Best RV Inverter Generator? - Honda EU2200i vs Westinghouse iGen2500

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@claraliedle8409
@claraliedle8409 4 жыл бұрын
@matturner7763
@matturner7763 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jen , it's Mat. It's been a while since I've heard from my most favorite DISPATCHER !!! I yall are doing well.
@Honestandtruth007
@Honestandtruth007 Жыл бұрын
Just Subscribed for your Honest and Straight talk in Reliability of Both Generator Components 👍👍
@sammygibson-th8mr
@sammygibson-th8mr Жыл бұрын
That was a very well made video. Straight to the point with no useless information. Most folks go on for a whole minute or two about useless junk. I enjoyed watching this video.
@1948painter
@1948painter 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a Westinghouse iGen2500 in late 2018. Used it for the first and thus far only time for 36 hours straight when Hurricane Laura knocked out power with winds of about 50 mph where I live in Louisiana. Generator worked fine powering refrigerator, fan, TV, and light. I also used it briefly to run a microwave and toaster. Got about 9 hours on one tank of gasoline. Hope I don't need it again anytime soon.
@mdbritton9424
@mdbritton9424 2 жыл бұрын
Wow totally not getting the gas usage
@Rob-tl9md
@Rob-tl9md 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdbritton9424 I am quite sure that wasn't even close to the 1/4 usage for fuel rating
@davidjeannieintexas7816
@davidjeannieintexas7816 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the new Honda EU2200i Companion. I also have an 18 year old Honda EB 3000. It can sit in my garage for a year or longer and it still starts on the first pull! My opinion, Honda is by far the best small engine on the market. ( I also have an older Honda powered high pressure washer, same thing, starts on the first pull). Never had an issue with either engine.
@Gratefulwon
@Gratefulwon 5 жыл бұрын
I vote cheap. When it gets stolen, you won’t cry as long.
@thooper4380
@thooper4380 Жыл бұрын
I've got the Westinghouse. It ran everything but my trailer's AC. Added a hard start kit to that, and it runs it fine too. I don't care to buy anything more expensive.
@gum761
@gum761 3 жыл бұрын
my honda eu2200 is about 15 years old. still runs like a champ!
@Factory400
@Factory400 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have a generator rental business. From large 120Kw trailers to the original Honda EU2000. The Honda's were abused beyond anything they were intended for. The users didn't care and they ran for thousands of hours - no issues at all. I just yesterday received another EU2200i for my personal RV. There is no reason to mess around with copy cats.
@jeffouellette9946
@jeffouellette9946 3 жыл бұрын
that doesn't make sense your comment. Yes Honda's been around for a while but Honda wasn't the first generator. So nobody's copying anything. And at the end of the day you can't even prove that Honda was the first generator like these. I'm sure somebody out there that can prove it but you can't.
@PaulsPhotoSevice
@PaulsPhotoSevice 5 жыл бұрын
I go with Honda. I have s EU2200i. Love it. Dependable, quiet and easy to store. Runs my A/C in our Lance 850 no problem. I also have the battery charge cords to charge up our car battery if needed. Not jump but charge it. Wouldn’t go with anything else.
@johnrenning6480
@johnrenning6480 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Westinghouse iGen2500 last year. I love Honda, but with the amount of intended use, it came down to price. I do like the added digital readouts on the iGen2500. Something to consider is that Westinghouse has great customer service! I did ask them what kind of engine they put in it and they told me it is a Ducar engine. I looked up that company and they appear to be the ones that manufacture the engine and housing, but not necessarily all the electrical components. The engine is smaller at 98cc. What the horsepower comes down to is the rpm at which the engine must rev up to to attain that power output. In this case, the idle down speed is around 3,100 rpm but under high loads, it'll rev to 5,500 rpm. A larger engine, like in the Honda, will not have to rev quite as high for the same power output.
@tinalavender9506
@tinalavender9506 5 жыл бұрын
I just had work done on my Honda (eu7000is), and it was completely covered under warranty, at 2.5 years old and 4500+ hours. Honda all the way! It's worth the price.
@the88observer
@the88observer 4 жыл бұрын
you pay somebody overseas and you leave your people poor...
@tinalavender9506
@tinalavender9506 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Chill dude..... I shop local whenever I can.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
@@the88observer Nonsense comment.
@infoanalysis
@infoanalysis 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is excellent He really gets to the core of the issue why is it so much more for a Honda.
@craigwflys
@craigwflys 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison between the two. Three years ago I bought the Westinghouse WH2400i (around $600) because I couldn't afford the Honda but I've only used it once. I knew I'd hardly use it which is why I went with the cheaper of the two but so far haven't had any problems. Glad I have one just in case of an emergency.
@dustinmccory524
@dustinmccory524 3 жыл бұрын
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@lehelzelenka207
@lehelzelenka207 3 жыл бұрын
We had a Honda i1000 generator in a repair shop where I worked. Literally cant say anything about it because it always started without any tinkering. Always started in a matter of a few pulls even when it sat for a month. But at 1000€ price tag, you really don't expect nothing less but a perfect generator.
@kfink77
@kfink77 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this guy plus his knowledge and ability to explain it are priceless!
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hectoraguirre903
@hectoraguirre903 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have the Honda 2200 a couple of years and love it. I usually dry camp at one of our local lakes and run it 4-5 days nonstop and it runs flawlessly. I just change the oil between trips.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome good to hear! Honda is definitely the gold standard
@petegaiser7160
@petegaiser7160 3 жыл бұрын
Same here I do clean the spark arrestor also easy to do.
@eadam2582
@eadam2582 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned the Westinghouse wh2200ixlt 2200 watt model generator for around 8 years now. I use it every year while camping and any time I have a power outage. I change the oil as recommended and have never had any issues with this little generator. It always starts in 2-3 pulls and runs like a champ! Its very quiet and sips the gas! I would definitely be interested in trying this newer model with the higher wattage output!
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
I believe most of the Westinghouse are good, and a few duds slip through. The reviews you see tend to support that.
@cap10joe2000
@cap10joe2000 Жыл бұрын
great video, looked at the honda about 2 yrs ago but was outside of my budget. I ended up getting the igen 2500, 1473 hours later and it is still going, lots of oil changes, and a cpl spark plugs along the way, but still going strong.
@kevdeg5579
@kevdeg5579 4 жыл бұрын
David, we find that how we want to live in our new rv is closer to how you live than just about anyone on youtube. We always enjoy your videos and usually mod many of the same things in it as you have. We almost bought the westinghouse and just decided to go honda after all. The quietness and propane kit were huge in our decision, but a larger, stronger engine nearly always means less engine strain and more reliability. YOU have helped us more than you can ever realize with your vids, thanks.
@DownsizingMakesCents
@DownsizingMakesCents 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure you always store with fuel stabilizer, I have had my Honda for 15 years, got me through many hurricanes
@paulbaker3144
@paulbaker3144 5 жыл бұрын
Downsizing Makes Cents Exactly! Ive got a 40 year old Honda generator. Still runs.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
Better yet, get the fuel out of it.
@bobo-wf1jv
@bobo-wf1jv 4 жыл бұрын
I just ran my Generac GP2200i (same design as your Westinghouse) for over 13 hours during recent power outage powering fridge, separate garage deep freeze, periodic induction cooking plate, USB charger, fiber optic modem and wireless router, household lighting and watched a movie on flat panel TV .. and it didn't skip a beat .. started on first pull. I posted a video on my site .. actually three and showed it on eco-mode whilst running. Cheers ... just saying, that for half the price, it did a very nice "quiet" job .. just being honest.
@adamharris2674
@adamharris2674 4 жыл бұрын
They are not "half the price" at all, don't know why people keep saying that..
@ryan1880
@ryan1880 Жыл бұрын
​​@@adamharris2674 you are correct. They are less than half the price. $549 vs $1199
@billg1527
@billg1527 5 жыл бұрын
The big thing too is ever needing repair, Certified Honda repair shops are in every major town. I have had the 3000i for many years, it is just a beast that keeps on going. Honda all the way for the long term investment.
@moegreenbl
@moegreenbl 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old four wheeler that has a Honda clone 110 engine you can't kill it it's just as good as the Honda I have a 1983 Honda 50 which is still running as well. The only thing bad about the four-wheeler is the frame around it sucks. Any shop that can repair a Yamaha or a Honda Will repair one of these clones and it's cheaper to repair them as well.
@harrymalave1813
@harrymalave1813 3 жыл бұрын
Had a Honda that I used for 4 months on a daily basis after the hurricanes in Puerto Rico. No issues. Will pay extra again for the known reliability.
@thunderloud4457
@thunderloud4457 4 жыл бұрын
There’s reasons why every generator is comparing to Honda..think about it
@christinesmith7625
@christinesmith7625 4 жыл бұрын
i have the honda best thats it
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 4 жыл бұрын
It’s red. Everybody loves the color red.
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton 4 жыл бұрын
You got it buh!
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton 4 жыл бұрын
Honda dedicated themselves to producing utterly bullet proof equipment of this type, as well as lawn mowers and brush cutters, etc. It ain't gonna go wrong, almost guaranteed! I say "almost" thinking there must be one, right? *Sound of wind and tumbleweed meandering through the desert...* lol
@JamesSmith-pc6bh
@JamesSmith-pc6bh 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but if you don't happen to have 1000 dollars to spend you gotta go with the cheaper one.
@TheWasden9
@TheWasden9 5 жыл бұрын
David, you are the best! Both you and Jenny are so clear and thorough in your research and evaluations of products you test and recommend, as well as describing camping tips locations, situations that can occur for us RV'rs. Thank You So Much!
@UncaDave
@UncaDave 5 жыл бұрын
Good video David and good comparison. I have the Westinghouse 2200 and for 2 years no problems. Also I have found good technical support from Westinghouse. Points about the Honda are well taken but I was able to afford the Westinghouse. Good job!
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
If the cheaper option is performing well then that seems like the best case scenario! Saving money is the best. Good to hear from you again Dave 👍
@UncaDave
@UncaDave 5 жыл бұрын
Fate Unbound To make a generator last longer, change the oil every 25-30 hours because these generators have no oil filter and they lubricate with “splash lubrication”. Got this from the Westinghouse engineer. Also “train” or break in your unit by powering different wattages for an hour or so. I used an electric oil heater that allowed me to change the wattage. My Westinghouse required me to use a break in oil for the first 50 hours. Whatever you do being maintenance minded will hopefully make it last. Also I have tried to load the higher wattage and it worked well. No argument on the Honda quality. It’s just a lot more money.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 5 жыл бұрын
I had an 1800 watt Coleman generator than never missed a beat. I only paid $300 for it. I should have kept it. I have Honda’s now but the Coleman did everything i needed and kept our house from freezing up at minus 50 on several occasions.
@artpimentel5244
@artpimentel5244 Жыл бұрын
Great product and price for our needs. RV and power outages arrived in time.
@videoprotectedcom
@videoprotectedcom 2 жыл бұрын
Good day friends, thank you for the effort in putting together the video. Very informative. I will rarely use my new Westinghouse generator. I just ordered one thru sams club for $349.00 plus tax. and free delivery. I have a honda eu1000i for about 6 years with 0 problems.
@davidmatt904
@davidmatt904 3 жыл бұрын
I value your opinion and common sense to your reviews .
@mykecussion6541
@mykecussion6541 4 жыл бұрын
As Thomas said, the Westinghouse is actually a generic Chinese-made generator. There is also a 3200W inverter version that is capable of powering 30Amp continuous shore power. They are good quality, and the replacement circuit boards are readily available. The boards are usually the first thing to fail in any inverter generator. I paid $520 Canadian for mine, whereas the 3000W Honda, or Onan that the RV dealer recommended, were in the $3000 Canadian range.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy money for the Honda. They are about $1200 USD at Home Depot.
@TheMickeymental
@TheMickeymental 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. You did miss a few salient points. The Honda generator has many accessories from many different sources and also a plethora of service centers, and parts are readily available.Where would you get a high-altitude carburetor needle for a Westinghouse and who would install it? KZbin has many videos on repairing a Honda generator and they are fairly easy to work on. The digital readout means very little to me, but that is in my application. The Honda will surge to 2200 watts for thirty minutes while most brands will surge to their max for thirty seconds. This may be why the Westinghouse can get more wattage from a smaller engine. Another feature about the Honda is resale. I have run into some hard times and had to sell two Eu 2000i's to make ends meet. From the time I purchased the units until the time I sold them the Honda's had gone up in price and I to about five percent less than what I paid for it and they sell quickly. Take good care of these units, oil is cheap and I change mine even if it ran for fifteen minutes. The last item is the warranty, keep a detailed spreadsheet of the maintenance done, as I have read Honda may ask for this for warranty work. The main warranty item is setting the valve lash, have a shop do it for a good record or take pictures and document your work. Honda has been know to void the warranty if this is not done at 200 hours. Honda generators are made to produce clean power consistently, and dependably; as for me keep the bells and whistles I electrical power Thanks for the video, good luck.
@samsonite8017
@samsonite8017 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video! As a side note, you could potentially test the actual watts output between the 2 generators using an amp probe or a kill-a-watt to confirm actual max continuous duty output, to figure out if they meet up to the manufacturer claims.
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 3 жыл бұрын
The Westinghouse generator's smaller engine probably runs at higher RPM's than the Honda generator's engine. Although higher engine RPM's will likely cause the engine components to wear more quickly (shorter engine life). But, if the generator isn't used very much (backup purposes or camping just a few weeks a year), engine life may not be that big of concern.
@jim293
@jim293 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video. We run the Honda EU 2200 and the companion. I love them. They start on every pull and they run so quiet.
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 5 жыл бұрын
For the price of one Honda EU2200i, you can buy 2 Westinghouse units and parallel kit and end up with plenty of power to run the 15K btu A/C unit in a RV. The Westinghouse has a Chinese clone of a Yamaha engine. Tip: Run these on 100% gasoline and never worry about issues with ethanol in fuel.
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 3 жыл бұрын
My igen2500 runs a 16k AC no problem, plus a marine water pump.
@suppaman12
@suppaman12 3 жыл бұрын
@@allynonderdonk7577 exactly what I needed to hear!!
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 3 жыл бұрын
@@suppaman12 Be careful though not all AC units draw the same startup load. If it doesn't start yours you can install a soft start unit or a victron multiplus inverter charger. Both help start larger loads. One helps the compressor start over a longer time with less amp draw, the other will boost startup loads from battery power.
@suppaman12
@suppaman12 3 жыл бұрын
@@allynonderdonk7577 thanks. I have a 10k btu portable. In Houston the storms always knock out our Power. I just want to be able to run that ac and a fridge. I’m hoping the 2500 will do since I just ordered it
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 3 жыл бұрын
@@suppaman12 It might unless they both try and start at once. It might even in that circumstance, but that is when the most stress will be on the generator. I would suggest starting the ac, letting it cool down the place, then starting the fridge. With luck it might not trip the breaker often or at all depending on how much the appliances require to start. It might run them both simultaneously, but you can run one at a time. I would bet they could both run if the starts were staggered.
@roncameron9541
@roncameron9541 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. I am binge watching some of your older videos for hints and tips as I rebuild our motorhome.
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 5 жыл бұрын
I had to watch your video again with your installation of the product that keeps your air conditioner from drawing a huge amount of power on start up. It's an awesome video!
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mitch I appreciate that!
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 5 жыл бұрын
Fate Unbound You are so welcome! I love all of your high quality videos.
@gtheodora
@gtheodora 4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Westinghouse inverters 2x Igen2500 and 1x igen2400 the 2400 runs my Makita 2" drills one at a time as well as my Bosch 2" drill it struggles a bit but works, the 2500's will not run them, the drills pull about 1740 watts and all the 2500's get an overload warning then click goes the breaker I sent 2 back to Westinghouse and these are the ones they sent back so 4 2500's will not exceed 1740 watts, I also have an EU 2200i Companion it runs the drill and lights at the same time I get about 2300 watts before the breaker goes I no longer use the Westinghouse generators since last year I am Honda all the way. Nice video. Also on the propane conversion kit.
@gws8689
@gws8689 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of these two generators. I have the Westinghouse 2200, the smaller version off the one reviewed, and I'm very pleased with it. However, I only purchased it for emergencies and we'll probably not run 25 gallons of gas through in its lifetime.
@danielrichter6855
@danielrichter6855 Жыл бұрын
I have both. I run 2 generators 6 days a week for 8-10 ,hrs a day. Have had to replace more on Honda. Years ago Honda king. No more. No problem for parts for westinghouse or any of the generators. They are not throw away.
@williamquestmagic
@williamquestmagic 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent report David and I agree...You can't beat a Honda...generator or car. My Honda Civic is almost 21 years old and still run's like a dream. bill in Florida
@dbartlett727
@dbartlett727 4 жыл бұрын
best comparison video ive watched yet. excellent content!
@SLCompulsion
@SLCompulsion 4 жыл бұрын
I wish in these comparisons, there would be some actually testing. For example, test the claimed output rather than stating you are dubious. Test the run time, test the db noise level. And the big one for me is test the claimed 'clean AC output' with a scope. I'm concerned about RFI/EMI levels because I am looking for an inverter to power an emergency radio transmitter/receiver. Some inverters claiming to be clean are in fact horrific.
@xzibit8614
@xzibit8614 3 жыл бұрын
My friend lived off grid without power. For 4 years before he got solar (2010 til 2014) he ran his Eu2000i for 4-5 hours a day. During which he’d run appliances he needed / charge his deep cycle battery bank. All he did was follow the maintenance schedule. After 4 years still ran like a champ. He put over 5,000 hours on his Honda eu2000i over 4 years and still ran like a champ. No other small engine / generator would last like that. You get what you pay for with a Honda.
@richardcommins4926
@richardcommins4926 3 жыл бұрын
Still, I would bet that 3 Westinghouse generators ($399 at Sam's Club) would outlast 1 Honda generator ($1,200 list cost).
@xzibit8614
@xzibit8614 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t afford to have one fail on me when I’m running an event or when I’m remote. I need it to be reliable. Same reason I buy good tools and not harbor freight.
@richardcommins4926
@richardcommins4926 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzibit8614 Both generators can run out of gas, run low on oil or even get a fouled spark plug. Many things for reliability do rely on good maintenance. If you are running a nuclear power plant where failure is not an option, you spend as much money as necessary to guarantee no failure. Most people out camping in their trailers don't have that reliability requirement that you are talking about. If that is what you really need, then you will have to just pay the price for that reliability. I have nothing against Honda products except their price. Also I buy almost all my tools at harbor freight. The best tool is the one that I can find or have for the job. I have lost many tools over the years. Also 98% of the time any wrench will loosen that nut. If you need that special tool for a job you do constantly, then you pay the extra money for it. You better keep a good lock and key on those special tools because they will be the first ones stolen.
@ricktaylor1645
@ricktaylor1645 5 жыл бұрын
did you test them or just talk about them?
@jacksummers1736
@jacksummers1736 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you are switching over to the propane kit with your truck being diesel you really don’t want to lug around a can of gas that you don’t use that often. Much safer to carry around propane over gas too. Myself I chose the companion model 1st because of the plug for the RV. I new eventually I would need to supplement it and later added the standard one. BTW compare the cost of Parallel kits. The Honda is a few dollars over the other brands hundreds of dollars.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why we are doing the propane conversion kit, I'm tired of dealing with gasoline that we have no other reason to lug around. You make a good point there for getting the companion model first.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 5 ай бұрын
Laptops are the worst example for harmonic distortion - they use switching power supplies to provide DC power to the laptop. They're some of the most forgiving power supplies out there. Where it matters is with audio equipment, medical equipment, radios (including ham radios), and legacy electronics. If you want to power up a 1980s IBM you need clean electricity. If you're running a laptop made past 2000 it doesn't matter. Switching power supply will handle it.
@scottwilkins
@scottwilkins 4 жыл бұрын
The engine size power output difference is easy to understand. The Honda is depowered with lower compression to 1. make it last longer and 2. keep it quieter. So, yes, the Westinghouse CAN put out more power, very easily. But at the risk of more noise and less longevity in the engine.
@klouism1
@klouism1 5 жыл бұрын
Great job on that comparison. You made some good points. There's pluses and minuses to everything I guess. Looking forward to your next video about the conversion kit.
@Kilkenny1923
@Kilkenny1923 5 жыл бұрын
You said the Westinghouse warranty was only good for 1K hours and Honda’s was unlimited. You already have your answer.
@suppaman12
@suppaman12 3 жыл бұрын
Good point but 1000 hours is over 41 days. Most people are buying these for emergent use. I bought a generator for storm emergencies 4 years ago and I’ve used it for a total of 20 hours... if you’re going to use it and abuse it, I do see how the Honda is the better choice but most of us will only ever use this on emergencies and that’s where the igen is the smarter choice at half the price
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
@@suppaman12 Bingo. For the guy who might use his generator 50 hours in twenty years, the cheaper sets make sense.
@bugatti314159
@bugatti314159 5 жыл бұрын
That similarity between brands screams Made In China! Like you said, there is one factory building the same crap for numerous wholesalers who put their own names on them for resale. You can see this on Amazon in particular among electronic items. I wish I had bought the Honda instead of a Yamaha. They seem much smoother running and more reliable. There is also a noticeable difference in sound level. Hondas are very quiet which is one of the most important features (right after reliability). Three decibels makes more difference than you would think.
@bassproable
@bassproable 5 жыл бұрын
All I can tell you is I work for a large repair facility for a widely known company. In 3 years I've seen one or two Hondas come back, however the Westinghouse, Champions, Generic ive seen dozens.
@paulbaker3144
@paulbaker3144 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Bailey I haven’t even bothered to register my Honda. I doubt I’d need the warranty. Except I think I put fuel stabilizer in it twice by accident. It is running less rough after adding fresh gas. I didn’t know it is overhead cam and will need a valve adjustment. Glad I checked. It only has about 5 hours on it. I sold my Yamaha and got the Honda 2200i for the extra 200 watts.
@bretb8799
@bretb8799 4 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bailey Great info. How does Yamaha (EF2400ISH) compare for repairs?
@davidtotten3042
@davidtotten3042 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had two of the earlier version Honda generators (2000i) for 16 years. They still run like new. Both of mine have been converted to propane early in there lives. The only negative I have is since they don’t put out as much power on propane, I need to use both for A.C. Even with an easy start. One thing for certain is that Honda rates output very conservatively, as my 2000 watt units (1600 running) easily put out about 2000 watts more than that without overloading as long as I’m not above about 5000 feet. Others seem to be rated a little high, and usually can do it near sea level.
@garybeckwith9045
@garybeckwith9045 5 жыл бұрын
Most excellent review and comparison. Hard to find these days. I just went through a typhoon in Japan where we lost power for two days, a first for me in 35 years and close to 75 typhoons. We went with the Westinghouse because it will be rarely used and will serve our needs nicely. We tent camp but I may drag it along and run some electric vice propane camp lights to see how that all works out.
@caseymaples19xx
@caseymaples19xx 2 жыл бұрын
I have ran the crap out of two pulsar sets. Yes they are the same as Westinghouse, generac, ford and pbally a few others. I gave a friend my oldest pulsar inverter the 2000 watt version with 700 hrs of hard use. I also have the newer 2300 watt one and didn’t put an hour meter on it but pbally close to 200 hrs and have had zero issues.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
The Pulsars seem pretty loud. What say you?
@caseymaples19xx
@caseymaples19xx 2 жыл бұрын
@@jshepard152 not really on video they sound much louder. Are they the quietest No but for the price and power they are great.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseymaples19xx Thanks much.
@Step-n-Wolf
@Step-n-Wolf 3 жыл бұрын
Sams Club just had the IGen 2500 for $400 so I ordered one. It isn't the quality of the Honda, but not knowing how much I will need it, I think I will be OK for now.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that sale. Kinda sad that I didn't jump on it.
@reimersorama
@reimersorama 5 жыл бұрын
I would avoid the Westinghouse like the plague. If it breaks, good luck to ya.....I love the Honda simply because of build quality. But Yamaha also makes an excellent inverter generator that has the same build quality IMO
@TheCrankshaftRotator
@TheCrankshaftRotator 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai also.
@williamkunte5361
@williamkunte5361 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrankshaftRotator Also Kubota makes a very marvelous one here in Oxfordshire, UK.
@071946
@071946 4 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft Rotator have a Hyundai 2800 for 2 years and has over 600hrs. On it . Runs like a charm
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamkunte5361 I've not seen a Kubota gen in the US. They do make a fine lawnmower.
@williamkunte5361
@williamkunte5361 2 жыл бұрын
@@jshepard152 If you've lived here long enough you'd have seen it.
@BreatherBoy
@BreatherBoy 5 жыл бұрын
David keeps rockin the videos. Great job!
@georgehindman6642
@georgehindman6642 5 жыл бұрын
You say that the Westinghouse claim on power output is sketchy, and then say later you have owned it for a year and it has worked fine. Have you ever tested the output?
@channell11
@channell11 3 жыл бұрын
Some other channels have done power output testing for generators and it seems that most generators (even the cheap ones) match their rated output.
@dirtroadsailing6418
@dirtroadsailing6418 5 жыл бұрын
I can afford either one and bought the Westinghouse. I have yet to use it while camping so at that rate either one should last me forever.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, sounds like you made the right choice for your rarely used situation.
@AbdulAbulbulAmir
@AbdulAbulbulAmir 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, except for the extra noise and as long as you don't cane it. Remember, the engine looks like toy parts. I heard the the Honda V-tec engine has never failed yet. Peace of mind if you're boon docking mega miles from town
@Rynoyes
@Rynoyes 4 жыл бұрын
Convert it to propane
@yanasitta
@yanasitta 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rynoyes Is it more efficient?
@Rynoyes
@Rynoyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@yanasitta it’s easier to haul around propane, it burns cleaner, and keeps your generator from ever guming up, down side is at higher altitudes it’s not as efficient but at those altitudes you won’t be using it as much
@stateleo4310
@stateleo4310 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good video, when power goes out I use my Honda EU2200I in Eco-mode to run my 10,000 btu Haier portable AC unit & two fans without ever tripping the overload, plus it's great on gas, love my Honda Geny!
@islanddreamers9127
@islanddreamers9127 5 жыл бұрын
Great info! David - I can picture you as the frontman for a company like Honda giving a presentation on camera for advertising purposes. You really have a good camera presence.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thank you, this video wasn't sponsored by anyone though this was just my opinion of the Honda over the Westinghouse
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 4 жыл бұрын
Putting out more power from a smaller motor displacement just means there’s a greater load on the engine and more resistance being created by the magnets or brushes that creat the electrical current. Basically it like towing a big trailer with a 1/2 ton truck vs your turbo diesel- which one works harder?
@batvette
@batvette 4 жыл бұрын
Some truth there but it assumes the smaller engine is inadequate for the load. Imagine a 454 chevy in a vw beetle. Just wasting gas.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 4 жыл бұрын
@@batvette If your goal is to generate the same speed, the 454 works far less to move the beetle than the 1800cc single carb. So the total capacity of work (in this case Watts) is greater and the engine works less to meet the demand, as well as the fact that the structure of the 454 can absorb the demand with less mechanical stress than the 1800cc VW. There are ways of getting more power out of smaller displacements however that doesn't come without downside cost.
@sirbleeds
@sirbleeds 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry. It only means one has a bigger inverter than then other.. Sheesh. These are only generating 12volts of power to the inverter. The inverter determines the output. I am sorry. This guy is obviously very biased. I own 3 igens, and have NEVER has a single problem with any of them.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
You're assuming that working less hard is better. I read an article on Caterpillar's website about problems resulting from under loading their engines. They recommend you run them at heavy load.
@RobertJory10
@RobertJory10 4 жыл бұрын
I did quite a bit of research on generators and agree with this review. However, you may want to consider a Champion 3400 Dual Fuel. It is similar to these units and priced somewhere in-between. The big feature for me is that you can run this on gas or propane. Propane is a cleaner fuel and you don't have to have a smelly gasoline can. You can also run a 1350 AC unit. Maybe Fate Unbound will do a review on that unit also
@Hundert1
@Hundert1 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I wish they all came with dual fuel ability. I just wonder if the Champion is as solid, durable and reliable as the Honda?? I also wish they all came with fuel gauges. The Generac 7127 iq3500 has some very nice features like a fuel gauge. But it's not dual fuel. The other thing is when running the Champion on propane it loses about 10% or more power output due to propane packing less punch than gasoline. If the Champion 3500 is as well made as the Honda and with the high quality of the Honda components, and as quiet I really would consider purchasing the Champion. I already have one Honda eu2000i and may get the Honda eu2200ic which I can link together and have over 4000 watts. Two is always better than one. If one is down, I've got the other because I don't always need 4000 watts. I wonder if the Champion 3500 is as quiet as the Honda eu2200ic? I wouldn't doubt running two Honda eu s makes as much or more noise than one Champion 3500. Thanks
@chefjohn69
@chefjohn69 Жыл бұрын
Propane isn’t as efficact
@realpayne81
@realpayne81 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video… and right on target information. Going with the Honda every time!
@bendeko
@bendeko 3 жыл бұрын
Just the information I was looking for 😃
@30-06
@30-06 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review! I’m set with going for a Honda!
@chrisharriman5245
@chrisharriman5245 5 жыл бұрын
great comparison, didn't know about the propane conversion kit! Thinking that in it self has me leaning to the Honda
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper 5 жыл бұрын
T-H-I-N-K pulling the starter cable. The Honda will reliably start after 2-3 pulls AFTER years/hours & hours of usage. EVERY video I've watched is a review of a brand new generator. Sadly, there are no videos that review generators AFTER 500 hours of usage.
@irishman312
@irishman312 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just now checking out generators and this was an excellent video to get me a basics start thank you
@musicman1508
@musicman1508 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Honda, and the companion. Another thought, search Honda Motorcycle. There are many dealerships everywhere. Each of them has a service department with a mechanic. You will be able to drive to a store/dealership talk to a person face to face and show them what your problem is. The mechanic will then fix your problem, or service, change the oil, or what ever it is. Those dealerships survive on product reputation and their ability to service everything that Honda sells. No I am not affiliated or work for Honda but I have had experience with Honda dealerships and many other Motorcycle shops and they all have one thing in common. Great service. Where is your local Westinghouse Dealership, sales representative or mechanic?
@pugbug288
@pugbug288 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest. The if the Honda breaks you fix it. If the Westinghouse breaks you throw it away. One is made to last, one is made for the trash.
@moegreenbl
@moegreenbl 3 жыл бұрын
Boy you know nothing about these knock off Honda and Yamaha engines. They break and they're simple to fix. I've been working on these for a while you do not throw out the Westinghouse if it breaks. Honda seen it days. You're going to buy a Honda buy a car or a dirt bike forget the generator.
@danielrichter6855
@danielrichter6855 Жыл бұрын
Parts just as easy to get for westinghouse maybe easier. Had westinghouse for as long as my honda generators. If you want a little I mean a little quieter yamaha is the quietest.
@areaone3813
@areaone3813 4 жыл бұрын
Super ! One of the best informative comparisons bud. Thank you
@tracystoutbehunin9303
@tracystoutbehunin9303 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Such a good review!! Very clear and articulate.
@gordonlewandowski77
@gordonlewandowski77 4 жыл бұрын
A more relevant comparison would be the Honda vs the igen 2200. Amazon price for the W iGen 2200 is about $375. Parallel kit is $50, about half the Honda price. I love Honda kit, but 2x iGen 2200 + kit is less than best price for 1 Honda. Other reviewers give Westinghouse support high marks. Cost can also be lower because when you add up total production for generac+Westinghouse+pulsar and any others the cost of the components can be less. I’d love the Honda but the numbers just done pencil out.
@gorillaninja78
@gorillaninja78 4 жыл бұрын
Ya can’t beat Honda Period! I wouldn’t even think of another name if you want reliability 💯 great review ✌🏻🇨🇦
@kdwarner5
@kdwarner5 4 жыл бұрын
Westinghouse builds nuclear generators
@diamond_h0us
@diamond_h0us 3 жыл бұрын
@@kdwarner5 Honda makes motorcycle engines, car engines, lawnmower engines etc. it’s much more relevant experience than nuclear power plants which aren’t anything like these and aren’t mass produced for consumers. So the fact that Westinghouse makes nuclear power plants isn’t really relevant and maybe even undesirable because it means maybe they aren’t as focused on making the best engines to sell to consumers.
@kdwarner5
@kdwarner5 3 жыл бұрын
@@diamond_h0us I work for a Honda for 15 years I know Honda inside and out thank you very much
@burtbennett
@burtbennett 5 жыл бұрын
David, you forgot to mention the reduction in wattage/amperage output when running on propane.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
You're right Burt! Thankfully it is only about a 5% drop in power output with the kit we are installing.
@tekmantoo
@tekmantoo 5 жыл бұрын
David, you make everything look so easy. Great video!
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! Great to hear from you again! How are things down in California?
@tekmantoo
@tekmantoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@FateUnbound Everything's good. Nice and toasty here (100 degrees today). Hope it's cooler up in Washington.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Good to hear you're doing well 😊 it is much cooler here, highs have been I'm the upper 70's but today is cooler at 66. 100 is a bit too toasty for me haha, stay cool!! -David
@tekmantoo
@tekmantoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@FateUnbound You guys enjoy your time up there and have a great time at the meet and greet. Unfortunately I won't be up that way but I'll be thinking of you two and all the amazing people you will meet.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see you again and I know our paths will cross again in the future, but yeah that is a VERY long trip for you so we understand hahaha. Take care Andy 👍
@lesolson2380
@lesolson2380 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and lots of great comments below! One thing I would point out is that Honda parallel capability is NOT just with a Companion model, an EU1000i can parallel with it as well as the EU2000i and the EU3000i. Honda is the way to go and good for you with the Hutch Mountain Kits, I have 4 EU2200i, 4 EU2000i, and 1 EU1000i and they all work well in paralel with each other. Also Great move the the Micro Air Easy Start, I've had one installed for 2 1/2 years and LOVE IT!!!! Cheers, Les
@a2cryss
@a2cryss 4 жыл бұрын
Being able to turn the tank vent off should help the gas last longer before going bad and reduce the amount of moisture it absorbs. Moot point with your LP conversion though.
@onyx8231
@onyx8231 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Texas. Every resident should have the cheaper one if the power grid is going to fail every time it gets too hot or cold because ERCOT would rather price-gouge than maintain it. I was lucky enough to already have the Westinghouse one when the "snowmageddon" happened.
@NomadicInNature
@NomadicInNature 5 жыл бұрын
Another great review! We have the Westinghouse iGen2500.
@spockmcoyissmart961
@spockmcoyissmart961 4 жыл бұрын
Parts. Specifically repair parts availability. A lot of the off brand generators have difficulty getting repair parts not far into their futures. Off brand companies come and go. Honda and others have been around for years. You decide if the sweet taste of low price doesn't sour pretty quickly.
@geebonzo
@geebonzo 5 жыл бұрын
I was at Burro Ck campground in AZ a couple of years back. There was a big notice stating that 4 Honda generators had been stolen the previous week, some chained. The Hondas and the Yamahas have good resale value, so you get something back when you move on, if it hasn't been stolen. Ray at "Love Your RV" made an interesting point about what kind of noise you are getting, a soft purr or more of a rattle. The Westy sounded so much like a lawnmower I could almost smell grass. The Honda in Eco was a pleasant purr.
@adamharris2674
@adamharris2674 4 жыл бұрын
Think I'm gonna get a new Honda 2200 but put an ugly wrap on it with some random Chinese word on the side so it looks cheap! ha!
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamharris2674 Great idea. "VALUGEN"
@My-NaMeS_jEfF
@My-NaMeS_jEfF 5 ай бұрын
I believe it. Imagine if Honda teamed up with Westinghouse, the combination would yield the most efficient high powered unit
@tammyscully879
@tammyscully879 5 жыл бұрын
Prefer my Champion Dual Fuel. Ran 13.5k ac at 8200' in the Rockies on propane ... no issues.
@williamcook1383
@williamcook1383 4 жыл бұрын
I hear mostly good things about Champion, except for the one thing that holds me back which islack of customer service: responsiveness to resolve an issue/ difficult to reach and/ or deal with.
@turdferguson5300
@turdferguson5300 Жыл бұрын
One thing that I considered is it's easy to get the Honda serviced and parts are available. I bought mine at Southern Honda Powersports and if it needs anything I'll get them. For that reason I would consider a Yamaha also.
@mscir
@mscir 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you. I own a Honda EX650 which had a clogged main jet because it didn't have a way to empty the bowl and gas sat in it for a long time.
@acmeopinionfactory8018
@acmeopinionfactory8018 5 жыл бұрын
1000 hours before the warranty runs out? My 2000i had 11000 hours on it.
@paulbaker3144
@paulbaker3144 5 жыл бұрын
acmeopinion factory that’s a lot of expense. Solar could have paid for itself prior to 11000 hours.
@acmeopinionfactory8018
@acmeopinionfactory8018 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulbaker3144 Solar won't run my A/C, at least not with the amount of space I have available for panels. Panels, huge battery bank, large inverter, wind generator, still won't reliably power everything I need powered at the minimal expense of the Honda and some gas and oil. Never spent a nickel on repairs, even ran the original plug until the inverter went belly up, sold the generator for parts, bought a 2200i, a little thirstier, but I can run the A/C and a forty amp battery charger simultaneously.
@bruceeverett5372
@bruceeverett5372 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! That's an awesome testimony --equivalent to 458 days non-stop! Go Honda
@williamkunte5361
@williamkunte5361 4 жыл бұрын
That's just their disclaimer. I think with anything you just gotta maintain it. So Westinghouse should do the same job with more attention. 👍
@ronaldblackston5421
@ronaldblackston5421 5 жыл бұрын
David you do such a great job as a teacher and keeping your explanations clear. Over the past years I have learned so much. Only one down side to this video.... no Jenni
@rockinstone123
@rockinstone123 5 жыл бұрын
Good, I'm not the only one that was hoping Jenni would have a line or two in this episode :)
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ron!! And I'll try to work Jenni into next week's video somehow which is the propane conversion install. Maybe I'll walk her through it and have her do the install hmmm 🤔
@tomschwartz2811
@tomschwartz2811 3 жыл бұрын
I am right on the verge of buying a Honda EU2200i. I went to the dealer and they were out of stock due to the bad weather in NorCal last week. I asked her if converting to propane would void the warranty. Yes it will as Honda does not make a converter kit.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
Home Depot sells them.
@robarksey2070
@robarksey2070 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank you. I wanted the honda but thinking about it now, itll cost more and its easier for someone to run off with.
@knightoftheabyss11
@knightoftheabyss11 4 жыл бұрын
We bought 5 Generac iQ2000's from Costco @ $499.00 each. Only 2 of them worked so we returned all of them and bought Honda's instead. Of the 2 that worked 1 had screws literally falling out of the handle. Generac is junk. Champion, Yamaha or Honda is the way to go.
@dahveed284
@dahveed284 5 жыл бұрын
I really like that "drain the carb" feature of the Honda. That's especially useful if you're running it on propane or seldom use the generator. You don't want the carb to get all clogged because the gas gunked up your carb in the 5 months you didn't use it. Running it dry will prevent that from happening and keep it ready to run when needed. Nice video!
@jimpiper5297
@jimpiper5297 2 жыл бұрын
Two tests that would be v-e-r-y useful: 1. Noise test using a calibrated noise measuring instrument 2. Operation at altitude (6000'). I'm sorry for my going cheap a few years ago with a Champion. Small engine = anemic performance at 6k feet (850W microwave causes it to trip into overload at that altitude). Am glad I found your video asI was considering the Generac. But your description of its engine innards and size has dissuaded me. For quality, ya jus' can't go cheap!
@greenmountain8455
@greenmountain8455 5 жыл бұрын
170 hours on pulsar pg2000is no issues yet. Honda is by far the better brand if u can afford,one.
@paullawrence3714
@paullawrence3714 5 жыл бұрын
Good break down of both units... a lot of information given.
@FateUnbound
@FateUnbound 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul!
@vstabill36
@vstabill36 3 жыл бұрын
Electrical output doesn't have that much to do with engine size. It has to do with the generator or stator or alternator that is run off the engine. I guess it's safe to infer a larger engine can run a larger electrical producer but that's not always the case.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
Good points.
@Abeuss
@Abeuss 3 жыл бұрын
Sam’s has a sale on the Westinghouse right now for around $400. We use a little ryobi on the job site to run sawzalls skilsaws and sump pumps. I think they are all about the same.. except the motor.. really handy little generators for low energy requirements. At 400 bucks it is really tempting; even though I can borrow the company’s anytime. Haha
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
Sam's will occasionally have a really good sale on the Westinghouse. I've seen the better model that goes for about $550 go on sale for $399 recently.
@ROHDESONTHEROAD
@ROHDESONTHEROAD 5 жыл бұрын
Well shoot. I should have waited for this video. Got me a Champion 3300/3500 duel fuel. Weighs over a 100 lbs. Keeps the biceps firm though.
@tammyscully879
@tammyscully879 5 жыл бұрын
Love my Champion Dual Fuel. Always run propane and it's never let me down. I'd buy it again... over a Honda. Also has 30 amp rv outlet which Honda doesnt have.
@HSkyler
@HSkyler 5 жыл бұрын
I was told by the "experts" to use a heavy plywood ramp to roll in and out of your truck. I can't lift 50lbs nevermind 100lbs.
@ROHDESONTHEROAD
@ROHDESONTHEROAD 5 жыл бұрын
@@HSkyler Thank God I got a toy hauler. Has a built-in ramp.
@ROHDESONTHEROAD
@ROHDESONTHEROAD 5 жыл бұрын
@@tammyscully879 I totally agree. I do love my Champion. Really does an awesome job. When we're not boondocking and doing homesteading, it really comes in handy with the power tools.
@izzimichaels2892
@izzimichaels2892 5 жыл бұрын
honda has been making extremely reliable internal combustion engines for a decades. im not aware of westinghouse's history in this area...honda tried and true and (imo) worth the extra cost. (very happy owner of a honda 2000 gen)
@placesonthelist
@placesonthelist 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the Sportsman 2200/1800 Dual fuel generator from Home Depot $499. I plan to only run it on propane so I do not need to worry about stale fuel. I only camp 4 - 6 weeks a year. I bought it just charging my batteries if my 200 watts of solar won't do it. I went with the Sportsman after watching another full-time RV Y-tuber endorse it.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 2 жыл бұрын
How's it holding up?
@placesonthelist
@placesonthelist 2 жыл бұрын
@@jshepard152 I haven't needed to run it. But I'm glad I have only run it on Propane, so no old gas issues.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Good comparison video. Something to be aware is the distances from which the sound level is measured. My old Honda 2000EUi was measured from 7 feet - most of the competition would measure from 21 feet. That makes a huge difference too. My Honda would run my 11,000 BTU A/C using a hard-start capacitor. Once the A/C was running, I could then switch over to ECO mode.
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