Fatshark's new Digital FPV goggles

[@slowentropy4531]

Carl has said HDZero goggles will do analog as well.

[@steezyfpv7620]

If Redcat is doing a backdoor deal with DJI then using the tech to sell equipment to the US military, they didn't try hide it very well 😂

[@biggfpv2721]

Yeah i doubt the military is that dumb if they think they can fool them

[@dcus55]

That's so obvious that's it's why I am assuming it's Teal, not based on DJI. Maybe only Fatshark told told Teal programmers "it should look like this" but with a Teal background.

[@terminsane]

look at the interview bardwell did withthe fatshark guy... dude seems like he owns a yacht and ready to sail off at a moments notice

[@dcus55]

@@terminsane seemed like Red Cat said you can’t answer that as the other company hasn’t announced it yet. Being Red Cat is Rotor Riot, FatShark and Teal parent, I thought it was more evidence of a Red Cat inter company synergy.

[@terminsane]

@@dcus55 If FatShark had developed its own new digital system, it wouldn't be working so hard to make it appear identical to DJI. i don't think its a coincidence that DJI leaked details about their new 1080 system, then 1 month later we see Caddx's parent company release Avatar HD at the same time FatShark releases its Dominator HD. And they all have identical specs. And they all physically look identical, with different color scheme & logo. And FatShark's Dominator menu showed its DVR videos named "Avatar".... I think its clear these are DJI goggles, and they're pretending not to be DJI. Just like RunCam's "Split HD" is just a vista. Just like Caddx's vista is just a DJI vista... All of the vista VTX are all made by DJI, regardless of what RunCam or Caddx call them. And all these 1080 digital goggles that look identical are all just DJI goggles, rebranded.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Who else remembers when teal came out and it was a family friendly ez to fly drone, no one cared so they pivoted to a military contractor hahahaha

[@robertbrander2074]

WOW ! .... Another new Product ! ... in a Never Ending conveyer of New Products ... that make all my Old Stuff ... Obsolete !! and Forgotten in today's flooded market ... Is this some kind of a Racket ? .... We used to make do with what we had and tweek it to perform better using balancing and design ... cheap reliable components and DIY .... My interest has Waned and my excitement is gone .... Just take Glue or Flight Controllers for example , there are 25 different types ...... I don't know about others but I feel Overwhelmed ... and I got so much Stuff ... I certainly don't need more ... But I still love RCModelreviews ... Listening to Bruce never gets old ! ... Cheers !

[@Jangmo88]

Just found this channel and he is very pleasant to listen to

[@robertbrander2074]

@@Jangmo88 Subscribe ! And watch all his shows , you can learn a lot ! Bruce is the Best ! ... He's the reason I got all this stuff ! :-) FliteTest is good too .

[@doccock100]

A beautiful description of the nuanced layers of enjoyment (analog) that only a mature view can bring. The 'youthful' more pixels=more fun is not always true. I remember having more fun on my 125cc dirt bike than I ever got from the 1000cc race bikes I owned. Thanks for the reminder of focusing on what makes me happy rather than the best system is the most fun.

[@Alex_McG]

Someone may have said this already, but regardless of if the hardware is branded DJI or not, if it contains any Chinese-made data-transmitting components (the MCU/radios) it is not compliant with U.S. Executive Order 13981 and won't get the DoD stamp of approval anyway.

[@johnnickerson9037]

The best speculation I have heard yet

[@TobyMuirson]

The hdzero goggle with be compatible with existing analog vrx.. No need to worry.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

A few things not really addressed: First off, I'm really excited about the SINGLE BOARD VTX! I've been wanting that for quite some time and here it is - much smaller, one board instead of two, and how much will that weigh as a naked single board? 4 - 7 grams, I'd guess! GREAT IMPROVEMENT! And, it has a DVR built in! lol So, this single board gives us what the DJI Air Unit - the BIG one does, but it's much lighter and smaller, still has a DVR, does 1080P, which the Caddx Vista didn't have, of course, and it will mount 25mm x 25mm for whoops! 25.5mm? I don't know. Secondly, there's more to the difference between HDZero and DJI that the fixed latency, obviously, but the BIGGEST difference to me is the PENETRATION! DJI's penetration is fantastic! Behind buildings, a floor or two down in a concrete parking garage - Sure! No Problem! HDZero - NO WAY - BIG Gigantic Problem! HDZero has HORRENDOUS penetration! I think it's mostly why reviewers seem to give us simple open field flying reviews! Which, I do not do because it's too damn boring! UGH! But, if you see a video, like JB's parking garage test, where he does test penetration of all systems, HDZero is even worse than plain ole analog! It's really quite bad or actually we might just call it non existent! or CRAP! :0 Your right about pre-ordering! Not a good idea, and not available in any other field of electronics! I think it's a bad way to go because YOU are the Beta tester for the manufacturer, continually flashing and re-flashing firmware to get rid of this bug and that bug, over and over again, where THEY SHOULD BE BETA TESTING THEIR OWN GEAR! Lazy, cheap, %UCKS! lol ;(

[@Rcschim]

I don't like speculation videos that much, but yours is really good and I learned something today ;) I also get asked by new FPVers if they should buy DJI v2 now if v3 is on the horizon and that was even before this new fatshark sys. I totally agree that DJI v2 goggles will still be a very good choice for a long time until the new systems are fully firmware patched up. The only downside from DJI currently would be the Limitation on OSD - but even this is no real problem. Volts and amps, maybe some gps infos is all I need... Liked how you described the nostalgia involved in flying your analog wing ;) greets, Mario

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

I don't own a DJI system - and have never tried one. I am sure that the experience is AMAZING - and yet, I've been very skeptical of buying their goggles/FPV systems. Why? Its not so much the "latency" issues that pilots describe, its more the control that the company has over its users - from firmware updates that prevent you from rolling back the current firmware to NO BACKWARDS compatibility at each iteration of development. This is a shitty business model and I am hoping that Fatshark can help make this technology open and competitive for the sake of this hobby......

[@Rcschim]

@@sunsetpark_fpv sure, they are like apple... but like apple they have really good hardware. The firmware issue is almost gone since there are no more ;) The last thing they did was the forced downgrade on the v2 goggles.

[@TimsDrones]

I fly FPV with digital only (cept my whoops which I fly indoors all winter long) - because - I fly in nature and I love to look up close at the things I cannot see up close - without using an FPV drone. I fly through the trees, around em, under em, etx. And I love doing that. The more resolution - the better. I remember when I first put on the DJI goggles - my first thought was "I can see now". Digital is the only way forward for me. Nature is too beautiful for analog FPV.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Well said and I totally agree! Have you tried flying up into the canopy of trees and out through the small 1' x 1' holes in the labyrinth of branches? It's fantastic! Super co0ol, DUDE! =(:^)-

[@CorruptName1]

I recently purchased a Babyhawk 2 HD and it came with (what I now know is) a WalkSnail antenna. As for Caddx designing this, no. No chance they would arrive at the exact same icons and menu item names. Channels 1,2,3 & 8 in 50mbps mode? (50mbps & 25mbps?) And focus mode? The "DJI V3" was codenamed "Avatar" and the DVR records files named "Avata". And on and on. These are not things you arrive at by designing a new system. This is the same system. What I want to know, can it bind to my existing Air Units?

[@michaelcaraballo9642]

Agree with you 100%. And its not really Avatar, it IS Avata(R)ecording

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, someone take the quad with the new VTX in it, and try to bind it to the V2 goggles! :)

[@FilipRadelic]

Caddx/Walksnail confirmed multiple times current DJI FPV System isn't supported on this, "because this is a new different system". One thing that is clear is this is NOT the new "DJI Avata" stuff, it's based on the "V1" DJI FPV System and a company that wasn't even able to make analog cameras without having dust on their sensors.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@FilipRadelic Big question is: whose gonna be the first to make that 25.5mm x 25.5mm VTX NAKED, and put it in a whoop and see it get way down there in weight for a digital whoop with great penetration? Cuz we all know HDZero can get us a lightweight whoop, but it won't give us anything close to great penetration, that's for sure! 😎🤘

[@FilipRadelic]

@@KOrnhOliO1 I'm perfectly fine with my DJI whoop, not gonna get a whole new super similar system to save maybe 1.5g 🙂

[@anthonystownsend]

From what I've heard, Teal Drones uses DJI innards with just a Teal drones covering.

[@ammochief]

Heard?

[@jamesgreenler8225]

Also if we are using dji in the military then China and Russia and whoever will already have countermeasures. I'd be on the lookout for functions that prevent adversarial countermeasures. Thats a big deal and is the the difference between life and death in a combat scenario

[@TheEviling]

We already have bags that let us strap extra quads to the outside of the bags, now we're getting to the point where we need straps for all the extra goggles we need in our bags. I liked this hobby a lot more back when all we needed was a JR module bay in our transmitter and goggles. Too much proprietary locked down nonsense these days.

[@joncoop2873]

@TheEviling Not sure exactly what you mean... All you need is 1 pair of goggles and a JR module in your transmitter nowadays. I started flying FPV a few years ago and I now Fly HD and I use just one pair of goggles and a crossfire module... If you wanna strap multiple pairs of Goggles and radio link modules to your backpack, that's your choice... I do agree that there is a lot of options lately, but I see that only as a good thing for all of us FPVer's... Competition will only make our hobby better and cheaper!

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

@@joncoop2873 You are dead on - BUT - it has gotten to the point where you have to Decide on a radio link Decide on a video link Equip any and all currently owned/operable quads with above radio/video hardware choices.... 2 months later...... Wait a sec - is that a NEWER, more betterer radio link? More betterer vision system??? I NEED THIS IN MY QUADS! I agree with what you said regarding competition making the hobby better - just seems tricky to pick a winning horse recently......the winning horse changes so fast LOL 😁

[@skyrotfpv]

Thanks for your video! You just made me realize that one of the most fun I have is to fly analog and then watch the HD footage when I get home. This 'surprise' effect isn't given with any HD FPV footage or not to this extend. It reminds me of photography in the good old film days. Kudos for pointing this out! ✌️

[@kgchrome]

in an article i read about militarized ukraine hobby drones, there is a DJI supplied system that shows the telemetry from local operating DJI drones. the russians were using it to track the start, flight path, and end points of drone flights and send forces to capture/kill the operators.

[@Trevellian]

Yes. the US had good reasons to cease government purchases of DJI products. DJI broadcasts the coordinates of every drone and controller at ALL times. And in Ukraine, DJI has taken Russia's side in the war. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGKZZ5iZrrN1edk

[@pedrofdmp]

Hopefully this one will have sound

[@Rogue_FPV]

Many points were well said here.. Bravo Sir... Bravo.

[@LookingForEntertainment112]

It would be amazing if DJI are willing to release something that's not even at Beta level. The system JB showed was clearly not ready for release, it's basically a Kickstarter level product.

[@robert_g_fbg]

Knowing how hard it is to design a video processing chipset, and how long it takes, it’s improbable that Cadxx/walksnail are sporadically releasing a brand new system. The mystery is where the big silicon comes from; DJI themselves or a common supplier. The tear downs shall be quite enlightening, I’m awaiting Ian’s take from the microscope.

[@sinkWad]

Its China. You don't have think hard about it at all. Their entire MO is to COPY a product that is doing well just to try to make money themselves. In this case it is a Chinese company copying another Chinese company.

[@dcus55]

I was hoping it was Teal, and not DJI. Red Cat's subsidiary Teal, with an encrypted digital system, but no goggles previously, nice synergy between Red Cat companies.

[@terminsane]

its identical to walksnail's Avatar HD headset. identical look & specs. plus DJI anounced their own 1080 system. and walksnail owns caddx and caddx resells dji.

[@gazafpv]

your correct about hdzero, i haven't been able to get my hands on 1w vtx which has forced me to cancel my order and look towards this "new" system

[@jasonleesuffolk]

Can someone please help me to choose a good fpv setup for my glider,think ill go for analog and use the skyzone o4x googles,but not sure what camera and vtx to get ?

I'm really happy with the TBS Unify Pro32 VTx. As a camera I'm using a Runcam (Racer 4 and 5) as well as a Runcam Hybrid (includes HD Video recording). Absolutely solid setup so far. If you don't pack a big battery there is a 5V version of the TBS Unify available as well.

[@bigdatapimp]

Walksnail was just incorporated on Wednesday.... i thought the same thing about DJI being on the black list.

[@pdub3rd]

China doesn't respect US patents for sure. Don't know if China has patents either. Often factory workers sneak designs and or hardware across the street and sell them to another factory that makes a slightly different cloned version of products which is one reason tech products evolve and innovate rapidly when produced there. Gregg is not a good liar and I get the feeling this move could backfire on Fat Shark when the truth comes out. Unless the truth is that all these true fpv first companies worked together in order to get around DJI and have the freedom to continue improving what DJI just doesn't care about. It eerily has some of the same early bugs of the DJI FPV V1 goggles. More resolution, oled displays, but can only display 90fps. As I was watching Bardwell's video, I got an email from Flywoo advertising a new system and charging $1 for updates on it's development! I've been using the V1 goggles as my daily for a couple years. Even for analogue thanks to the adapter from BDI and a TBS Fusion. I never pre-order anything and rarely am a beta tester or early adopter. I waited until the V1 goggles came out with 50mb mode and were stable. So hopefully my V1 keep working until this chaos and smoke & mirrors is sorted out to where there is an affordable replacement that hopefully allows analogue input also. Whoops are still enjoyed best via analogue and I have an old analogue set of goggles that just hurt my head and eyes. I'd have a hard time buying a digital and an analogue set of goggles. Thanks for the video Bruce.

[@TimsDrones]

Things use to work much the same here - but - we don't build stuff anymore - we job it all out - and the expertise that goes with it. I'm really old - and I do remember the better days. When your next job was just down the street from where you worked.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

That backdoor deal would be the same as US company Swann using security camera and recorder hardware from Hikvision and Dahua

[@mikbacitube]

I could not agree more.. I stopped buying drones and equipment that breaks the bank because I work for living still (unlike some others😁) and I still have lot of fun. I hate this "Label-product politics" I miss the time that when with less than 150 dollars you could put a system together and really have fun.

[@BigWaterUAV]

I agree with you. Great info as always!

[@pteranodon3946]

I doubt Caddx would be able to reverse engineer the DJI FPV system which would include designing their own video processing asic. And even if they were they such a system would certainly have at least small differences in features and performance which judging from Barwells video it doesn't have. To me the most plausible explanation is simply that the tech in the Fatshark system comes straight from DJI and both made that deal because both do benefit from it. That is fine for me, the only thing I don't like about it is being lied to.

[@housinit]

Great take Bruce! Every point you have made is exactly all the thoughts I have had on this new release. It really does seem like a bunch of smoke and mirrors to cover for DJI technology. It could be that Caddx was able to reverse engineer DJI tech. But I tend to think that Caddx wouldn't want to try to go up against DJI and have to deal with possible legal battles. Don't know how that all works in China, do they even have patent laws there? It would be really interesting to see the PCB and the chipsets inside the new goggles. Its all definitely interesting.

[@HowlandFPV]

It is 100% like you said it

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Please keep in mind - This new Fatshark digital has brought us a SINGLE BOARD VTX with DVR! That's better than the two boards in the Caddx Vista because it has a DVR, like the older, huge DJI Air Unit! Very co0ol, and so much smaller and lighter! YEAH! :)

[@oziumentisis]

Its China, they all tow the same line.

[@truggles120]

With all this speculation, could we have the digital FPV system semicloning? Where its all pretty much the same behind the scenes, but its all branded differently? Not with HDZero of course.

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Great info Bruce 🤙🏼

[@Kaarzah]

There was no mention of a VTX at the presentation which would be the tell tale sign of what system it is. I am 99.9% certain it was an air unit. Which would almost certainly entail it being DJI based.

[@MCsCreations]

Well... If it looks like DJI, smells like DJI, tastes like DJI... "But it's not DJI!"... Hmmm... Curious. 🤔 Great video, Bruce! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@RubyS.1]

Funniest thing is that video kind of turned me off to the new system didn't seem ready. It's definitely a product I would wait a year or more before purchasing personally

[@MrOmin13]

I fly whoops, I also have a 3 inch and a 4 inch HD quad, It was all LOS at first. The main reasons I bought into the DJI goggles over Fat Shark were 1. I had no FPV hardware previous to the purchase and the buy in cost was the same. 2. DJI was readily available on the used market since everyone was trying to get into the 2.0 goggles. 3. Both analogue and digital are supported. With 2 bits of extra hardware I can have both signals on one set of goggles. At this point if I want to upgrade I need to be able to incorporate both ecosystems in a new headset and replace what I currently have. I understand that digital is the future, but at there are going to be times where it isn't feasible to run one system over the other, and having both options is great. The upgraded screen is fantastic, same with the new features and being able to have the full BF OSD. The issue I have with Dominator HD Is there no option for analogue, and for the company to assume im gonna have another pair of goggles is ridiculous. Ill be sticking with DJI for now.

[@alanhilder1883]

Digital is "higher res" but as soon as there is signal issue, digital shows nothing and you crash while analog gets a bit "snowy" and you have warning to turn around.

[@acevr4]

HDZero behaves like analouge inthis sense, i fly it and love it, Price and engagement from the owner to the little people not just the "pro Pilots"

[@charleswatt4397]

I doubt that Caddx designed this from the ground up based on how similar all of the menu screens look to DJI. I also doubt that Caddx would do anything to really piss off DJI either given their relationship. I agree with you that DJI doesn't seem all that committed to FPV. Things are changing! With Analog, everyone's stuff was pretty much compatible so you could use old goggles with new cameras and VTX's or buy new goggles and use them with your old quads. Digital systems are not that way at all. I hope HDZero survives but they are the small fish with minimal resources and there are not many of their units out in the field and you can't even buy one today.

[@spacecowboy07723]

Dji crew has moved on to 3d printing

[@RCinginSC]

Still flying analog for freestyle because in the end, the only footage anyone sees is the gopro footage.

[@johncarold]

Hi Bruce Great news about the New FatShark Googles. It's definitely getting to be interesting in the next couple of months. Thanks again for your video

[@jchohan370]

Nice perspective. I'm sticking to analogue for now.

[@Tomstoy2]

What would I want if I wanted to break into digital fpv? I would want DJI stripped down and upgraded. I’d remove the rx, ditch the registration stuff, add oled and step it up to 1080p. What concerns me, latency. In JB’s vid, flying 720p I noticed the latency change from 21ms all the way up to 74. Don’t know about others experiences, but I can’t be the only one, I hate flying my DJI goggles at anything over 40. As that’s where 1080p starts I question how flyable it is? If they can fix the latency it would be a huge improvement over DJI! Let’s not forget Carl has already expressed his will be a true progressive scan!

[@xymaryai8283]

if Fatshark or Caddx remove all the registration crap from the DJI system, i will consider it. the way they're building it in is annoying, in terms of digital vs analog though, as long as the Dominator HDs have a HDMI or DisplayPort input, thats as much as i can reasonably expect.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Nope, they don't. Xjet said so in this video.

[@testpilotian3188]

I don’t get this POV, if you have a problem with your Fatshark googles and need to get them repaired under warranty, you need to have either, registered them the old way when you bough them, or in most cases, produce the invoice from when you bought them, in order to get Fatshark to fix them, same for other equipment, when I had a problem with a crossfire receiver, TBS wouldn’t do anything until I produced the invoice from the purchase. With DJI you don’t have to do this, when my Air Unit packed up, I opened a ticket, gave them the serial number and within a few days had a courier at my door picking it up to take it to DJI repair centre in The Netherlands, within a week I had a replacement back, no faffing about for the simple task of activating the unit online which took all of 15 seconds. Once activated you never need to plug it back in unless you want to update it.

[@FilipRadelic]

@@testpilotian3188 BUT THEY SEND YOUR DVRS TO CHINA! 😂 people will always be ridiculous.

[@winder6]

AS always you make some really good points cheers

[@DavidOwensuk]

Whatever the reason… I am just really pleased that fatshark have made an integrated HD goggle.

[@h2o40fpv]

That was a great video thank u.

[@raztaz826]

Don't forget RubyHD and OpenHD :)

[@davidtomasetti8520]

Honestly it’s not paranoia to be skeptical of DJI and their connection to the Chinese government

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

Love ya Bruce! - looking forward to your opinions regarding this system in the near future 😎

[@zimmy1958]

Thanks

[@dizzyfpv4903]

UBad and Immersion could easily make this too, Bruce

[@LWJCarroll]

Hoping the “competition” will drop the prices a lot….Laurie.

[@bulldogboy100]

Like hearing you talk, had no idea what you were talking about

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Honestly I'm more excited for open hd. It got to be open source like elrs so multiple manufacturers get involved and price stays down. I want digital at races

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

I haven't used digital, I own a Fatshark Sharkbyte VRX but haven't used it yet, and I AGREE with you 100%. I think that HDZero has yet to evolve into its full potential. 😎

[@nonsequitor]

That Caddx theory is very interesting... Would also explain the tight lips.... That'd potentially be a delicate situation. Re: security : ironic that the brand that killed RC freedom with "drones" now can't sell to govt in the USA 🤷‍♂️🙈

[@auckwads8169]

Nail on the head there bruce . We the comunity see the dji in it straight away but they cant say so or it will get blocked from us gov use like dji and defeat the point of using 3 companies as middle men for dji.

[@ChrisCroft77]

If this is a new product from Caddx, there is no way they have not used any of DJI’s IP and they use them into non existence.

[@nishbrown]

I have my own smoke, and mirrors make me look ugly.

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Man I'd be happy with anything better than my mjx or hubsan base model googles

[@duavelittleford1447]

I think DJI will blow all these out the water with there next gen system. It will most likely be full HD.

[@MadRC]

Lol on the phone 😂

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Interesting

[@FlyDreamEcuador]

Nice one

[@jas-FPV]

Hdzero goggles will have analog in ! Afaik

[@slembcke]

Interesting and frustrating. I was HDZero curious now that it's becoming flying season here in the far northern hemisphere. I've been watching availability of HDZero stuff, and it's been hard to get unless I wanted to buy a full set over several months over the winter. (I didn't...) I guess I'll stick with analog for a while longer as I'm quite happy with my Skyzone OLED goggles. :)

[@derrogers]

exactly... I snagged an used hdo2 for cheap for exactly that reason, but hdzero stuff is really hard to get.

[@acevr4]

HD zero is worth the wait, ive managed to get stuff and there is more coming, plus hdzero is capable of more res yet.

[@MrDeathFPV]

Bruce me mate.. I didn't realize I wasn't subbed to this one

[@xymaryai8283]

is it price competitive with HDZero, or is it a higher tier in Fatshark's lineup, and will HDZero be the cheap option? either option is great, because i can either get HDZero for cheaper, or this tech for a bit more and it will beat out HDZero

[@lililililililili8667]

Hopefully all the complainer people buy an HDzero system so I can have another option when the Fatsnail HD I preordered get old and I want an upgrade. I can understand police or firefighting using this type of digital system but what use would the military have for unencrypted video that will compromise the pilots location and surroundings.

[@chubbyfpv5477]

Came here after the bot stream. Who else?

[@changeagent228]

Fatshark cheaped out. Why would I want only 90fps after using 120fps? Also what's with that washed out looking camera making the DJI feed look like 1st gen HDZ? If DJI are bringing out a successor I will wait for that.

[@TimothyLSmith810]

I just want to fly my plane

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

It's DJI...🤣

[@fsarfino]

I was told from a reliable source years ago that the original DJI / Caddx deal came about from a long friendship between CEO's

[@wodifpv644]

I haven't gone digital because i haven't seen anything as small as the tbs nano vtx in digital

[@MRdeLaat]

dee jay ay

[@mrreddog]

I told ya during Ian's livestream a couple weeks ago, HDZero will be nothing more than a fad....

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Good bot plug!

[@bomb_and_gouge]

If DJI is not involved they will sue the s**t out of Caddx, Fat Shark and Walking Snail.

[@pbshooter100]

As of now the pricing for this new FS digital system is comparable to that of DJI. So for me it's not worth the investment. HDZero is at a price point that I can live with but availability has been the thing that has kept me away. So for now I will be going with HDZero and hope that they can gain the critical mass needed to allow them to stay in business.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Sorry, but it doesn't matter about critical mass, etc. It's all about PENETRATION! Go watch JB's car parking garage video. He can't even fly on the 3rd level AT ALL with HDZero because it's much worse at penetration than analog is! Yup, analog can fly, albeit with tons of fuzz, but he can fly on the 3rd level, where HDZero couldn't even take off - no image at all! Of course, DJI could fly at all levels and in all corners of each level - CRYSTAL CLEAR! No distortion at all! It's kinda amazing - I was totally surprised! WwwHhhhhaAaaaaTttttt! That's the biggest difference in DJI and HDZero - try to find a video - most are flown in open fields, and there's no issues flying any system there! But, try to find a video where HDZero has to fly around huge groves of trees and bushes, around a building, wall, through an office building, etc. to see just how terrible it's penetration actually is! It's very bad. That's one of the AWESOME things about DJI - All of a sudden from the first moment you are flying it, new places you didn't dare fly before with analog, are open to you to explore and flying around, in behind, etc. that opens up so much new exploration, both inside and outside in all kinds of places! Now, remember, HDZero isn't as good at that as analog is - so you are even more limited by it's lack of ability to go anywhere behind anything or just around a crop of bushes or trees, or a small building! It's area of clear flying, ERRRR....not a white out, is very limited. Just imagine flying in a 3rd floor in a parking garage and having no degradation in crystal clear HD image quality! It's MIND BLOWING! LOL :0 You can pretty much go anywhere! ;)

[@pbshooter100]

@@KOrnhOliO1 Yea DJI costs too much and I don't fly in parking garages so none of what you say is worth a dam to me. Sorry you wasted your life typing all of this crap

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@pbshooter100 Senor Crap man: Geez, yaaaahh think maybe FPV penetration is good for more than just in parking garages?! Yaright!! And, since an analog VTX and camera aren't needed when you have a Caddx Vista, you can subtract the cost for those from the price of a Vista, making it a lot less money than you might think for digital! Plus, I currently have purchased brand new, 3 DJI BNF quads that each cost less than $177.50...the most expensive quad of the three! So, maybe look around a bit and grab the crap out of good deals some dealers occasionally run the crap out of! OHHHHH, and DJI's great penetration is great for flying behind a crap load of trees, around a crap pack of bushes, behind a crap man full of buildings, a crappy wall, A bunch of crap filled cars, buses, airplanes, taxis, and rockets! Also, craptastic houses, and a stable full of crap dropping horses! All sorts of places you'd never dream of flying yer 2008 tech analog drones! So, no crappy reason needed to reply to this as it would just require you to waste your super important life typing on crappy keys of a keyboard, soooo why the crap bother?! 😝💩💩💩🤬

[@kerrymillar4981]

Dji wants that blood money

[@terminsane]

dominators/avatars are just dji inside. hdzero will march on due to its more open nature, better latency, and compatibility with existing goggles

[@pgabrieli]

sorry, but why would the US military, or any other government agency, be interested AT ALL in a hobby grade product like the walksnail/dominator? 🤣 they certainly can afford more expensive toys than you or me. do you know how much a Black Hornet Nano drone costs?!? 😅as for the reluctance of parts of the FPV community to DJI in general, if FatShark/WalkSnail were really trying to mask the DJI origins of the product, why not just change the user interface? come on, please...

[@pilotz2112]

Don’t care what it is, is it any good is all that matters

[@kerrymillar4981]

It top money if you can build something that will kill somebody

[@JohnnyFaber]

Guess I'm still waiting. Won't buy dji. Ever.

[@blizzardfpv9584]

Is anyone still running analog like me and don't care about digital

[@Jangmo88]

I think it’s just DJI skirting upcoming laws by having a reputable American company continue on without the stigma

[@dr0n3droid]

Greg is Canadian, manufacturing in China, and RedCat isn't exactly "reputable"

[@rolliseventeen]

DJI? No, DJI was only the first customer for this developed system and had it exclusive for 2 years. All other speculations does make no sense any more now from all we saw the last years.

[@FilipRadelic]

So DJI outsourced a video link system that's based on DJI's previous technology? To a company that couldn't even make an analog camera without dust on its sensor? Good one! 😂

[@rolliseventeen]

@@FilipRadelic who can say for sure it was a DJI system? we can only see the labeled brand on it. DJI is the market leader and the brand has also top marketing to sell products. that means not, that they developed all the technical stuff they sell! contract development is usual in IT business and thats what DJI is in.

[@FilipRadelic]

@@rolliseventeen there's infinite amounts of evidence in the firmware. And the whole system uses exact same hardware components you can see in Mavic and other DJI products.

[@odyss160]

I'm irritated at the fact this mostly open hobby is starting to become divided in closed ecosystems. Say goodbye to the days your vyx didn't matter what did matter was your goggles and how well they worked for you. Now you have to choose a system and stick with them or spend way to much money to have them all and carry 7 different goggles for 7 different systems. We want options but not at the expense of our fleets. Hdzero, I'm rooting heavily for you to shine on top, the one to rule them all because you'll be the one who willeet the majority of our needs. You're open to us and hold no secrets.

[@chickwithstick7695]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@nwfpv8681]

Dude. If orqa just used dji digital tech instead of developing their own system, I’d be really disappointed in them.

[@ZED-PV]

Can you even call it fatshark when fatshark has no idea what's inside?

[@ammochief]

Never buy DJI. Will wait to see if Fatshark is reliable. For park flying, analogue is fine and much cheaper

[@steve_beatty]

redcat/fatshart/caddx/dji/walksnail/avatar .....

[@brettnaysmith3949]

Hi Bruce, what's an email address I can contact you on