same thing as Mahapralaya but on a larger scale she was stated to be above cernennuos who was a full fledged god and not a divine spirit like Arjuna alter

[@Eltunum-x26]

I don't know what you are implying with the karna and romulus

[@XL1GT]

In the video i mostly agree with all the servants but explain to me why those 3: Beast: i would say goetia, but as the story is going right now on fgo jp, then i would say Beast VII aka U-Olga marie, for camazotz it is still an stretch because Beast VII is still stated to be behind only to Goetia of the hardests enemies chaldea have fighted, but in the future that statement might be invalid bcz if Flare marie is stronger than U-Olga marie then what about the other parts or even the fusion of all 4?, space ishtar and astarte's fusion teached to us is that when 2 divided spirits fuse between them they are near as strong as the original. Lancer: what are the feats and power for me to know about Ereshkigal (alter) Master: wound't that be ritsuka fujimaru? Because on top of be capable of summoning multiple servants, he has an nice relationship with all the servants he has and he is capable of summoning beast class servants from which not any master can do it

[@nameless_ekmek]

Gilgamesh stronger than orion and orion cant beat penthesilia in 1v1 lol, if you say he take down artemis he dont make alone he get help from so much people(hephaestus make bow(use achilles armor for bow) and arrows for take down artemis, paris help, 3 command seal, maybe have a little helps i forgot), you dont accepting helped feats i can see easly in comments

[@Omimaru42]

The amount of sharpness on this short is making me blind, jesus christ.

[@arminnoori2400]

What about grand foreigner ORT if he was in full power ?

[@ghanialter7103]

Preety sure grand foreigner from ort is weaker than FP ort from PHH

[@arminnoori2400]

But still was strong even in lvl one they were struggling to deal with him

[@ghanialter7103]

@@arminnoori2400 if Im not mistaken, Ku'Kulkan one shoot ort with her np right?

[@arminnoori2400]

@@ghanialter7103 not sure either cause in game fight she couldn't even wipe half of his health 🤣🤣

[@ghanialter7103]

@@arminnoori2400 well, none of the servant can beat ort 1 vs 1 if its in gameplay lol That boss fight was crazy

[@tyleromega9976]

I mean... PHH Zeus would definitely be a Ruler-Class servant but Lostbelt Zeus is also, alongside Chaos, an Ancient God-class "servant" lol.

[@PartyNator]

You forgot Non-Class Gilgamesh lol

[@neetaiims7427]

Best and strongest archer servent is super karna. What's ur opinion

[@ghanialter7103]

Super karna is lancer 🤦

[@neetaiims7427]

​​@@ghanialter7103yes he is in lancer class but according to its lore he is best in archer class

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

Strongest servants of each class Saber:Arthur archer:Gilgamesh Lancer:Eresh alter Assassin:Tezca Caster:castoria Rider:Taikobou Berserker:Arcueid Beast:Camatotz Ruler:Zeus

[@ghanialter7103]

Reason for Tezca, Castoria and Taikobou? Arthur and Gilgamesh are understandable

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

@@ghanialter7103 Tezca is the grand assassin, Taikobou has already defeated amaterasu, And castoria is lostbelt morgan level

[@ghanialter7103]

@@Emanuel-qo1jw king Hassan cant be killed, he can put concept of death to a gods, literally have better endurance and durability than tez plus can regenerate, able to withstand nega Genesis, can Instakill anyone i believe with ceritain rules, one shooted 3 offspring lahmu who is on par on one demon God pillar. Weakened with a little mana Noah plus without the sword able to fight beast 6 and counter her sea of life who is scale above Tiamat sea of life that compareable to Goetia ASS. Prime Grand Caster Solomon literally have Goetia, he can do whatever goetia can do but better, he have the temple, the rings, he literally omnipotent, castoria cant even beat Vortigern in 1 vs 1 inside the insect of abyss even if she have a literally direct counter for the insect of abyss

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

@@ghanialter7103 Goetia and Solomon do not have any feat to defeat oberon, there is the quote of goetia > alien god, but there are also quotes of goetia being inferior to Zeus

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

@@ghanialter7103 Solomon is omnipotent, an omnipotent one who did not know about goetia's plan and who had to die to defeat goetia. Solomon is not omnipotent, he controls any and all magecraft

[@coconut_tv0564]

If it was in game it would probably be like this: Saber: Muramasa or Salter Archer: probably Super orion Lancer: Melusine Rider: Quetz or Ozy Caster: Castoria Assassin: Koyan light or Tezcatlipoca Berserker: Morgan, Arjuna alter or Summer Ibuki Ruler: Summer Melusine or Himiko Avenger: Spishtar or Jalter Moon cancer: Summer Kiara or Arcueid Alter ego: Tiamat Foreginer: Gogh or Kuku Pretender: Oberon or proto merlin

[@ghanialter7103]

In Game you mean gameplay? Then for me Saber: Muramasa (AOE), Diouscuri (ST) Archer: Super Orion (ST), Gilgamesh (AOE) Lancer: Cu Chulainn (ST), Melusine (AOE) Rider: Osymandias (ST), Taikoubou (AOE) Caster: Castoria Assassin: King Hassan (ST), Tez (AOE), Koyan (support) Berserker: Cu Alter (ST), Godjuna (AOE) Ruler: Qin (ST), summer Melu (AOE), Summer Skadi (support) Avenger: Jalter (ST), Dantes (AOE) Alter Ego: Tiamat (AOE) Foreigner: Van Gogh (ST), Kukulkan (AOE) Pretender: Oberon (AOE/Support) Moon Cancer: Summer Kiara (AOE)

[@AKASHA8852]

If game archer - Durga almost everyone don't know about her.

[@angeloffire2917]

orion definitely weaker than gil

[@ghanialter7103]

And Gil is definetly weaker than Artemis

[@angeloffire2917]

@@ghanialter7103 depends on which version we are talking about + gil has chains of heavens

[@ghanialter7103]

@@angeloffire2917 isn't it obvious? Its literally "strongest servant each class" so definetly Archer Gilgamesh

[@angeloffire2917]

@@ghanialter7103 I meant are you talking about the ccc gil, s/f gil or other versions of gil

[@angeloffire2917]

@Luci_Guy ik

[@user-te9zg8tc3t]

For the archer class i think it's Gilgamesh without his arrogance. I didn't watch all the fate series but the strongest Lancer I've seen is karna he picked every fight he can,and who watched fate apokrifa know how he lose. And for a master i think it's from apokrifa the White haired guy (i forgot his name) he controlled 6 servants and what servant we are talking about:karna, Akhil, Atalanta, Semiramis, Shakespeare,and the caster from the other team and they were using their noble phantasm and all thier strength at the same time,and he picked a fight when ever he can❤❤❤

[@Hazel564]

you understimated manaka when she literally are one of the two people who is connected to the root and she ca also manipulate reality due to that and even without servants she is extremely strong having being excellent in mage craft and also being extremely agile and fast

[@user-te9zg8tc3t]

@@Hazel564 maybe, but the guy I'm talking about isn't a normal human he was a servant in the 3rd grail war and survived and waited for the 5th grail war Where there was 14 servants Because the more there are, the stronger the Holy Grail becomes

[@user-te9zg8tc3t]

​@@Hazel564and I just remembered that there is a stronger master, it's Sakura from Fate/stay night Movie: -Heaven's Feel - I. Presage Flower. -Heaven's Feel - II. Lost Butterfly. -Heaven's Feel - III. Spring Song. No one was able to stand against her When she was using the power of that shadow, even when they allied.

[@theonewhospeaksfacts]

Lets run through these: Saber shiki:shes practically featless as a saber, MHX also goes on to call her mushashi level and we already have like 4 statements saying that artoria is the strongest saber servant Alter eresh:was able to completly obliterate activated ORT's body and when dairmuid saw that he Said eresh could repel a vanguard of an umbral star(aka sefar) tho we dont know which stage he was reffering to, problem something in-between 3-7 King hassan, i have no issue with this, he was stated by gawain to being comparable to lion king(1500y old goddess rongomyniad) who's np had 3mil magical power in it and mind you Chaldea's strongest NP's ever recorded was only in-between 1500-3000 thousand energy (and da vinci and romani already saw kingu's and Gilgamesh EA) so yeah fair placement Noah, no issue with this either, able to repel Draco's flood which was already bigger then tiamat's sea of life Tiamat, dont know shit about her alter ego feats so imma just take into account her feats as a beast, which if we do then yeah correct have no isuee with this Camazotz, he was able to beat prime ORT with help from tepu, so fair placement Manaka, full potential ? Sure but if its only including her feats that she shown then no she aint the strongest master, grand forginer ORT(which technically counts) daybit with aliens god heart kaira and wodime slam Morgan, beryl calls her the strongest being on the planet after alien god failed to fuse with the fanasty tree, her with her water mirror was already stated and thought of to being at the same level as the previous lostbelt kings, has 12 rhongo's, Overall could be made an argument for her being the strongest lostbelt king, so correct Super orion, if its Hephaestus bow orion then yes, tho if its normal super orion then no, he already lost to amazoness.com event penthseilia who is relative to her normal self who got one shotted by bradamante who lost to saint martha blah blah blah, Heracles was also stated to be the strongest olympic hero so him in his archer form>Orio Others im just to lazy to address, theyre correcr anyways

[@alispeed5095]

_Noah, no issue with this either, able to repel Draco's flood which was already bigger then tiamat's sea of life_ Why do you guys think this is a big deal? Dracos tsunami being stronger than tiamats chao tide ( bigger, stronger waves) isnt much of an achievement. Chaos tide is not strong for its capacity to wash away civilization. Its the content ie sea of life aka grail mud that is deadly. Chaos tide which is the name given to the act through which the sea moves is just that. You saw it in the anime. Similar to how the act of slow movement by humans is called "walking" Chaos tide is the name given to movement of tiamats sea of life. Its pretty slow and unimpressive (granted it would take like 3days to cover the world?). However unlike Draco's tsunami, the grail mud is nasty as hell. Am sure you know how potent that shit is. TLDR: Noahs feat isnt that big of a deal. Its hyped using a none feat ie tiamats capacity to create tsanamis lmao. It never was a strength of hers. So what gives? Anyway Noah is among the weakest grands we have seen so far. Dude could never defeat a guy like Gil thats for sure. I can see him defending against ea but what can he do to Gil?

[@theonewhospeaksfacts]

​@@alispeed5095 ah another Gilgamesh wanker, your probably gonna ignore what im gonna say but sure lemme try So uhh you do realize that in the london singularity it was directly told to us that grand servants have inherently higher authority and a more powerful vessel and an overall stronger saint graph output then any regular servant right ? Just letting that be known And noah matching draco is a really big feat, cuz he was essentially able to have a draw with her and this was fatigued Noah mind you cuz the moment he was summoned he was weakened and attacked by draco, so him matching a being with a third planetary class output would already make him have more firepower then anything that Gilgamesh would hope to output

[@balaka3020]

People still think that Tiamat is weak, she is strongest beast and its funniest cus no one besides Hassan can inflict meaning of death to her. That meaning she is truly immortal

[@Nameless0ne419]

im not… sold on Ryougi Shiki being the saber fit… but i will admit she’s one of the sabers i know the least about. 🤔

[@abuukarez5161]

Thank You.

[@ghanialter7103]

Np

[@Aviq1]

my best Joanna d.Arc ruler in no only in power, the heart

[@redducky9331]

I think Gil is the strongest archer just because of Ea and his clairvoyant skill even as an archer.

[@ultimateplainmastermind3268]

I think i can argue Quetzalcoatl is the best rider 😭

[@constantdemonics]

I think it’s a weird choice having Solomon as the strongest caster cause while he qualifies as Grand Caster we don’t know his actual strength because Goetia was using his own strength channeled through Solomon’s body. I’d genuinely say it’s Merlin because of his pseudo-immortality.

[@constantdemonics]

Also we haven’t seen Zeus as a servant, only as his actual self

[@fersho450]

Solomon can do everything Goetia did faster and easier

[@constantdemonics]

@@fersho450 no, no he can’t. A grand servant is much weaker than a beast.

[@aermik]

Gonna add a few things. 1. Strongest berserker is TECHNICALLY Tezcalipoca with Arjuna Alter being a 2nd place. Arjuna Alter being part god makes him way stronger than most other servants including Morrigan who would be 3rd. Berserker Tezcalipoca could fight a peak Camazotz and win who fought ORT and won. 2. Strongest Lancer is Romulus. Dude is actually nutso in terms of power. 3. Beni-Enma alter is too much for Camazotz. She wins saber pretty handily.

[@ghanialter7103]

1. Tezcatlipoca is stronger in assassin Class, and He literally got beated by fujimaru 1 vs 1 in His own domain, also camazotz that He fought is not at full power, camazotz already use Most of His mana when fighting Ort and in Order to create 3 Alter servants (Beni, Nito, eresh) Godjuna only strong in His lostbelt. Morgan literally could Nuke a whole lostbelt with her rhongo while chilling on her throne Here in fate, it doesnt matter even If you are a God or divine being, You will not guarantee to wins againts some humans 2. Ereshkigal Alter is on par even stronger than Kukulkan who one shoot Grand Foreigner ORT that scale above Olympus chaos and Chaos literally no diffed Romulus lol 3. Beni Enma literally Made from Camazotz mana...., and camazotz is not in His true power, Void Shiki is too much for her...

[@aermik]

@@ghanialter7103 Tezcatlipoca is actually much stronger as a berserker which he confirms and confirms he's the true Grand Berserker. The only reason why he's assassin is because the old man stopped being the grand assassin. Also godly mana matters for a LOT in Fate. Yes you will still lose to humans (plot) but godly mana is why a lot of stronger servants are the way they are. Morrigan may be strong but she's not a god. I can see the argument though on her being weaker than Arjuna alter on average, but if we are using that argument then absolutely I'm not going to count Eresh Alter as #1 lancer. 2. I don't buy that she's on par with full power Kukulkan Since Ku only needed to use her NP once to beat her even with Eresh having a massive power boost. Only reason why she did as well as she did at the time was because she had massive boosts from divine beasts and other hax. I'd still give it to Romulus since he holds the title of grand servant. 3. Idk if I can count Void Shiki due to being featless. Like.. if we're going based on author statements then yeah. Tbh though I don't think Nasu has a good enough hold of his own lore to make such statements. Dude retcons things on the regular.

[@RandomWeeboo]

I think Daybit and Wodime can beat Manaka. If I remember well, she died because she was back stabbed by Arthur. If there's a way, Kirschtaria and Daybit will figure it out and make it happen. I didn't take Gilgamesh or Kiara as masters because it wouldn't be fair.

[@Ngaihawma420]

I've never heard of many of these class and servants. Are they mostly from the games? cause i only watched the animes

[@cheesetomeetyou]

From a game called FGO. It's on mobile

[@dicedonion464]

Not to shit on eresh but shouldnt melusine be considered for the lancer one as well? Albion's breath is the only thing we know for sure is capable of tearing a hole through oberon's noble phantasm/abyssal worm form, and said noble phantasm is capable of swallowing all servants here except maybe spishtar and kuku, plus it is said several times that pure blooded dragons were the most powerful beings to ever inhabit the earth, and she's the remains of the last one of said beings, hell, arcueid's skill descriptions imply that her "breath of the planet" is a little weaker in magical energy output to a dragon core like melusine's

[@ghanialter7103]

Mélusine need to do a kamikaze thing in Order to pierce through insect of abyss FROM OUTSIDE, i bet she cant even break through insect of abyss from the inside... Ereshkigal "ALTER", in the other hand is able to beat Kukulkan who one shoot Grand Foreigner ORT, she also stated to be equal to sefar the white Titan Ereshkigal Alter >>>>> Melusine>=Ereshkigal

[@metal_gear_rayquaza8914]

Mmm...honestly, the strongest Berserker could be either Morgan or Arjuna Alter

[@charlesn5621]

I love this video, you should rank each of these characters next from weakest to strongest 🥹

[@ghanialter7103]

Maybe later

[@fearbuttera9477]

Ishtar appearance W

[@bedoabi6358]

I just realized, but Zeus looks a bit like Zelretch or is it just me? Especially when viewed from the side profile

[@theemperorofthecrimeworld7381]

Hmmm I would give best berserker to alter Arjuna being able to destory and replace the whole planet with a flick of your hand is crazy

[@ghanialter7103]

First, Arjuna need a hell of prep time to do that Second, Arjuna need to be inside his lostbelt to become that powerfull Third, Morgan Scale above Zeus that was 1000 Times stronger than Arjuna Alter

[@justsomerandomweeb9323]

No, his power is only limited to his lostbelt and he needs prep time to that while morgan have the capacity to literally destroy other lostbelts with his rhongomyniad

[@morsayxd]

​​@@ghanialter7103 that is not true , read correctly the fight , he started charging when he was fighting karna and took less of half an hour to fire mahapralaya , the only thing he needs the tree for is to shorten the yuga cycle from a millenia to weekly occurence which has nothing to do with his destructive abilities , his power emmanate from the faith of its peoples , every lostbelt king needs there lostbelt to remain that powerful , morgan is that strong only in her lostbelt as well thx to all the mana she collected in her throne and the rongo she created. As servants there powers fall CONSIDERABLY especially her , her durability is mediocre and wouldnt even be able to tank an attack from base arjuna. Zeus is far stronger than her btw

[@morsayxd]

​@@justsomerandomweeb9323read correctly karna vs arjuna first incounter

[@giyutomioka4809]

​@@morsayxddoesn't matter what's the impact of Arjuna's np... The fact is, his np is only limited into Lostbelt 4, and it can't impact outside LB4... But Morgan's np is not limited, she can use it outside her domain... Then again, Morgan also launched Rongominyad in LB5... Even Beryl mentioned that Morgan is the STRONGEST LB King among all seven... Kukulkan with ORT heart is different case, it was unexpected to everyone... But without it, Morgan was the strongest LB king... Not to mention, Wodime was also afraid of Morgan... That's why he told Beryl to destroy LB6 tree...

[@jasonramsey1493]

My thoughts I was never a fan of MJ( black cat is better) but I understood the dynamic that heroes kinda do need that normalcy break that a civilian gives them. Now gtfoh MJ no way you can put these two back together and be like yeah back to standard.

[@nightshadoew436]

Eresh seems a bit of a reach since she is largely on a similar level to Ishtar (You can argue one is stronger butthey are relative, especially in neutral terrotory) I would have choosen Mr. ROMEEEE as the strongest Lancer since she is the only Grand Lancer we know. Or Karna failing that since that dude is a monster

[@ghanialter7103]

This is Ereshkigal Alter who is on par with Kukulkan who one shoot grand foreigner ORT that scale above 3% chaos that no diffed Quirinus... Also normal Eresh is far stronger than ishtar like 100 Times lol

[@nightshadoew436]

​@@ghanialter71031)Eresh is not 100 times stronger than Ishtar in neutral teratory, they are "two sides of the same coin" so they are relative. Sure, I will give if they fought Eresh would win more often due to her NP but that doesn’t make her 100 times stronger, or even 2 times stronger 2)While I am not very familiar with LB7 as I am NA only from what I remember Eresh didn’t defeat Kukulkan, just held her off for a bit so putting her in the same class as her is bit of a streach 3)What do you mean by that 3% chaos thing? I never heard that 4)When did Mr Rome fight ORT? I don’t remember that at all

[@ghanialter7103]

@@nightshadoew436 1. 100 Times stronger is just a sarcasm (or what it callled i forgor) 2. Eresh Alter is stronger than Kukulkan, Kukulkan need to fight her in Air so she can beat her due having a advantage, otherwise If they fought on the ground Kukulkan says that she would possibly lose 3. Chaos in lostbelt 5 Olympus is Not in Its true power, If im Not mistaken it only have 3% of its power but manage to make Musashi become data lost and force Ares and Quirinus to use all of His mana in Order to make a path for chaldea to survive againts chaos 4. I didnt say Quirinus fight Ort, let me explain my previous comment: "Eresh Alter on par with Kukulkan that one shoot grand foreigner Ort who (refer to Ort) Scale above 3% Chaos that (refer to chaos) no diff Quirinus" To put it short - Eresh Alter >= Kukulkan - Kukulkan > GF ORT - GF ORT > 3% Chaos - 3% Chaos > Romulus Quirinus Did you finally understand?

[@nightshadoew436]

@@ghanialter7103 2)I did not know that. All I knew was that they fought. 3)I think you are refering to Chaos using most of it's existanxe to send the machine gods away but you are forgetting that after that it Merged with the gaps of the Universe' space (I think that was how it was phrased) so I don’t think it is fair to claim he is still at 3% power 4)How do you scale ORT to Chaos? I don’t remember them ever being mentioned together let alone fighting each other or the same person for scaling. I even checked the wiki if they ever fought or was compared but I couldn’t find anything

[@alispeed5095]

@@nightshadoew436 ORt is never compared to Chaos. For all we know Chaos is way stronger than lb7 ORT. Even pph ORt l would argue. It makes sense logically. Rememeber chaos was gonna eat and digest the planet within mere moments. ORt couldnt do that over the millenia it spent fighting camazots. It couldnt manage to destroy a mere texture ie lost belt 7 texture. Chaos was gonna digest data on the the planet leaving it in its primordial state. There is no comparison. Also, the 3% thing makes no sense and is stated no where. All we know is that the attack was merely a reflex. similar to how you slap a mosquito without acknowledging its existence. Chaos did not even know that we stopped him. He was that far away from us. A being capable of engulfing an entire star! How big are stars? Our planet is like a peanut. A mere snack. Currently only Space ishtar is above Chaos.

[@darkvoid589]

Nice

[@Artem-eu3uv]

Camazotz🔥

[@user-so7dd7pn7l]

I still don't belive that Morgan is berserk he totaly act like a chaster

[@alonsopalmagajardo7756]

I have a doubt with berseker because of arjuna alter and lancer since the Grand lancer is romulus quirinus and the grand lancwr and because melusine exist

[@ghanialter7103]

@@alonsopalmagajardo7756 Morgan:- destroy a whole olympus Fantasy tree while chillin on her throne -her Clone alone literally solo a while chaldea including castoria Ereshkigal "Alter": Equal to Sefar

[@joiseydragun7110]

Funny. My Arjuna's cleared alot more for me than my Super Orion. Don't get me wrong, Super Orion's pretty cool and he's funny when he needs to be. But in FGO, Both my Arjune and Arjuna Alter are GOATed for me.

[@Nameless0ne419]

I understand this to an extent. AoE’s are great. but Grandpa Hassan will forever be my goat assassin 😤

[@Superseniorgojo69]

I clicked bc of the thumbnail

[@WorldLore1543]

When the fuck fate class suddenly this many. All i know everything before saber and the rest is foreign

[@TheWatcherBTW]

Interesting, that both of em (Ereshkigal and Ishtar) is strongest in their class. Even here they together, Hehe

[@Eltunum-x26]

Ishtar is not the strongest in her class anymore it would be Nitocris

[@yoomene]

Romulus-Quirinus should be the Lancer imo even if it might be close

[@ghanialter7103]

Its not Close Ereshkigal "Alter" >>>> Romulus Quirinus >> Ereshkigal

[@yoomene]

@@ghanialter7103 oh i trust you gonna re read eresh alter capacity

[@yoomene]

Love your edits btw

[@thephantom9227]

Strongest know saber is Prototype Arthur Pendragon. Defeated Sefar and Beast Hunter.

[@biswakalyanmallick1143]

Can anyone tell me about karna and how strong he is?

[@ravensrodd]

Shiki in saber? Also im curious how anyone can be stronger than Abby since she holds the silver key Also Zeus is not a servant.

[@lusiliana4344]

Gilgamesh>>>

[@ghanialter7103]

Nope...every single character here would slams him

[@rhemaamenkhienan9220]

Eresh alter over roma is bonkers

[@ghanialter7103]

@@rhemaamenkhienan9220 its true tho... Eresh Alter=Sefar>Zeus (13 Olympian gods 100%)>>>>>>>Zeus (35%)>Romulus

[@admiralbright7308]

what's the lore on eresh alter? i thought maybe romulus being grand lancer might be stronger no?

[@save738]

Pretty accurate

[@harmony5305]

Huh i thought Romulus Quirinus was the grand Lancer

[@ghanialter7103]

Yes, but he was not the strongest lancer

[@b_ajengmeira920]

What is manaka sajyou lore? She looks like a normal child

[@4ryd511]

im only here because of the thumbnail

[@SomaSchiffer]

Tezcatlipoca Grand assassin: gramps thats my spot

[@ghanialter7103]

Nah....gramps would Slams him He even lose againts fujimaru alone

[@SomaSchiffer]

@@ghanialter7103 Yes, but considering that in the fight he technically "helps" us during his own fight instead of annihilating us, and taking into account that NO was a grand until we summoned him Even the guy went with Daybit to the Quetzalcoatl temple to wait and we didn't even dematerialize him The only thing that kept him very strong was U'Olga Marie's core which was far below Kukulkan's level.... and it is assumed that in her dream (a memory of the past while we were not with her) she fought against 7 grand servants, including tezcatlipoca (Grand berserker) and gramps I still don't know if I should take that into account, although it could be possible taking into account the difference in powers between Tezca and Gramps

[@SomaSchiffer]

@@ghanialter7103 i love gramps as a character and Grand servant but we have to admit that tezcatlipoca is overpowered againts him

[@ghanialter7103]

@@SomaSchiffer gramps feats & abilities as far as i know/remember: - no diffed sun empowered gawain - manage to enter ozy temple without him knowing - one shoot three Offspring lahmus who is on par with demon god pillar - manage to cut Ereshkigal spirit without her a literally owner of underworld or any chaldea member noticing - able to enter underworld and didnt get Weakened/debuff - able to enter nega genesis who stated only living being can enter it while He is a servant - can give someone ptsd from their past - never use His NP but still a beast - top Tier Regeneration Capabilities - a master tactitian as an assassin - Teleport almost everywhere He want - etc Tezcatlipoca is weaker than gramps by feats and statement But He also Not in His Power due to His saint Graph cant hold His true power so...we don't know how strong He really is Potentialy since there is also no statement that state His potential power capabilities

[@SomaSchiffer]

@@ghanialter7103 Yeah,The only thing that limits letting him have a lot of power is his own Saint graph, sadly, I still feel that Tezcatlipoca could give him a lot of fight

[@morsayxd]

As a lostbelt king , morgan is probably stronger than junao i still think it is highly debatable since only the stats can allow them to be compared , but as a servant not happening , just cu alter and herc are stronger , for rider ozy is the strongest , archer is gilgamesh , assassin is tezcatlipoca , saber is ibuki , Ruler is qin shi huang. Remember the grand container isnt there actual strength but a temporary status boost given by alaya. Shiki as a servant never show any access to the root As fas i know so no. Zeus isnt a servant.

[@user-rw3jz1he2z]

I disagree respectfully. The grand assassin title was made for Hassan and Tezcatlipoca is the closest to a replacement to king hassan. I think void Shiki is leagues above Ibaraki considering her connection to the root. And while you make a good point that it is not clearly shown in what ways she would use her power, we have to consider the potential. That is the reason why I would agree with gil bein the strongest archer because he has higher potential.

[@morsayxd]

correction , after playing lb6 properly , there is no way arjuna alter isnt beating up morgan

[@N.D.K_GAMEZ]

Legit thought nero was the stongest beast ngl

[@alispeed5095]

Nah, hard to say. How would one reach that conclusion? Do you base on the difficulty of defeating her? In that case she loses out since Goetia or tiamat required alot more to defeat Do you then rely on feats? Those too dont mean much if you were defeated by people that couldnt defeat the other beasts. And beasts like Camazots have a feat she can never measure too (Ort baby) The only statement that alludes to her being stronger is the one about her saint graph signature. But that says nothing at the end of the day since its not mentioned for all other beasts. Just her. I mean whats tiamats saint graph signature? Is she 2nd planetary like Goetia? or maybe less? but that can be since Rhong claims she may be stronger than goetia? See? That signature stuff sadly makes little sense, so meh. My beast ranking would be Goetia= tiamat= Camazots= Draco > Other beasts

[@tanach4849]

alter ego limbo/ashiya doman

[@ghanialter7103]

Nah, Tiamat destroy nega Genesis is enough

[@tanach4849]

@@ghanialter7103 Even with the support of Mash Kyrielight, Lancelot, Sakata Kintoki, and Tamamo-no-Mae, Tiamat doesn't stand a chance at defeating Nebuchadnezzar II.5 ashiya domon (Fused with the Naraka Mandala which absorbed Ibuki-douji and had magical energy greater than hers. The Settsu Armor Kumano was able to hold Aphrodite down and damage her, Limbo claimed it wouldn't be able to do anything to him before wielding the Kusanagi-no-Tachi. Stated that even the highest divinities would be dancing in his palm). Ashiya Douman tries and fails to become a Beast because a requirement for being an Evil of Humanity is that they love humanity, which he does not , Limbo's own mana is on par with that of a Divine Spirit. Though he is still an Extra Class Servant, he doesn't shift to a Beast Saint Graph powerful Xian Art spell which originated from Vulture Peak, that according to him could only be stopped by an Anti-Purge Defense, only for Danzou to finish him off with her second noble phantasm. During the Heian-kyō Lostbelt, Ashiya Douman absorbs Ibuki-douji in an attempt to become a Beast, however, he fails due to holding no love for Humanity.

[@bietongliemkhonng]

briar cái đặc biệt của nó là cơ chế "Điên cuồng" của nó mà ông

[@user-dy6ig7fb8r]

А ничего, что Моргана лостбельтная и не связана с человеческой историей и следовательно эта версия Морганы не может быть призвана в войну святого Грааля и автоматически не может считаться Гранд Берсеркером?

[@UnlimitedPlatesWorks]

do you take requests could you do an edit for camazotz vs Tiamat? I love them both and just wanna see a bomb ass edit. ^o^

[@ghanialter7103]

Beast Tiamat or True form Tiamat?

[@UnlimitedPlatesWorks]

@@ghanialter7103 Beast

[@ok-rx5eu]

​@@ghanialter7103i am still new to grand order so i don't really know most of the details but is there a difference between beast tiamat and true form tiamat

[@ghanialter7103]

@@ok-rx5eu so basically true form Tiamat > beast form Tiamat > Alter ego Tiamat Its because alive servant (when they didnt become servant yet) is far more powerfull than when they become servant cause a servant are effected by concept of Gaia and Alaya also the counter force who prevent them to release their true power, so they power are limited to a planetary level

[@acutebutdangerouspickle38]

Tiamat vs Camazotz would be a stalemate I reckon. Tiamat has no way to put down Cama for real and Cama has no way to put death on Tiamat.

[@Solarbug2024]

You forgot gil is an archer

[@ghanialter7103]

Artemis (LB) > Gilgamesh Archer And Super Orion > Artemis (LB)

[@Kibuka237]

My glorius king Gilgamesh

[@christopher9025]

shirou my goat

[@AmoureuxPlayz]

Ereskigal is stronger than scathach, romulus quirinus, and enkidu? Is this real?

[@ghanialter7103]

Ereshkigal Alter yes