Lectric XP 28MPH Folding eBike One Month Update

[@lynchfam100]

We just got our two XP's yesterday! These bikes are awesome! I just wanted to tell you that your reviews were very helpful in our decision to buy the bikes and I know we'll enjoy them for years to come! All the best to you both! Happy Trails!

[@brianwalter687]

My wife and I have had ours since early July also. And while we love them we did do some modifications also. More comfortable seats, added little pieces of tape to the top and bottom of the battery to keep it from rattling inside the frame which really quieted the bike down on bumps. Added mirrors, changed the panniers attachment straps to velcro for faster on and off, and tweaked some of the controller settings so the pedal assist doesn't kick in quite so hard which freaked out my wife. Our wish-list for the bike also includes suspension. And my wife would like a lower pedal-assist setting as even pedal-assist level one is a little too fast for her.

[@xDoomsdayx]

You should do a video and show your modifications. You are the only person I have seen that actually got their bikes in July.

[@bobandjennsadventures9400]

My wife agrees on the pedal-assist being too fast on level one. Its like 15 mph. There must be a way to turn it down

[@brianwalter687]

I did a lot of research and could not find a way to reset PAS 1 to less speed, other then setting the max speed for the bike lower to a speed she liked. But that limited the throttle speed also. Our fix was to turn off pedal assist in the P settings (had to hunt for all those online) and leave the throttle as the only way to use the motor. This way she can peddle on her own and control/increase her speed when she wants while she peddles. To catch up to me or going up hills etc. I agree that maybe a .5 peddle assist or something would be better. But I don't mind our fix. I set my bike to the same setting and we both get a little real peddling in and both use the throttle when needed.

[@bobandjennsadventures9400]

Where did you find the list of PAS? I could only find the couple that they give you.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

@@brianwalter687 That's exactly what I do. I didn't even install the pedal assist until recently (I got mine as an add-on kit) and I ended up going into the display and turning it off. I much prefer pedaling and using whatever amount of throttle I need at the time. I too found PAS 1 to be too fast.

[@muserwood]

I've had my Lectric XP for a couple months now. I had some initial electric problems but the company was very supportive and I never really knew if the problems were the bike's fault or mine. But they stood by their bike and fixed everything asap. Like many, suspension is a minor problem, but saddle suspension kits are dirt cheap, and if you mainly riding on paved or smooth surfaces, it's not that bad at all. Their claim that the tires are puncture resistant is a bit of a stretch, but a simple tire liner solves that problem. And just so you know, when they bike arrives it probably won't do the 28 mph they claim, BUT, simply go into your settings and change PO8 setting from 32 to 45, and you'll get the 28 mph. Sounds more difficult than it is. I added (zip-tied) a plastic dairy carton on top of the FREE saddlebags so I can haul an impressive load. There is a Lectric XP group on Facebook I encourage all to join for obvious reasons. I love my XP. I named it Easy Rider!

[@muserwood]

As far as a "Latch"for holding bike together when it's folded in half, I keep a couple of quality bungee chords in the dairy carton that work great, and are there if I need to bungee a load in the carton.

[@DC-jb7oz]

Lets see. You had to do this and that and the tires aren't what they claim, then it had to be programmed from 32 to 45. In other words they are NOT as advertised. Hopefully they work out the bugs and don't increase the price to much or they just lost the advantage they claimed to have. All companies get greedy and make as much profit as possible at others expense.

[@d.rodrickeamon6133]

@@DC-jb7oz XP bikes are shipped as Class 2 bikes (20 mph and throttle control because not all states and municipalities allow class 3 (28mph w/peddling). They ship with instructions in the user manual on how to change the setting for states that do allow that. There's nothing suspicious or greedy about it. Also, puncture resistant doesn't mean "puncture proof." I've gotten flats with Kevlar-belted tires.

[@hcamper51]

Thank you for both videos! My wife and I received our bikes about a week ago after watching your first video. We really enjoy riding them around and cannot wait to take them with us camping. We enjoy your videos every week.

[@johnathanstheater]

I ordered 2 of these June 26th. They will be delivered tomorrow ! Have watched all of the various XP videos many times. Thanks for the update. Hope they gave you a good price as your review helped my decision to purchase a pair of them. Thanks John

[@sup312m8n02]

how long did you wait for to get shipping info after you ordered them?

[@A_Bunch_of_Savages]

We got ours delivered last week. Jenny giggling the first time that power assist kicked in helped seal the deal. Love em!

[@pooh4519]

Yea it's like trying to milk a pygmy goat, you need a mirror to find the object.

[@Billy_Darley]

more videos of these please. your review video is one of very few that convinced me this is the bike i want.

[@ostrichcruiser70]

Just got ours in this week. They are super cool and so much fun. Thanks guys for the review!

[@FateUnbound]

Heck yeah! We love ours too 👍

[@ziblot1235]

Im flabbergasted. I ordered my bike on JUl 7 and II am still waiting. Does this sound average? I get the idea that people arent waitin a long time. Its going on three months now.

[@ostrichcruiser70]

ziblot123 unfortunately yes I ordered late June and just received them last week. My sisters set was ordered early July like urself and should have shipped by now and received within a week of when they said shipped. So any day Im guessing. I called them today to order a part. Service is super friendly and Levi seems overwhelmed with demand. But these where worth the wait my friend. You should be receiving it soon. You could always try calling them. Good luck if you need help getting it past 20mph you can reach out to me if you can’t find a video on how to unlock it. Safe riding because there fast.

[@tinab6032]

Glad to see you guys got your own since you had to give the others back. Hope the company gave them to you since you help sell them and other KZbinrs got them for free. I ordered one about a month ago and used your promo code for the panniers, so thanks!

[@vnsfxr]

For a smoother ride just lower the air pressure in your tires. We take ours down to 12-15psi when off pavement.

[@cleverestx]

Does taking it to that low of a PSI hurt the durability of the tires a lot? I know it hurts the battery life some, but I was wondering about the durability...

[@vnsfxr]

@@cleverestx I imagine over the course of many years it might? Been lowering psi on bikes, motorcycles & cars and trucks for years based on the ride.

[@momocamara]

@@vnsfxr How's the bike going for ya now did you run into any mechanical or Electrical problems yet?

[@vnsfxr]

@@momocamara - 0 issues besides keeping an eye on all the nuts & bolts. Used blue loc-tite 1st time all good. I did swap for some wider bars to not feel so twitchy. Got a bigger seat but went back to the stocker. We don't do big miles just use the to explore when traveling.

[@Duckyboy6972]

Thanks to your GREAT videos on this bike, we have ordered 2 through your link. Keep up the good work! :)

[@bobandjennsadventures9400]

We have had ours for about a month. Love them. What I don't like is that every where we go they draw a lot of attention. Everyone has to ask about them.

[@ziblot1235]

how long did it take for you to get yours after you ordered?

[@Tygerlady99]

Got mine on August 21st and I do love riding it. So much fun. I did use your promo code and totally agree with all of the points you made.

[@deltas4114]

Thank you for the nice follow up on the Lectric ebike, I did recieve mine back at the beginning of July, love it. Makes me giggle, and that alone made it a great buy for this Oma. The assist up a hill is the best. Thanks, I ordered mine when you did the video in May, so glad I did. 🚲🚲

[@newhampshirejoe5975]

We just got our 2 this week and Love them and we have to say that the customer service is outstanding...my only complaint is the key location is a pain

[@walterlongiii1633]

It is also a pain for the robber!

[@rayshea8879]

I have been really interested in these bikes and once I lose another 25 pounds I will be getting one. my hope is that you will do an update video of any after market kits and/or the seats that you try and what you like or dislike. Thank you for sharing your opinion of the bikes and your likes and dislikes and if your still like them after a couple more months of use. thank you again for a really good video I enjoy watching them all.

[@pooh4519]

I added a Satori Animaris suspension seat post and a Cloud 9 wide seat - It increases the minimum seat height but is ok for me (29" inside leg). The original seat post is 31.8mm diameter so I needed a stem sleeve for the 27.5mm Satori post. The clearance between the 27.5 and 31.8 tubes allowed me to make an anti-theft gadget for the seat - the seat can be pulled up but can not be removed. Other things included realigning the crooked carrier, tighten pedals, adjust rear brake at the cable end. I also made a fix to move the kickstand forward so it doesn't stick out so much when it is folded (it would hit the wheel nut before). I am now working on a bracket to hold a long U-lock (OnGuard). Seeing as I have not ridden a bike for 50 years it's going to be quite the experience ! (which is what the XP stands for).

[@CharlieArehart1]

Thx for the details, esp on suspension seat.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

I also have a Satori Animaris seatpost on my converted Schwinn Streamliner 2 ebike. Highly recommended.

[@dobeontheroad4736]

Thanks so much for the update on these bikes. As I will be traveling in a van I have been looking for an e-bike that is in my price range. I have been keeping up on all of the reviews from people who had the prototypes but have not seen any updates recently. So thanks so much again!!! They look great and chances are they will be my choice!!

[@cathybarber2624]

Just bought 2 of these and can’t wait to try them out! Thanks for the update!

[@jeffreylines1535]

I didn't like the riding position or the range of the bike but the beauty is there is a bike for everyone so while it doesn't work for me it will certainly work for someone else! In regards to the lack of suspension experiment with tire pressure, my fat tire bike I can take the tires down to 8 psi and it really absorbs the rough terrain, not sure with your smaller diameter wheels but I am guessing you can certainly lower the pressure a fair amount and find a softer ride.

[@Kevin-oz9fw]

These are fine for the price but I have had a number of E-bikes from $4K Pedigo to Radrover. The Radrover folding bike is the bike I turn to most. It has your 3rd complaint which is front shocks and for your seat comfort I suggest the SR Suntour SP12 NCX Seatpost spring is like having a rear shock and will save your bum. It should work on your bike and others. Radrover's are right there in Seattle (Ballard) and carries the seat spring. Give them a visit. No I am not affiliated.

[@CharlieArehart1]

Thanks for the suggestion of a seat-based spring, Kevin. I hope someone with the bike will confirm if it works. The lack of suspension is my only holdup on these, as I'd plan to ride mostly off-road on rural/farm property.

[@stever7258]

You can hold the bikes in folded position with double sided velcro strapping. when the bike is in riding position, just wrap the strapping around the center of the handle bars.

[@JipseeGirl]

I just got my "shipping label printed" email last night. I ordered a set just like yours... one white, and one black on August 2nd and they are going to ship in the next few days! . (about 7 weeks) Can't wait to get them!!

[@landsail]

Rox Straps are elastic straps with nylon adjustable sections and loops and hooks that can adjust from 18 in to 60 in. Amazon, about $23.

[@briangreen9677]

A great ride for those bikes is on I-90, at Hyak. There's the Snoqualmie Tunnel you can ride through if you head west, and a bunch of smaller tunnels along the lake if you head east. It's an awesome day out on railroad grade, and the lake is right there if you choose to jump in. If you're heading to the Olympic Peninsula again this year, be sure to stop at the east end of Lake Crescent. They just redid the trail on the north side of the lake (also railroad grade) and there are lots of little trails down to the water that let you cool off and see the amazing views. If you're looking to get those tires on some sand, I'd recommend Kalaloch (where you stood under that gravity tree), or the busier Ocean City or Ocean Shores. Kalaloch is still the best though, IMHO. If you hit it just right during a low tide, Ruby Beach (right as HWY 101 kisses the Pacific heading south) is an amazing beach ride if you head south. I doubt you'd want to take your bikes through the creek to head north (which also has amazing views of ocean rock formations).

[@FateUnbound]

Wow thanks for all the destination information Brian! I saved this comment to my phone for later use 😉

[@ekummel]

glad to see you didn't forget your bike lock this time!

[@davidh5009]

I've been waiting for your follow-up review of the bikes. From your review, it looks like Lectric culled some nice wanna-haves like front/rear suspension, folded-latch in favor of retaining the must-haves like good design, quality build, battery/motor size, big'ol tires, etc. to keep the price down. Looking forward to the next update that covers how they perform off road on dirt, sand, gravel, etc. :-)

[@michaelszabo6410]

Got ours about a week ago. Took them camping this weekend. We really enjoy riding them. Thanks for the promo code and the review. Would not have ordered them had I not seen them on your KZbin site.

[@bigrob9301]

@@michaelszabo6410 ordered mine yesterday...how long did take for delivery?

[@nortonnewmann3711]

Great informative video guys! I hope that as these bikes become more mainstream and mass produced, the no-frills models will drop closer to around a $600 price point. I realize these are basically hand built, and the price reflects that. $1000 is a little pricey for a basic bike... $600 and I'm sold! Then upcharge the upscale models with bells & whistles.

[@Ray_Entertainment]

Sorry you are not going to find one at that price. Your best bet is to try to find someone selling there personal one, which still is going to be hard to find at $600.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

They do upcharge the upscale models - they go for up to $2000 or more :)

[@ridingtheroad185]

I just ordered my bike and the code is still good for the bag! Thank YOU!!

[@bruceh3786]

Seeing as I have a black one coming sometime in September, I appreciate the follow up. It's great you still like them! Since I plan to use it primarily as an urban bike, the lack of suspension does not bother me. That does keep the weight down. Could you state how much air pressure you carry in the tires? As an FYI, they are looking into offering a suspension seat post. I hope you continue to do updates. Info on how you secure and maintain them and how you store them when camped and travelling would be helpful.

[@xDoomsdayx]

Ha, I asked about securing them as well. Like you, I have mine supposedly coming early September as well. Can't wait.

[@bruceh3786]

@@xDoomsdayx Sounds good. I am not sure if I am in the first or second September delivery. I did a demo ride at their place of business a few weeks ago on a prototype. It is amazingly quick. I knew within that first second of it taking off that I wanted one! I elected to pick it up rather than risk shipment. They should be a blast to ride.

[@xDoomsdayx]

@@bruceh3786 I only ordered mine a few weeks ago as well. When I ordered it, it still showed early September shipping. However, I see the august folks talking that seems they weren't getting theirs till the end of August, so who knows where I am in that list lol. I'm such an impatient person. Amazon prime has absolutely ruined me for anything like this lol.

[@shanvenable6428]

Take a look at a suspension seat post to add some comfort. The Cane Creek Thudbuster LT has plenty of travel, won’t add much weight and is well built. We have a pair of XPs on order that will arrive in September and I plan to make that my first modification. Keep up the informative well done videos!

[@pooh4519]

Beware of the height it adds to the seat.

[@CharlieArehart1]

@@pooh4519 is that a known/serious issue or are you just helpfully speculating?

[@pooh4519]

@@CharlieArehart1 Seat posts like the Thudbuster and Animaris are a torsion type design, so the mechanism is outside the seat post. Spring type designs have the mechanism mostly inside the seat post so do not add as much height. My Animaris adds 4" in height, so even at it's lowest position anyone with an inside leg of less than 29" will not reach the pedals correctly. It's a trade off because the spring type have known problems like sticking and the pogo stick effect.

[@NoProGoPronto]

Thanks for the honest review. I'm looking forward to getting mine. Hopefully it will be shipping out the 1st or 2nd week of September. I agree about no suspension, but you can get an after market seat with suspension. Happy and safe riding everyone :-)

[@dawnshields4134]

love the fenders, does the battery detach? How do you charge?

[@edandjas]

Thank you for the video! I’ve ordered and getting them end of September! What brand/type of bike locks do you use? Any recommendations? Thanks!

[@EmAreDayviss]

edandjas look up “best bike locks” on KZbin and watch a few videos comparing locks. You’ll find there are dozens of great videos and about 3-4 locks you’ll want to consider,

[@rachelw3290]

The clipping along with the music was a nice touch 😄 satisfying af

[@rafaelduque7160]

Hello! I have a e-scooter and I ride it every time I can, I solve the suspension hard ride by take out some air of the tires, a little can make a big difference an make the ride smoothly, bye!!!

[@Mtdreamin327]

Just received my LECTRIC bike and cannot wait to give it a try. I Thank you for the promo code. I used it and got the bags free to go with the bike. VERY NICE❣

[@cynthiawallin2092]

Thanks for sharing that rubber sealant stuff. I bought a can and it works amazing.

[@gthomas15229]

Very nice review. Most electric bicycle reviews spend too much time on the bike parts. You actually rode them and showed a typical trip to the store. I want to know how the bike rides and handles rather than how it is built. Great practical advice on actually using them.

[@FateUnbound]

Thanks Greg, we appreciate that!

[@dondavis1203]

Ordered two of these bikes after your first video review...and we received the free bags after informing them we learned about the bikes on your KZbin channel. We are just now trying them out and so far all good. We tow a small 13’ tear drop trailer and are very happy the bikes fit the back of our 4 door Rubicon Jeep.

[@debinvenice]

Ordered mine a couple of weeks ago and used your promo code. I expect delivery by the end of September. Thanks!

[@logangregg9571]

debinvenice Unfortunately you won’t be getting your bike till the end of October id say. I ordered mine mid July and it’s looking like mid/end of September for me.

[@debinvenice]

They emailed me stating end of September. Could that still be wrong?

[@logangregg9571]

debinvenice they are behind on their delivery dates. I was supposed to get mine early this month and they said it will be end of this month after I recently emailed them. I wouldn’t expect your bike to end of October at earliest.

[@debinvenice]

@@logangregg9571 Thanks! :-(

[@debinvenice]

@@logangregg9571 A little update, the bike arrived today (9/30/19). :-) I did have to give them a little email push to remind them that I was supposed to have an early September delivery. Less than 5 mins after I sent the email, I recieved a tracking number.

[@dartht.3736]

Hey, just ordered my Ebike from Lectric... Been thinking about one and your video sealed the deal. Now i just need to talk my wife into running to the store in it. :)

[@BlazingLaser]

The company lent Lectric Bikes to a lot of RVers on KZbin and I've seen several reviews . They all love them of course. But something weird that I notice in every review is that the seat posts are always way down, so your legs never straighten out. Everyone rides these bikes with their knees up in the air, like the bike was way too small for them. If I did that on my bike I'd have big trouble with my knees. Can you raise the seat so that a 6 foot person straightens out his legs when pedaling? Otherwise, I love your stuff. Keep up the good work!

[@bruceh3786]

Yes you can raise the seat. The reason the You Tuber have the low seat position is because they are not cyclists and so feel more stable with the lower seat position.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

Yes you can. I'm tall too, and I went and test rode an XP to see how it fit. You can also adjust the seat angle, which is very important to getting just the right fit.

[@Swinghi]

So I used your code for the paniers. Can't wait for mine to come. You guys are doing great.

[@vincebaker3384]

I understand the desire to keep costs down but since these bikes seem to be made to be written in the city I think as a good safety feature turn signals should be a must-have.

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

You can purchase turn signals at bike shops

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

@@10beers53 and they're not that expensive. Some are Bluetooth and have no wires.

[@ostrichcruiser70]

Lumos bike helmets has cool integrated led turn signals I recommend and easier to see from vehicle traffic.

[@ex0stasis72]

OMG, what?! That grocery store is the closest one to where I live right now! I must live within 15 minutes from you. I was just watching random Lectric XP videos on KZbin. I was just shocked to see those familiar streets leading up to the grocery store parking lot and the finally seeing it.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Hi, good follow up video. Still waiting on mine to arrive; my XP has been ready for delivery for a while - red tape with Canada Customs. Not Lectric's issue and out of their control. Worst case, I'll pick it up in Phoenix later this year. I was planning on using wide elastic straps w velcro to keep the ebike in the folded position. As for off-road or heavy duty dirt road riding, just reduce the air pressure in the tires and it'll be far more comfortable. Maybe in the next follow up, do a comparison between air pressure reduction vs comfort vs distance reduction. The folded ebike design is appealing to me b/c it's safe from the elements, inside my RV, and better security. I'd recommend to always put some sort of lock between the rear wheel and frame - that's the most expensive item. Cheers, Steve

[@bobarnall3913]

The one thing that I don't like is the position of the key. I needs to be on top or the side in my opinion. Good video

[@erikkison]

I got this bike and it rides great. I rode it in NYC,but too many people were looking at it, asking questions and I got a lot of unwanted attention.

[@schnipsy]

Same here in Estero Florida...Crazy

[@erikkison]

schnipsy C Ya, “how much this” “I give you 500”

[@xDoomsdayx]

Ok, I have mainly been interested in locking the bike up when going somewhere. When you locked up your bike with the U lock, I was a bit disappointed. Is it not possible to lock the rear wheel and frame with the U lock? It doesn't look like it from what I could see. That concerns me a little in that cable locks are really only effective against those that are only thinking about stealing your bike but don't have any tools. A real thief would have those cables cut in 10 seconds. You should also at least get some small chains or cables for your seat and lock it to the frame. it appears to have a quick release on it, people will steal that seat just because it's so easy to get off with no tools required. Just FYI, enjoyed the video. Would love to see more adventures on the bikes.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

@Darren Cole, u-locks are quick and simple to open without a key … if you know how; and, a real thief would know the technique. I use 3 different styles of locks on my expensive bikes, from a ulock to a thick cable lock to a thick (but heavy) hardened steel chain link w matching lock. Only do this when I would not be near the bike and it's outside

[@xDoomsdayx]

@@ScubaSteveCanada it also depends on the type of U lock you get, not all U locks can be opened by hitting it. I know there is no single lock that will protect your bike, its why it has always been recommended to use 3 ways of locking your bike. All your doing is making your bike seem more trouble than its worth and hope they choose an easier target.

[@lorraineanderson149]

Thanks, Love all your videos. Been wanting a Lectric since I saw your Video last May. I just ordered my bike and used the PROMO Code. I plan on letting air out of the tires when riding off road to reduce that bumpy washboard feeling. We let air out of the tires when we off road in the 4X4. Makes a big difference.

[@wcarlhepker4806]

I know that it was several years ago, but the electric bikes then did not survive if it started to rain while the rider was out trying to get home. I hope these guys have solved that problem. Do the instructions say anything about that, or have your had any experience with riding them in the rain?

[@xDoomsdayx]

Most newer ebikes have made them much more weather resistant. The controller and battery is actually inside the top frame on this bike, doubt you have to worry at all about water getting in there.

[@jumblesticks]

I'm getting a suspension seat post for mine to help soften the ride. Amazon has way many to choose from.

[@sherilinn6742]

Dennis Woolverton can you post a link to the suspension post? Thank you!

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

Suspension post by Zoom. Amazon

[@jumblesticks]

My bike comes tomorrow so I'll figure which one then.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

I bought a Satori Animaris seatpost and it works great. It compares to the more $$ Suntour and Thudbuster posts but is much less $$, and better than the cheaper spring posts.

[@NomadicInNature]

Wow I love how the bikes can fold. Thanks for the update. 💖 👍 👍

[@Ray_Entertainment]

I also have a fat tire folding E-bike. Do you find yourself always getting stopped with people asking about your bikes?

[@farmerbob2306]

We do all the time

[@FateUnbound]

Yes all the time. People are SO CURIOUS about them hahaha

[@schnipsy]

we went to coconut point Estero, florida today, and it was crazy. people taking pictures etc. Right by the Trek store for bikes,lol..Had breakfast at First Watch. Best breakfast ever down here. Then we tooled around Estero Park and Koreshan Park, Estero, Florida and it was amazing. 4 hr trip, mine got down to 2 bars on battery. Been windy as hell also, and they just push right through it. Love these bikes

[@lannyscycle]

best seat i have found i have this on my xp lectric bike ( Schwinn Foam Comfort Breeze, Extra Wide Bicycle Seat ) you can find them at target or online

[@oistein74]

Great review guys. I'm getting one fully suspended.

[@trustinwwjd1997]

Thanks for fantastic review VID as usual,,, What do your all use to secure the eBkes when shopping, what kind of lock would be considered reliable in common sense ? Safe, happy & blessed travel,biking,hiking on your all journey,,,

[@bFlattheOriginal]

I bought a Sigtuna 16mm U lock with a steel cable that I loop around both wheels and then into the lock. It was priced well in comparison to the Kryptonite locks and it's still there after 2.5 years. So is my bike :) As with everything these days, there are a confusing amount of choices out there. I also only have to lock the bike up for short times shopping, etc. If I had to lock it up all day, I might invest in more/better locks.

[@chuckbyrne7225]

Re: the no clasp when folded issue - I recently saw a KZbin video where the guy put his folded XP into a Commander 64 Gallon rolling tote (Sold at Lowes) and still had room for a few other accessories in there. Rolled it out to his truck and slid the thing into the back. He said it would also fit in the 40 gallon, but tight fit.Seems like a good way to keep from scratching the paint or damaging the inside of an SUV for example. I may try this.

[@FateUnbound]

Great idea Chuck! We may just do that 👍

[@michaelmiller8140]

What is your system for charging these bikes while you are off the grid and boondocking? I see you all have a sweet solar setup, are you using an inverter, inverter generator, or some 12v DC connection to charge them?

[@FateUnbound]

I answered this on your last comment on the first video we made on the bikes.

[@SoulRedeemer77]

Can you mention about riding on rainy days? Do you have to cover lcd or keep pedaling?

[@FateUnbound]

The entire bike is completely waterproof so you are safe to ride in the rain with the motor 👍 I would recommend covering the LCD screen with something like a small ziploc and rubber band though just to be sure.

[@ELEVOPR]

Glad I watched the video till the end, When you were on your knees next to the bike, it really showed how big and beefy the bike is. I am so glad I never funded the Mate X Bike, It has been such a horror story for owners of Mate X. I just ordered mine a few minutes ago, hope they can deliver on time, with all this Coronavirus going on :o/ Be Safe everyone during these hard times. Thanks for the videos and tips :o)

[@Weld0id]

Try carrying a frame pump on you so you can adjust your tire pressure. Fat tires can be dropped very low which makes them ride rough terrain much smoother, as well as increasing grip on snow, mud and sand. Once I receive mine, I will look into installing a suspension fork if possible. The folding handlebar assembly might not accommodate a traditional fork but I have yet to determine this. Thanks for the review and keep up the good content!

[@bFlattheOriginal]

Lots of other fat tire folding bikes come with front suspension forks, so they're out there. I have seen some on Aliexpress when I was searching for something else. Haven't "Ducked" it for any US suppliers. (I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine, they don't track you like Google does). Frankly, if a suspension fork is that high up on your list, I would have bought one that had it. Green Bike USA has a GB1 fat tire bike for $1249 with front suspension and a few other bells & whistles and it comes in 6 different colors.

[@Weld0id]

bFlattheOriginal thanks for the info. I’ll check it out. I’m looking at aftermarket forks rather than paying an extra 3-4 hundred. Plus I am a wrench head and love nothing more than figuring it all out. Cheers!

[@bFlattheOriginal]

@@Weld0id Please reply back here when you finish the upgrade, I'm sure many would like to know the details.

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

After watching Nomadic Fanatic abuse his, I ordered two. Then discovered you two... Nomadic Fanatic has since bought a motorcycle, so I don't think he's gonna do much with his... Will keep watching you talk about your Lectrics!

[@nbragtop]

Excellent fun video, thanks!

[@tilu3303]

They have the price marked back down to $899 for pre-orders. Do you happen to know if the throttle can readily be disabled and the max speed kept at 20 mph so it can be used as a Class 1 e-bike on bike/pedestrian pathways?

[@duanebuck193]

David and Roe - you've had the bikes for a year + now - would you consider doing an update on your thoughts on them? Thanks!!

[@FateUnbound]

Yep! We have a video on them coming out in a week and a half 👍 -Roe

[@wtfbfe]

I was like...Damn these roads look familiar! I live in Lake Forest Park, Wa and go to that QFC all the time lol. Just ordered a couple of these for the wife and myself. cheers!

[@sharsanyi]

Great review! Thanks for the promo code!!!!

[@richardgallagher650]

We have a couple of e-bikes. Have you figured out how to charge them while boondocking? So far we have used the campground plugs in the bathroom. lol It will be interesting to see when you come up with a solution to charging your bikes with the 120v chargers.

[@PabloIvo111]

Hi guys, I am really interested by these bikes with the bag! Thanks for the info. I'll be a boondocker next year. I follow you and learn a lot with your videos. See you soon! À bientôt! Ha ha ha! ¡Hasta pronto! From Québec, Canada.

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

2 questions: 1. how long will the battery last 2. what is the cost of a replacement battery

[@FateUnbound]

The battery should last the life of the bike. And spare batteries cost $300

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

is that info from lectric? cause i dont see a battery lasting the lifetime of the bike.

[@FateUnbound]

I would give them a call, they'll have better technical information than I can provide

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

thank you, i went on their site and sent a message with that inquiry

[@bFlattheOriginal]

LG batteries are generally good for @ 800 cycles before they drop to @ 70% of their capacity. A cycle is full charge to full discharge. Try not to run the battery completely down. The pack's BMS _should_ cut off with @ 5% charge remaining, but it's best not to run them down much below 20% charge. If you can keep them between 80%-20%, you'll get longer life out of them. Also, if you want to have a full charge when you start off on a ride, it's better to wait til the day you're riding to charge the last 20% or so to get to a full charge. It's not good to charge a battery to 100% and leave it sitting around for several days. If you're not going to ride for a few months, best to leave @ a 50% charge on the battery, and then give it a half hour charge every month or so. So, how long will your battery last? How many cycles per week will you put on it? If you only do 1-2 charge cycles/week, your battery will last longer than if you put 5-10/week on it. If you leave your battery outside in the sun every day, it won't last as long as if you don't. Winter cold really saps the heck out of batteries too, so it's better to keep them warm before you set out to ride when it's cold outside. The XP comes with quality batteries, but there is no one answer for how long yours will last.

[@dawnshields4134]

bought some 3 in 1, thanks for the review!!

[@ryfo]

Mine should be here soon! Excited. Glad you're enjoying them. But 50 combined miles in a month!!?!?!? That's all??

[@FateUnbound]

We don't commute to work since our KZbin channel is our job. So the only place we have to ride to is the grocery store or other random errands. Everything is super close within a couple miles. So yep, 50 miles in a month. If you can commute to work on one of these then you'll really start to see the payoff.

[@ryfo]

@@FateUnbound I didn't mean to be critical of your mileage - any use of non-petroleum transportation saves money @ the IRS allowance of ~$0.50/mile - just surprised it's not higher! A few 10+ mile joyrides mixed with grocery commutes would be more than 50 miles for me alone. Maybe things are farther away here? Or I like to grocery shop too often? Haha! I plan to ride my Lectric XP at least 100 miles a month for commutes to various adult rec sports leagues, general fun, and grocery shopping. I don't have a commute for work either.

[@FateUnbound]

@@ryfo Don't worry I didn't take it critically. We are home bodies so if we don't have a reason to leave then we stay home hahaha. That results in few trips overall, but if we can take the bikes instead of an ICE vehicle then heck yeah money saved! Enjoy 😁👍

[@leroyjarvis5617]

My thought as well. I feel like I'd ride the wheels off. I do 50 miles in a day on my zuma 50. Glad for the review tho as I'm considering an electric bike

[@bFlattheOriginal]

@@FateUnbound My situation is much like yours and I only put about 50 miles/month on my bike too. My payoff still came from ditching my car. The money I've saved in insurance, tags, gas, and repairs on my aging vehicle has paid for my bike and all the accessories I've bought for it over the last couple of years.

[@JimFariello]

Got my bike a week ago. Delivery was all screwed up as the dates kept changing. I got the bike, rode it two blocks, it died, E0009. The company said I had a bad controlled. They said they would send one right out, still waiting for it......

[@JimFariello]

Called company Friday, should be delivered that date or no later than Saturday. Well it is now Sunday, was going to ride the bike in a Colorado mountains town, this out and Monday being a holiday, I MIGHT get the control part on Tuesday. Ebike, THINK CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE FUTURE. That part should have gone overnight delivery. You guys screwed up and if someone asked me about CS, I might not be nice. I AM NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR DEALING WITH PROBLEMS.

[@dannygnazzo3818]

What’s a good tire psi level to keep the tires at for mostly flat ground urban street riding ??

[@leskay2906]

Very good job on the video. Need to show some trail footage next.

[@jacobevans8365]

Suspension add Cost and Weight, I'm glad they are not equipped with such.

[@georgewashington8652]

You could also try a suspension seat or seat post.

[@tomthomas334]

me too

[@DivergentDroid]

Mine isn't folding but I have a 1000 watt front hub motor using 48 volts I and get up to 34 mph.. on a Bike.. Yeah.. Scary Fast. Love it. (no peddling) My batteries are only 20 Ah so it's range isn't that good about 20 miles round trip. I ride on a bike trail that runs parallel to the min road that takes me down to the lake and my fishing spot. People in cars often meet me at the end and ask me how I was going faster on a bike than they could go in their car! LOL

[@xDoomsdayx]

Be careful with that. depending on the state, they could take that bike from you. Its like riding a 150cc scooter and saying its a 50cc scooter. Most states have a 750 watt max for the motor, some much lower than that. I think its funny, I saw a dutch article today talking about super-fast e-bikes then mentioning the 750 watt motor and top speed of 28mph and they are calling them super fast bikes lol.

[@DivergentDroid]

@@xDoomsdayx In my state, they can only give me a ticket if I'm riding faster than 20 mph on a public street that's also used by cars. but a sidewalk is good. ( and I have to ride on the side of the street next to the curb, not down the middle of the street/lane as they do in the video.. I don't know how they are getting away with That. I didn't think you could actually be In the flow of traffic in any state. )

[@xDoomsdayx]

@@DivergentDroid Oh yeah, In most states, bikes and cars share the road, cars don't like it but they share anyway. You only need to move over and let traffic pass if its safe for you to move over to the side. For instance, if you are on a street that is lined with cars, you don't have to get out of the middle of the road because of the door zone danger but at first chance, you are supposed to let faster traffic by. Still, Most drivers don't like bikes on the road so it's not advisable to ride in the middle of the lane, Bunch of crazies out there, never know when that steel cage on wheels is going to try and run you over.

[@banredassaultsuvs361]

What bike/motor?

[@mariochavez8363]

Greeting from Yakima wa. Ordered mine expected mid September. Super excited !!! O yes thanks for the free bag 🙂

[@FateUnbound]

Awesome! I hope you love them as much as we do!

[@jenniferstephenson]

You can swap to a suspension seat post which is a cheap fix. Ask around on somewhere like bikeforums.net and see if anyone knows of a front fork with suspension that would fit the fat tire and smaller tire size. It might be a harder thing to find but if there is one out there any bike shop can swap it for you.

[@beachcruza7817]

great review! i will be using your promo code in couple weeks from now when i order. thank you very much

[@Fireboat52]

You can get a seat post that has built in suspension. One thing I noticed is that the bikes appear to be powered without pedaling. If that is the case, I don't think they are legal on motorized vehicle restricted trails. They are limited to pedal assist only. I don't know how strictly that is enforced but caveat emptor.

[@rnordquest]

Just keep pedaling and I'll bet you're ok. I'd also not power it near anyone when possible just to reduce the odds of having a problem. I bet the issue is people just going too fast on them.

[@garryhammond3117]

Great informative video, you guys!

[@MOLEROJUANLUIS]

Hi, Can you share the dimensions of pannier bags? Thank you

[@arelkay730]

Thanks.....but.....really would like to know the actual range from your experience.

[@amax1229]

One of your cons was that there's no suspension. Would it help (off road, etc.) to lower the tire pressures?

[@brentbrewer5296]

That was going to be my advice as well.

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

Suspension post by Zoom

[@ostrichcruiser70]

Just got mine in this week. Letting air out helps a little bit. But I’m definitely ordering a seat post suspension for ours and gel seat covers, drink holders and and upgraded bell. But overall well worth it and so easy to get around.

[@pangeria12]

@@ostrichcruiser70 yes a cup holder is a must for me lol.

[@rojerww]

Locks bike with good quality locks - 👍 👍 Mine - soon to arrive - used your code for the saddle bags 💼- thank you (I tried KevCentral first, didn’t work, probably my fault - found your site). Thanks for the follow up. Lower air pressure a few pounds at a time to find the cushion you need - lots of air volume remains. Trade offs, warmer tires and lowers range by some percentage. Also, could try a shock-absorbing seat post ~ $40. Probably will need shims for fitment.

[@wolffortenberry33]

Would these be able to go on a Jack It Bike Mount? Or are they too heavy?

[@akassebaum]

Got my bike today! Boy is it fast! I didn't ride it long because it was getting dark and the wind was blowing hard!! I don't see the panieres in the box!

[@alexzanderarmstrong]

Im super interested for another review after you get back to regular camping...pls

[@thomasmartindale3654]

Cloud 9 bike seats are great available at Wal-Mart and other stores

[@pooh4519]

The best wide C9 seat is $25 on you know where.

[@volkanyesilkaya2627]

Hi have been watching many videos about this bike and its great and all but would like to know something very important does the battery get damaged when its exposed to cold weather because i plan to use this bike for uber eats someone please reply need to find out

[@CarsenZzz]

Are you able to easily remove the LCD screen when locking your bike up in a public place?

[@bFlattheOriginal]

No. I took a piece of cardboard, cut it to make a slide on cover for the display, and painted it black. Keeps the sun off the display when I have to park it in the sun and makes it much less noticeable to the casual observer. Only a few manufacturers make removable LCD displays, and you won't be buying those bikes for anywhere near $999.

[@CarsenZzz]

bFlattheOriginal Thank you for the response! :)

[@bruceh3786]

@@bFlattheOriginal Good idea on the cover.

[@danyancey]

So I have a driver's license however I have epilepsy and have lost my license due to driving accidents and have decided that I don't want to drive anymore and risk other people's lives. What I'm getting down to is I live in the extreme northeast corner of Pennsylvania and anyone that lives here knows the weather sucks. I'm fine with riding in snow and rain. I've worked in these elements my whole life but I'm wondering if these bikes could survive these elements. My job is only 2 miles from home so I won't be driving them super far or anything in the elements. But I'm a little worried about a 1k bike capping out riding a few times in the rain or snow and capping out. I know you guys live off these bikes but just would like some input. Thanks in advance for any replies!

[@Maltmeister1]

Great informative video guys.We also have E-bikes that are very similar to yours.But ours have full suspension and have 750w motors.$3500 each for ours but the price point on ur bikes is excellent..Very cool bikes..

[@georgefenrich4119]

I just got my E-bike today! I put 2 miles on it (after the 4 hours of charge time). It didn't go over 24.5 mph...? I did the mode (P15) and was pedaling fast on flat ground?

[@marciatesch3951]

Do you still like the XPs? Thinking about getting 2 for RVing.

[@FateUnbound]

We love them! We're actually about to make another video with us exploring on them. We highly recommend them. -David

[@tamiandbarrywatson3806]

thanks for the bags, ordering 2 bikes

[@mcampbell10777]

Do you use tire slime to prevent punctures. I heard the tyres were not very puncture resistant.

[@FateUnbound]

We haven't had any issues with tire punctures, and no we haven't used slime.

[@mcampbell10777]

@@FateUnbound Thanks for that. I got a lectric copy bike from the same factory looks the same with the same tyres and battery. 500w motor. Not a lectric bike but its what I base opionions on as its exactly the same without the decals.

[@davidcolinstillman5585]

OFF ROAD WOULDN'T YOU LET SOME AIR OUT OF THE TIRES LIKE YOU WOULD ON YOUR OFF ROAD VEHICLE / 4×4 / ? DOES THE ORIGINAL SEAT COME OFF JUST LIKE OTHER BICYCLES ? SINCE IT'S CHEAPER THAN MOST OTHER ELECTRIC BICYCLES ? LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF FUN ! BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BE WITH YOU BOTH ALWAYS ! ENJOYED !