Arval Paralogue - Cycles of Nostalgia - Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes

[@FazFaz]

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[@lebazardecourtot6927]

I beat that paralogue at level 2 Arval because i didn't leveled him up

[@Hebleh]

Im so happy theres even a dedicated Arval chapter here. The lore of Thales runs deeper, and so does the details of the battles long ago. Seems like Thales has always been a pretty poor leader and of low opinion to other Slitherer commanders..

[@Watermage2]

Not that Epimenide’s methods are much better than Thales. In the secret chapter Epimenides created illusions of Hubert, Dedue and Hilda to attack Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude and he kept taunting with stuff like “How could you attack your friend” or “You’re a terrible person for killing your friend.”

[@tyomega9939]

@@Watermage2 if I wanna be THAT generous, those were illusory and we don't know if they would do that to their enemies' own allies. Thales and his sect seemingly embraced blatant bodysnatching, horrid human experimentation, and on multiple occasions instigate political conflicts that have gotten royalty killed when they became the only ones left. Ephimenedes themselves said that they don't like Thales' methods even if it was for the success of the liberation army.

[@DoctorFrostbite1]

Thales being a poor leader to the point of where even the other mole people are not pleased with his methods is not surprising, after all, this is the same guy who is willing to nuke his people's last hideout with his men still inside in the present day.

[@MrGksarathy]

That being said, none of them actually turn on him, which says a lot about their command structure and about their culture as a whole. Fascists are just subs, plain and simple.

[@4wheal]

@@MrGksarathy Honestly I wished Cleobulus had taken over from Thales as s(he) is much smarter just look at the Kingdom and what happed there

[@MrGksarathy]

Ah man, I'm loving this Agarthan lore. It almost makes up for how criminally underutilized Epimenedes is in the main story. It seems that Thales and Epimenedes might have been contemporaries from the original war and might be of equal standing in the Agarthan hierarchy, and clearly, Thales and Epimenedes both invested a lot in Nemesis. Thales' advanced age might actually explain how he's the only one who can use the Javelins of Light. Finally, I can't be the only one cheering for the enemies of the map, and I wonder if this encounter played a role in Flayn going into a 900+ year coma.

[@nickcalderon2637]

Apparently, from what I've read in most of the Lore, Cethlean/Flayn went into her Coma after the Battle at Tailtean Plains when Nemesis was killed by Seiros.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@nickcalderon2637 Was it ever clear that she suffered the most damage in that battle? I don't remember, and I think maybe it was the cumulative stress of the war that did her in.

[@nickcalderon2637]

@@MrGksarathy More than likely the stress eventually exploding out, along with whatever injuries they received in that Battle.

[@ceumadorgas9407]

It is said by Seteth that Flayn exhausted herself by trying to heal every injured soldier that she could

[@MrGksarathy]

@@ceumadorgas9407 I believe it, but do you have a source? There's a ton of misinformation about 3 Houses lore floating around.

[@twiilit_]

i do wish we saw humanoid indech and macuil :(

[@jet_set8648]

Underrated comment

[@MrGksarathy]

Same. That would have been nice. The closest we've ever gotten is the Saint Statues in 3H, and those are pretty generic.

[@4wheal]

I wish we would have seen dragon Flayn and Seteth

[@laughingseagull000]

@@4wheal I’m pretty sure the painting of a dragon in Seteth’s office in Three Houses is Flayn. I’m also pretty sure the dragon on the emblem/logo of the Church of Seiros is Seteth.

[@jet_set8648]

@@4wheal Cichol’s thought process: Who needs to become a dragon when you can MOUNT one?

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

Damn, Cichol and Cethleann look familiar

[@tenor1190]

How suspicious 🧐🧐

[@jorge111juarez]

sus

[@Ikatsuma]

​@Noel T. Lat way to ruin the mood.

[@Lexicon865]

I mean yeah *They're obviously Xander and Elise, respectively, with different hairstyles*

[@jet_set8648]

I’ve never seen those people in my life; I’m not sure who you could possibly mistake for them.

[@serpent2776]

Finally this chapter confirms for me the "descendants of beasts" the Agarthans refer to are the descendants of the 10 elites, meaning they believed the 10 elites and Nemesis to be beasts as well. And wait? Thales has been around since the first war?

[@nicolasbanidol2371]

Apparently !?!

[@Wolfboss7]

Given the Agarthans' skill in dark magic, the advanced tech they wield, including potential body modifications (Kronya's "heart" in Three Houses), it's actually not that surprising. Not to mention Thales talks about Nemesis like he personally remembers him so he was more than likely probably there.

[@serpent2776]

@@Wolfboss7 It does beg the question though, which Agarthans are immortal and which ones die?

[@4wheal]

Interesting Cleobulus/Cornelia says in the blue lions 3rd mission that s(he) refuses to wait another 1000 years for there mission to be done. I throught it was just a figure of speech but looks like they might have been serious

[@MrGksarathy]

@@serpent2776 Probably the higher-ups are immortal, but the plebs die.

[@arbb5951]

Would have been cool of Seiros and sothis got extra paralogue chapters too (as they’re both post game characters too

[@orrthehunter]

This rather interesting lore added to Three Houses storyline and one that really needs to be expand on since it adds more questions that really needs to be answered involving those Slithering in the Dark. There is also a matter of Shez's past and how did Arval ended up defeated in the war but I am guessing all of these things are being saved for a DLC storyline that either takes place Post-Storyline or a new storyline path.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

We know how Arval was killed, they showed it in the opening cutscene to the game.

[@orrthehunter]

@@SilverHairedFreak25 I know we saw him killed in the opening but I am asking about how did events lead to that moment. From this paralogue it was clear that Arval was one of the more compentent leaders of the Agarthans but some how Thales, the one most consider incompentent, ended up being the only one to survive. I feel like there are details missing leading up to Arval's death during that war.

[@kellyjohana516]

@@orrthehunter I don't think Epidemedes was supposed to be in this war. He is the equivalent of Sothis so he could've easily taken them out. Moreover, the dialogue says Nemesis retired but hello? Didn't we see Seiros stab him repeatedly and take back the Sword of the Creator? How could their army fail with a progenitor god and another one in the form of a sword?

[@jet_set8648]

@@kellyjohana516 At some point in the battle Arval says something that kind of sounds like they’re critiquing theism (belief in a deity/deities) as a whole. Epimenides strikes me as more of an equivalent to Seiros or another saint if anything.

[@jet_set8648]

I like three hopes’ storyline more because it make TWSITD actually relevant to the plot. Only thing they do in Three Houses is nuke the impregnable fortress, do a handful of things involving Byleth just before the timeskip, and that’s it. I’m not including Nemesis since he kind of did that on his own or in response to the commotion in Shambhala

[@amirgarcia547]

This paralogue seems really dope, but then again, you have to kill Byleth and Jeralt in order to unlock it, so idk if I’ll ever actually do it.

[@notwhoyouthink6980]

Just save before doing chapter 10/12 so after you recruit byleth you just replay the chapter and kill them to get the paralouge

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

​@@notwhoyouthink6980 I killed them first and then next playthrough I saved them

[@acshepard6779]

Missed opportunity to not have human Indech and Macuil here, or dragon Cethleann and Seteth in the game :/

[@jet_set8648]

Cichol’s thought process: Why turn into a dragon when you can MOUNT one? In all seriousness I agree, I want to see actual human forms of the other saints and not just the generic statues in the monastery

[@acshepard6779]

@@jet_set8648 Hmmmm now that I think about it, wyverns are like mini-dragons... I wonder if wyverns descendants of Nabateans... 🤯

[@ownedwfactsnlogic]

That would require making new assets and you can't have too much ambition into your video game

[@acshepard6779]

Huh, so Thales lived a thousand years as well? I thought he was just the new(mortal/normal human lifespan) leader of 1185 generation's Agarthans.

[@loserinasuit7880]

Agarthans aren't human

[@valemontgomery9401]

Wait, so Thales has been alive for ALL THESE YEARS?!

[@ThatTCG]

That's why he's so angry all the time

[@SilverOmega01]

I unlocked this without ever having killed Byleth, so the conditions might be different. I finished Scarlet Blaze first and recruited Byleth, bought Arval, then started Golden Wildfire and chose NOT to recruit Byleth. The chapter right after this, i unlocked the Paralogue. It looks like you just need to have seen both resolutions to the recruitment quest AND have Arval already unlocked. Then you get the Paralogue in the next chapter (11 for SB and GW, 13 for AG). Actually killing Byleth doesn't seem to be required.

[@jkarma3356]

not recruit byleth?

[@SilverOmega01]

@@jkarma3356 Yeah, during each route there is a story battle (Chapter 10 in Black Eagles and Golden Deer, Chaper 12 in Blue Lions) that has a warning at the beginning saying that this mission will change the outcome of the story. If you fulfil certain conditions in it, you automatically recruit Byleth and Jeralt. If you don't, then you kill Jeralt and you have to fight and kill Byleth in a future chapter. If you don't recruit Byleth, then you skip Chapter 15 and 16 (the same in all three routes) and go straight from 14 to the final chapter.

[@thescarredraven2634]

@@SilverOmega01 do you have to be on New Game+ in order to get the paralogue bc you mentioned how you have Arval unlocked? I’m still on my first playthrough of Scarlet Blaze and I haven’t seen this paralogue yet

[@SilverOmega01]

@@thescarredraven2634 Yes, you need to be on New Game Plus. In case you didn't know, you don't need to do the same route on NG+, you can do all three on the same save file. The actual route also doesn't matter, so long as you've recruited Byleth, bought Arval (which you need Byleth to do), and then beat the mission without recruiting Byleth. You can also kill Byleth in the first playthrough and recruit them in the second then buy Arval to unlock the Paralogue in the third playthrough. (Basically you need to have seen both outcomes to Byleth's story AND bought Arval to unlock the paralogue)

[@traskth]

@@SilverOmega01 i assume both outcomes must be seen in canon (not through the record keeper)

[@xer_7438]

I thought the "children" of the goddess had green hair the entire time, but apparently, Cethleann, her father, and Serios all had hair dye the whole time...WTF.

[@NoclafPain]

Maybe green is their natural but they dye it blonde while living as saints?

[@CsStrez]

I think they dyed their hair as the Saints.

[@Waffle-dog]

Wait hol up…seteth is flayn’s father!? I thought he was her brother

[@NoclafPain]

@@Waffle-dog you never played 3 houses?

[@jet_set8648]

@@NoclafPain or did their paralogue or both lmao

[@Watermage2]

Guess this shows that Nemesis really was an evil thief as opposed to the hero that Edelgard thought he was. Although FEH did show what Nemesis’s “liberation” really was.

[@lizzytrip4560]

That's been confirmed fact for a *really* long time

[@schmae3503]

You kinda got the two mixed up. I mean Edelgard literally said he was simply a common thief in CF. She called him all powerful but thats the closest compliment she gave him in the game.

[@inesatt1313]

And the truth is at last revealed

[@lizzytrip4560]

Also, Edelgard never called him a hero- she said that he rebelled against the Goddess. Edelgard actually knew the true story, because it was passed down from one emperor to the next- because the first emperor was actually there

[@kellyjohana516]

@@schmae3503 Edelgard never called Nemesis a thief. The story it was passed from Emperor to Emperor was a lie manipulated by the emperor after the one who helped Seiros because they were salty against the Church for supporting Faerghus and Leicester to look for their own independence later on. Arundel does call him a thief in front of her but she acts like "What did he say?" kind of thing. I feel this will finally shut up those people who said just because we heard from Rhea that the hero relics are her people, it means it can be a fabricated lie just like Edelgard could be right. But she was wrong this whole time.

[@CGFillertext]

Indech and Macuil during this fight: 🫥

[@wiifreak0]

Cool paralogue but there were some strange requirements to unlock it. You need to recruit Byleth in one playthrough, play the secret chapter to unlock Arval, start a ng+ and play the game again but this time without recruiting Byleth. You'd think with such a convoluted unlock requirements you'd get some grand reward but it's just the paralogue, it's a good paralogue but it feels like you'd unlock a new ending with all the steps required.

[@nikoladedic6623]

Probably to show that by not unlocking Byleth, this was last gasp of Epimenedes as he passed on happy.

[@transudatebeau]

I wish we would've been able to play the Avesta class

[@hannahmichaelson2317]

I love how She called Arval buddy so cute

[@togerino-senpai448]

Epimenideez nuts

[@EverythingIsNothing4]

i hate that they never explain in game why shez has arval inside of them like… idk if they’re saving it for dlc but it’s stupid to just leave that as a mystery lol

[@evanracer9]

rewatching this makes me sad we didnt get nemesis as dlc and/or a nemesis paralogue

[@lagspike7763]

epimenideez NUTS

[@jet_set8648]

What do you need to do to unlock this paralogue? I’m on my second playthrough (a NG+ file) and got Arval the first chance I got. I’m already past the point in the game shown in the footage (I’m currently on chapter 12 or 13). Anything I might be missing?

[@Demoneyeskyo1000]

In your second playthrough, try to kill Byleth instead of recruiting it unlocks afterwards

[@laughingseagull000]

@@Demoneyeskyo1000 So this is only NG+? Or can you do it if you kill Byleth on your first playthrough?

[@jet_set8648]

@@Demoneyeskyo1000 This IS my second playthrough. I’m already past the point where I recruited Byleth and did chapter 15. I’ll give that a shot when I do Scarlet Blaze though.

[@Demoneyeskyo1000]

@@laughingseagull000 It's only ng+. Also you recruit byleth on your first playthrough and it unlocks arval. In your second playthrough listen to arval when he tells you to try to kill byleth. The mission will unlock next chapter

[@laughingseagull000]

@@Demoneyeskyo1000 Sweet, thanks!

[@anthonythomas305]

Arval's chapter is unique

[@LeonTrifang]

How did you give Arval that class? Is it based on what gender you choose for Shez? Or is it something else?

[@eponahorse6093]

yeah based on shez's gender

[@seannetworkblogsandgames7504]

It's interesting to see that Arval/epimenedes has real care for his people but clearly holds other races of being with utter contempt. I wonder how he felt when he got his memories back and remembered he believed in racial supremacy. If you play SB, where he helps you fight for class equality, or GW, where he helps you fight for open borders and equality, I'd imagine it'd be a jarring revelation

[@MrGksarathy]

No matter what, Shez and Arval are at least nominally fighting for a more equal, just world, so Epimenedes is disgusted regardless. Also, SB is literally just imperialism dressed in the language of revolution, and GW is braindead "Rhea bad" imperialist collaboration also framed as revolution.

[@loserinasuit7880]

​@MrGksarathy I mean Imperialism is revolution. Revolution is not characterized by politics. It is the overthrowing of the person in power. Hitler led a Revolution, as did Mussolini, as did Stalin, as did the Founding Father's, as did the French Republic, as did Comstantine and so on.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@loserinasuit7880 I think my brain just broke reading this. It may be technically true definitionally, but in the spirit of the word, Edelgard's war isn't revolution, and imperialism most certainly isn't. The latter is the subjugation of heretofore independent people and extracting resources from them towards the core. Calling Edelgard's war a revolution would be the same as calling Napoleon's wars revolutions, and no one does that.

[@loserinasuit7880]

@@MrGksarathy Edelgard carried a revolution through her own Empire that consolidated power behind the Emperor and restored the status of Emperor before the insurrection of the 7. Being an Emperor does not change what a revolution is. A revolution is a politically neutral action, the greatest good and worst evils can both create revolutions.

[@loserinasuit7880]

@@MrGksarathy Napolean has led revolutions but if you're talking about his wars then obviously they aren't revolutions because he fucked with Russia, Prussia, and Britain. All foreign powers so revolution doesn't apply.

[@jaredkhan8743]

Ngl its aggravating how little information on the lore they give us. Like we're doing the paralogues give us some more information or show us more. It has this same issue in three houses where they just don't ever focus on the interesting part of fodlanda history. Even in three hopes, I just did the edelgard lys hapi paralogue ans they give us NO new information. Like come ON why even so the level???

[@necasa4919]

If you play all the routes in Three Houses you can actually piece a lot of bits of information about the initial conflict between nabateans and agarthans and how that conflict developed into the war of Edelgard against the church we see in the game, but it's true that Three Hopes adds little to the story we have been already told. It's a bit sad how little info it gives about Shez, Arval and about their respective backgrounds.

[@jaredkhan8743]

@@necasa4919 it's cool if we have to piece it together, but I'd also want then to explicitly go into actual depth with the lore. It HAS depth we never actually SEE it which is my main issue. And ya three hopes had the perfect opportunity to go into detail on the agarthans and just... Didn't for whatever reason??

[@necasa4919]

@@jaredkhan8743 It's actually fun the lore is not too explicit but at the same time I agree it would stop this game of accusation the community has between Edelgard and Rhea, focusing instead on this agarthans mf who, presumably, are meant to be the big bad guys of the story.

[@loserinasuit7880]

​@@jaredkhan8743They're supposed to be a mysterious faction.

[@jwil4286]

How did I miss this paralogue? It only requires Arval

[@theshizlet1]

You need to kill byleth in the main campaign and have arval unlocked beforehand

[@paladinslash4721]

Epimenides just Thales incompetent. That explains everything.

[@HarryAndres1120]

Thank you!

[@FazFaz]

You're welcome!

[@KendrixTermina]

interesting snippet behind the agarthan lines, hinted at much without really giving answers

[@HeroLinkOfTermina]

Wow Seeing a blonde Flayn and Seteth was really strange

[@AchmadBadra]

Since you can control sothis on free mode, so they have plan dlc for sothis side? Hmm...

[@tor9719]

Does this paralogue requiere you to kill byleth in every run you want to play this mission, or do you have to recruit byleth in one run, recruit them in another and it is available from this point forward in every new run, similar to the gatekeeper who is available from the third run and then in every new one after that?

[@ThatTCG]

Yes, you must be ng+, unlocked Arval, and kill Byleth and Jeralt as well as the others in that route that get mad over that

[@tor9719]

@@ThatTCG no what i meant is if killing byleth is requiered in every run or if you have to do it in only one run

[@oxo8461]

@@tor9719 I don't think you need to kill Byleth in every run. My runs went : - Edelgard and Claude : killed Byleth - Dimitri : recruit Byleth. Maybe you unlock it after recruiting Arval, so in a ng+ after recuiting B in the last one

[@tor9719]

@@oxo8461 i never killed byleth in my previous runs and the paralogue never showed up except in my last run where i killed B, hence the question, but still thanks

[@oxo8461]

@@tor9719 oh sorry... i tried T v T

[@kizach7200]

What was the reward for completing the paralouge? Do we get a shiny new relic or Batalion?

[@jet_set8648]

Says the rewards as Faz is choosing the paralogue itself. I think the rewards are a stat booster, but the S rank reward is an A-rank tome battalion on top of that. Not sure how to get the paralogue itself aside from recruiting Arval though.

[@hyperstargaming6150]

@@jet_set8648 kill Byleth in the next playthrough (ng+ file exclusive)

[@jet_set8648]

@@hyperstargaming6150 I intend to do just that. I’ve done Azure Gleam and Golden Wildfire already and got started on Scarlet Blaze last night.

[@dennisleonardo2992]

In 3 hopes you don't get relics through paralogues. You always get them through story progression, renown shop in ng+ or S-ranks on important missions. In 3 houses you always got them through story progression, paralogues or rarely as a drop by killing their users. 3 hopes also has more relics than houses. Hopes has every houses relic and I think like 4 relic tomes. Lysithea gets one, mercedes gets one, arval gets one and hapi gets one. So far I haven't found Constance's relic. Also, the ng+ renown shop relics in hopes are basically the ones that don't actually exist/haven't been found in the hopes storyline. Like sublime creator sword and amyr. Nemesis' dark creator sword from verdant wind final map is also in that store.

[@hyperstargaming6150]

@@dennisleonardo2992 correction: some paralogues do give relics or sacred weapons, but they are very few and far between. Also, Constance doesn’t have a relic. She has a sacred tome that comes as an S rank reward for completed one of the story missions. It’s an Ailell battle, that’s your hint. Also, Aymr is in the Epimenides interlude for Scarlet Blaze, S rank Escape from Zahras and you’ll obtain it. I’m general, I’d suggest heavily editing or deleting and recomposing your comment, it has a LOT of incorrect facts.

[@asuraofwrath]

is there also a paralog for sothis and rhea/seiros

[@FazFaz]

nope

[@asuraofwrath]

@@FazFaz ah dang oh well arval is a more story impotent character for this game anyway

[@chileanyways9075]

@@FazFaz 💔

[@nicolasbanidol2371]

As long as there is a DLC, there is hope.

[@stevenjennings5883]

How do you unlock Paralogues?

[@jet_set8648]

The game will tell you when you open the war map for the first time in a chapter if there’s one available. I don’t think you get paralogues until chapter 7 though. EDIT: You also need to have specific units for those paralogues. At the start you see others for Hilda and Marianne, as well as one for the Goneril siblings and Balthus, and you need those respective characters unlocked and usable in the main story (units are carried over in new game + but you still need to recruit them to use them outside of record/free battles at the record keeper in camp)

[@byleth9565]

It also depends on the path(s) of your choice

[@BardockSkywalker]

I never understood why this chapter is NG+ exclusive, let alone Enemy Byleth Route exclusive

[@RinJackson]

NG+ exclusive is probably because Arval can't be unlocked until one (or a continued clear save). Not sure why it requires enemy Byleth, though...

[@gillesalainkoffi8155]

Wondering if this paraloque is referring to the intro scene of game ?

[@FazFaz]

now that you mention it... this must be it

[@MrGksarathy]

@@FazFaz No, I think this is a prior battle, given that in the intro scene, Epimenedes dies before Nemesis, and that scene occurs at twilight and not the early evening.

[@nuibaba280]

LORE!?

[@FazFaz]

LORE

[@jakealucard1873]

@@FazFaz to quote the man markiplier (clears throat) THE LORE GUYS LOOK CANT U SEE THE LOOOOOOOOOORE

[@MrGksarathy]

LORE!!!

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

Nice

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

@@MrGksarathy Weird

[@inesatt1313]

Beautiful 😍❤

[@jasminedragon3315]

So weird to hear Clementine from the walking dead in fire emblem

[@fivestarguy100]

Whomst the fuck is played by Clem?

[@lightningmaster3383]

Arval.

[@saintaguacate327]

Ok with lore and all I am so confused how Seteth and Flayn’s hair are blond when the whole thing with the Nabateans was that their hair is green Byleth’s hair turned green and in Crimson Flower Seiros’ hair is green so it would’ve made sense if it was a lighter shade if green like Byleth’s. What also confuses me is that is that in the opening cutscene to Three Houses the ends of Seiros’ hair are green but here she’s fully blond when that chapter was before she killed Nemesis then what was the reason Byleth’s hair turned green and not blond like the other Nabateans? Anyways I’m way too confused to keep going on with my point so I’m just gonna stop because I’m to busy adoring this games lore😍

[@esteladomingo608]

Nabateans hair IS green/shade of greens. The reason for why Rhea, Seteteh and Flayn have blond hair in their saint persona is because they dyed it. They true hair color is green

[@TheOmegaDragon]

It's green eyes and green hair that is prominent in a Nabetean lineage. They most likely died it to conceal their lineage since their race was nearly sacked off. Green eyes are a common eye color so there was no need to change them.

[@kaiserkatsh4312]

I don't think Nemesis ever died?

[@esteladomingo608]

@@kaiserkatsh4312 Nemesis died. Rhea/Seiros killed Nemesis in the intro of Three Houses

[@kaiserkatsh4312]

I was thinking about that after I commented. How did the Agarthans bring him back alive? Was he just a zombie puppet creature or something?

[@johnheuslerjr9623]

Is killing Byleth the ONLY way to unlock this Paralogue?!

[@Chosen_Din]

Yes, but only on a New Game+ playthrough where in the previous playthrough you had to have recruited Byleth. You also need to purchase Arval as a playable character in the Renown shop after you beat the game once.

[@blueotter5954]

Is Arval the same voice actor for Ruby and that God Cat from Amphibia?

[@AmyoftheAuraforce]

Sounds like them but no, Arval’s voice actress is Melissa Hutchison

[@Arcanist_The]

@@AmyoftheAuraforce Ah so Komasan Oh my Swirls

[@peartreeorchard3947]

@@AmyoftheAuraforce Melissa Hutchison also voices Clementine from The Walking Dead.

[@natsu-kunanimen7065]

Do you unlock blonde seteth and flayn in the future?

[@jrconway3]

Maybe as DLC. I saw these portraits from the datamines so I was wondering how they came into play, or if they were just scrapped. Apparently it was for this Paralogue.

[@chileanyways9075]

arval has light and dark magic?

[@flallana18]

The class ability lets him switch between the two, yes

[@jet_set8648]

Arval’s unique action (his equivalent to Shez’s dash thing) lets him change between light and dark magic. I wonder if Arval’s gender in-game is determined by that of Shez, since the one on my file started as a dark bishop and couldn’t get gremory.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

@@jet_set8648 Yeah Shez and Arval share genders.

[@jet_set8648]

@@SilverHairedFreak25 Thanks for answering my question!

[@Demoneyeskyo1000]

in his combos he uses all the elements but light and dark magic are his specialties.

[@nickmayes9125]

Can arval use other classes because I really want them to so I can basically do a all class run (ex all swords class)?

[@nathanraber]

You can’t use Sothis/Rhea/Arval for story chapters, only record keeper chapters (and this exception)

[@Princetopher_]

@@nathanraber These characters also can't gain class exp through the training grounds. In saying all that though, Arval and the rest of the NG+ characters can be placed into any class, though their outfits won't change. Arval's classes also depend on the gender of Shez; male Shez gives them male classes, female Shez gives them female classes. I made Arval a war master hahaha

[@nickmayes9125]

Thx for the info guys.

[@Diamond_Aura]

I find it strange that their hair colors are so much blonder here, not green. I wonder what the reason/implications for that are

[@Squirmychair]

I think they dyed it to look human so people wouldn’t realize that they’re dragons

[@Diamond_Aura]

@@Squirmychair green hair isn’t exclusive to dragons in Fodlan though. If it was then Lindhardt would be the secret protaganist automatically and not Byleth lol. So like, in a world of anime hair colors what does dyeing it really do? That said, you could still be right? Or, it could also maybe be the opposite: that their hair turned green once their dragon powers became more dormant. It wasn’t until Cethleann and Cichol stopped transforming for thousands of years that we see them again, with green hair, so it might actually be like “blonde shows they have the power” and “green means it is now sealed away”. This could still make sense of Rhea because her hair is lighter than theirs, as if to say that she can slip into that form easier still, it’s not fully gone. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

[@Squirmychair]

@@Diamond_Aura tbh I figured that had to do his his crest of cethlean

[@Diamond_Aura]

@@Squirmychair perhaps, but tbh I never understood how people got the Crests of Cichol or especially Cethleann, because while some sources claim Cichol had many children, he only seems to acknowledge Cethleann from what we actually get to see. And while it’s not like it’s impossible for Cethleann to have offspring, it always seemed to me like she didn’t have any before falling asleep due to her wounds/trauma, which would mean she has no descendants and therefore bloodline to pass a crest through. The Elites took blood/Crest Stones from those Nabataean’s to enable their bloodlines to possess crests from then on, but the Saints make less sense to me because I don’t know how their bloodlines started intermingling with other people (aside from Seiros, who really did it too much for her own good lol). But did Cethleann do that at all? If she didn’t do that, or didn’t have kids, then the only alternative I can think of is Those Who Slither forcefully wounding and taking blood from Cethleann, injecting it into people who would then become Lindhardt’s ancestors. Which, with how complex Three Houses lore is, could still be possible, and maybe even explain why she needed to sleep so long, but as far as I know something like that is only implied at best, and speculation or fanfiction at worst lol

[@Squirmychair]

@@Diamond_Aura the crests are passed through bloodlines of someone who was given some blood from a Nabatean

[@jessoniakuma103]

I did all 3 Routes recruiting Byleth and Jeralt. Does that mean I lost my chance or can I still unlock this?

[@MrTsukumoyo]

Unlocking Cycles of Nostalgia requires players to recruit Byleth and complete the game, then unlock Arval with renown in NG+ and avoid recruiting Byleth on that route. With these criteria met, Arval's paralogue will become available

[@jessoniakuma103]

@@MrTsukumoyo So if I recruited Byleth on Azure Gleam, then I did NG+ to get Arval, next time I play Azure Gleam, I have to avoid recruiting Byleth to unlock it?

[@raviolibirb8009]

@@jessoniakuma103 yeah pretty much

[@giorgosdimitrokallis6178]

Hi I have played the game 3 times ( one per house ) and I haven’t played this paralogue and I don’t know why. I have chose to recruit Byleth, I have payed the renown’s for Arval and I wasn’t able to play with him, the truth is that he is unlockable in the mock battle can you help me ?

[@wiifreak0]

You need to kill Byleth to get this paralogue. But you only get it if you are playing a NG+ with Arval unlocked.

[@deckardshaw6696]

Doesn't the game explain Shez's story? His mother? How and why Arval is inside him? There are way too many things still unexplained, why are the Agartheans against Sothis and the Nabateans?

[@jkarma3356]

play three houses for the last question and the secret missions kinda explains some of this.

[@deckardshaw6696]

@@jkarma3356 Actually I played Three Houses, I just remember that the Agartheans wanted to kill all the Nabateans but I don't remember the reason

[@deckardshaw6696]

@@jkarma3356 For secret missions you mean the Zahras battle? Because I played it (Scarlet Blaze) but they didn't explain anything

[@jkarma3356]

@@deckardshaw6696 sothis destroyed the first humans aka the agarthans so that is what started all this.

[@deckardshaw6696]

@@jkarma3356 Why did she do that? Who says that?

[@miraro9146]

Why are Flayns hair a different color?

[@danielmiranda9619]

How do you unlock this? I can't even play with Arval in the story quests

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

So you have to recruit Byleth in 1 playthrough to unlock Arval, but then you have to kill Byleth in a following playthrough to unlock the paralogue.

[@SilverGarnet12]

You can use Arval when you replay story chapters through the record keeper.

[@jamonvasquez6898]

How get this paralogue? I’ve beaten all three houses and this quest never showed up. Is there a trick to it?

[@Chosen_Din]

Yeah it's a bit tricky to unlock but here's how: - Recruit Byleth in any given playthrough. - Once you beat the route, purchase Arval at the Renown shop (costs 60 points). - Start another route on New Game+ if you choose New Game the paralogue won't appear). - *DO NOT* recruit Byleth in the current playthrough. - After the chapter where you don't recruit Byleth and kill Jeralt, the paralogue will automatically be unlocked.

[@yilgis8129]

How do you get this paralouge

[@legomaster2538]

4:06 Thales existed since the battle between Serios and Nemesis!?!? 😱

[@loserinasuit7880]

Are you people just piecing this together? Agarthans aren't human.

[@shimrarin2660]

Is this paralogue only for golden wildfire?

[@SonicYoRHaGaming]

How I missed that paralogue lol

[@0axis771]

I really like Epimenides, criminally underutilized as he was. Sure, he has this kind of supremacy mindset and looks down on others, but unlike the others in TWSITD, Epimenides is truly someone that loves his people, no matter how warped it has become. Thales and his ilk are all just driven by pure hatred that started to revel in just creating chaos and torment on the people, whereas Epimenides seeks to just put an end to the longstanding conflict against the Nabateans. We see clearly how overzealous the Empire is in their worship of the goddess because of how Seiros lied and manipulated them all, and how to Epimenides, it's disgusting because he knows that their "goddess" is nothing but some monstrous beast. By all technical accounts, he's right. Sothis is no goddess. She did not make Fodlan, its people, or anything. She's an alien that came into the land that belonged to the Agarthans and created her own race of people that worshipped her and arrogantly called herself "The Beginning" and the "mother" of Fodlan. Even when Byleth/Sothis is killed, Arval remarks that rather than feeling happy to have killed them, the feeling of joy is more toward the sensation of being free from the fighting itself. Epimenides didn't care about starting more wars or to torture humanity even if he looks down on them. He just wants to kill Sothis and finally be free of it all.

[@moonmoon2479]

lol, coming from someone that was yelling and crying about “Sothis apologizists” you are quite the apologist yourself. Jesus Christ. Guess you need some way to cope that Epimenides is evil and gets killed and the world is better off that way. (He literally calls humanity beasts. The world doesn’t heal with them on it.)

[@Arcanist_The]

I like Epimendes in THEORY for these reasons but I find him incredibly underutilized and somewhat unnecessary. I also find his relationship/connection to Arval rather frustrating to say the least, as the connection between them is never really established (is Arval a vessel for Epimendes? Are they Epimendes but with an amnesia? Or is it something in-between)

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

@@Arcanist_The Yeah, it feels like Epimenedes was created to make Arval seemingly innocent, because having a companion that knows the history of Fódlan would raise suspicion. A better companion for Shez would be the Fell King Nemesis himself, because he is for one a pre-established character that deserves exploration and is unlike Sothis a badass king and warrior. He could teach Shez as a time witness the history of Fódlan and we could get his perspective of things. On top of this, we can also fight as him if we allow for an ending where he takes over Shez and fights Rhea again, this time winning definitely. Also this would be nice contrasting with Sothis: A young Dragon girl that knows nothing almsot about their past against an eldery human man who knows all about his past. This would be a nice duel to have and we could either allow sothis her revenge or have Nemesis kill her for this time definitely. I believe Nemesis would be cooler and it would explain the mystery why he had no descendants? Shez as his descendant would be an interesting plot point and then we could get a remix of god-shattering star, the best boss battle theme in Three Houses.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

@@moonmoon2479 Epimenedes is just boring evil and not cool in the slightest. Nemesis would have been a better fit as spirit to guide shez, since he is the one that would need his perspective to be heard the most.

[@jkarma3356]

i wonder how shez is able to escape afterwards.

[@jet_set8648]

That’s the neat part, they don’t.

[@jkarma3356]

@@jet_set8648 they seem too though the story continues on.

[@jet_set8648]

@@jkarma3356 -so there’s this neat little thing called sarcasm-

[@Octav2000]

How do you unlock this parallouge

[@jet_set8648]

From the answers I’ve gotten from that question, you need to recruit Byleth on one playthrough, then start a new game+ with that file, purchase arval with renown, then kill Byleth in the new playthrough and the paralogue unlocks the next chapter. That’s what I’ve gotten at any rate

[@1SecondToLight]

How to get this one?

[@JSFalco]

Figures the god is a Gremory

[@sb6196]

Actually it depends on the gender of shez: if shez is female arval is a gremory if shez is male arval is a dark bishop.

[@humidificateurhydraulique3321]

I'm on my third run (near the end) but i didnt unlock this When is it unlocked ?

[@Superluigi881]

Unlock Arval (Buy them with renown after completing Byleth's recruitment route.) then make an enemy of Byleth on your next route. It should unlock after that. I don't know if new game plus is needed or not but I think it is.

[@ubercow6611]

How do you unlock this?

[@Chosen_Din]

- Recruit Byleth in any given playthrough. - Once you beat the route, purchase Arval at the Renown shop (costs 60 points). - Start another route on New Game+ if you choose New Game the paralogue won't appear). - *DO NOT* recruit Byleth in the current playthrough. - After the chapter where you don't recruit Byleth and kill Jeralt, the paralogue will automatically be unlocked.

[@heroofmobius6616]

How do you get to this?

[@Eevee-sz7xe]

Which part is this?

[@jet_set8648]

The logo of the house you choose appears in the background of the text box. This footage is from Golden Wildfire (the golden deer route). EDIT: For the part of the story, I would assume sometime in part 2, after the 4-month timeskip (chapter 8ish and after)

[@Eevee-sz7xe]

@@jet_set8648 sorry but i meant to say route but I'm thankful that you still gave me the answer to the question and the one that I was actually looking for

[@ardicos2570]

@@Eevee-sz7xe It's technically all routes

[@youtwolf]

I have two questions how did you have this annex fight? and how did you get the gremory class on arval? my arval only has the last class of mages in boy (I don't remeber the name anymore )

[@tanachisan]

Wait how did you get arval paralogue?

[@Chosen_Din]

- Recruit Byleth in any given playthrough. - Once you beat the route, purchase Arval at the Renown shop (costs 60 points). - Start another route on New Game+ if you choose New Game the paralogue won't appear). - *DO NOT* recruit Byleth in the current playthrough. - After the chapter where you don't recruit Byleth and kill Jeralt, the paralogue will automatically be unlocked.

[@aoiperdana3936]

How to unlock?

[@DSeditor22]

Kill byleth in a playthrough

[@TheOmegaDragon]

Flayn looks like a pretty little thing with blonde hair.

[@Collector890]

Wait so this is only on Claudes route I assume?

[@stormshadowoffire]

Nope. You just need Arval which means you need to do NG+. you also need to have recruited byleth in the game before your NG+ playthrough to get arval to unlock.

[@ThatTCG]

@@stormshadowoffire and kill Byleth in that ng+

[@Emperorwolf999]

...why are they blonde? They're supposed to be green

[@elliot_rat]

i literally came here to ask the same question who BLEACHED them 😭

[@elliot_rat]

blonde jumpscare

[@tektonik4616]

wait... isn't Arval a guy? why is he a Gremory?

[@jet_set8648]

I have the exact same question! It might have something to do with Shez’s gender, since when I got arval as male shez he was a dark bishop Was the player character on the file you got arval a boy or a girl?

[@jet_set8648]

Wait it was answered in another comment lmao Shez and arval share genders apparently which makes sense

[@MrGksarathy]

Because this Shez is female.

[@bradDark6941]

@@jet_set8648 it's because I think arvals form Is male.. while his true form as epidimenides is actually female. Remember arval was just a fraction split off of her conscious so Arval wasn't exactly complete before the secret mission

[@ashencometmom5291]

epimenedes is simply built different

[@jessicafoster1196]

I wonder why their hair was lighter in the past.

[@dyleeyte2550]

Hair dye

[@KoeniginLogia]

Why are they suddenly blonde? Is this a mod?

[@rurijo3169]

It’s so odd seeing them blonde…

[@GrandAngel8000]

I actually hated the route where you recruit Byleth ... because Arval is best character.

[@moonmoon2479]

Really? Considering all you have seen, that’s what you think? Jesus.

[@GrandAngel8000]

​@@moonmoon2479 Arval is not Epidemedes. They are quite different. Arval is an adorable brother who is sadly a vessel for the antagonist.