Fault finding on a shower circuit. Disconnected and walked away.

[@jimmybradshaw7315]

Another great video! Watched almost every video of yours on KZbin, absolutely love them! Thanks for the great tips and tricks & showing the world the proper way to do electrics - keep up the good work 👍

[@beckhamotis6349]

I guess Im asking the wrong place but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost the password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!

[@beckhamotis6349]

@Zev Saint I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@callumrowley2203]

not sure if rules are different up here in scotland but alkaline battery backup can only be used on private dwellings any rented/hmo or social housing etc has to have 10 year lithium sealed unit I've moved to the aico 3000 series and love them.

[@Flat2Rent]

Its not boring i like seeing the second fixing! Keep them coming

[@pauldavies9709]

Impressive attention to detail and going the extra mile. You're easily in the top 1% of sparks in the country.

[@Tisapery]

He's not gonna suck you off mate

[@Tisapery]

He's not gonna suck you off mate

[@burtshere]

Watch out for expansion and contraction of the tongue and groove timber you fixed the isolator too. You can get ~5mm movement across two boards between wet and dry states (but maybe this is composite cladding - can't quite tell in the video). Thanks for the vids, enjoy watching someone take pride in their work.

[@leebutterworth7465]

Hi Chris great video as usual just a tiny point when installing the smoke detectors you shouldn't be sleeving the black wire with brown sleeve its only a communication/interlink wire sending a low voltage through to the other detectors

[@Chocolatestarfish1]

That's not what the aico user manual says!

[@leebutterworth7465]

Will Robinson it’s a extra low voltage interconnecting communication wire that doesn’t carry 230volt and only carry’s a voltage on operation of the test button or after an alarm activation

[@leebutterworth7465]

Will Robinson which page of the aico electrical contractors handbook does it tell you to sleeve the black core, I’ve got the handbook open here and non from page 102 show any sleeving

[@Cjrelectrical]

Hi lee Not sure what literature your reading but your wrong. I’ve got it in black and white in front of me.

[@Chocolatestarfish1]

@@leebutterworth7465 page 25 of the user manual. "Must be treated as live. Insulated and sheathed" which I take as sleeving....

[@1499cally]

As someone who works in IT it makes me happy you don’t put the cable next to the data cables. I’ve seen so many people put them together and it makes me want to cry. Keep up the good work, long time sub and always drop a like.. I just don’t comment often.

[@florisvdk]

Why, Ethernet is a differential current signal. You have to have a lot of interference to have any corrupted packets.

[@timearp8185]

In a residential setting its unlikely that it would cause noticeable interference but, better to keep it seperate.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

@@florisvdk AC Cable carries a LOT of Amperage compared to Data Cable which creates a comparatively HUGE Electromagnetic Field which in turn creates a lot of unnecessary Noise/Voltage/Current in the Data Cable - bad for high-speed Data transfer (high Noise) and VERY bad for the Electronics sending/receiving that Data (high Voltage/Current). Every Electrical Code I'm familiar with requires a certain amount of separation between High Current Cables and Data Cables for just that reason... They also require a separation between High Voltage Cables and Low Voltage Cables to prevent excessive Currents being Induced in the Low Voltage Cables (under the wrong circumstances, a 120/240 Volt Cable can Induce 40+ Volt Currents in a Circuit designed for a Max. of 12 Volts...Not a good thing for 12 Volt equipment (such as most Smart Home Controls) to suddenly get 40+ Volts through them...

[@Daniells1982]

The regs require separation of band I and band II anyway, so it should be done regardless of whether it has an big impact on the data or not.

[@dasy2k1]

Yeh the worst data issue I have had was with a cat5e UTP cable that ran in a lift shaft (office building) every time the lift moved the link dropped out... Replaced cable with FTP and it was fine

[@labelectrical]

Got a bit worried for a while that we wouldn't get any 'sock action'. Great vid....keep them coming.

[@Darkassassin09]

Always makes me laugh when we're unceremoniously dropped on our face

[@thomasbambridge6974]

Type ac rcd might be inappropriate for the installation ? That’s why it didn’t trip under load . I’m not criticising, just saying if it’s a smart home and a lot of dc current ?

[@caffeine9317]

Easier to just install type A RCBOs, impossible to predict expected dc leakage

[@grahamlush7140]

I’d completely agree. Type A all the way! And it might even have to be C curve

[@Ragnar8504]

Are you happy with the Wiha SoftFinish screwdrivers? I've used Wera for quite a while and when they started wearing out I thought I'd try Wiha but I'm not really happy with them. The handles, especially the smaller sizes, just feel too small for my hands to hold them comfortably! Might get another set of Weras.

[@dc-sd3gd]

Watched an aico presentstio and apparently you dont need to sleeve the black as its only 16v dc so its not a live conductor. Still good vid matey👍👍👍

[@cocoino2307]

its a control cable so yeah

[@donzotv1667]

so let me get this right.. you make an observation about the maximum demand of the board.. should you not have connected another 16Amp Circuit to it?.. just my observation..

[@caffeine9317]

How come you didnt do 5 tests on your RCD? 1/2, 1x at 0 and 180 and 5x at 0 and 180? I know you only record your highest 5x for a final circuit but does your tester do both tests at 5x in one operation? Or did you exclude the running up and down the stairs just?

[@ef7480]

have a guess...

[@rowles13]

Thank you for another great imformitive video.love the testing.👍

[@rubbersteve123]

Great video as usual, love the shower switch!

[@ForTheBirbs]

I would never choose to fit ionization detectors any more. They claim to pick up smouldering fires but in lab tests they are very unreliable

[@haydenuk02]

Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care

[@eleftheria1463]

I have the same AC installed and it looks like the same people installed it. Are you in the midlands by any chance?

[@hahe123456789]

Have you considered using a go pro fitted to your head to free up your hands? It would give us a better POV too. Great videos btw 👍

[@Cjrelectrical]

Yeah I’ve got that setup just takes a while to setup and get right

[@dlongltdful]

15.01 Any DC fault current from the new Aircon unit will blind the type AC RCD in the MK board, looks reasonable to me the Aircon unit could have gone on the non RCD side, just a thought. As for fitting Aico smokes with replaceable batteries isn't so it's easier for the customer, it's because it's cheaper than fitting lithium for you, everyone loves a bleeping smoke alarm at 3am!

[@simonabbott7323]

The vast majority of boards in the country have CPDs that exceed the value of the main switch. You have to apply diversity. And what about the value of the DNO's incoming fuse? Maybe they could have mixed up lighting and "power" circuits a bit more. I was taught that you should always test an RCD in isolation, IE switch off all MCB's and disconnect all N's before testing. You're brave working in your socks.....

[@SME_Ste]

Simon Abbott for instance an 18 way 3 phase db thats loaded with single phase circuits, with only an 125 amp main switch. Some don’t or won’t trust good old diversity, thats the problem🤔

[@caffeine9317]

Selectivity? 🙄

[@toddbod94]

@@caffeine9317 they are different things.

[@hartleymclaren3210]

Good video. For what’s it worth I have a pair of inside trainers and a pair of go to van boots. Wouldn’t walk around in my socks in some of the houses I go in to, no idea what’s been on the floor.

[@daverossy]

The fireangel ones aren’t bad but it’s cheeky that you need to spend another £3 to get the proper push fit base that actually accommodates wiring, they base they come with is pointless

[@eamonnblake9704]

I wonder will there ever come a time where you arrive onto an installation and the pervious work done there will actually be good🤔🤣😂

[@stevieb2475]

Chris does this mean all previous CP Fusebox c/w SPD need to be revisited to fit a MCB

[@Cjrelectrical]

Nope they just don’t want to rely on the dno fuse anymore

[@stevieb2475]

Cheers 👍

[@colin8549]

Don’t suppose anyone has a link for the info/instruction sheets that document this change in stance please? I’ve tried to find it and can’t, does add further fuel to the do you don’t you debate surrounding OCPD with SPD...🤔

[@mbelkadi7936]

Question, why u don’t use box cutter for sockets, thus is what I use save time and cleaner

[@mixit2413]

Aico doesn't make ionization alarms anymore also if the house is to be rented you have to fit Aico 3000 range or equivalent.

[@MrDamodee]

Two things, is working just in socks safe and i can agree with the heat as i did the same in my new build and I nearly passed out!

[@Daniells1982]

Seen so many shower switches like that. Scary really. I was wondering, in the property with the RCD that wouldn't trip, was it an AC type? Wonder if all the smart products have a DC component that's caused the RCD not to trip? Just a thought.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Why do the RCBO's get so hot? Doesn't seem to make any sense. We use just about all AFCI's for each breaker in the US and combo AFCI/GFCI's. Very few breakers aren't some sort of *FCI's anymore. There are 40 of them all packed in together.

[@timdavison640]

Hi Chris great video what app are you using for test certs and how does that link for your nic eic

[@leebutterworth7465]

Hi thats iCertifi software I’ve been using it for the last five years very good software for use with iPhone and iPad

[@michaelholliday100]

In the US we do not remove the dust cover from Smoke or Carbon Monoxide Detector until absolutely all painting is completed... Love your videos...

[@havoctrousers]

Those starbreaker boards are brilliant, no faffing around having to remove the busbar from every breaker. What was going on with that shower cable route?

[@Daniells1982]

I wonder why no other manufacturer has followed this design? So much safer when there are spare ways too, especially if using those clip in blanks that always seem to magically disappear leaving exposed busbar.

[@dasy2k1]

@@Daniells1982 mainly because I think it's patented by crabtree

[@therandomking1265]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Why have you used screw caps. Why, just why?

[@jaktuck9109]

Worst invention known to a spark

[@alexdougherty4905]

Tool of the devil 😈

[@BenCos2018]

agreed on that

[@CrazySparkie63]

Or as David Savery calls them "Buggerlugs" lol!

[@cprfenom]

Where the hell does this gap between RCBOs come from? Sure I understand contactors, but RCBOS seems a bit extreme and an odd way to force bigger boards...

[@SME_Ste]

Chris Reed its a load of bollocks mate. Every protective device gets warm when loaded near to its rating for long periods. Its even mentioned in manufacturers instructions and always has been. Cant see why everyones getting lobons over it lately.

[@colin8549]

Forgive me if I’m wrong here, just a trainee, but does it come from the CU instructions? “Adjacent thermal-magnetic MCB’s should not be continuously loaded at their nominated rated currents when mounted in enclosures. We recommend a 60% de-rating factor is applied to theMCB’s nominal current where it is intended to load MCB’s continuously .” 🤷🏼‍♂️❓

[@affy675]

This seems utter bollocks to me. Look at 3 phase db’s usually loaded full of rcbos there is never a problem with overheating.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Not over heating which is the problem it’s just to prolong the life of the expensive rcbos they are 5-6times more expensive than mcbs

[@HEDST8]

Whats one of them houses? Like some one hiding ?

[@gr328]

Do you wear those blue covers in the shower ;-)

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job

[@Mrfort]

No crawler board in the loft space?

[@doubledaddy2006]

Much better to use a flexible cored cable rather than solid drawn twin and earth for vibrating machinery such as an air con unit. Testing RCDs at the RCD terminals with loads removed is the correct way to test RCDs and much less problematic.

[@j0nA82]

Thats also how I've always done rcd testing, it amazes me how many people don't know that. I worked with a guy who thought the brand new Schneider rcbos were faulty. They tested out fine when the load was disconnected.

[@jonesconrad1]

I do like the ferrals on the end.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

Mega is a big step up from a kewtech. The bloody kewtech's are so slow! Not yours mind you because you upgraded but I found the older cheaper model to be very slow in displaying a result.

[@imark7777777]

I hope none of that's live at 22:00. that's what those hot sticks are handy for .... a sanity check!

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@fatpedro5588]

What torque screwdriver set is that your using at the end of this video Chris?

[@Jay369]

Looks like a Draper.

[@tent7014]

Chris, you gonna got a Tesla car like Jordan at Artisan electrics ??

[@stephenwilshaw3052]

Chris, don't work in socks mate - especially in a loft. Splendid socks though!!

[@ColinDH12345]

I guess if you add up all the MCB/RCBO's in any house, you may get more than the switch is rated for. What about diversity?

[@tomorichard]

Ain’t that the truth 👍

[@Benzknees]

You mean you should get switches that are polarity neutral, rainbow coloured, and like to swing both ways?

[@mattthompson8657]

Plus the suppliers fuse is providing overload protection of 100A or less. Not sure what he's got an issue with tbh.

[@HereForTheMusic-h5o]

The problem is that there are 2 boards, one with the low current circuits and one with the high... Ideally, I would like to see the circuits spread equally across the two 60947-3 100A main switches to decrease the strain on each of them...

[@whatevernamegoeshere3644]

@@mattthompson8657 "Not sure what he's got an issue with tbh." Well if he fucks the main fuse, good luck getting that back in business any time soon. You would have to call the provider and wait for ages

[@cjkokay]

I don't take my footwear fir client now as it is a safety hazard. If you need clean the add booties to your kit.

[@farmerdave7965]

How come U.K. electricians never have tall enough step ladders ?

[@peterg.8245]

Tiny trucks because there’s nowhere to park and shorter ceilings in older dwellings. Come into my American home with 10ft ceilings and 36” front door that was built in the last decade. JK my 1969 ranch only has 9ft ceilings. My sister’s 1970 ranch has a 42” front door though with a glass storm door from the previous owner who I guess may have been wheelchair bound. It had the thickest pink carpet was like walking through sand.

[@paulf2529]

I'm surprised not many folk use hop ups, I find a youngman hop up does most jobs and a 8 step step ladder the rest.

[@bartman58]

@@peterg.8245 we use metric 🤷‍♂️

[@bartman58]

@@peterg.8245 most older Victorian properties in the uk would have 9/10 ft ceilings.....why are we talking about pink carpets😂😂

[@BezosAutomaticEye]

1:09. Headphones beware :)

[@grahamlush7140]

Are you allowed wire appliances with those SWA core colours? We’d be made rip it all out and 2 points put against your company!! Irish contractor ☘️

[@cooper512]

As long as you identify them with sleeving it's fine. Come to think of it I think they only sell SWA in those colours here

[@grahamlush7140]

Jesus your so lucky. If our inspectors caught you not using the correct colours you’d be told to rip it out and re-install at your own expense and hassle!! They’d also black mark you and issue with penalty points. Some of them are real pieces of work, out to help no one!

[@leeocallaghan3507]

i would have gone the full length of the wall with the trunking nothing worse than it stops short half way on the wall but that’s just my preference good job though

[@Cjrelectrical]

I agree totally mate but it’s temporary

[@ShadowzGSD]

aico detectors are the best, i had the battery fireangel ones temporary and one of them caught fire.

[@peterpeterson9903]

Irony!

[@paultipton743]

You're not supposed to use a naked flame to test them🤣

[@_Steven_S]

Lived up to their name 😋

[@andrewdonagher6497]

Enjoyed the video our company only use the EI Smokie there a great job never any issues or call backs with them

[@TBL_stevennelson]

Nice Spider-man

[@damonbtc9701]

U can tell when ppl get pprs..and...17th boys need amended so much

[@discomonkey3492]

I used to use a Yankee screw driver for ceiling roses back in the 80s

[@thomasbambridge6974]

Yankee screwdrivers , I remember them 😂

[@discomonkey3492]

@@thomasbambridge6974 Still got mine in my tool box

[@xylo66]

Still got mine and various bits too ! Works well still.

[@Daniells1982]

I bought one about 18 year ago. Think they still manufacturer them.

[@kieranmchugh5299]

9 or 10 adverts in a 28 minute video? Bit too much in my view. I have no problem with ads - Its the nature of the beast - I just feel that's a bit excessive. Love the content by the way. 👍

[@Cjrelectrical]

All placed by youtube I might ad

[@mattysmethurst5946]

Scroll video to the end. Play for s second. Then rewind back to start. No ads 😉

[@kieranmchugh5299]

@@Cjrelectrical I see what you did there... Nice use of ad... 😉 Thanks for reply. I thought it was more than usual that was all as I was under the impression the content creator chose amount of ads as some only have start and end or start middle end etc. Seems a bit unfair if you've no control over how much ads appear one video to the next.. 🤔👍

[@kieranmchugh5299]

@@mattysmethurst5946 Top Tip mate... Cheers for that. 👍

[@ashleynery8092]

instead of using .com/watch use .com./watch if you want want to use ublock

[@Thelectrical]

The fact that the RCD failed the initial test means exactly that. It has failed and needs replacing. It’s no longer reliable

[@muzikman2008]

Correct, I failed many MK RCD's for that exact reason. The mechanism lubricant dries out and they become unreliable after a few years.

[@damonbtc9701]

Domt scrimp on the smokies

[@Mark-ij2nh]

Wheres your screwdriver from?

[@kgfgfg1]

Wiha

[@r1ckySV]

screw driver with torque settings.....sexy!

[@marcberm]

Well it is pride month after all, so the socks seem fitting! 🌈🙂🏳‍🌈

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks

[@supersparks9466]

I've had some of those a.c. unit require c type mcbs

[@tobydwyer5602]

What happened at 4:27?

[@benh1216]

Radio on. Doesn't want to get copyright striked I presume! :)

[@totalsnooker]

Why so many adverts

[@bluerizlagirl]

It takes 70 watts for one minute to make 1 litre of water one degree hotter. That's just a physical property of water. Any kind of water heating device necessarily has to have a lot of energy going through it, precisely because it takes 4200J to make 1kg. of water 1°C hotter. If we are going to see more electric heating systems in use in years to come, there will have to be suitable requirements to ensure safety, balanced against the need not to create a closed shop / protection racket. The use of a torque setting screwdriver is nice. Forcing everyone to use a specific tool only one company (run by an MP's brother in law) makes but deeming any job done using that tool utterly beyond reproach, is not so nice .....

[@Ragnar8504]

I suspect with more electric heating you might either see American-sized tails or - more reasonable in my eyes - domestic three-phase like in much of central Europe. While some countries (like France) have gone from three-phase to single-phase, quite a few others are going quite the opposite way, phasing out single-phase supplies. I think in Austria there's but one DNO left that even offers single-phase supplies! Three-pole bus bars for regular RCDs and MCBs are off-the-shelf parts here so whether a DB is single or three-phase only depends on the components you put in. All enclosures are rated for 230/400 V by the manufacturer.

[@bluerizlagirl]

@@Ragnar8504 Three-phase in the home is an interesting idea. Most residential streets in the UK are wired so one house gets the red phase, the next gets the yellow, the one after that gets the blue and so on. There must be a lot of people who won't be used to the concept of three-phase supplies. "Well, that one is live, and that one is live, so whatever either one or the other of them is connected to is also live, so it can't hurt to connect them together, can it? Live's live, isn't it, they must both be connected together somehow somewhere upstream ....." No doubt there will be a few interesting videos around here .....

[@samcarter469]

Question..... why are you always just working in socks? where is your safety boots dude...

[@damonbtc9701]

Can i apologise?space fullstop

[@andyhawkes3335]

8.5 shower is fine on 6 mm

[@HereForTheMusic-h5o]

Your Instagram dead?

[@deanocallan]

I love this channel but the amount of ads in these vids now are unbearable.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Run an ad blocker

[@arthurdaley895]

Skip to the end of any video with ads. Replay. Ads are gone. You're welcome. Doing gods work here. Peace and love.

[@hassanalsudanialkindy8680]

عمل ممتاز احسنت عاشت يدك. ونتمنى في العراق ان نلقى المواد الكهربائية الانكليزية الأصلية مثل ال mk وال Crabtree

[@guffermeister]

Don't forget the cable grouping in the trunking - no one cares, but in theory it could be a de-rate....

[@supersparks9466]

Same with some of the overly pretty boards everyone keeps posting, cables ties together in bunches with no consideration to grouping factors.

[@Daniells1982]

I was working in our local library once. Took the lid off a steel trunking with singles inside. The singles fell out in a block and were stuck together. The trunking was acting like a radiator and you could feel warm air getting pushed out the top of the trunking even with the lid on. Grouping is a real thing, this was the first and only time I've experienced this.

[@sivalley]

That condenser. . . Mongrels installed it with next to no service clearance!

[@Mark-ij2nh]

Sorry but insulation resistance test should be done at the board and measured between live and cpc live and neutral and neutral and cpc and it shpuld ve greater than >1000

[@dannybeaumont8997]

Greater than >1000? Well that depends on the meter and test current. Got to be careful around fixed leds and certain equipment.

[@alexdougherty4905]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Daniells1982]

Talking dog shit mate. We're talking megohms, millions of ohms. 299 megohms is the max some meters go up to and far surpasses the minimum insulation of 1 megohm. Anything under 2 megohm should be investigated when testing at 500V. No idea what this 1000 is you're on about.

[@paultipton743]

When I did my 17th edition amendment 3( yes I have done the 18th since) the college lecturer said we should test IR from both the consumer unit and the end sides

[@29b25]

Cleated

[@G7OEA]

8 midroll ads. That one ever 3 1/2 to 4 min. That is just money grabbing. That has earned a do not suggest this channel and I'll also exit the platform at this point. If you don't how the KZbin algorithm works that's a red flag as the video has not engages me.

[@Cjrelectrical]

Bye bye

[@MrSJT]

Dude keep your shoes on, health and safety and all that.... Get some shoe coverings or cheap shoes for homes wear they don't allow you to wear shoes, less than £10

[@Daniells1982]

I think he should invest in some crocs. Crocs n fancy socks.

[@mitchellcannon4196]

To many ads

[@cms4467]

You want to go watch a certain someone else’s videos there are more ads in some than there is content

[@Cjrelectrical]

Really il give youtube a call tomorrow

[@cms4467]

CJR ELECTRICAL I didn’t have any...

[@damonbtc9701]

Hard wiring is a rhing of rhe past lithium life and rf is s3xy ad foolk

[@dg2908]

Those massive boards are garbage. Even with diversity... & If they paid 100k to get the house wired in 2015 it should have had RCBOs