Why Canada Doesn’t Care About These Towns

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@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
Let us know the longest train journey you have ever been on and what it was like? 👀🚂
@VeryMachoNachos
@VeryMachoNachos 2 жыл бұрын
18 hours from Munich to Stockholm! They had a sleeper cabin though, unlike this TRT/QNSL line :)
@KyleRoth
@KyleRoth 2 жыл бұрын
36 hours from Green River, Utah, to Chicago!
@tec2107
@tec2107 2 жыл бұрын
Hamburg to Basel, I booked it 1 month ahead and got a deal on a 1. Class ticket for 79€. the most relaxed travel experience I ever had
@tyren818
@tyren818 2 жыл бұрын
The Canadien from edmonton to toronto, 64 hours
@StuffWePlay
@StuffWePlay 2 жыл бұрын
Houston to Alpine, TX! Nearly 20 hours thanks to being repeatedly sidetracked by long American freight trains!
@masterseems8005
@masterseems8005 2 жыл бұрын
My niece is a school teacher in Schefferville & has been there for 5 yrs. She is originally from the Eastern Townships, Quebec & speaks English, French & the two main Innu languages of Northern Quebec. She regularly takes the train down to Sept Iles in order to meet up with family & friends who live even further south. Non natives may find a 14 hr. train ride something to be endured. The Innu in Schefferville & up & down the line view it as a way to connect with their friends & family so these train rides are more of a social occasion. The Innu now own the railway & the tracks & also Air Inuit so no one is stuck up there. The Canadian Govt. doesn't ignore these people, but simply allows them to run their own affairs which they do very competently. Most of them don't want govt. meddling in their affairs anyway. So just because they don't live like the rest of us do, who is to say their way of life is not a good one. The Brit who made this video has forgotten one very important thing & that is many native peoples are not poor, run their own affairs & want to keep a more traditional way of life.
@JB-yb4wn
@JB-yb4wn 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I would also add that giving the railway a $44 million dollar loan is not neglect.
@blurefr
@blurefr 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of native American tribes, if not all, are more than happy to do everything themselves, and in the US most even have the ability to set their own laws. It's not neglect, it's what they want.
@erictremblay4940
@erictremblay4940 2 жыл бұрын
Bien dit!!
@henryostman5740
@henryostman5740 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet that not having 5G internet services is not at the top of their problem list either, not having access to medical care in emergencies probably is.
@tomaytotamaato
@tomaytotamaato 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the native peoples who have a can do attitude in these harsh locations.
@aldore6220
@aldore6220 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian that use to live in Northern Quebec, not as far north as Schefferville. I appreciate you making this video shining a light on the story of people that reside in Northern Canada. Also impressed how you were able to say Sept-Îles properly. 👏
@Hamsteak
@Hamsteak 2 жыл бұрын
I can say that it's pretty sad how neglected Northern Canada. I'm from Southern Ontario, but lived across Canada growing up. The country and Provinces need to put more effort into building up our North. Especially cause Canadians and our Sovereignty depends on it.
@aldore6220
@aldore6220 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hamsteak so true 👍
@MrEpicLeaf
@MrEpicLeaf 2 жыл бұрын
I live like 58 degrees north
@craighobbs3708
@craighobbs3708 2 жыл бұрын
He says it with a Quebec accent!
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 2 жыл бұрын
Whats incredible when you see the map is how far east eastern Canada is
@MaltGambit
@MaltGambit 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Labrador City and briefly worked for QNS&L, weird seeing it discussed by someone from across the pond lol. The old fella cutting cake at 2:54 was a good friend and neighbour of my father and the longest-working employee of IOC at 52 years. He started working in Schefferville in the late 50s and later moved to Lab City, he sadly passed away some years ago at age 75....his name was Jean Goulet.
@getataste
@getataste 2 жыл бұрын
bon vieux jean goulet
@adaptercrash
@adaptercrash 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah city police they come here just to make it worse
@vanana2
@vanana2 2 жыл бұрын
I also grew up in Lab City!
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens to mining towns: once the mineral deposits are mined out, they die unless some other economic base can be established. British Columbia has numerous "ghost towns" that have either been completely abandoned or have a fraction of their peak populations. These once bustling communities were not all in the northern part of the province either.
@pierreolive
@pierreolive Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! You forgot to mention the regular air service. I’m a flight attendant at Air Inuit, and we operate multiple weekly flights to Schefferville from Montreal via Quebec City and Sept Iles. People from the town can travel to Sept Iles in just over an hour, or make it all the way down to Montreal in an afternoon. Airlines are a huge contributor to the survival of small communities, but perhaps Schefferville’s case is more interesting and unique due to the unusual nature of Canadian passenger railways. Looking forward to flying back already!
@ryanpugh
@ryanpugh 2 жыл бұрын
Air Inuit flies from Sept Iles' regional airport to Schefferville at least twice a week. It's definitely not cheap, but if you need to get there quickly, it's the way to go. Schefferville is not quite as isolated as the video would lead you to believe. Tata Steel operates near town and another major operation, Joyce Lake, is going through environmental assessment. It's only going to get busier.
@FightSceneFilmSchool
@FightSceneFilmSchool 2 жыл бұрын
A doctor friend of mine recently volunteered in Northern Ontario and the town was only accessible by small plane. There are a lot of places like that in Canada - I was surprised trains were even an option for Schefferville. 🙂 Keep up the good work!
@avamc4089
@avamc4089 2 жыл бұрын
I know! I lives in Labrador and we have to either fly by plane to go somewhere
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 Жыл бұрын
It's gonna save Schefferville an _absolute_ fortune in the long run. It sounds like it's already cheaper than airtravel per-person and I guarantee it's way cheaper per-ton of cargo. Price per-person and per-ton is only going to down with every trip and train added to the line. Don't forget about the effect of cheaper freight, that translates into cheaper material and cheaper equipment. Which means cheaper infrastructure, cheaper and more amenities, less people moving out/more people moving in. If the local governments manage it right and don't get greedy, this can easily snowball into a huge economic and life enriching opportunity for everyone. A true win-win for everyone.
@ryleygemmill9573
@ryleygemmill9573 Жыл бұрын
Yep and winters like this are even rougher on them as they normally have some ice roads to get to places but its been very mild this year
@BCATC.250r
@BCATC.250r 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian who lives in the BC North I can say this is more common than you think. Cambridge Columbia there are so many secluded little villages that don't even have roads to them you have to take ATVs or boats or airplanes to get to them there's secluded little villages that have religious people in their beliefs hidden away from the public. Along the Alaskan highway you'll see a lot of things like this
@midbc1midbc199
@midbc1midbc199 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's kinda creepy being out in the bush miles from town riding quads and come across some hidden squatters paradise......I reported them to the environment dudes so they could go and assess the toxic waste dump the bush tweakers had brewing......their hidden haven had a slop trench just full of human excrement and all sorts of chemicals from cooking up their junk.......the whole area was covered in trash so bad I was amazed that it wasn't reported already from planes flying overhead since an airport is directly across the river valley
@1st1anarkissed
@1st1anarkissed Жыл бұрын
Saskatchewan too, tons if fly-in only towns, towns with only winter roads, and massive journeys to travel what ought to be short distance. Building roads is more than clearing ttrees and building a causeway because the land is frozen marsh on bedrock. The rock must be blasted, and the marsh is nearly impossible to stabilize. Russians have some new methods they're trying which mugh make it possible. Then the land is dotted with thousands of lakes. It's lake, marsh, rocky hill, marsh, lake. In winter they use the lakes to make a road in. In summer, they land on the water.
@sagefaribole
@sagefaribole 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I've lived in Canada since 2015 and had no idea about Scherfferville and this train line operated by indigenous folks! It's important to shine a light on this ❤
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
A group of 11 Brits from London England did the railway line to Schefferville. Superb railway.
@Hamsteak
@Hamsteak 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this rail line existed and I'm a Canadian geography nerd. Thanks for the video
@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
@@Faultlinevideos Well done sir 👏 ...... Beatle fact george harrisons sister & her husband lived in north quebec ( & Ontario) working for the mining indilustry .
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
I have travelled over every railroad in Canada (except Churchill), including Schefferville, Carcross Yukon, Senneterre, Jonquiere, Toronto, yes Toronto to Moosonee, Calgary, etc. including heritage lines, Skytrain, West Coast Express, Rocky Mountaineer, VIA, GO, AMT, AMTRAK, Credit Valley Explorer, Hull Chelsea Wakefield, South Simcoe, St Jacobs Waterloo, Chute Montmorency to Le Malbaie, and I am a Brit from London England ! Only took me 7 visits. Canada is so small.... Cleared all railways Britain, Ireland, Norway, Portugal, Isle of Man, and most of Europe as far as the Ukraine. Done all five railways in Alaska, and bits of the Lower 48 too.
@hbowman108
@hbowman108 Жыл бұрын
Fermont, another small town in the area, is famous because about a third of its approximately 2,500 residents live in one building, which contains stores, offices, and an indoor swimming pool, and functions as a windbreak shielding the rest of the town from blowing snow.
@BensTakeYT
@BensTakeYT 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love what you guys have been doing.
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 Жыл бұрын
As an Ontarian who has driven much of Canada, I've often wondered about the remote towns in Ontario and Quebec far to the north. What a perfect video!
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 Жыл бұрын
@言行一致 intéressant! Can I ask why your name is in Chinese, you respond in French but your profile is in Russian? You must speak a lot of languages :D
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson 2 жыл бұрын
You went from 7k subscribers to 27k in about a month. Wow, you guys are growing fast! I said in the last video that’ll when you crossed 20k that you will hit 100k by Dec 31 and it looks like you will!
@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
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@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson 2 жыл бұрын
@@Faultlinevideos in 7 days since your last video, you gained 7k subscribers. Do exactly that per week and you will pass 100k by in Jan. But you’re growth will increase with these quality videos and as algorithm helps you so 100k by Dec 31 will happened!
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I used to travel frequently from Switzerland to Eastern part of Canada for private and business reasons, a region and people I like. And had several discussions on railway, public transports with local "experts" - to understand that even those "experts" do not understand what the advantages of a railway network could be for Canada. Friends of mine from Switzerland - railway fans - have travelled by train to Churchill years ago. Maybe I try to use the train to Shefferville on a future trip to Québec.
@RamPMonyPers
@RamPMonyPers 2 жыл бұрын
@@supmdude1527 While Jean-Emmanuel Rotzetter, i.e., the guy from Switzerland might not fully fathom the scale of difficulty between running a rail network in a small country vs. a very large one, as a Swiss, he would very well be aware of what thawing and frosting cycles do to rail lines. Switzerland is a cold and mountainous country, often under snow.
@martins.2502
@martins.2502 2 жыл бұрын
@@RamPMonyPers The coldest ever reported temperature in Switzerland was -41.8° C. These temperatures are a regular occurrence in communities like Schererville with the coldest recorded temperature in the town itself being -50.6°C with average low temperature in January being -29.8°C. Winters in Canadian northern communities are not comparable to Switzerland whatsoever. There's also the issue of size. The area of the province of Quebec is 1.668 million square km. The entirety of Switzerland is only 41,285 square km. The large size and sparse population makes it prohibitively expensive to building anything in northern communities. Switzerland and Canada are not comparable.
@RamPMonyPers
@RamPMonyPers 2 жыл бұрын
@@martins.2502 I did say there was the issue of size. However, even if Scheferville is much colder, by your own statistics, Switzerland can indeed get very cold. So it's not as if Swiss railways don't have to deal with their own icy cold weather issues. In Scheferville, those same issues are just magnified, but it certainly can't mean that Swiss rail engineers have no technical expertise on them.
@RamPMonyPers
@RamPMonyPers 2 жыл бұрын
@@supmdude1527 I am not overlooking that point. I was just replying to Martin's comment, where he is presupposing that the Swiss cannot understand the situation in Schefferville just because it isn't cold enough in Switzerland! That's all.
@RamPMonyPers
@RamPMonyPers 2 жыл бұрын
@@supmdude1527 Point accepted.
@awesomejacketdude
@awesomejacketdude 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video about this "Forgotten Canadian Town" 🤔🤔🤔 Great job man. 👍👍👍
@arrjay2410
@arrjay2410 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My parents met in Schefferville and got married in 1961 (I turned up, soon afterward). My Father got laid off from his job as a Dispatcher around the same time, and they left - never to go back. I do have some photos my father took from that time, but not much else.
@pugetsound1272
@pugetsound1272 2 жыл бұрын
You are one of the few people who can say that they are from Schefferville
@j.f.7509
@j.f.7509 4 ай бұрын
Almost the same for me 😃
@haroeneissa790
@haroeneissa790 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair. You can't really expect the Canadian government to spend millions of dollars on a really long nationalised railway that leads to a town of only 200 people. That wouldn't be fair against the taxpayers in the rest of Canada. Imagine your government announcing that they are gonna spend 30 million on a single apartment block every year. That wouldn't be in proportion compared to the value of the property.
@katherinegilks3880
@katherinegilks3880 2 жыл бұрын
We do it all of the time. The survival of the country depends on it.
@katherinegilks3880
@katherinegilks3880 2 жыл бұрын
This is not an isolated case by far. This is actually quite accessible and close to major centres by Canadian standards.
@tylerkriesel8590
@tylerkriesel8590 2 жыл бұрын
@@katherinegilks3880 “survival of the country”
@johncorey7408
@johncorey7408 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me How did you get those distances? It's about 500km overland to Sept Iles...not to mention you can't drive there from well, anywhere as there are no roads. The flight distance to QC is about 950 km- not 3000.
@nickkttucker
@nickkttucker 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo y’all are really leveling up with this kind of content, love the smaller scale but still super important and interesting stories centered around geography!
@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! Glad your also into the smaller scale stories. We hope we can cover a wide variety of big and small topics in the future if people are into it
@revinhatol
@revinhatol 2 жыл бұрын
Northeastern Quebec and Western Labrador sure are overlooked places to explore in Canada, I for one salute those small wonders!
@FoRm4t123
@FoRm4t123 2 жыл бұрын
Quebecer here. Schefferville like other similar town in norther Canada and Quebec only exist because of they industries needed a place to house the workers of the mines they were never meant to become permanent settlements. When the Mine close they have no reason to exist anymore. For some reason stubborn people decide to stay and complain their shit town is dead and everything is expansive.
@lioneldemun6033
@lioneldemun6033 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : Montreal and Quebec are at the same latitude as Central Europe and further South as Britain!
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
But alot cooler in temperature & fun.
@lucasaccount573
@lucasaccount573 2 жыл бұрын
There’s multiple trains like this in Canada, not just the TRT. The Polar Bear Express, the train to Churchill or now the train on the old ACR.
@troutcloud
@troutcloud 2 жыл бұрын
So true. And the train on the old ACR doesn't even run anymore, just the tourist excursion in the fall that runs from Sault Ste. Marie to the Agawa Canyon.
@Dexter037S4
@Dexter037S4 8 ай бұрын
@@troutcloudThe new Agawa Canyon Railway (owned by Watco) has been in talks with Doug Ford to get the same deal the Ontario Northland got to restart the Northlander (brand new VIA equipment), but those talks failed
@AmenDuggal
@AmenDuggal 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video by the Faultline Team! As a fellow creative, I loved the use of the physical and digital maps. Maybe il give that a try haha!
@totallyleftfield
@totallyleftfield 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I truly appreciate it, Thank you, Cheers 🍻
@faenethlorhalien
@faenethlorhalien Жыл бұрын
For so few people, it would make more sense to have them all forcibly relocated to a bigger town like Sept-Iles. The brits did something similar in the Hebrides, so it's not like it's unheard of. It makes little sense to keep a settlement in such an inhospitable place.
@demorbe-official
@demorbe-official 2 жыл бұрын
I love your work. It's really great. I like how you explain stuff. You make things easy to understand.
@mukhtar__
@mukhtar__ 2 жыл бұрын
A+ quality videos as usual. glad to see the steady growth. keep up the amazing work!!
@FHL-Devils
@FHL-Devils Жыл бұрын
Canada is a truly massive country with staggering infrastructure costs. These communities of a few hundred (at most) people simply are not financially or socially sustainable by a financially responsible government.
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
Speaking as a Brit living in London England, I have done every railway line in Canada except Churchill, including Schefferville. I cleared Yukon to Nova Scotia in 7 trips. Canada is so small.....
@jcampbell2481
@jcampbell2481 2 жыл бұрын
In 1967 I spent some time in Schefferville and Labrador City. I was up there to install telephone switching equipment for QNSLR. QNSLR besides running the trains also ran the telephone system. Very cold in February at around -50 F. No trains for me; I flew on F27 aircraft operated by Quebecair. Great little 36 passenger propellor driven planes . Yes its remote, but an interesting place to visit.
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
A real cdn.just hope you didn't get into a punch up with any MacDonalds up there.
@pennyyeomans4115
@pennyyeomans4115 2 жыл бұрын
I have lived in a small town in Canada and I never felt uncared for. What an ignorant thing to say. Small communities don't have what large communities have to offer. Canada is free and you can live anywhere you want. Where ever you choose to live don't snivel.
@andrewsang4688
@andrewsang4688 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the reason the Canadian government doesn't give a damn about this town is because it only has 200 people. The government giving it a subsidy of 55 million is the same thing as cutting a check for 275,000 per person. Would it not have made more sense to just give them a fraction of that money to move out of this place?
@patrckdinn7265
@patrckdinn7265 Жыл бұрын
That's what they did in nfld when it became a canadian province.hundreds of smaller communities were relocated.if u didn't want to move they just cut back on services until u had no other choice but accept .this is still going on today
@baronvonjo1929
@baronvonjo1929 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at my world map last week and landed on the Yukon. I started thinking how northern Canada seems to be one of the most forgotten places in the world. I never hear anything about it and can't really picture it.
@timhenderson9794
@timhenderson9794 Жыл бұрын
Yukon is full of Mountains and natural beauty
@sdot5389
@sdot5389 Жыл бұрын
The western side of Yukon borders Alaska and they share the similar mountain ranges. The tallest mountain in Canada is in the Yukon.
@MightyFineMan
@MightyFineMan Жыл бұрын
The Yukon is a friendly place. In my experience people look out for one another. Everything there feels infinitely far from the rest of the world.
@lajya01
@lajya01 Жыл бұрын
It's not any different from the remote parts of Siberia. The climate is very harsh and almost nobody live there. The few villages that exist are extremely isolated and make transportation extraordinarily expensive.
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
The White Pass and Yukon Railroad goes to Carcross, YT. I have done that, and every railway line in Canada (except Churchill) including Schefferville, plus all 5 railways in Alaska. Regards from London England.
@Sky-pg8jm
@Sky-pg8jm 2 жыл бұрын
The TRT is a great initiative, I hope either it or projects like it can expand to other isolated indigenous communities across this country.
@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few other indigenous railways across the country that we sadly couldn't fit into this video , definitely check them out!
@thomasrengel5577
@thomasrengel5577 2 жыл бұрын
In 1989 I rode the entire main line of the Quebec North Shore & Labrador. Sept Iles to Schefferville Thursday and stayed overnight Thursday-Friday at Schefferville in the Hotel Royale. The shower head came apart in the my hand as I tried to adjust it--fortunately I wasn't soaped up so there went the idea of a shower. Trying to remember if there was any place open for breakfast! Missed the change to ride around the turning loop. Friday rode to Ross Bay Jct. and switched to the branch line train to Labrador City--which line is now freight-only. Stayed Friday night in Wabush at what was called the Sir Wilfred Grenfell Hotel. Flew Labrador City to Quebec City Saturday afternoon after a private tour of the iron ore railway--yes, I saw the automated one in operation. Schefferville was largely a ghost town in 1989; I read it was later revived a bit but I guess it is largely abandoned now. That can happen to mining town--but I have seen the interior of Labrador. "Fun" Fact: I've been to Labrador but NOT Newfoundland. Yes, I know the Province is now named "Newfoundland and Labrador": half a million in Newfoundland and only 30,000 in Labrador. I even know about Newfoundland's Colonial Building Riot of April 5, 1932 in St. John's, an event similar but less deadly than our American January 6, 2021 festivities at our Capitol. But in 1989 the Word of the Iron Ore Company of Canada was LAW in the area; they had built the RR in the 1950's and their former President was now Prime Minster of Canada so no matter what the Province of Quebec said there were signs in English all over Sept Iles and Schefferville. At the QNS&L station the signs with the rules were in FIVE languages, English, French, and three Indian languages. OK, once I get new speakers I may watch your video. Neat to read below of Schefferville AND the Eastern Townships which I finally got to in 2003 after having been told by someone from there about them in 1976. What Vermont would be like if they weren't Americans and everyone spoke Quebecois French! More Americans should visit there even is the Quebec Central Railway is sadly now largely gone!
@daganisoraan
@daganisoraan Жыл бұрын
Fact: When the mine stopped producing, the government offered people money to relocate elsewhere. Everyone that refused chose their fate to stay in a town with no easy access to food, medecine or even jobs. The ironic part is now 90% of all inhabitants rely on governmental aid to live month by month. Sure I get it wanting to stay in your hometown, where you grew up and lived all your life. But at some point, all cities have an economic reason to exists and if the reason disappear, well you must go where there's jobs available. That's nothing new. People have been moving around for thousands of years.
@wafflecat3792
@wafflecat3792 2 жыл бұрын
Really love the video about my province! They're so much interesting history and cultural dynamic here, but rarely see videos about it... Really seeing forward for new videos about Canada! :)
@donovandownes5064
@donovandownes5064 Жыл бұрын
hard to say Canada "doesn't care about" Shefferville when they were willing to subsidize the rail travel...
@davidrenton
@davidrenton Жыл бұрын
seems a for more sensible option would be to invest in Air, you only need to maintain 2 points, as opposed to 100's of miles of railway in unpopulated regions. A converted C-130 would be sufficient for Cargo and Passengers. It would end far cheaper, be far more immune to weather , and far more flexible.
@beurreqc1791
@beurreqc1791 Жыл бұрын
Coming from Baie-Comeau (a town near sept-iles) it’s actually very nice to see a KZbinr make a professional video about these remote places that even Canadians don’t know
@quiricomazarin476
@quiricomazarin476 Жыл бұрын
Yep blarney Muldoon is famous there also
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
I agree. 11 Brits loved Schefferville during our visit. We reckon it is the most scenic railway in all of Canada. We know. We have done them all. Regards from London England.
@girlnorthof60
@girlnorthof60 4 ай бұрын
I live in an ex-mining town in central Yukon (no bus/train service to the city, temps hit -53 twice last winter.) I visited Lab City/Wabush & Fermont for a few weeks one Jan. in the late '80s & it gets bloody cold w/tons of white stuff. A trailer court in Lab City disappeared in 1 snow storm, they had to shovel down to find the doors to get ppl out, along with a seriously dangerous power outage.🥶 HUGE respect, they're a tough lot up there but super nice. Great Doc 👍
@marie-andreec5164
@marie-andreec5164 2 жыл бұрын
My partner's family used to live in a town south of Schefferville - Gagnon - which was razed to the ground when the mining company left. His sister was even born there. She's a high school teacher and loves to shock her students by saying that she was born in a ghost town. He was just a little kid but he clearly rememembers taking the train down to Sept-Îles to then travel elsewhere in the province to visit grandparents and stuff.
@riceplatter8102
@riceplatter8102 Жыл бұрын
I drive through Gagnon almost every year. I always stop there to stretch my legs and eat a sandwich I brought
@horsthattenaur921
@horsthattenaur921 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Sept-Iles. Went to Queen Elisabeth High School and graduated 1971. Our class took a trip to Labrador City. What a beautiful Landscape. Love this Video.
@groovycody
@groovycody Жыл бұрын
speaking candidly from my personal perspective, you could live in an old mining town with a population of 12,823 as of 2016 and trust me, the federal governments still gonna make you feel as if youre a bunch of barnacles on a rock.
@xyzyyz
@xyzyyz Жыл бұрын
If they have been living there for 1000 years then they lived there before the invention of the train, automobile or mining in the region. So all they need to do is continue to live like their ancestors. No cultural contamination, no internet, doctors, packaged food, etc.
@nitnatclo-oose297
@nitnatclo-oose297 Жыл бұрын
Just fascinating! Thanks! I had no idea of this route or the community it services.
@jceeross6763
@jceeross6763 Жыл бұрын
I just love how much I learn from this man
@skylineXpert
@skylineXpert 2 жыл бұрын
Its universal and can happen everywhere. In my country denmark there are a few forgotten towns, but i believe a lot more will arrive because when the tiny general store closes then its just a matter of when people will forget
@laurie113
@laurie113 2 жыл бұрын
In your country, Denmark , you practiced Genocide of the Women of Greenland? A few forgotten towns , but thousand’s of Women won’t ever forget .
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz Жыл бұрын
Med unntak at Danmark er 40 km langt
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz Жыл бұрын
@@laurie113 Han har vel ikkje hatt noe med folkmord og gjøre du! Som amerikaner er du ansvarlig for de indianernes situasjon?
@LePetitMondedeMichel
@LePetitMondedeMichel 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos about a city like no others here in Québec. Nobody talk about Sherveville outside Sherveville. Is a city full of history lost in the north. If you have the chance to go there don't miss it, it will need some planning and you will never forget it.
@cathychisholm8460
@cathychisholm8460 Жыл бұрын
I was born in Schefferville on April 1964. I was the only blonde blue-eyed girl in the Hospital. I now live in the USA. I would like to go back and visit some day.
@MrSchattka
@MrSchattka 4 ай бұрын
Was born there in 1963. Left in the Summer of 81.
@j.f.7509
@j.f.7509 4 ай бұрын
I was born in December 1960 in Schefferville. We left in 1965 I think. I'm now in DC!
@johnransom1146
@johnransom1146 Жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t it be a tourist railway? I’m Canadian, have travelled coast to coast by rail and have never heard of this railway. I’d take it. Subsidize some onboard upgrades like a real dining car serving native game and local fish. Some native cultural interpreters on the activities lounge. Glassed panorama car. Sleeping cabins.
@midbc1midbc199
@midbc1midbc199 Жыл бұрын
The Canadian government still pays for that line of track and the upkeep
@chadnas7781
@chadnas7781 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Canada does not care about all reserves across Canada. I’ve lived and worked on one and worked at multiple other ones and it’s sad. But First Nations people are very resilient and amazing.
@majuscule8883
@majuscule8883 2 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me 2 жыл бұрын
It's because the system of reserves is a cancer that hurts both Canada and the First Nations. It hurts Canada since they have to pay for basically everything in the reserves, including welfare for a big part of the population and gets no taxes since there are none on reserves. This leads to Canada spending as little as possible on reserves as it is an investment without return, which keeps the FIrst Nation in perpetual poverty. And since they are poor, they don't want the reserve system to go away, since they would lose guaranteed welfare and would have to pay taxes, which leads to our current status quo, which has lasted decades and will last decades more.
@chadnas7781
@chadnas7781 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me that is very well said.
@stuartjackson8091
@stuartjackson8091 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me the only thing Canada is doing is giving back a few crumbs to the fist nation's own table, it a bargain for the Canadians they got Canada out of the deal.
@michaelyano6094
@michaelyano6094 Жыл бұрын
"Why Canada Doesn't Care" gives 55 million dollars to a town a 200 people
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 2 жыл бұрын
"Tshiwetin" train! The Innu aimun name for Canada "Northwest wind"! Great memories of being there and on that train in the deep freeze winter. Very interesting story. Tks!
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
Cheers. I think it is my favourite Canadian railroad and I have done all of them (except Churchill). Regards from London England.
@G33K177
@G33K177 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I live a few hours west of the line, and I always wondered why the gov doesn't connect the whole region by train
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 2 жыл бұрын
As a 🇨🇦, Im glad to see things like this (the rail handoff) to locals. Hopefully they can turn the tide from "loss" to marginal profit (or break even). Im glad to hear stories about businesses and opportunities for indigenous communities. Need some kind of stimulus programs for business development in these places (other than casinos and tax-free shops). Good cover of this story. 👍
@claire2088
@claire2088 2 жыл бұрын
forced resettling is such an awful thing to do to people 😢 wishing the best for these communities to recover in whichever way they know is best for them
@RamPMonyPers
@RamPMonyPers 2 жыл бұрын
Forced resettling causes intergenerational trauma which takes decades to heal. It is inhumane and cruel.
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner Жыл бұрын
what exactly would you consider forced resettling? i dont believe anyone is coming in to demand they move into civilization or forfeit their town.. but i dont think we as a country have to fund a town of people to live in the middle of nowhere and provide nothing of value to the rest of the nation.. im sure theyre more than capable of being self sufficient in the community, why do we owe them each a cheque every month, piles of government programs, and a subsidized railway costing millions a year its not realistic to run a country like that, and its part of the reason we are in the situation we are now, with inflation soaring, no one wanting to work, and everyone expecting the government to handle everything for them..
@nuraby_9228
@nuraby_9228 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewBrowner ok residential school supporter. 🤣🤣🤣
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner Жыл бұрын
@@nuraby_9228 thats quite the leap... i could care less what anyone does with their life/free time, i certainly dont advocate for mandatory government funded boarding schools, my whole point was we shouldnt be subsidizing people to live in the woods not contributing to the economy in an extremely remote and expensive region.. they can live there all they want, im thrilled people live in the wilderness its great i respect the hell out of it.. just do it self sufficiently though dont stand there with your hands out moaning theres no work, food, infrastructure ect ect in the middle of a baren wasteland
@mariusvanc
@mariusvanc Жыл бұрын
Nobody's forcing anyone to resettle. If you have a job there and live in the town, you can continue to do so. But it sounds like people just WANT to live there, and, lacking means of survival, expect the rest of the country to fund their lifestyle. I hate this dilution that's going on. Everything is an assault now. Everything is violence. Everything is traumatic. Everything is forced. This minimizes and discounts the damage to and suffering of REAL victims. You know what IS forced resettling? When the communists came for the ethnic Ukrainians in SE Poland, loaded people onto trucks and trains, and randomly scattered them throughout the entire country. THAT'S FORCED. STFU with your bleeding heart nonsense.
@Leafsrule016
@Leafsrule016 Жыл бұрын
I worked at TATA steel, 30 min outside of Schefferville on FIFO. There’s still a good deal of mining going on. TATA is a fairly new operation and not the only new project in the area. Labrador iron mines has a nice new operation up there as well. I certainly wouldn’t want to live there but many do and it’s making a comeback.
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner Жыл бұрын
would love to see people be able to get out of civilization and live more remotely if thats what they prefer, great to see some industry to give them some income and opportunity.. i just hope we dont continue to subsidize them the whole way, every needs to be striving for self sufficiency not constantly looking to the government for a hand out and to solve all their problems
@emptyhad2571
@emptyhad2571 Жыл бұрын
And I though I was isolated when I lived in Altona, Manitoba in the southern part of the province.
@swagmundfreud666
@swagmundfreud666 Жыл бұрын
And that explains why 90% of Canada's population live within 100 km of the US border.
@ferociousfil5747
@ferociousfil5747 2 жыл бұрын
Canada may not have Europe’s train network but the country was founded on the railroad and in some areas it is part of the culture. So saying that railway is not important in Canada could not be further from the truth.
@dsxa918
@dsxa918 2 жыл бұрын
Nice name
@danilianian
@danilianian 2 жыл бұрын
55 million dollars for a town with a population of 213 people
@PhilipRice
@PhilipRice 2 жыл бұрын
Well researched and presented. Thank you.
@coreclutches8859
@coreclutches8859 Жыл бұрын
i acc live in the more north village about 15 km away, it is very small here and there is a 40 year project going on to make kawawachikamach (the village) have more housing (kawawa has more population then schefferville when it’s almost 2 times bigger)
@jpcaretta8847
@jpcaretta8847 2 жыл бұрын
In may, I took the Zephyr from SanFransisco (Everett) to Chicago (54h) ! I recommend it BTW Fantastic trip. This ride to Shefferville seems to be worth it and a short trip. Have been a few time in La Tuque, lake St Jean etc...
@arcsine
@arcsine 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. The people living up there (and in many northern Indigenous communities in Canada) deserve to have the story of their (far too many) struggles highlighted like this. I live in a different Canadian province and I know there are similar issues like this with many of those communities up north. Well done.
@LeahandLevi
@LeahandLevi 2 жыл бұрын
Such a well produced video about my home country! (Although the opposite side haha)
@katherinegilks3880
@katherinegilks3880 2 жыл бұрын
Sad but unsurprising racism in the comments. There are plenty of non-Indigenous rural isolated communities in Canada too, but sure, the commenters focus on the fact that this is a primarily Indigenous community. If Canada doesn’t support its isolated rural communities, we will lose the whole region to foreign corporations and governments. The survival of the so-called free world depends on little isolated Canadian communities.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah? Who is going to steal that territory? We do have an army of 70000 soldiers with military bases in these regions, we can defend it from "foreign corporations". If the United States want it, they will just annex Canada, nothing we can do about it, if Russia wants it, we are in NATO, they don't stand a chance. It's not a few hundred civilians living in a wasteland that's going to change that. And by the way, Canada isn't the free world all on it's own, what are you on about.
@danicad.3278
@danicad.3278 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Yes. All Canadians should buy a fugly bungalow in Brampton. We the North! You should look into the forced relocation of Inuit in Resolute and Grise Fiord. The Canadian government forced these relocations to assert Canada's "sovereignty" in the Arctic.
@ririlan2137
@ririlan2137 2 жыл бұрын
My father was among the first to move to Schefferville in 1954. He was born in Montreal, had the opportunity to go work there. My 2 brothers and I were born there. Moved to Labrador City in 1960, back in Montreal in 1966. Maybe that is why I love the cold snowy winter :))
@Zeyev
@Zeyev 2 жыл бұрын
Both sides of the Line (USA and Canada) have long ignored their native populations. We both now have some First Nation/Native Americans in our national governments and I can only hope that a seat at the table will serve to highlight the dire status of these nations. And perhaps help to lift them out of poverty without sacrificing their culture and languages.
@Henchman1977
@Henchman1977 Жыл бұрын
Now imagine that there's hundreds or thousands of similar situations spread all over Canada... Well that's the reality. At least Schefferville had a reason to exist because of the mine. More often we encouraged (forced) indigenous peoples to live, unnaturally, in area that they have little chance of success in.
@UltimateAzumanger
@UltimateAzumanger 2 жыл бұрын
3:19 What happened to the audio here?
@MM1117RF
@MM1117RF Жыл бұрын
I've been to Schefferville working as a hunting guide for an outfitter in the late 80's. During IOC years this train was nicknamed " le train des cocus".
@chadbertrand1460
@chadbertrand1460 2 жыл бұрын
I traveled this rail line with my grandfather back in the 70s. All I remember is being incredibly bored. Maybe there was some nice scenery, but I couldn't see much through the trees.
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 2 жыл бұрын
You had to be in the car with the native "Indians"! I did in excellent company. Now, they own the Company!!
@chadbertrand1460
@chadbertrand1460 2 жыл бұрын
@@jossdionne9810 No such luck. I was on some kind of industrial iron ore train with a small crew which my grandfather was part of. No passengers except myself and my best friend's older brother. My only encounter with indigenous people at the time was seeing slums they unfortunately lived in.
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadbertrand1460 Wow, heavy load! The first time I went up, that was a very old passenger train for miners. We were 3 guys, 1 white 1 Indian, one half and half. Rushing full speed crazy train in a snow storm.
@deanandkay
@deanandkay 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t want to be insensitive, but I have to agree. If my ancestors lived in my town for centuries, and the reason I/they live/d there was gone, or if I was unwilling to live the way they used to live, I wouldn’t expect anyone to pay for me to live there.
@katherinegilks3880
@katherinegilks3880 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, you don’t want any services at all? The principle behind serving isolated communities is the same as serving large cities. Services are services. Plus if Canada got rid of all its isolated communities, we’d basically be surrendering the entire Arctic and subarctic to foreign corporations. Those isolated communities are providing a vital service to the whole free world.
@deanandkay
@deanandkay 2 жыл бұрын
@@katherinegilks3880 you make a good point, there are many remote areas that provide very valuable services, to Canadian interests and to Canadians and beyond. I also value aboriginal culture and hope that is preserved. But it does seem that when a town is no longer able to AT LEAST survive on their own, there is a demand that it must be propped up by other tax payers. The fur traders in the Rockies, would capture beavers (I think, maybe minx), they would sell it because there was a market. Then when a synthetic fur was made, the market dried up, and the traders left the Rockies to do something else. One could argue that had we supported them, the Rockies would be much more explored/developed and that’s a good thing, but maybe it isn’t. Undeveloped backcountry in the Rockies is a resource in itself. But I feel that before propping up communities, there should be discussion on whether it provides benefit to the country as a whole, not just that community. What do you think?
@odeszaa
@odeszaa 2 жыл бұрын
They’re tax paying citizens. Why the fuck would they not receive proper services?
@stuartjackson8091
@stuartjackson8091 Жыл бұрын
@@deanandkay the first nations are propping up all of Canada, it's there land not the colonists, as the left wing say, and is so true in the case of Canada, property is theft
@cabbytabby
@cabbytabby 2 жыл бұрын
The camera spinning around the map is so dizzying. Just keep it north up when you’re zooming in or out please
@appa609
@appa609 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that efficient allocation of resources would be to offer the 110 people free resettlement to somewhere better. Trains need way more volume than this to get remotely close to making sense. If the first nations people can fund the line then all power to them but it seems to me that a tiny village with almost no economic activity is not going to be able to sustain it. They can return to a preindustrial way of life but I suspect that's not a palatable option to anyone.
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 2 жыл бұрын
Moosonee Ontario is only reachable by rail. Ontario Northland rail has kept going to keep servicing the town and James Bay reserves. The Ontario government has promised a road in since PapaTrudeau days. There is a provincial hospital in Moose factory ready to fall down.
@nuke___8876
@nuke___8876 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the town on this video I was like: "Looks like something you'd see in The Long Dark." Then you told the story of Schefferville and I was like: "That's exactly the background of The Long Dark." The only thing missing is a max security prison.
@jonahwalker8
@jonahwalker8 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing!
@icreatedanaccountforthis1852
@icreatedanaccountforthis1852 Жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of Schefferville before and I'm Canadian. Thanks for this.
@dangal9366
@dangal9366 Жыл бұрын
Government waste of money. Imagine this story times 5000.
@psychosurfer69
@psychosurfer69 Жыл бұрын
At least you have trains. We have none in Iceland
@Xontaro
@Xontaro 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one or does Canada look a bit like a squirrel in the thumbnail?
@Faultlinevideos
@Faultlinevideos 2 жыл бұрын
Now I can’t un see it 🐿️
@jakobpramistar
@jakobpramistar 2 жыл бұрын
4:09 shows a train from my home country South Tyrol in a video about canadian cities.
@ArtemTsarevDoc
@ArtemTsarevDoc 2 жыл бұрын
0:19 russian suburban train also
@wilmerfilen5030
@wilmerfilen5030 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 russian passenger wagons
@vdfsbdz
@vdfsbdz 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine is a teacher there! Was surprised to see this video on my fyp haha
@Manitobius
@Manitobius 2 жыл бұрын
Actually some footage in the clip of nicer trains are from Russian RZD trains not Canadian ones.
@pjbth
@pjbth 2 жыл бұрын
Did they live there for generations or were they forced to resettle there in the 60s like you said at the start? If they had been forced to resettle why didn't they leave when the mine closed like the other people. Instead the Canadian tax payers are out 55mil for 100 people to live somewhere that is totally unviable without total subsistence on the government because there is no economic reason to be there.
@hugobourgon198
@hugobourgon198 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why that train is important is that flights from southern Canada to northern Canada are more expensive than the flights from Canada to Europe. Trains make the living cost cheaper in Shefferville. Places like kuujjuaq are expensive because everything comes in by planes. For example a Tropicana bottle of juice is close to 30$ in northern Canada, while it is less than 5$ in the South.
@CardboardBots
@CardboardBots 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this place. I used to live in Lab city as a kid, but we moved away during one of the bust cycles.
@TehMakeUpMage
@TehMakeUpMage Жыл бұрын
I live in Calgary and my mom moved up to Kugluktuk for work. She saves so many puppies. There's no veterinary care unless you can afford to ship your dog to yellowknife, and if your dog dies its easy to just get a new one. She fosters dozens of puppies a year before sending them down south.
@aperinich
@aperinich Жыл бұрын
Excellent content! Have just discovered. your channel today, and subbed... thanks~! I have to ask though - when you display a map on the screen, why render it ROTATING?? It would be MUCH MORE USEFUL to see a map with compass directions, and one that doesn't move about when trying to look at it.. I realise I can pause the video... But rotating the maps is adding nothing qualitative to your production... and meanwhile it detracts from the user experience.
@redneckbryon
@redneckbryon Жыл бұрын
Somewhat similar Moosonee Ontario it’s only accessed by train as well. To travel to Moosonee you catch the train in Cochrane Ontario, it’s roughly a five hour trip.
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
I have done both Schefferville and Moosonee. Alas the Northlander from Toronto no longer runs. You folks need to vote out your politicians !! Regards from London England.
@shronksnipes8724
@shronksnipes8724 Жыл бұрын
There's a place like that up north in Pukatawagan, Manitoba. Only way is plane or train, and winter time is when the winter road opens.
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz Жыл бұрын
Faultline - "Canada is by no means known for rail travel" Me - The linking of East and the West of Canada, celebrated by "the golden spike" is one of the most important and celebrated moments in Canadian history. Also - Culture Trip ranked "Rocky Mountaineer" as *the best rail trip in the world* last year. (Conde Naste readers ranked "The Canadian" and "The Rocky Mountaineer" as the 2nd and 3rd best train trips in the world in 2022).
@JDWilks97
@JDWilks97 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a 55million loan for a town with no economic output.
@dannyward673
@dannyward673 Жыл бұрын
Top video m8. Living in London uk & watching informative stuff like this is really satisfying as odd as that may sound. I do love Canada I think it’s the shear size the beauty and the people. The people seem to be so in touch and calm with life. I had an uncle who just passed who lived there for over 60yrs so he was a Canadian and when he came over to the east end to visit my nan he would speak highly of the country and life there. 👍🏼
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 6 ай бұрын
I also live in London, England ! I have done the railway to Schefferville. I reckon it is one of the best in Canada. I have also done every railway line in Canada except Churchill. Plus bits of America, including all five railways in Alaska. Done all of Blighty, Ireland, Portugal, Norway, and most of Europe.
@butchtommasino
@butchtommasino Жыл бұрын
this is the best way to protect them honestly, i bet the chinese have not driven real estate prices up in that town for example
@Simply_Jerry
@Simply_Jerry 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
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