Father Richard Rohr "Falling Upward"

[@detodounpoco37]

Father Richard truly gets the forgotten mysticism of Christian spiritual life

[@UTEXTRACK]

Richard Rohr is my spiritual mentor. Authentic wisdom.

[@naturogeksistens536]

Father Richard's and CAC's teachings are exactly what is needed to reform the church, to create interreligious dialogue and heal the world. His teachings are truly catholic (καθολικός katholikos 'universal') and recognizable by every open human heart! We may be witness to, and participants in, a new movement of love with the capacity to learn from the past, live in the now and sow seeds for at bright tomorrow! Spread the good news! :-)

[@tinashegundidza2931]

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[@billytekahika9843]

Yet Jesus said: Be ye separate, touch not the unclean thing, I am the way, the truth and the life - no-one comes to the Father but by me, and God’s end time people keep His commandments, how can two walk together unless they agree? No - I do not accept ecumenism at the expense of truth. This unbiblical Jesuit teaching of mysticism, contemplative prayer and spiritual exercises are pure evil. Richard and all these here are propagating Babylonian evil. May the Lord have mercy on them and may they repent from their sins and come to the light. 😢🙏 I truly cannot believe the evil of this material. 😢

[@soilofk]

As an ex-catholic disappointed with all the hypocrisy, violence, manipulation and abuse from the Catholic Church... Fr. Rohr is a beacon of light! Finally someone who is intelligent, inclusive, loving and logic. Amen!

[@peteschmit5407]

Such a beacon of lightt... We need yourr words.. Thank you Fr.!

[@peteschmit5407]

Impulse controll.. loss of... We need your wisdom!

[@peteschmit5407]

Truth has Always been .. from the Holy Spirit...

[@koogeranamanda5019]

My mentor for the last 35 years of life

[@michaelbennett1976]

Thank you Fr. Richard... You are a blessing. God bless you. Mike Liverpool UK

[@roseschick9976]

Thank you Richard.....this experience of hearing this talk has been nectar for my soul....as most of your talks are..all the best to you ... I hold you in my heart with love and gratitude as I have struggled with the so called Catholic teachings.

[@anitawbrown]

God brought this video and amazing man to me today when I needed it most!! I am in awe of the comfort and love that I feel in the midst of what has been a dark night of the soul for me. I am thankful for a God that is faithful to each and every one of us.

[@davidvartanian]

Life changing book. It’s opened my eyes to see why the Rich Young Ruler, the Prodigal son’s brother, and Pharisees struggled, which are all the same reasons I struggle to surrender to Jesus. We need to continue to embrace, while moving beyond the 10 Commandments into a heart of the Beatitudes, which is a place of purity (devotion), peacemaking (non-dualism), and poverty of spirit (true self without egocentrism).

[@delgadopodcast]

06:43 “Falling Upward” is the pattern of life 07:50 Carl Jung: Problems of life are unsolvable -- only outgrown 08:53 Julian of Norwich: The fall & recovery from the fall is mercy of God 10:34 First half of life is not associated to your age 11:30 First half of life is identity making 12:35 Building your container (identity) 13:33 Growing up in a traditional, conservative, catholic, white family 16:00 Knowing your identity early is a healthy way to start 17:00 If you build your container well, you realize you don’t need it 17:55 First half of life is building container, second half is leaving your container 18:35 Salvation projects fall apart 19:08 Necessary suffering is part of life 20:55 Tragic sense of life 21:33 Self destructive behaviors, addictions, and exorcisms 23:05 Parents help kids set boundaries & impulse control 24:15 Pain in life: loss of job, failures, deaths, disappointments 25:28 Homer’s “Odyssey” reveals first-half & second-half structure 27:43: Message to Odysseus for a second journey 31:00 Odyssey’s oar represents first-half of life task (early identity) 31:50 Maturity is knowing discernment, essentials vs. nonessentials 32:52 Birth & death are key spiritual experiences that change us 34:09 Salvation is a question of when (not if) 34:50 American culture idealizes youth instead of elders (first-half culture) 36:50 Racism in America (first-half culture) 37:32 First-half of life is building container, second-half is contents 38:29 A bright sadness: paradox of a true elder 40:18 Moving beyond dualism: both-and 42:40 More people are moving into second-half of life 44:03 Discharging the loyal soldier ritual in Japan 47:30 Many not told about second-half of life 47:50 Everything has meaning 48:50 There is something more for everyone 49:08 Second-half: New problems & new directions 53:23 Ambiguity: Knowing & not knowing 54:20 Merton: When in the Soul of the Serene Disciple 1:00:00 Transcend & include 1:04:20 Importance of Elders for second journey 1:08:15 Q&A Begins 1:09:15 Fundamentalism & Desire for Certainty 1:12:40 Role of technology? 1:17:32 Role of religious communities? 1:19:30 Emerging christianity & spiritual growth 1:23:38 What is spiritual transformation? 1:25:56 Ambiguity vs. Certainty: Christ is the way

[@jenb8549]

Thank you @delgado podcast. Your list of time stamps must’ve been a lot of work. Thank you once again.

[@donnamast8973]

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[@ankitaherself]

Thankyou for this. You’re kind! ♥️

[@joannpowell2412]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@Nora-yv8op]

Richard Rorh gets it more than anyone else

[@secretscribe2587]

"There is one who believes in you more than you believe in yourself,

[@smarguello4891]

Isn't that always true. And for such I bow down to you.

[@joshuabethea2650]

Thanks mom

[@marksmith7267]

Uuuu

[@evelynmariayeshua]

Yes! It is The Lord God, even YHWH, Who made you in His image and likeness… and His Son Jesus who laid down His life to give you life …. no one else loves you like God does. Love The Lord your God with all that is within you, He is faithful, and has sent The Holy Spirit to guide you into all Truth. Trust in Him alone.

[@christianelliott7060]

One of the great thinkers of our time, some of us felt this but couldn't quite put it onto words... thank you Father Richard Rohr.

[@chipsalbert4673]

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[@ascent7]

Richard rohr Is just awesome and so humble. I emailed him over an issue he immediately replied emphasing me and diminishing his role in his response.A humble servant and deeply insightful.he makes the world a better place for many .

[@michaelwren2992]

He is astounding, but sometimes deeply confronting!!

[@nickowchar2001]

The whole lecture is a gem, but what he starts to say at 35:00 is especially rich. The messages of culture in the US, esp thanks to Hollywood and social media, have blinded us in so many ways. I’m very late to this comments thread but I’ll still say: most of the people on this thread seem to yearn for connection and community instead of arguing about each other’s faith tradition. I love those people. I’d be lucky to be stranded on a desert island with them

[@theguyver4934]

I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives and makes flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim

[@robertlopez5955]

If our centers of formation and diocesan seminaries would teach "the way" Fr. Rohr is teaching, our churches would be overflowing their "container" and the "cup" would run over until all see we are ONE!! Thank you, Father!

[@petroniaskho]

Absolutely. He singlehandedly brought me back to God and helped me find a much deeper spiritual life.

[@josephzultz1551]

@@sml0266 no theyd still be christians. You dont get to define what other people identify as.

[@have2behere477]

We aren't one. The false devil of Christianity wants that, but the fashioner is not the most high. The craftsman Christ is of a lower nature of forms and material than the true God.

[@patriciajones7237]

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[@ruthbailey9699]

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[@yarwnna]

I read the book today....I am so grateful for such an enlightened individual. I now understand the path I've been on for basically the entirity of my life. I have gained insight and peace at continuing to move forward with knowing.

[@MrChelsey10]

Such a moving reflection. Fr. Rohr is the epitome of a true elder! Thank you for sharing your wisdom, Father.

[@JanetArcher0713]

Dwell in paradox, mystery, become a prayer.....breathe. Thank you Richard Rohr.

[@TMPreRaff]

Meaningless.

[@privateidaho03]

Love love love love love love!!! this. Praise God! God bless Fr. Rohr for courageously professing these shocking facts and intriguing mysteries of faith. Be sure to listen to the end, his comments on John 14:6 alone are worth the price of admission. Aspects of the talk are likely to unsettle most Christians, initially. But ask God for the courage to open to these messages and they could usher your Christian spirituality to an unexpected new level of maturity, wisdom, and power. Amen!!

[@telphersylvester9856]

Yes Fr you are a teacher and your explanation is very simple for everyone to understand thank you

[@pokey38]

I'd love to meet this man. He explains Christianity perfectly for me.....Mixing with certain Christian "Militia" has always had me confused and unconvinced, making me feel it was an elitist group. Thank God for this man :)

[@patriciacosgrove9702]

This is the most important and meaningful message that needs to be heard throughout the world and especially in our Catholic Church.

[@forgivemylaughterihaveacon2556]

Be very careful of the priest you follow this man is not Catholic

[@forgivemylaughterihaveacon2556]

He preaches heresy there is no separation of Christ the man and Christ the divine and he preaches the opposite

[@ChocolateJewels]

I thank the gods in the heavens for this man. Reading his books is one thing, but hearing him speak, oh, my soul is soaring! I am soaking his words up like a sponge does water.

[@TMPreRaff]

"Thank the gods"?? BLASPHEMY!! (Actually, there are no gods - NO GODS).

[@harryschultz6951]

“The difference between knowledge and wisdom” This is a prophetic word for our day - thank you Fr Richard +++

[@Hakimajones]

I just want to give thanks I was led to your You Tube posts Father Rohr. So much of what God has revealed to me over the years is the same you have put into words. I can say over the years, "I questioned Lord, why are others not seeing You in All your creation? Why is it not seen a house divided cannot stand? that Oneness is unity and Love of All. I had wandered off in these questions thinking maybe I have misunderstood like so many of my Christian friends are telling me. Anyway, Thank You! As I listened to several of your posts my spirit jumped and my Joy returned... my name means Reborn and as I listened I heard, "now will you open the door again and follow me committed and Trusting what I reveal?" Answer: Yes, Yes, a thousand times yes. I say all the time " God is on time, all the time" and once again He was thru your posts.

[@BTBA_podcast]

Father Richard starts at 5:54 Great talk

[@goranh77]

This guy is brilliant! I wish there were more priests like him in Catholic church.

[@TMPreRaff]

...or less Catholic church.

[@theguyver4934]

@@TMPreRaff - I pray that Yahweh protects true Christianity revives it and makes it flourish till the day of resurrection respect from a Muslim

[@lucymb00]

Father Rohr is an EXTRAORDINARY, AMAZING spiritual guide!

[@thabim.1377]

I’m 47 and since last year, I’ve been feeling as if I’m missing something deep that I didn’t know what was. A need to go away and spend time alone in the middle of nowhere, away from the norms of life. So this is just like cold water into my soul. Thank you Sir💕

[@peacelovejoy8786]

I've felt this way all my life! It never made sense to me to say our God is a loving God and then say, God will punish you for doing that!? Sheesh, I'm now 64 and found truth long time ago..that we are one with God.. heaven is not a place in the sky and hell is what you allow your ego mind to create! 🦋🙏❤ keep on the path of love for that is all there is

[@rubymeagher1005]

Brilliant. Wisdom given by God in a man who brings it to us. Thank you Father Richard!

[@zarahcastro3601]

It amazes me this was 11 years ago. The content is still very much relevant today. Fr. Rohr's take of fundamentalism in many religions makes sense. I am in my own spiritual journey after a very difficult last four years. Base on this talk i think i am on my track to the 2nd part.💕

[@JourneyoftheSacred]

Dear TLU, many thanks for putting this video on the net. It is great that Richard's message is getting a broader airing. I particularly liked 'discharging the loyal soldier' part of the talk.

[@cbhmadog]

Excellent understanding for growing to maturity in faith journey towards unity in the Divine

[@GenealogyJohnGile]

Richard is my morning study - for the past 15 years! Books, tapes and CD's

[@GregOrangeDoor]

John Gile maybe the Bible should be your morning study?

[@GregOrangeDoor]

Robb Feldhaus who? Richard or John?

[@Robb3348]

@John Gile Have you ever disagreed with something Rohr says? just curious

[@GregOrangeDoor]

Robb Feldhaus MANY things.

[@cheryldeshon3958]

Mine as well.

[@mikehalinan]

Luke 10:2 "Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest." I believe Rohr is one of the labourers sent forth by God to help enrich our relationship with God by bringing us understanding. I love this guy. He's like a Catholic Socrates.

[@normbabbitt4325]

This is so deep, wise and even brilliant! Richard Rohr really cuts to the core of what really matters in this life and in all authentic spiritual and religious paths. I'll listen to this more than once. That is for sure.

[@markw5139]

I thought I was ahead of the crowd with Richard Rohr, having discovered his writings when "Things Hidden" was published. But I left him alone for about 7 years; discovered "Breathing Under Water", and as I was excitedly telling my AA buddies about the book, one of the guys says rather casually: "Yeah, we know about Father Rohr. Check him out online. He's got some good video lessons". That was about 2 weeks ago. Well, at least all of you confirm my feelings about Fr. Rohr's explanation of transformative spirituality. Yeah! mark

[@josephzammit8483]

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[@johnallen3761]

Our greatest Catholic writer.

[@glenntanaka3066]

John Allen why claim him as yours, isn't he His?

[@WakingUpToday213]

What you and Glenn Tanaka said! He's all of ours!

[@ernestoa.jimenez3206]

"We're going to have a very strange consciousness in 10 years" 10 years later: spot on.

[@kevinhill9462]

wow.

[@hazelvoss]

And getting stranger.

[@karenaiken8758]

If I could meet one of the most outstanding spiritual metaphysicians, thinkers, person wise beyond words, it would be you. And what an honor that would be. I deeply appreciate all you say. A true gift to the world.

[@mariap1919]

What an amazing man....wishing him a swift recovery..

[@waynegunter6741]

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[@Cmkrs34]

Never thought anyone would equal, even surpass at teaching what A de Mello also said. many times in different ways. What a communicator. So easy to understand and thats what communicating is all about. Thankyou Richard. Thankyou❤

[@gloriamariadc7757]

Loved this so much. I read his bk Falling Forward. (Watching this in 2023).

[@Restorationacceptanc]

He has put flesh on the thoughts which have been going round in my head for years....

[@TMPreRaff]

Eeewwww.

[@discipledesigned]

@@TMPreRaff “the word became flesh”

[@carolvoisard]

LOVE YOU Father Richard Rohr .. thank you for speaking The Truth in Love!

[@carolvoisard]

and guiding my life ... with truth as you have since I first heard you speak in 1982

[@Robb3348]

Have you ever felt that you knew better than Father Richard Rohr on some issue, big or small? Never? Really? hmmmmm

[@shobamacintyre6856]

I get the last bit too...and I feel and think the same way. if I had to stay home today just to listen to this - it was worth it

[@glennc3570]

Truth recognizes truth. All truth comes from the Holy Spirit. God bless you Father Rohr. You are in my prayers and in my thanks to God. I'm glad that technology can be used in a good way as evidenced by the availability of this video. God speaks to us in so many different ways. Thank you.

[@endtimes8889]

i believe i was healed from stomach problem when i started to watch this.

[@flannelflower3036]

I can't begin to tell you how much this resonates with me. So very helpful to me in understanding what has been happening me. Thank you very much Father Richard.

[@77goanywhere]

Wow! Christ IN US is accomplishing the end for which the eternal LOGOS was made manifest. The bringing of many sons to the glory eternally existent in the Trinity. This is what our lives are being moved toward and into. Thank you Father Richard.

[@paulaokane5088]

Thank you Father Richard Rohr for sharing your deeply profound wisdom. You are a breath of fresh air.

[@mikebowman9844]

Thank you Richard.

[@LesNorman]

Really enjoyed this talk, addresses my questions and dilemmas at 67, highly recommended as is the book.

[@vinceboyle5063]

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[@vincemccarthy2165]

John main

[@stephenhilliard68]

I also am 67and searching.

[@jeskulawlz]

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[@pippick1946]

Well said ! Well said ! Thank you Fr. Rohr !

[@mnaus43]

WOW, WOW, WOW! I love his books, but there is something about watching and listening to him speak that gives it even more impact. The quality of this video is excellent, as well. Thank you!

[@petercheyne]

Richard Rohr is very certain about our inability to be certain.

[@ademiranda2]

I just got "What the Mystics Know: Seven Pathways to Your Deeper Self". I can't wait to start reading it! He is amazing. I am so happy I discovered him.

[@deanbrandon3615]

He said he does not stop at a stop signs if there is no one there. The reason to stop every time, or at lest try, even if no one is there (other than to avoid a ticket) is for that one time, when you are distracted, you stop anyway out of habit, and avoid hitting a pedestrian or other car you did not see.

[@vrindajib]

The message is L-O-V-E like a child.....to enter the heaven here and now.. Beyond the time and space of theory and thougt. Just Be Love.

[@blueheron5232]

+vrindajib It takes a lot of traveling to get back to the point from which we start... but there is no avoiding the journey. We must set out just as we must leave the womb. One may waste time clinging to Mama like an overgrown child and delaying the trip but anyone adventurous enough to leave the womb is brave enough to handle it.

[@TerryDengler]

Excellent message and the book is so good for those who are in or approaching the second half of life.

[@larrylang1951]

Your writings and teaching has given me a new level of understanding my faith journey and sharing this learning with others has been my great joy. Thank you for this wisdom.

[@christinethomas6763]

Thank you for such a simple message simply enlightening our way to truth through the Christian tradition.

[@chmod0644]

When I hear teaching like this, it makes me want to know Christ

[@debifambro1039]

I love Fr Rohr. Very wise! I listen to his lectures nd read his books multiple times. Thank you.

[@asstanley8438]

I've just read james hollis phd ''finding meaning in the second half of life'' and I loved it. I wonder how the two compare. I"m going to order this now. I like the sound of immortal diamond and what the mystics know as well. Can't decide which to read first. I'm in my late forties so i am heartened to hear i'm on schedule. I feel like I am late to a lot of realisations I wish I'd had sooner.

[@owensweetland342]

A few short years ago, as I observed the congregation from my seat in the choir, just how many of were there to experience communion. I felt that most were still in their 1st half of life. Going to church because if you didn't it would be a sin, etc. It was just a ritual.

[@simonpollo]

Thank you for uploading this!

[@JimTuckerCCIM]

Richard is the living example of the paradox he discusses in all of his books and helps each of us to pry open our dualistic minds to more and more learn to accept the world and everything in it as perfect just the way it is. There are no mistakes in God's world. Unless we can learn to see life this way, we can never be happy or peaceful people.

[@debifambro1039]

great teaching... WOW. I've read some of his books. today listening and watching Richard Rohr just settled some of my doubts and questions. thank you

[@ajaj9244]

Yes, Richard- right on!

[@wanderingmystic-o3u]

this is pure gold.

[@patricialawson-df4wo]

Beautiful! So much wisdom.

[@erinpillman]

Wonderful

[@mrtaurus51]

Words of wisdom everybody should hear ... may God bless us all.

[@leswt52]

Great teaching i hope i am on the right path amen.

[@markhanson7466]

Amazing talk.

[@nityaninadgroups798]

i randomly listened to be the "stop" story at 50:00. Thank you I was in need of a good laugh!

[@b52270]

Excellent discussion!!!

[@pianogus]

Amazing , inspiring lecture from Father Rohr. Thank you! Without in any way downplaying Tenzin Gyatso, his Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, your direct quotations at 49:40 has been also attributed to both Schoenberg and Picasso, though.

[@thequeenmidas]

Yup, at 47 I'm on schedule though my 2nd life journey seems to have started at age 41.

[@hadamerryweather577]

God is one in three Divine Prrsons❤

[@storybored972]

It wasn’t til I thought of myself as the least, the littlest, and that last, that I felt the freedom and saw the magic.

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

Makes me want to cry

[@lyndao7356]

Great stuff. I haven’t heard this much good sense in a long while.

[@krowtentenretni7016]

Consider the emotions of fear and love at opposite ends of a frequency spectrum. We are naturally beings of a particular frequency/vibration that is typically much higher than the thoughts we have. It's by calming those lower frequency thoughts/emotions that allow the idea of "falling in love" which is a parallel of "falling upward" (in frequency). So... quiet your mind... and let yourself "fall" into Love.

[@MrPDGee]

That's not love. That's self deception. You want to know what the love of God really is? He tells you plainly in His Scriptures: In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and gave His Son to be the propitiation (satisfying sacrifice) for our sins. (1 John 4:10) For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on (totally trusts) Him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16) But God showed His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8) Love comes down to us from God, it's not something we fall into (not even up into). Only once we have received the love of God - when we put faith in the total remission of our sins by His Son's death and resurrection - can we then love one another.

[@krowtentenretni7016]

You have only learned from the scripture of man. Try 1 John 2:27 and John 16:13. Stop reading and start listening to the Spirit.

[@MrPDGee]

Krowten Tenretni The Scriptures are not of men but of God. Or do you not believe 2 Tim 3:16-17? John 16:13, within the immediate context of the preceding and following verse (John 16:12-14) was a promise made by the Christ to His disciples - that for now they were confused by the wonderful revelations He had made to them - and that they were not able to bear or understand more, even though He had much more to tell them - this being because they cold only understand it based on their education/learning and not with their spirits which were still dead within them as Christ had not yet died on the cross - and that following His death, resurrection, and ascension, God would send His spirit to indwell and teach those who put their trust in the finished work of Christ on the cross to pay for their sins and trust in His resurrection as the promise of eternal life with God. It is THIS spirit that was given on Pentecost; that was responsible for the subsequent books and letters written and collected as the New Testament; and it is this same Spirit that gives life to every soul that is dead in their trespasses and sin the moment they put their faith in the Faithful One, Jesus. It is this same Spirit, that is mentioned by John in 1 John 2:27 where John calls it "anointing" - a seal - which is in perfect agreement with the rest of Scripture and the seal and the Holy Spirit are clearly identified as synonymous in Eph 1:13 It is God's Spirit, God the Spirit, the Holy Spirit that quickens, and seals, and teaches us, and it is the Word of God, by the Spirit of God which contains the knowledge, wisdom, and instruction from God. The "spirit" you would have us listen to, which would be apart from reading the Word of God, can only be the spirit of deception.

[@1954patrizio]

MrPDGee Did not the Holy Spirit inspire men to write what God wanted to be written?

[@krowtentenretni7016]

And to this day men have more faith in words than in Spirit. Dependent on the written word for guidance. When you realize your true self.. Your connection to creation.. You'll know the Spirit is beyond words. Words are for the brain... The Divine is beyond the brain.

[@Alykat736]

I'm so happy to hear the truth is penetrating thru religion.

[@lauriecameron9678]

How do we live in both/and way? How do we transcend what we've learned before but include all beings, all traditions? How can we cultivate an "elder' way of being that Richard describes, so that we can tolerate ambiguity, navigate uncertainty, live with an open heart and be receptive to what is emerging? Thank you Richard.

[@courageousmisfits]

I don’t presume to answer for Father Richard, but I would encourage you to keep reading his books and his teaching on non-dualistic thinking. Answers to important questions are rarely a simple yes or no. This type of thinking creates a tribal mentality and sets one tribe against the other. It’s win/lose thinking. Non-dualistic thinking creates space for larger perspectives from people who are dissimilar to us. It’s compassionate thinking. It’s win/win thinking. It’s letting go of ego thinking. I hope I’ve related adequately what I’ve learned from RR. Don’t take it from me. Keep reading.

[@leahnicole725]

Awesome - Thank you for sharing

[@sandrajean5634]

Beautiful. Thank you.

[@lamyw2]

Amazing talk.

[@estheracosta6510]

Hey Father, We use the I am Principle so many times in 24 hrs. It's Amazing (I am going here, I am doing this or that, I am coming over, I am exhausted, I am not) E

[@monikawinkelmann4823]

Gorgeous. Also for women, second half of life. Clear. Honest.

[@alichebry]

Brilliant!

[@ogma11]

I wish more ppl could see and comprehend this man's message. no offense to any, i like to describe this kind of thinking as 'chewy' it takes a lot of contemplation (chewing) before it can be "digested" (understood.) he is talking about, what can be, a lifetimes work. good stuff ! =}

[@DiscoverJesus]

I like to describe it as Babalonian because of it's oneness and denial of the Jesus of the Scriptures

[@edmorrison7590]

Wake up people this man is free of himself and he is enjoying the journey. The first step starts now.

[@sreelekhaghosh2801]

. K.

[@sreelekhaghosh2801]

Ookkkkkkoooo

[@paraklesis8981]

@@edmorrison7590 yeah

[@Jett-k7u]

Yes, he’s a great teacher

[@donvanderslice]

So good. Rohr's approach to midlife (coupled with James Hollis' book The Middle Passage) has been transformational.

[@diegonayalazo]

Thanks again

[@jimfair5348]

In my experience communion is so much more than a nibble and a sip.

[@marleneblack7606]

this man is really good and makes a lot of sense

[@Goddeify]

Dear Richard, I understand what you mean by the 'container.' I also understand what you mean by 'transcend and include,' although I don't think I'm there yet. I was given a very good container by my parents, however what I feel distressed about at times is that approximately 6 years ago, I stopped going to church. I was not able to say the 'new?old' language that had been brought in, I couldn't take the continued discrimination against women, with the parish priest having a tantrum over a female, once asking to give a small homily instead of him, the priest actively forbidding anyone to come to the small morning tea gathering that I held for the Eucharistic ministers to get to know each other and ultimately it was only myself who turned up. I realise that this is all level one, I realise that this is all ego and non-transformation but I walked out as I was returning home angrier from mass than when I went to go an hour earlier. The last 5 years I feel I have been in what must be an incredible dark night of the soul. However, what I am a little distressed about is that when I stopped going, I told my husband and my children (then mid-late teens) all about my anger over the behaviour, the institutional injustice and as a result my children, now young adults do not attend church either. I feel like maybe I deprived them of this part of the container. Should I have kept going just in order to get them to go? Have I contributed to their having less of a good container? At present they are very happy secure young adults and we debate the larger things in life. I feel that the best I can do in my transforming (into im not sure what) is that I listen and be there for them, communicate love, present moment-ness, to be aware of the importance of Be-ing, the awareness of 'the others' as Bill Plotkin says and to have a deep gratitude for everything. You won't be answering this, but I just had to put it out there. I hope I haven't deprived them of part of the essential 1st half of life container. Thankyou.

[@genie401]

I hope you received a reply somehow. ( I don't see one here) What I would like to suggest is to find another Catholic parish with a better, more enlightened and understanding pastor. where true spirituality can flourish. I pray that you can.

[@Goddeify]

+Jean DelFrate Thankyou for your kind words.

[@sonicmainiacs]

Templetiger could have been a blessing in disguise... but I would approach the second life & model it as best you can to your loved ones. The importance of pursuing GOD 💛

[@aldavillafuerte9859]

Templetiger, just lift it all to God in prayer (your past, your family, yourself) and He will know what to do. The important thing is the now. Hope you can still go to church and relate in love with your parish priest and your old friends in the Eucharistic Ministers Group. You can also invite your wife, children, grandchildren to go with you. May the Holy Spirit grant you this grace. God loves you very much!