FBI's Most Wanted Con Artist Reveals Loopholes in The System

FBI's Most Wanted Con Artist Reveals Loopholes in the System. Order the book: amzn.to/2UAyhcA Former Con Artist Matthew Cox in a sit-down with Patrick Bet-David at the Valuetainment studio in Dallas, TX.
About: Matthew Bevan "Matt" Cox is an American former mortgage broker and admitted mortgage fraudster. Cox, also an aspiring author, wrote an unpublished manuscript entitled The Associates in which the main character traveled the country to perpetrate a mortgage fraud similar to the one Cox ran.
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[@InsideTrueCrime]

Happy everyone seems to be enjoying the podcast, thank you again Patrick for having me on!

[@zac3392]

Matt did some of ur comments on here get erased? Hope ur doing well man...

[@InsideTrueCrime]

I hadn’t noticed, but it’s possible.

[@InsideTrueCrime]

Seriously, I wish I was in a position to hire someone. I was just released from prison and I’m struggling to get myself on my feet. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@riphihe]

I was getting angry several times hearing about you getting all this money but at 1:02:31 "It'll come to you" 😂🤣🤣😂 That had me laughing my ass off.

[@InsideTrueCrime]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[@2020visionproduction]

“Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank,Give a man a Bank and he can rob the world “-Wellick

[@geno816]

Wow. Mind blown

[@DKerb]

2020visionproduction 👍🏾

[@boom7713]

This quote is based on the quote "What is the robbing of a bank against the founding of a bank?" by Berthold Brecht

[@jamesolivito4374]

The crazy thing is it's just paper . Debt notes backed by nothing . Basicly scamming the scammers, the ultimate sting . They hate being beat at their own game using their own game plan . The whole thing is insanity .

[@radekkaderka8472]

Give a man a degree in Fine arts and he can rob mortgage companies

[@ppumpkin3282]

Listening to this explains more about how the 2008 recession happened more than any book, movie, or congressional hearing.

[@Mr1998Brandonify]

My thoughts exactly

[@justinschexnayder8485]

The govt got rid of the regulations stopping companies from buying this doo doo debt also

[@reggaevibes100]

The changing the required paperwork to get a loan to go through was happening at every broker house in the country. I had a lot of friends that were loan officers and it ran ramped everywhere prior to 2008. On top of that, borrowers where terrible with their money. They would start the loan refinancing proccess to pay off credit cards, but then would do things like buy a brand new BMW before the financing went through. A hiccup would happen in the low interest loan proccess and they would accept an adjustable rate loan just to get it processed since they already spent the money. A couple years later, the rate changes and now they can't afford the rate from the interest jumping. They start defaulting and we have 2008. I literally watched the prossess happen. Even my loan officer friends could see the problem, but nobody understood what the consequences would lead to. Add in banks doing irresponsible stuff too, and we have 2008.

[@Newlinjim]

@@reggaevibes100that was the era of government group think of ‘everyone’ should have access to homeownership because it was seen as the foundation of generational wealth. LOL.

[@victorowens9150]

​@@NewlinjimThat's the story they sold. They knew what would happen, it was orchestrated by the banks, Wall Street and the Fed. To top it off it was endorsed by Congress.

[@JC_inc]

His hustle was still better than selling drugs. This is the closest thing to the movie Catch Me if You Can.

[@portaadonai]

He was living large for 3 years, then spent 26 years in prison. Anyone making that choice GOT HUSTLED... You cannot escape the consequences of evil choices

[@ryanholiday4329]

Most of the time the punishment and time is much less. I could steal 50 million through white collar fraud and get 5-10 years first offense. Get caught selling a couple ounces of crack and get 25+ years.

[@nejm612]

Catch me if you can is a true story, if you didn't know. In fact, the movie is watered down. Read the book! (the audiobook might be on KZbin)

[@King-jx3kx]

@@portaadonai 🤣 shut up. You must be the banks he stole from, we don't like you, KZbin isn't the place for you.

[@portaadonai]

@@King-jx3kx Im an electrician from CA so now we know you know nothing

[@eugenevaticinator4540]

To everyone saying a degree in the arts is worthless.. I give you creativity in its finest form

[@samuelfox8126]

Liberal arts....very liberal lol. Also called humanities bahahahaha

[@jacobsladder6715]

😂

[@olguiq1013]

👏👏👏👏👏👏 ..... Learning some creativity here

[@leonardonovara9348]

The guy is an expert manipulator and persuader. No one can teach you that....well, maybe the CIA. But you still need natural talent.

[@KingGandhi66]

@J K Oh snap son

[@jalenn757]

What a crazy story, should definitely be made into a Netflix series

[@JohannesRunquist]

Leonardo Di Caprio can play the lead role...

[@fordaloveofmusic]

the show white collar is close enough, based off catch me if you can starring Leonardo Di Caprio

[@3boud84]

they did an episode on american greed on him

[@1life857]

@@3boud84 Yep and I watched it back then when it first aired, crazy world!

[@rollme1kenobi914]

@Dawud Storm well so is matt cox lol

[@davidmkrtchyan3411]

As a high pressure salesman, this man has a talent. The way he talks. His intonations. They’re perfect. If I could talk like that, I would be rich.

[@taco5467]

They really are!

[@danepanaligan829]

@@taco5467 &

[@csonracsonra9962]

You're right that's why he's rich and I believe he will become president one day, everything is based on your social skills and intuition and how well you can convey them through speech edit... I forget he wasn't born here so if he was born here he would be president

[@mojo6112]

@@csonracsonra9962 yes, the chance of someone wanting to running for president and getting elected are very high, infact, they're certain.

[@AngelPerezComedy]

Scammer voice. Idk how anyone falls for it.

[@AmusementForce]

I came here to learn this stuff I'm not gonna lie...

[@ek07305]

Learning fraud? Really? That means you also need to learn how to go through a 30 year bid.

[@Jdalio5]

I want to move to tampa and start MY mortgage company back up just to be like, yo Matt hypothetically speaking...

[@HerculesRockefellerESQ]

The sad thing is, I'd bet a lot of the shit he is describing would still work.

[@NaniMarquiz]

😂😂😂

[@englishmenintown8622]

I am South African and spent a year in the USA, I got a socal security number you can use....I'm in South Africa so I am faaaaar from the problem hahaha

[@StRaWbeRrYsasha]

Us Jamaicans like to say, "Theif never love to see thief with long bag". Translation: the biggest theives and fraudsters, banks and the government never want to see people doing the same as them.

[@eyeneyemusic]

🇯🇲

[@gerardolozadluna4149]

You're actually right you hit the spot lots of the Gangnam words and bankers that's why he was an FBI that's where he learned he was in the rice coal detectives FBI CIA federal government C2 Financial CD lawmakers and all work the same

[@rohan692]

You fake Jamaicans

[@mofo6724]

Bombaclads!!!

[@minimal2224]

@@rohan692 Fake Patois

[@elijahdvine3097]

Matthew McConaughey would play him perfectly in a movie!

[@clairesucks]

I love how this guy gets plastic surgery but not to change his appearance. Just to look younger. Lol!

[@dakotataylor8779]

True or Edward Norton

[@creamygreentrees6891]

I feel like Ryan Gosling would do play him good

[@Dantectez]

Wtf absolutely not😂

[@AnnaLexi]

*_Lol right?!! He hella looks like MM!!_* 😄

[@gmchammer]

As a banker this guy is pretty genius

[@pamgilbert2033]

This poured salt on my personal wounds. My husband refinanced our house thru Countrywide in 2007 without me and ended up losing it after we had been living there since 1989. Then he committed suicide and at 57 I became a widow. I'm still trying to recover and it has been nine years. I was married 37 yrs and we met when were 16. Just saying damn.

[@estlola2317]

So so sorry for your loss. That's really terrible

[@elisscaliving4776]

Damn that’s a crazy story

[@365LiveBetter]

I’m sorry for your loss. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@livingaboard]

Why would your husband go behind your back and refinance the mortgage?

[@pamgilbert2033]

@@livingaboard my husband had no intentions of refinancing our home, until Countrywide called and persuaded him to do it. They didn't care what he did as long as they "helped him". The transaction was technically not legal. There was a class action law suit, but I didn't get any benefit from it. Long story but that is a ride but.

[@jonrussell7590]

“You always think you’re clever until the judge is looking at you saying , what are you doing “ LMAOO 😭

[@yomoabrahma]

Commotion to Consciousness 😂

[@keenovgodz2238]

For every criminal caught there 5 that havent been caught remember that.

[@s58018]

No not always but see first age stage what they made with fbi house very bad so i began to thing serouce

[@s58018]

Ok let me explain serioucerr and be very harder in thinksssss in real with my man i can do have much idiea new so what bether

[@19inkorrect91]

Keen Ov Godz yet!

[@moshe003]

That spirit of fraud is still in him. Can’t hide it.

[@strokesidedesigns-rowingje5373]

I feel the same. This guy is a devil ehehe

[@joejoefasho4267]

Sociopath that’s why, wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him

[@floggyWM1]

@@strokesidedesigns-rowingje5373 prolly doing this for the probation officer.. once he off the probation... u wont see him again

[@JustAnotherJarhead]

@@floggyWM1 Just using Greedy people's Greed against them, and capitalizing on existing loopholes. Which btw...Did you listen, the loopholes are Still wide open.

[@floggyWM1]

@@JustAnotherJarhead i dont see how he was using greedys peoples greed against them, when he said he has stole many peoples identities and took out loans on houses that he rented from other people while on the run..

[@cosmoseinfeld1]

Matt tells his full story on his own channel "inside true crime". Its over 6 hours long and is one of the best stories, if not the best ive ever heard. The entire thing is gripping from start to finish!

[@inkedBc]

His story is a joke dude told on someone to get out his own bull crap and who he told on had nothing to do with him or his case 😂 . Meaning who he told on was not the reason the police was knocking at his door and he just tells on his friend he knows is doing illegal things so he could get off on his case 😢 dude did all this illegal things and tells on someone that had nothing to do with his case dudes a coward

[@inkedBc]

And not only that he makes videos reacting to things he knows nothing about I literally laugh at this guy thinking he can speak on prison when he was in the lowest security federal prisons around child and women touchers

[@cosmoseinfeld1]

@@inkedBc he did 4 years in medium before moving to low. Admittedly he can be a boomer when it comes to some of his reactions but hes trying his best as a 50 year old recently released from prison to catch a break, im rooting for him, and however amateurish some of his videos might sometimes be, im highly entertained by his channel

[@cosmoseinfeld1]

@@inkedBc i see you have your own, smaller prison channel? You should message him for a collab!

[@Jamalquentinjr]

@@inkedBc did you really put the morality of a conman into a position of judgement? American intelligence truly has decayed. You do realize he's not a gangster but a conman? You're viewing him based on your own perception of your own world of crime which is not the same as his. From that I can assume you're not a very intelligent individual.

[@globalnomad1221]

He’s more coherent and honest than most politicians- go figure

[@TheObeyMayhem]

he's no different.

[@kevinclark2566]

Patrick's sitting here like, "damn, this guy's a God damn genius" lol

[@amikamisrael]

Jeremiah 4:22

[@obtainuniversal5072]

Lol

[@CIOZimbabwe]

@@amikamisrael Powerful word!

[@moniquemonicat]

Replace word "genius" with FOOL and you're onto something.

[@moniquemonicat]

@@amikamisrael "For My people are foolish, They have not known Me. They are silly children, And they have no understanding. They are wise to do evil, But to do good." [Jeremiah 4:22] For those that won't bother to look it up.

[@amitpalbains9361]

I don’t see any regret on this mans face and that’s scary for the banks because this dude is really smart.

[@hi-ye4rz]

Thats true but he seams he has got control of himself

[@KMF3]

And he said he has a learning disability. I don't think so

[@adria886]

@@KMF3 he has dyslexia

[@theyluvfetti]

Fuck the banks good for this dude

[@mikehawk9099]

My take is he'll do nothing stupid for the sake of his mother, to be able to visit her until she passes. He probably would do everything to avoid putting her through that again, he seems to genuinely love her. BUT after the fact, it'll be game on 😂

[@sandiez777]

This interview was awesome! I think that he was smarter than he wants you to think. Brutally honest. Thank you Patrick. Another great interview...

[@virgilkane7369]

" The medium cost for a home in Ybor City went from 50 grand to 250 grand " because of this guy . Incredible .

[@treetop5752]

Look it up. It affected the ENTIRE COUNTY

[@ryanf591]

This guy's Social Engineering skills are stellar

[@deadrabbit7418]

Cox is a beast

[@KalboVello]

He's funny as fu... as well.

[@themomentalist]

Pablo Gonzalez That’s WHY his Social Engineering skills are stellar.

Ryan F Thats why he stole 12 million dollars he has that weapon called charisma

[@Dream-bebe]

What an interview:

[@tommydenato8863]

Of all the mob and other interviews he's done, he's NEVER been this interested before.

[@jameslee5323]

The first thing he has to mention is the fine arts degree, what a legend!!!

[@saulremihernandez314]

Pat probably hired him to sell life insurance as soon as the cameras stopped rolling. These two guys were simpatico.

[@rassclat122]

Mob stories are more or less the same thing, probably gets slightly boring

[@JoniAntonio]

Pat had a R.E background...

[@Yotrymp]

@@saulremihernandez314 LOL that's what I was thinking. They aren't that different.

[@ColinCampbell]

Patrick, thank you for putting in the time and resources to make these interviews. They are world-class. Your questions, your composure and ability to build rapport, the people -- it's amazing content.

[@smugglemuffins]

I couldn’t agree more

[@michaeldoran4367]

MATHEW COCKS RAMS A GIRTHY VEINY BLACK KOK INTO A STEAMY BUT WHOLE

[@davidwilliamson8502]

“Have you seen the accountant?” “I missed a lot of movies…”

[@nastysavage9907]

I'm still asking myself why he asked that question. Matthew is nothing like Ben Affleck's character. I'm also wondering if Patrick could see right thru this guy like I could. Like anyone could tbo. This dude is a chameleon. I've watched some of his guest spots on podcast, even his own podcast, and he plays a character. I became interested when I heard Matthew talk about Tampa and the surrounding area. I grew up in St. Pete. The co-host from his podcast Matthew Cox/Inside True Crime lives in Tampa. Who happens to be locked up in Hillsborough County Jail awaiting trial for Stimulus Check Fraud. Lol. Matthew has to know the details, but isn't talking about it. Matthew talks about not having a problem snitching on people on his podcast. Dude's a rat. A Narcopath.

[@ashylarry3442]

“Something doesn’t feel right about this transaction...I just can’t put my finger on it” “It’ll come to you.” 😏

[@samuelfox8126]

Legendary!!! Lol

[@soxrule74]

Hahahaha! Hilarious

[@rubyparchment5523]

Ashy, it took guts to post that pic from your mom's basement.

[@Justforthelulz8]

I laughed my ass off 😂

[@michaeltheimmortal]

I can't believe he said that, rofl.

[@iJashan]

*I see Matthew Cox, I click, I watch*

[@iJashan]

ufarley chuck You know, I don’t know. I’ve heard and read the story thousands of times. But each time is more and more interesting.

[@shototodoroki4816]

maybe its not his real name

[@iJashan]

Eric Picho Lol, good one.

[@MrNacho1955]

He’s a genius lol I worked at New century mtg , Countrywide , BOFA , AAmes home loans , we had a fraud system that would verify the social and they would kill the loan if it didn’t pass

[@batubulgur]

Out of all the podcasts Matt has done, you can see PBD milking information out of Matt and thinking about fraud preventative measures. Other guys just amazed and chilled out. PBD is so engaged, it brings about Matt's story as a side product. I think Matt should do deep-dive podcasts with competent people in the mortgage industry for us to see everything more clearly. PBD simply by being a business guy, analyzed Matt's story in a different light. Good stuff guys!

[@dtrain138]

I worked in mortgages for a few years and some of this stuff sounds familiar, but MAN, this dude went ALL OUT!

[@saniquekonneh3396]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nightingaleofficial3604]

I couldn’t find anything that he said about mortgage and appraisal practices that was a flat out lie.

[@friendly_italian4928]

He did the absolute maximum most lmao

[@JTcadillac]

He made a fake bank! 😂

[@jaejackson5244]

I love being a black man. Absolutely love it. But I'd be lying if I denied ever thinking how sweet it would be to have that white privilege he got while I was doing the scam/hustle/jackin thing in my young an dum years

[@henryigugu7027]

Pat... its like you've said a lot of times: "pick one industry and become an expert..." and that's what he did!!! No diversification here. He found a "business model" that worked and scaled it. That's a huge lesson I got for legit businesses.

[@InsideTrueCrime]

henry igugu 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@InsideTrueCrime]

Lol! It was a continuing criminal enterprise. Specifically, the law categorize it as an enterprise or a business model that is illegal. So, it is kind of a business, I’ll be at extremely illegal. Not something I would duplicate. LOL!

[@Santiagoacph]

@@InsideTrueCrime I’m highly impressed sir, very clever👌🏽

[@lilc5353]

​@remixgod4496 formula that worked for the time being 😮

[@mitchellphillips2800]

Patrick looking how to play defense with homie giving him the offensive plays 😂

[@pamsunstrom2554]

this is how our politicians evolve. They start out with good intentions then the culture corrupts their minds with money and power. This was one great story!

[@onesmoothcat]

Absolutely....

[@wmurray003]

He always has said he has a "Learning disability", but he is intelligent as hell.

[@jacklondon8845]

He is...and knows the Matrix and how to exploit it well.

[@guycrevier9402]

Apparently he never stopped learning. He may have been a slow learner because he was taking the time to really learn it well.

[@membersonly807]

Learning disability = / = beeing intelligent

[@membersonly807]

Google = 2E High IQ connection between learning disabilities and high IQ

[@kevinparsley6806]

learning disability only means one doesnt learn in conventional ways... it looks like a disability because the system isnt set up to interface with the individual.

[@NeatoLino]

When he was talking about not leaving because of his mom. That's real.

[@TheHeretic435]

Surprised the shit out of me. I'm this guy, but almost no contact with fam.

[@anlu3365]

Lino Jaramillo really? Did you pay attention? How can a narcissist be so caring about somebody else?

[@Prodigal971]

@@anlu3365 well momma is momma regardless of the devil u r... But once that glue that keeps him in check goes; then prepare for the return of the devil

[@Bigjonstud187]

@@TheHeretic435 u aint him bro hes on another level

[@angeljar2012]

Yes that was commendable.

[@HappyRetiredandhealthy-qk2lg]

Thanks for this excellent show, Matt Cox is really interesting with his genius IQ

[@lisacooley887]

I know one of the guys, that started eagle lending, I remember him telling me, he was leaving there, and I thought that was strange, haven't heard anything about them until now.

[@josealvarado8842]

This man has been caught plenty of times and STILL managed to stay ice cold cool under pressure, Secret Service was after him and everything. What he did was wrong but really admire how cool, calm, and collected he remained the whole time until he finally went to jail. Good interview!

[@babergill2890]

Exactly!! If you are caught always act calm, cool, & collected!!!

[@gunnarholbrook7128]

@@babergill2890 easier said than done ! Haha

[@ryancooper3449]

@@gunnarholbrook7128 easier when ur a sociopath/psycopath with 0 remorse

[@svenkonig453]

@@Okhero777 Well he is a narcissist so... its not like he was "talented" he literally lacks the capacity for empathy. I'd anticipate half of his relationships are a lie as explained there.

[@BTeeper]

@@svenkonig453yea…. I think the fact that the guy is cool calm and collected when committing these crimes is a pretty good indicator that this dude is a narcissist. He admits to it, and owns up to him being a rat but the main point we should put across is….. just make money legally and do the right things.

[@hepburndavis296]

Never underestimate the power of creativity, self confidence and a glib tongue. A successful con artist must possess all of those qualities.

[@maakasmr3156]

You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal.

[@maakasmr3156]

@Headshot Heist You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal

[@pettyofficer30]

I've NEVER been bored of this channel! Great interview

[@karlavargas5413]

Someone that's in the mortgage business for 20 years like me. Is crazy to hear this James Bond story.

[@jms4406]

The power of suggestion and calm confidence goes a long way.

[@weezalicious]

That bit about him sticking around for his amazing mom makes me know this is a solid dude.

[@quickdeuce]

Agree, in spie of all the crimes he committed, all the people he took with him to prison, he does love his Mom. On that point alone he's shown he's a human being.

[@denniskalashnik98]

I don’t buy it.

[@tylerkuykendall7771]

Y’all are fucked in the head.... he’s on probation

[@bluewaters3100]

@@tylerkuykendall7771 You aren't on probation forever. I think he also is thinking that he wants to be there for his mom.

[@yuridelcastillo220]

@@denniskalashnik98 Did your B.S. meter go off too. .? This guy knows one thing and one thing ONLY. . And, that's HOW to manipulate the SYSTEM. . So, everybody knows that we live in the digital age right. .? So, if he lives in Florida is not that big of a deal just as long as he has a computer and the internet he's still in business. . And, this whole thing about him caring for his Mom, well that's his perfect cover. .

[@JohnS-er7jh]

the pathetic thing with this whole story though, is if this guy was a legitimate consultant and made a report for these companies (and government regulatory agencies) that would have highlighted these loopholes and how to prevent scams, he would have just been scoffed at (nobody would have seen any value in a report like this years ago). It is the same with information systems security, for a very long time companies didn't want to take it seriously (nor did they want to spend money on increasing their info systems security measures, including hiring more dedicated qualified security experts). It is not until they get hacked (like what happened with Heartland Payment Systems, numerous major retailers and banks, Experian, Colonial Pipeline, the list goes on and on). When it comes to more recent hacks with Ransomware, I think it is finally forced a lot of Government Agencies and Private companies to take security more seriously (since they are required to pay out money to the hackers in some cases, rather then just cover it up with cases like a data breach where customer private financial data is stolen).

[@phanx0m924]

and the gov't's even worse 😅. Imagine if there were no FBI LOL

[@joedemaio7025]

One of the best interviews I've ever seen, and def his best interview

[@ivanaradonjic2527]

The first thing he has to mention is the fine arts degree, what a legend!!!

[@DramaDigital]

3 credit cards, 6 months, make payments = good credit score. Thanks bro

[@trezantrez]

Mike Ell how ? I’m trying to tap in

[@alecsilva85]

deez nutz this man gonna finesse the hell out of you

[@reterumstrict1091]

Space Monkey lmfao

[@brian23221]

*Secured credit cards

[@asiaking9422]

Lmao

[@nightingaleofficial3604]

That moment when Matt thought Pat was judging him using news articles about accidents-priceless 🤣🤣

[@antonioluzotonio9666]

Real estate is a rip off Never understood why a 100 year old house is still high value

[@enlightenedwarrior7119]

People in that area got there houses appraised and said holy shit my 50k house is worth 600k over night lol

[@b.williams9473]

Until property tax time.

[@classicrocklover5615]

And thus, Zillow was born....

[@kadenporter1832]

Mat

[@gullybull5568]

incorrect.

[@Girrrrrrrr]

So glad Matt gets an actual interviewer to interview him! Ask him about his fine arts degree!

[@sportingsharksfcnfts5211]

I love when Ex Cons of amazing scams come out with their scam stories. Some of them are so genius! Some scams are so easy too. Life is best when you’re doing the right thing with solid morals and values

[@catherinesperoni5475]

He is very intelligent and extremely modest. I hope he does well in his new life.

[@brianmarabe1103]

The guy is a genius, Patrick is just looking for loopholes in his business.

[@zorroonmilkavitch1840]

There's definitely stuff to learn you're for sure

[@karlfulton4854]

He's not a genius he's a reckless spiv.. A theif who ruins peoples lives.. INCLUDING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOME AND FAMILY COMMITTE SUICIDE.. ' Do not revel in your sin '

[@jameslinmd]

He is. His IQ is 139/140... way above average of 100.

[@stephenward6900]

@@karlfulton4854 both can be true

[@dannymadrid1822]

@@karlfulton4854 agreed!

[@statusclothing94]

This is the guy they caught just to set an example, imagine all the people that didn’t get caught 🤔 That’s insane lol

[@chadjackson4786]

now you know how illegal immigrants get social numbers and fake id's

[@statusclothing94]

Chad Jackson i understand why you said that but that was random & ignorant to say. The majority of illegal immigrants do not have nearly as much knowledge as someone like Michael to use that info for any malicious intent. Last time I checked I havnt seen illegal immigrants cause an economy to crash, more then once. Do the research CHAD & let the immigrants work ,thrive & even ADD to their communities. God bless & stay clean 🙏🏼

[@tylerkuykendall7771]

Hahaha 😂

[@markjaramillo1203]

Sooner or later everyone gets caught

[@kslikk34]

Well now they know how😂😂😂😂

[@huntergrant6520]

My dad did this for a living. He had multiple identities. He focused on insurance fraud. He would take the money from all the claims and make various small/medium businesses. He was gifted at running legit businesses. But he was a violent know it all. Treated everyone like garbage unless he thought you were potentially useful. Then he was charming and just happened to be your lucky day.

[@glennmaxwell5394]

Fucking hell, real man

[@erikhayes44]

I love watching all of Matthew Cox’s podcast interviews

[@EweCantHandletheTruth]

Patrick is looking at him like "I want to hire this guy to work for me doing something but I'm not too sure what to hire him for"...

[@artscraftsantiquity2185]

The fraud department.

[@davidmkrtchyan3411]

“It’ll come to you”

[@Yotrymp]

He'd be perfect for Patrick's business.

[@adriandoe1090]

@@davidmkrtchyan3411 perfect 🤣

[@rashadtaylor8196]

👍🤣😎

[@tomikola1864]

the true genius of this guy is that he did all that and got away with only 12 years! and I`m sure he`s got some cash stashed somewhere. truly brilliant !

[@paulagreen6505]

You have an ability to find the most interesting guests - but they have found one of the kindest, most observant hosts - who after all, is learning how to protect himself from characters such as this should they ever try their shtick on you and yours. What a brilliant and interesting man. I absolutely did not want that man to be guilty. His stories were told with excitement, no choking or forgetting, so you know it isn't made up... he is a storyteller! Slick as they get ... and charming. I can understand how he made such a great living. It would be a perfect match for him b'cuz he is so tightly wired, he needs to keep things interesting in his life at that age -- good thing he calmed down since he had a lot of time to think of it. Great Show! Didn't want it to end.

[@justinchamberlain3443]

11:20 order 3 secured credit cards 16:01 liar loans 29:20 brings up getting 2-3 secured credit cards 1:08:01 quick claim deed

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Patrick can get along with anyone, even if they’re an ex-con

[@TomOostenrijk]

It's called professionalism. Or part of the job, as you will.

[@jinxluvver3909]

TrickZ Retz yes

[@cyndialger8704]

What about ex-cons? Every politician is a flippin Con, you still vote, it's just "legal" if your a president, cheers

[@scott3594]

Matt Cox is a very likable guy

[@venaz12009]

@@TrickZ_Retz oh no convicts are abnormal (forseer) to the normal (dull minded) bcoz theyr thinkerz n 5 stepz ahead of normal. Especially when theyr bored, the need for action overrides their humaness. Like this guy...he wae able to out wit the bank, n thats their job! Spontaneous is their HiGH not drugs. Im not a criminal or convict. But i was in love w one for 20yrs...and i understood his mind, the way he thought, his need for action. He was fun...adventurous, n innovative. I miss him.

[@andrel5234]

Everyone saying how good they feel this interview was should read his book. It's enthralling

[@eduardomartinez1615]

What's the name of the book

[@baraka256]

@@eduardomartinez1615 Shark in the housing pool

[@Jdorje-]

He did 10 years doing 40 million and Jordan belfort did 2 years scamming 150 million. What a joke

[@regalsurvivor3418]

This guy got more time because his form of scamming was way more intelligent and cunning plus he wasn't a member of any mafias.

[@davidkirst1077]

PBD should have this guy back on and see how he’s doing now and talk with him about what Matt’s been up too and if he’s still on the straight and narrow.

[@Cuete590]

He seems to be doing pretty good I was at the gym the other day on the treadmill and I seen him on tv doing commercials now for mortgage companies

[@dannydora1096]

Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner "Heat (1995)"

[@jcrif]

I am totally fascinated by the minds of these criminals, they could be your next door neighbor who just got carried away with things

[@tonydio666]

They are your neighbors who had things go wrong or they chose their path in life.

[@edstevens4439]

Where do they get the guts to maintain that facade...

[@DonDraperism]

Jordan Belfort got carried away as he started out as legitimate. This guy made an immediate decision to commit massive fraud which does affect other people. I saw no remorse in this interview as he states he's up to do it again. This is a bad person.

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

@@edstevens4439 Personality disorders

[@TaGz-qv1nn]

@@DonDraperism not really lol if affected the banks.

[@joseph1172]

It's not that hard to manipulate. 2 simple rules i have. Tell them what they want to hear. And second, tell them what they want you to say. Simple.

[@Yotrymp]

Yeah, just lie.

[@ttenkrut]

Patrick I'm straight binging on these epic interviews. Great upload!!

[@slevin741]

This Guy is a genius. Fooled everybody almost got away.

[@duallylicensed145]

stripes right. Just got too greedy yet at same time, if ur going to take the risk you got get paid

[@Mikenoynoy]

It wasn't greed.... It was the girlfriend😜

[@mr99501]

Is there a such thing as a "economic terrorist "?

[@GenericHandleHaver]

@@mr99501 George Soros

[@rickjason1786]

Reminds me of The Fountain Pen Conspiracy

[@gio_32]

You see how many parents open bills in their children’s names using their SSN’s. Goes to show you they don’t check this stuff

[@arasb3258]

This will be a crazy movie. The ultimate crazy "prankster" to the max! Just insane!

[@joea3235]

Just thinking, back then I did business with alot of those lending institutions he mentioned. This story really hit home!

[@wascallywabbit3372]

"is this Michael Shanahan?" "yes it is" rewatched that part so many times😂 and "it'll come to you" WHAT

[@joshm1352]

Did he mention he has a degree in fine arts?

[@adrianandersson8472]

Been watching Koncrete podcasts i see 😅

[@vanguard4065]

he has a degree in fine farts

[@sushidonut579]

What you did there...I see it.

[@mabeamaintenance4390]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stupidminotaur9735]

lol.... another worthless college degree.

[@paakmaan660]

I was a broker back then and I had boss tell me,”if you don’t screw them someone else will”. 👀🤯

[@currybase]

"Im not reading anything-I have a learning disability." But he's writing books.🤣

[@themusicman4u46582]

People think this guy is a villain? No no no no my friends... he’s brilliant. Banks, government institutions, etc have been fucking us for years. All Matt did was return the favor. I say he’s a hero

[@parisattic]

What he aided caused the Great Recession. Were you able to stay gainfully employed during those years? Did you lose your home due to foreclosure? How did you fare?

[@themusicman4u46582]

@@parisattic what happened to me is irrelevant. It’s survival of the fittest

[@parisattic]

@@themusicman4u46582 I feel sorry for you, my friend. That's not what true life is.

[@sky.the.infinite]

@@parisattic I think he was too young (or perhaps too wealthy) to have been affected by it. Which automatically makes him not care. Don’t take it personal.

[@parisattic]

@@sky.the.infinite Thank you Sky 💕 I hadn't consider the folly of youth. I'm still heartbroken when I meet folks who were directly affected, who lost their homes. It's the complicit factor that I find callus. Those people, they earn their lives of 'unjustified' pain.

[@huabills6621]

He could work for the big 4 as a auditor. LMAO. He could make some serious money legally.

[@sagehammerstrom2971]

They need to make a movie on this guy especially with the cops who don’t notice the most wanted man in America is right in front of them😂😂🥂

[@lizweekly1483]

This was an awesome interview, Patrick! Thank you.

[@loganlostit]

This guys sense of loyalty to his aging mother is amazing. I had a similar situation with my grandmother and "hung around" til she went on home RiP and i just had to say that right there is the best relationship ive ever had . Badass interview

[@yesmaam4258]

Wow that's what you got out of this scam... amazing.

[@gio_32]

This story is laid out with much more clarity on Koncrete. I love watching this guy his story is incredible!

[@stiiimes]

Famous last words: "things are going too well for me to fuck up"

[@PolPot-ef1qq]

It's so ripe for fraud. I always thought the Mortgage system was designed to steal your money. Looks like this guy is stealing from those that do the stealing, he's got my stamp of approval.

[@Cuete590]

The system set up to buy a home is absolutely insane I bought a condo in Mexico in a gated community and it was wayyyy less of a hassle… in the US they damn near want to take an x ray of you before you buy a home

[@FortressFortification]

"Well I'm not saying I'm not a sociopath what I'm saying is I'm not a pathological liar" This guy is so quotable

[@InsideTrueCrime]

Norwegian Polarbear 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@xmidgewon736]

All this guy did was capitalize on the loopholes in the broken, corrupt banking system.... problem is that he didnt have the political connections that could cover for his ass, like the fed reserve and all banksters r doing today; on a much larger scale.

[@JustAnotherJarhead]

Exactly

[@SiggMark]

Let’s see you pull it off so easily hater.

[@xmidgewon736]

@@SiggMark who said i was hating on using the available loopholes moron? Smh

[@ethanharvey4869]

OnYx DoNT MisS If anything he was complimenting and justifying the things he pulled off , smh....

[@jamesbazzle91]

OnYx DoNT MisS teach me how to read like you

[@terenceblack472]

Patrick you are a genius for this interview…. Your craft of interviewing is at an all time high! Loved hearing his story and how you evaluated and translated that to risk management on the Corporate side… can’t wait for your next interview!!!!

[@Hexbet]

I enjoyed this. It wasn't as interesting as I find most of your interviews. But for some reason I found this very informative. I am very fortunate not to have work in this industry back in those days. I was selling cars, had a small dealership and lost it during the bank bailouts. A lot of this had a lot to do with me losing everything. But for some reason I completely related to this guy.

[@mustang19ms]

Misleading title, it should be a "How to" video

[@jdaily2293]

Been watching Matt since his first Koncrete podcast. Awesome to see him moving into more of the mainstream. His stories are so entertaining.

[@Lazarus_81]

🙋🏽‍♂️

[@atmosrepair]

Hell yeah me too!

[@Tee4U]

YES I did in the Mortgage business for 33 Years, Countrywide, IndyMac, Broker, GMAC, Chase and all!!

[@my_name_is_rhyme]

Aw, the mother son connection is beautiful

[@lawrencejones58]

I like how he's giving his mom her roses while he still can. He could probably be legit rich but remembered what she did for him. That's real!

[@h4ck3z]

@AnticommentWarrior thats another matthew j cox lol hes matthew b cox

[@johnny5xl]

If every woman treated their man like this guy treats his mom...this wouldn't have happened. Love this guy!

[@chasingsunsets87]

Lol his mom is not real. Please study sociopaths. She is a made up sob story. Can't believe you fell for that.

[@lawrencejones58]

@@chasingsunsets87 Yep, fell for that one hook, line, and sinker!

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

@@chasingsunsets87 I figured that he kept stuttering

[@360.Tapestry]

loophole: expecting people to do their job; they don't

[@ulyssesramirez9674]

ahahhhaah for real

[@maakasmr3156]

You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal.

[@jamallabarge2665]

People sink into habits. Get's em every time.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

This was fascinating more than usual I came up with a drinking game... Every time David says let me ask, take a shot

[@nat4581]

I was in real estate in Miami, Fl for over 10 yrs. In the 70's - 80's this was done all the time. Nothing new here.

[@goglik-ii3qf]

Keep in mind everybody, he’s got a degree in fine arts

[@malachi5813]

Creativity, modern art is con art

[@damianb2702]

Which he said right the way that is/was shit lmao

[@144Donn]

Amazing how Cox turns us from being horrified at his actions to understanding them and even, dare I say, being OK with them. Very complex indeed! And excellent probing questions by Pat to unfold the story.

[@InsideTrueCrime]

144Donn I know what I did was wrong and of course I regret it. However, nobody wants to see me constantly apologizing and crying about the sins of the past. I was asked to tell my story and I’m simply doing it to the best of my ability. 🤷🏼‍♂️ If I come off arrogant and a little bit obnoxious I apologize. I’m not trying to offend anyone.

[@roninreturns]

@@InsideTrueCrime , not in the least, on the contrary, your openness and candor, and honesty about the past, reveals the journey that your life has taken, what was learned, and how you've grown from those experiences. Few are willing to come clean about misdeeds, and show a true change of heart, and I'm glad you are using your skills and talents in a legitimate manner today to prosper. There is a lot to be learned, and if we can't look back occasionally at our wilder days and laugh, then we can hardly enjoy and progress forward in life. Lessons learned, pass on what you know and continue to contribute to society!

[@sabrewolf479]

"Nobody wants the FBI digging through their files." Just don't be a concerned parent and don't go to any school board meetings, and you'll be fine.

[@hlwanmoe1981]

This is wild