Reloading Room Confessions with Gavin from Ultimate Reloader

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F-Class John

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@mab0852
@mab0852 Жыл бұрын
Man, the gear was no surprise, but he's better stocked and with more variety of components than any reloading store I know about. Drooling at that wall of goodness.
@darreldodds8824
@darreldodds8824 Жыл бұрын
you 😊😢67890-
@chunglow7646
@chunglow7646 Жыл бұрын
Eggzackly so grasshopper
@papaswoodshop4873
@papaswoodshop4873 Жыл бұрын
I started watching Gavin about 15 years ago. He is the reason I started reloading. Now I am helping new shooters get into reloading. One of the things I tell all of the new guys is reloading is an addition you will not be able to break, nor will you want to.
@ErikCortina
@ErikCortina Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! 💪
@2pugman
@2pugman Жыл бұрын
Our "hobby" is worse than owning a boat ! $$$$$
@rethempthoor
@rethempthoor Жыл бұрын
Maestro
@Soulman6969
@Soulman6969 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Erik!!!!
@mikemarriam
@mikemarriam Жыл бұрын
My reloading eye opener was how much my groups improved. I've never shot $50 a box match ammo but my reloads were far better than anything I could afford to buy in the beginning.
@Jay4743
@Jay4743 Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely with you there on the "oh shit moment" when I fired my first reloaded round🤣 That's exactly how I felt lol! Great interview!
@RollinsBrown
@RollinsBrown 11 ай бұрын
Great interviewing. Great info. Thank you both.
@larryreinke6136
@larryreinke6136 Жыл бұрын
Good interview, been watching Gavin for years now.
@jamesmooney5348
@jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын
Awesome guys- Thanks... Love and appreciate what Gavin does, actually. As well as Guy. Keep it up guys.
@kevinhart313
@kevinhart313 Жыл бұрын
A class act and gentleman really appreciate all you do. When it comes to reloading Gavin is my guy!
@Justin-rr3bf
@Justin-rr3bf Жыл бұрын
As I’m subscribed to both of you I actually prefer watching you reloading it just seams more personal and in depth instead of scripted to just review products. Both channels are great
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that.
@garyreadler4886
@garyreadler4886 Жыл бұрын
WOW , what a workshop. I appreciate the interview. I look at mostly equipment you both use and review, then I search out that equipment and purchase if its in my budget. Thanks to both of you for your videos on the tube, its valuable information.
@johnsimonelli9988
@johnsimonelli9988 Жыл бұрын
John, I like your style. That was a great interview. Gavin was so relaxed and handled the questions well. Most enjoyable, Thank you.
@davidsalsedo
@davidsalsedo Жыл бұрын
Great interview John, Thank you for the great questions. Gavin can be cagy and hard to pin down on products but you did best bringing his well guarded personal opinion out. Thank you!
@patrickcolahan7499
@patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching Gavin for a long time. He does excellent analysis and presents the results in a logical and somewhat scientific manner. Something I really appreciate. First came across him when my buddy bought a commercial sewing machine from him. Thanks for sharing. Maybe we can see Gavin at an F-Class match some day.
@trevorkolmatycki4042
@trevorkolmatycki4042 Жыл бұрын
Bravo John… that was an excellent interview. Very interesting and entertaining. Your interviewing skills deserve commendation. Gavin is also a great interviewee… like wow… you showered him with a barrage of questions and he answered everything directly with almost no hesitation… even the difficult ones where he could get stuck choosing from a 1000 potential answers. I suspect that Gavin ranks very high in IQ intelligence… he is a very sharp man… but also down to earth and modest. The 99.9th percentile gear freak! The internet is a much more interesting place because of fellas like you and him! 😊👍🏼
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, I'm in Mensa and as you said I suspect Gavin is or could be as well.
@michaeldunn150
@michaeldunn150 Жыл бұрын
This was AWESOME!!! I love Gavin and his content of his channel.... He helped me when I first thought about starting reloading.....I love his products reviews. And that first bullet you do shoot in your gun is intense. I was nervous pulling that trigger for sure... Thanks for sharing this!!!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. It was awesome spending time with him.
@RMM--uv7uk
@RMM--uv7uk Жыл бұрын
Been following Gavin for years. He lives in my neck of the woods. Hope you enjoyed our beautiful state of Washington. Shooters paradise around here.
@jaymiller393
@jaymiller393 Жыл бұрын
Hell yes! Great job John!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@milo555100
@milo555100 9 ай бұрын
Excellent as always. Thank you
@NightSniper64
@NightSniper64 Жыл бұрын
I always tell people: If you're getting into reloading to save money, you don't want to start. Because when you get into it, the "Rabbit hole" is a very deep one. Almost endless.
@erikmcclure912
@erikmcclure912 7 ай бұрын
Like your comment, and YES that Rabbit really likes the best Carrots $$$$$$$$$.
@davej8045
@davej8045 Жыл бұрын
Great video and impressive collection of reloading solutions! It helped me to realize that 30 years of tool and die experience hasn’t made me quite as OCD as my girlfriend makes me feel. Swaging is the most tedious part of my reloading process and I believe that it offers better primer engagement than anything that actually removes material. I had to do a custom grind on an extra support rod to accommodate 6.8 SPC for my RCBS bench swaging tool. I use feeler gauges when switching between different case types and calibers to ensure the correct amount of lead in for the primers that gives me the right “feel” of resistance when priming. I think micrometer bullet seaters and dual ring sizing dies help ensure that everything that is produced far exceeds my skills.
@williambrown8683
@williambrown8683 Жыл бұрын
Great interview John.....you asked all the right questions. I have been a fan of yours and Gavins for some time. I have learned things from both of you and made decisions to buy equipment based on your videos......Love my Trijacon 10 mile......Thanks
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@kenbell8752
@kenbell8752 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for this great interview John. It was very interesting to see behind the scenes. I do follow Gavin, and I still did not realize he has so much equipment. Amazing!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Iscariot18
@Iscariot18 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right on load development. It's like after all these years it's still wide open. We don't have a specific process.
@FSU1HEMI1
@FSU1HEMI1 11 ай бұрын
Thank you f-class John for the awesome interview with Gavin toobe Ultimate Reloader he's a big part of why I'm a reloader to this day and I love the reloading videos You guys offer. It's a great pleasure for us the viewer.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, that's kind you to say and I'm glad the videos help.
@todhendricks5003
@todhendricks5003 Жыл бұрын
Great interview John. Damn Gavin, that’s a lot of hardware, impressive!!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it. More to come.
@davestein4162
@davestein4162 Жыл бұрын
Great insight and advice!
@philgarcia2097
@philgarcia2097 Жыл бұрын
Love the series and all the toys, way to go
@malcomsue
@malcomsue 9 ай бұрын
Great video, enjoyed the comedy and information.
@Johnsormani
@Johnsormani Жыл бұрын
Gavin did choose his yt channel name well back then: he is THE ultimate reloaded. I thought I had a surplus of reloading presses ( 8 ), but I rest my case after seeing this 😀. His channel is one of the best on gear. No BS and such a professional presentation !
@xtremearmor
@xtremearmor Жыл бұрын
Excellent Q&A session 👍🏻
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@knallis.hjemmelading
@knallis.hjemmelading Жыл бұрын
Great video, I follow Gavin for years now he's getting better and better and he's strength is good camera quality and he knows what he's talking about and ofcourse all the research that he does so I do understand that company like Dillon-Hornady-Lyman-Redding-Forester-Lee,and all the rest will send him gears to try out "I hope that he get them after" 🇺🇸🇳🇴👍
@JSomerled
@JSomerled Жыл бұрын
Great conversation.. love both your channels..
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@rudolphferdinand3634
@rudolphferdinand3634 Жыл бұрын
RCBS Summit press because of the shot-out 13/14 By Ultimate Reloader reloading presses I purchased the Summit press, and I love it!
@bennyboy6367
@bennyboy6367 Жыл бұрын
I've watched Ultimate Reloader for a long time. Gavin has impressed me in many ways. Recently I searched for a decapping die and found F-Class John, and was impressed with him as well. If I'm searching for something, and either of these guys have a video on the subject, then I'm watching.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say.
@esromvre
@esromvre Жыл бұрын
One of the best ones John.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Dayattherange
@Dayattherange Жыл бұрын
Great interview John -- Thanks
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@cw5865
@cw5865 Жыл бұрын
Great interview...
@bandite77
@bandite77 Жыл бұрын
I remember shooting my own first handloads. 308, high quality bolt action. But man I wasn't confident at all! A little scared and definitely a bit worried! But I didn't die and went on to shoot a decent group. And now years later so far down the rabbit hole... not 'Gavin far down' but... :D
@mikethebike67
@mikethebike67 Жыл бұрын
Great interview.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
@davidblaauw1806
@davidblaauw1806 Жыл бұрын
Great video’s John, you’re a true gentleman!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@rapidrrobert4333
@rapidrrobert4333 4 ай бұрын
I'm still using my RCBS Rock Chucker from the 1960s.
@manuelsuda
@manuelsuda Жыл бұрын
Great interview
@firstjohn3123
@firstjohn3123 Жыл бұрын
Back in the mid-late 1990's, I had to come up with a .338 Lapua hunting load with no data available. No reloading manuals except Vihtavuori existed. And certainly not with any regular or semi-custom hunting bullets. I actually nailed it on my 3rd round in the rifle, so at least all the math worked. That "wonder what's going to happen?" moment when you pull the trigger...especially on a (then) commercially new cartridge/rifle that had a reputation (history) for rifle & cartridge failures. Handloading was a necessity, commercial ammunition (even then) was $90/box, and selection was VERY limited. I could never imagine so much reloading stuff...wow.
@BamaDad
@BamaDad Жыл бұрын
Great Video John! I really enjoy the collaboration videos!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@foonus406
@foonus406 Жыл бұрын
And here I though I was lucky just to get 6000 primers.. what a stockpile you got there... Everything sitting in that room is making more money in appreciation than anything in the bank getting beaten up by inflation.
@russhayes4882
@russhayes4882 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff !
@scottnj2503
@scottnj2503 Жыл бұрын
John great question and interview of a very public personality in shooting. That said, my friends tease me about being a gear nut. In comparison I'm not in the same universe as Gavin. WoW!
@airborne350g
@airborne350g Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Between your, Gavin, and Erik y’all have spent quite a bit of my money. 🤣
@Mooreinlife84
@Mooreinlife84 11 ай бұрын
Nice behind the scenes. I knew Gavin had a lot of reloading and gunsmith equipment but the UR name is fitting. The audio is maxed on this. Be careful on headphones 😂
@joec7275
@joec7275 Жыл бұрын
Mak 90 was one of my firsts also, and I bought it while going to Universal Technical Institute in Phoenix Arizona back in 93. Kinda wish I still had it.
@prebaned
@prebaned Жыл бұрын
Time. Time is the issue. Been real close to where Gavin is now with presses, equipment, components, firearms, tooling, lathes, milling machines, etc.. problem is, so much time spent on loading, testing, research, tweaking, maintaining, etc..no time was left to just grab a rifle or two and go shoot to have fun.
@CRBW
@CRBW Жыл бұрын
Great to see your room behind the wall! Would love to see you review one of our Rem/Age pre-fits someday.
@jordanlesamiz4599
@jordanlesamiz4599 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, mine shoots “lights out”!!
@rob1135
@rob1135 Жыл бұрын
John, you just reinforced why Gavin truly is the ultimate reloader. And possibly why there is a supply chain issue when trying to buy issue reloading components or equipment … he has it all in his fortress.😂😂
@JSomerled
@JSomerled Жыл бұрын
😆
@1clnsdime1
@1clnsdime1 Жыл бұрын
That little lee app snagging setup is by far the best I have used and fast.
@yukon4545
@yukon4545 Жыл бұрын
Well done fellas!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@theLTrain700E
@theLTrain700E Жыл бұрын
I have the first round I loaded framed above my bench. Primer, powder charge, date, etc... I'm keeping that forever
@usmc249
@usmc249 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see the mess behind the camera and that my reloading bench is no different than his room except the quantity. I had an early 2000s .44 Taurus that broke also.
@dougputhoff3215
@dougputhoff3215 Жыл бұрын
Loved this
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 Жыл бұрын
I love watching Gavintoobe. Man he’s building some awesome PRS/Tactical precision type rifles these days.
@TheREALLibertyOrDeath
@TheREALLibertyOrDeath Жыл бұрын
He could do well building custom rifles for people
@richardphelan8414
@richardphelan8414 Жыл бұрын
A kid in a candy store ,Couldn't possibly be happier , For a re-loader it's a dream room pitch a cott and leave me to it definitely a dream shop
@tomjoseph1444
@tomjoseph1444 Жыл бұрын
Gee, I started with a Lee Loader for 30-06 when I was 12. I still have that loader and although I have had a bunch of presses and gear over the last 50 years, it reminds me to keep it simple.
@Bashe1965
@Bashe1965 Жыл бұрын
I've been reloading for over 30 years now, mostly single stage but I do have an old RCBS Green Machine progressive in 38/357 which I enjoy using. Every time I go to RCBS in Oroville CA to get a replacement part or something I tell them I have an old Green Machine they are always curious if I like the press and can make it operate reliably...haha The process of reloading is relaxing to me something I enjoy.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by the GREEN MACHINE because that's how most commercial loaders actual work. But for some reason everyone make personal loaders in a round design. But it's good to hear yours works because I know that was a frustrating machine for most people.
@payres48
@payres48 Жыл бұрын
Hi from Australia. Gavin's place in insane! All I have is a Hornady Classic Single stage press and one set of Hornady dies in .223. And I certainly don't have the stock of primers, powders and projectiles he keeps. Primers and powders are hard to find anyway, projectiles not so bad. I would love to spend a day at Gavin's place.
@ElfstersRiflesandReloading
@ElfstersRiflesandReloading Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Jelly!
@johnaustin6673
@johnaustin6673 Жыл бұрын
thank you... I have four summit presses going
@dargie12317
@dargie12317 Жыл бұрын
You actually have a reloading Museum Gavin ❤😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kcstott
@kcstott Жыл бұрын
Building your own rifle and making the ammo then going out and shooting a single hole five shot group is a very satisfying accomplishment.
@jerryw6699
@jerryw6699 4 ай бұрын
I'm 58, and a 3rd generation reloader and I don't think I have that much stuff. But I've got a load of neat old equipment, does Gavin do any bullet casting,, I've always been fond of that. And all the other stuff too.
@jamesmooney5348
@jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын
Impressive buildings.
@rustysranch2049
@rustysranch2049 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Mr F-Class, I have picked up heaps from you two "influencers" Keep up the good work!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@rustysranch2049
@rustysranch2049 Жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn Oh and the concreter... he's the other channel I frequent...
@wardo17
@wardo17 Жыл бұрын
It's good you admit you have an addiction!!🤣🤣
@repairfreak
@repairfreak Жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m currently getting ready to reload for the first time. I’m thrilled to get started as I FINALLY was able to purchase WLR primers after waiting about 1-1/2 years after buying my press. My press is a Redding T7 Turret Press with primer tube attachment. My reloads are going to be .243 Win. for a new Win mod 70. I have a standard Redding Deluxe 2 die set. Also have a Lee universal decap die. My goal is to shoot up my factory ammo and reload the brass to be as accurate or better than stock. I hope to be able to achieve at least 1 MOA at 100 yards with at least 3 shot groups or better. I have a Nikon 1” tube scope with 40mm objective with power at up to 12x. I was going to load Hornady V-Max 87 grain with either Win760 powder or IMR4895. However Hornady only lists Win760 powder for the V-Max 87 grain. However Speer sells a 85 grain 6mm Spitzer BTSP bullet that is similar to the 87 grain V-Max that lists load data using IMR4895 powder. Question: would I be alright using the 85 Speer data for the V-Max 87 grain with IMR4895, or should I just use the WIN 760 type ball powder that has a direct reference to the Hornady V-Max 87 grain bullets I already have. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. 😎👍
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you and congrats on getting started. I can't speak directly to what you're trying to load but in general I would tell you to stay as close to the recipes in the books as possible when your'e getting started and gradually you will learn how those can apply to other bullets, powder and brass.
@repairfreak
@repairfreak Жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn I understand, play it safe. I wouldn’t want to assume the responsibility either. I’ll use the Win 760 ball powder as directly referenced in the Hornady manual for its bullet. Thanks for your quick reply, I respect your advice sir. 😎👍
@swamper2fly
@swamper2fly Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of load development but where are you all buying primers. Great interview John.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 Жыл бұрын
Great video with Gavin, John! As a reloader with more gear than sense, I really feel much better about myself when I see how much stuff Gavin has... 🤔 Just kidding... At least his is a business write off. Seriously now, I obsess about powder charges down to the granule trickled in and seating depth when I don't have the time or shooting skills to match that... But I suppose that's one less thing to worry about when I do get out. BTW, Brass prep sucks. I really like my cheap Lyman prep center! 👍
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
@mohawkdriver4155
@mohawkdriver4155 11 ай бұрын
My dude!
@rethempthoor
@rethempthoor Жыл бұрын
I like You both. Great stuff
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 Жыл бұрын
Gavin, do you not like the Dillon Super Swage 600? While not the fastest process, I’ve turned a lot of 556, 308 and 45Acp into smooth running brass in a 550B. Including some foreign/offshore brass.
@WvMnts
@WvMnts Жыл бұрын
A nice side to see besides Gavin’s serious side with content
@charlesmoeller5051
@charlesmoeller5051 Жыл бұрын
As they walk around we get a tour of the floor?
@hbudsmalley6317
@hbudsmalley6317 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I agree with Gavin about his preferred shooting pastime, hunting rock chucks. Personally I seek exceptional accuracy from a pair of 223s and a 25-06 and reload about 3000 rounds a year to that end. I even have a part time job so that I can afford components in this crazy upside down world of supply chain economics.
@tonyzhu403
@tonyzhu403 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Gavin has talked about the Lee APP. That seems to be a quick way to swage primer pockets. The Hornady AP method seems good as well.
@totalcardetailing2022
@totalcardetailing2022 Жыл бұрын
Have a question. I have a 30-30 bolt action rifle Remington Have you ever worked up a load for a regular.308 bullets something like a Hornady sst, eld-X or and other brand? Just asking.
@TheGoatMumbler
@TheGoatMumbler Жыл бұрын
And you should see the machine shop side!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
That video is coming next week!
@aberhan
@aberhan 10 ай бұрын
Off topic but I have a question. I have some Federal 223 Remington brass which had the primers crimped in place. I resized and extracted the spent primers but can’t install new primers. Is there a remedy for this malady? A tool perhaps? Or should I just discard this brass? Not new to reloading but this situation is new to me. All advice appreciated.
@BG-gr7fh
@BG-gr7fh Жыл бұрын
I'm learning that OCD is actually a good thing
@terrybeams6602
@terrybeams6602 3 ай бұрын
Javin, what are your thought on roll sizing 9mm?
@barrycolla2506
@barrycolla2506 Жыл бұрын
To me...this looks like the ultimate mancave👍😉
@Gman-lf5bh
@Gman-lf5bh Жыл бұрын
Did I miss you MEC Marksman press?
@jimmydoyebi5885
@jimmydoyebi5885 Жыл бұрын
I see all those presses that you have, but I don't a Redding 700 Ultramag Single Stage Press.
@gusloader123
@gusloader123 Жыл бұрын
He did have what I consider the best all-around Press ---> The excellent "Forster/Bonanza Co-ax" press. Easy access, smooth operation and the dies slide in without a bunch of adjustments and fiddle-faddle. And, it has the handle where it belongs: Top / Center instead of being a knee-knocker model. I did not see it or hear it mentioned but I would have thought a guy who is into reloading and making guns and ammo would have had a "C-H / 4-D Champion" Heavy Duty O-Press in the shop instead of the plastic/pot metal Lee models. That C-H/4-D Champion has lots of serious torque and besides reloading ammo, it can also swage bullets and form cases. Surprised he did not have a "Ponsness-Warren" press. They seem to be quality hardware. Maybe it was missed in the video 🤔?
@awsomedude9111
@awsomedude9111 Жыл бұрын
11:50 Wondering what business or work he does that would amount to a collection of this size. Either way having a total collection would be helpful for us with testing what is best to use.
@DeadBoyJJ
@DeadBoyJJ Жыл бұрын
Milled mak-90s are some of the best AK rifles ever produced. It's basically just a neutered Polytech Legend. It was built in Factory 386 on the same tooling. I've never seen a Factory 386 gun that wasn't great.
@EDX2308
@EDX2308 Жыл бұрын
Note that the Area 419 Zero press and the Forster Co-Ax are NOT hanging up there and are in use. That should tell you something. I have those two presses and there's nothing we can't reload.
@gusloader123
@gusloader123 Жыл бұрын
I reaalllly like my Forster Co-Ax press. Excellent. Gave away a cheapo plastic & pot-metal Lee model 3 decades ago. Ugh!
@ElmoColt45
@ElmoColt45 Жыл бұрын
Gavin, it's time for a yard sale!
@chrisclark9920
@chrisclark9920 16 сағат бұрын
Good video
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 12 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@calebmartinez3805
@calebmartinez3805 Жыл бұрын
Man!!!! Am speechless if no body have the equipment he will.. ( a reloading candy’s store)
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ lmfao I knew id be jealous, but I'm downright envious.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Imagine how I felt standing there! 😜
@rosswitte
@rosswitte Жыл бұрын
I didn't have a term for it but now I do. Russian dolls! Thank you! Great interview.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. More with him to come soon.
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
Hello to both
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Hello!
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
Gavin has a pretty cool set up!
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