Fe vs Fi which are you hearing?

Trying to type your friends and family you MBTI obsessed human? Have you narrowed it down to sensory as a savior function? Fe - extroverted feeling or Fi - introverted feeling ... which one are you hearing?
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[@josephmarch7142]

I like this. - Fi.

[@InternetLiJo]

I like your comment. - Fi

[@delynnsimpson3640]

I see how you could say that. - Fe.

[@isaiahsmith7026]

Everyone seems to like these comments. -Ni

[@christopherwalker810]

Im hungry -Se

[@lananikolajevic5219]

@christopher walker I'm hungry too,but I'm tired as well - Ne

[@JosiahMcCarthy]

More examples: Fi-Te: I'm glad you liked it I really appreciate that That was really well done You made me feel good You're not being a team player Fe-Ti: You're a star You're so strong She's so good You're an idiot In general, Fe users can make attributions to people much more comfortably. Fi users feel extremely uneasy assigning qualities to a person, so they usually try to assign the quality to the action or work that the person did instead (Te). So someone makes cookies and gives them to their coworkers, Fe coworker says "you're amazing! You bake the best!" Fi user says, "this is so good, it has the chewy middle and crispy edges, you did good." The extraverted function is the one where shallowness is acceptable. Fi doesn't feel comfortable bandying about qualitative judgments for other people, because those are super serious and need to figured out carefully and once they are deemed to be the case, they stay true until otherwise stated. Same with Ti in a way, if you state a reason for doing something or a way to make something work better, it had better be deeply considered and something you really believe and not just something quick off the top of your head. But for Fe and Te, the fodder they're dealing in is more inherently temporary, and not so serious. They will reach for shortcuts and preestablished jumping-off points in the environment, socially, academically, physically, because the depth and origin is not what they have in mind, but rather the outcome, and the outcomes for everyone involved. Ti and Fi are more and what you put in than what you get out. They like purity and depth and originality. They don't like to take shortcuts, so Fi would rather make its own greeting cards, Ti would rather do its own research.

[@aprilw2287]

What you say about Fi is so true. I feel extremely uncomfortable giving people direct praise and would much rather compliment the product of their accomplishment than them. I've never thought about that though. Thanks for giving me some new info to chew on!

[@andreagreenwood93]

This is the most insightful analysis of Fe vs Fi language I think I've ever seen. I definitely had an intuition of differences in the language but struggled to put it into words like that. I was also thinking as I was reading it- I wouldn't feel that comfortable as a Te-Fi type saying to someone who brought cookies, "You're amazing you bake the best," unless it was accurate in an absolute way: that they were amazing as a person in general and literally made the best cookies I've ever had. But I imagine an Fe type would probably roll their eyes at the weight of that lol. I think, what is it about for them? It seems like they think people deserve to be made to FEEL a certain way- I.e. you were nice enough to bring cookies so you deserve for me to say something to make you feel great. The same way my Te believes people deserve consequences- if I care about someone I want to make "things" better or easier for them- I hope it makes them happy but in an indirect way because I made their life "better," not so much because we exchanged a feel good "moment." I must admit, I think Fe types are usually better at comforting and encouraging others than Te types.

[@flutenanyidk1806]

And suddenly my interactions with INFPs make SO much more sense.

[@flutenanyidk1806]

@@andreagreenwood93 Fe users generally like making people feel good. We don't put a ton of thought into complimenting someone. INFJs don't tend to compliment people as often because they're more quiet. ENFJs and ESFJs can be found in the wild sounding something like this. (All of these are addressing friends.) "Hi so and so! Oh my goodness, cute dress!" "Hey gorgeous!" "You know, you're really good at -----!" "I appreciate this about you." Strangers. "Ok. I totally love your shirt." "Your hair looks SO pretty today!" "You look so nice in that color!" Fe is kind of bubbly, honestly.

[@JosiahMcCarthy]

@@flutenanyidk1806 lol, I wish I could keep up with FJs' compliments

[@austinbodiford6360]

I assumed I had Fi until I met Fi users that really liked and really hated things. I realized I do not nearly have as strong of feelings towards... whatever. I saw that I was deeply aware of how others felt towards things. And specifically what to avoid saying/doing while around certain individuals and also what to do to make others feel comfortable. I wrongly assumed Fe would show up like the ESFJ stereotype which I ruled out. (Gushing and openly talking about the other person's feelings) I see now, Fe is looking at the spectrum of value in others not necessarily personally feeling something themselves. Game Changer.

[@InternetLiJo]

Yes spectrum!!

[@superAweber]

"...looking at the spectrum of value in others not necessarily personally feeling something themselves" ...

[@denisesiddon7241]

I used to be black and white with this. Can change with experience when you develop empathy through life events

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

I have audhd so I tend to have extremes of liking things or hating things. But majority of things I'm grey in And see either perspective yet people say I'm fi user idk

[@nora_8080]

"I made them laugh" I...I didn't ask to be attacked like that

[@InternetLiJo]

Lol MMMHMM 😉😆

[@flutenanyidk1806]

Another thing. Fe will say "You're upset. I can see why. I'd be really frustrated too if that happened to me." SOMETIMES they'll relate with personal experience. Fi is the opposite. They'll relate with personal experience first then they'll use the I can see why. While users of both functions can do both things, I like to put it this way. Fi stands up for *what* it believes in. Fe stands up for *who* it believes in. In general, I'd say that most feeling types would be willing to die for whatever or whoever lives in their Fi or Fe relm of existence. I've never met anyone as willing to fight for a cause as an INFP; I've never met anyone as willing to fight for someone's welfare as an ExFJ. Additionally, if you catch two people having a battle of "What do you want?" they both use Fe. This is what I call the Fe dance and it's funny until it gets annoying. Fe cares about what the group cares about, which is why Fe users often come across as more relaxed. Sometimes we genuinely don't care and would prefer to make others happy.

[@nightflash5951]

Ahahaha, I had one friend as a kid and we were both introverts and Fe users, so it was so damn often that I can do whatever you like.

[@nebulasofia]

Lmao I'm always trapped in that "what do you want" battle, mostly with my ESFJ friend.

[@melphillips1608]

Try from an opposite angle such as instead of ‘what do you want’? Simply state, well I can’t decide, up to you, but rule out what you dn’t want. Ie. ok i don’t care what , but not Indian food for that night. Might help. And it gives more direction for the other side to possibly choose. Ie. narrow down choices between the party making decisions. :D

[@TK-kf8zc]

What versus who, keen observation

[@ritasasaki9625]

I am pretty sure im a feeling type but i get very confused whether um am Fe or Fi because for me it seems i'm an Fi but in a very Fe way, this probably doesn't make sense. But anyway, my confusion is due to the fact that I always know what i like and what i want but most of the times, i end up giving those up because i feel selfish for not putting in to account what other people would feel about my decision, but thinking more about this point it doesn't necessary makes me an Fe because i realize that my main concern is not necessarily what other people are feeling but me feeling selfish for that or guilty, so ultimately it is about my own feelings but since this presents it in a very fe way i get very confused. And i often also use Fe language when i talk for example about giving people a present

[@scotshuthats5268]

fe fi fo fum?

[@InternetLiJo]

😂🙈

[@ivram9965]

I think I am in INTP. I think I did catch myself thinking “ oh! I made them laugh. Wait are they laughing at me or to what I said ? I am connecting with them ? I am doing good socially ? It’s kinda weird but ok ( screaming inside because of anxiety, but not showing because it reveals to much about me )” and then I space out for a moment then I realize that I space out so I come back to reality.

[@nebulasofia]

That's why INTPs are so cute and amazing.

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

This kinda sounds like social anxious and infp I feel the same. But imo it's just social anxiety

[@tafari795]

I love how Te users such as yourself are able to explain things so accurately, as a Ti user explaining sounds more like I’m trying to Fe convince the individual of something for example: making someone laugh 😆 Such a great video, really good insights 🖤

[@InternetLiJo]

Hahah thank you!!

[@superAweber]

"Fe convince" ha ha

[@tafari795]

@@superAweber yup Fe convince that’s what it feels like using Fe for me as someone who has it low lol 😂

[@gabrielchattaway1663]

Wow you summed that up well... It sucks because as a Ti user, I tend to have a pretty good personal understanding of concepts, but explaining them is horrible because I realise the overwhelming lack of Si organisation in my brain

[@katrina.delacruz]

I love these "which are you hearing?" videos! such a succinct way to put them and makes the content easily sharable with those who are new to cog functions :)

[@InternetLiJo]

Thanks Katrina!

[@dalee2419]

As Fe, i really need the environment to give me feeling cue, i try to make people happy, because that will in turn make me absorb their happiness. I think for Fi, you want to spread YOUR happiness to others.

[@arthurl.ferreira7993]

After barely 5 minutes I finally understood why Fe makes me argue passionately about values I take as mine! Thank you, Ni!

[@dogdonut3]

I had written down the function abbreviations of an intj, my adult entp son came past me and saw them. He said to my adult daughter (esfj) "what's se in the periodic table?" She started singing the periodic table song to be sure. I googled it and told him. Then he concluded that my functions were nickel, tellurium, flerovium, and selenium. Leave it to an entp to come up with that!

[@ADeeSHUPA]

笑 笑 笑

[@eval4495]

😂 I guess in a way it would help to remember your functions. That's pretty creative.

[@lindaward5376]

I like that! I'm ISFJ, so my cognitive functions are silicon, iron, titanium, neon.

[@dogdonut3]

@@lindaward5376 😊

[@kindauncool]

+@@eval4495 I think it'd help with remembering the elements better. For me, I just make words out of them. Like, "Night Fise" for INTJ, "Knife Tise" for INFJ, and so on.

[@ryanquick1824]

aka... Fe = feeling as pertains to Everyone. Fi = feeling as it pertains to me, myself and, >>>>>>> I

[@Diaming787]

So that's why I see people joke around all the time, to live up the emotional setting of some community. - Fe blindspot here

[@henkster6067]

Please explain Fe blindspot?

[@Diaming787]

@@henkster6067 Out of the 8 functions, INTJ and ISTJ have Fe being the worst of all. They are so child-like with Fi that they avoid Fe as much as they can. Because they don't have it in a stack, they just won't care about the objective social values, Fe; hence making them appear cold to the outside.

[@henkster6067]

@@Diaming787 that makes sense. So why would they keep joking? To distract others so they don't realise the IXTJ doesn't know what's happening socially? Or to get everyone of track so that they can cope in the social situation?

[@Diaming787]

@@henkster6067 I can't answer with exact reasons, due to my blindspot Fe myself, but from what I have seen, they just want to make everyone happy and assume that everyone would know what's socially around, regardless of the type. Of course, IxTJ can be socially aware, but they themselves never find themselves making others happy just for the sake of it. Me personally, I am oblivious when it does comes to jokes, and I only joke around if I Fi like it myself first.

[@henkster6067]

@@Diaming787 thank you for your response. I am supposed to be ESFJ, but I know this is wrong. I cannot type myself and everyone else think they know me. So I am at a point of not feeling interested in typology anymore as I always just go in circles. So thanks again for your responses

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

Fi (masculine, aux position) for me has always been knowing exactly who I am and what I stand for- it doesn’t waver based on which clique or people group I’m around. I think that’s another solid indicator of Fi, but it isn’t always easy to detect from the outside.

[@senantiasa]

I agree, weak Fi users usually don't know who they are and what they mean and don't really have a strong sense of 'identity'. However, I think Fi is one of the easiest function to detect (at least for me), because Fi users usually talk about themselves a lot and about what they think, feel and believe (whereas Fe users usually want to find out about others). It's usually pretty difficult for me to type high Fe users, because usually they don't answer the question and usually just ask right back. Me: How do you feel about this subject? Fe-user: Not much, but what about you? How do you feel about it? Me: How do you feel about this subject? Fi-user: * rants for half an hour.

[@GuidingMyHome]

@@senantiasa I spent so long typing my mom because of this! I don't know how I missed the Fe and I felt so stupid when my Ti husband stepped in and called it out. I have savior Fi...and I feel like I just kept getting distracted on these rants you mentioned.

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

What if Ur a fi user but don't know who u are. I doubt my values because it got me into arguments so much when I was a kid

[@aspiringscientist1053]

'Who is the supreme being?' Fi user: me.

[@SirThanksalot_1]

I love your practical approach to the MBTI typing :) I guess it takes more from an INTJ to translate it from just pure abstract concept (or I'm thinking in stereotypes) -ISTP

[@InternetLiJo]

Thanks! The standard of Ni is “the understanding” so any other function I need to pull to convey that concept the best I can will be utilized.

[@love-risa]

things that I say as a possible dominant feeler (I think introverted, but I’m not sure) I love your style I love your outfit I love your earrings I love how you find something positive to say about everyone. I love talking with you I am so grateful to be your friend I care about you I love you (though a lot of these could be said by anyone) You’re amazing I appreciate you I hope you feel better soon I wish you the best I’m sorry to hear that, I hope things get better for you You have the right to feel what you feel Your feelings are valid I’m glad you felt comfortable sharing this with me Let me know if there’s anything I can do to help you Thank you for sharing I love spending time with you

[@farizanroslan]

Now that you've said it, yeah. I do like it when someone compliments my explanation/presentation. And I mean, I really really want people to appreciate my thoughts(ideas, optimisations, solutions, outlooks, conclusions,principles,phrases, etc) over other things(looks, belongings, tangible stuff, etc). Of course, any compliments is flattering but if I were to respond to them, I'd talk more when someone says 'good idea!' rather than 'good job!'. I feel more reciprocated. It feels like, anyone can do a good job so I don't deserve the compliment. Whereas a good idea is more of a novelty, rare and special. Don't get me wrong, it's not like hard work, tenacity and perseverance are not worthy of mentioning at any point of a process. I'm just biased towards the other end when it comes to my efforts as I think any satisfactory task can be done when it's well thought after. As in, a 'good job' comes naturally when it's a 'good idea'. I hope that makes sense. Does anyone else share this line of behavior/thoughts? Maybe roughly explain so that I get to view different perspectives when it comes to dealing with compliments?

[@joyandpeacefullaughter5307]

So that's how Ti is like? So today I've learned how to compliment my Ti friends. Usually, I as a Te user feel uncomfortable when people call me smart. Some think it's a compliment but it means nothing to me. Sometimes, when people call me smart, intelligent, etc, I just want to sink into the ground at that moment. But if you tell me "good, job" 💃. I'd rather you tell me my solution worked for you or my plan worked for everybody. That makes me feel wanted and useful.

[@myrtila]

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 what you described is actually pretty useful to clear whether I use Ti or Te. And from what you said, I’d rather be called "smart" than "helpful", so I guess I use Ti...

[@farizanroslan]

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 like wise, so that's how you see it(from Te lense). It is rather interesting for me to dissect the similarities and differences, but I'll save the details and skip to the conclusions. Te user dealing with Ti user: "Good idea! How do you figure this out? Can you be my advisor?" Ti user dealing with Te user: "Good job! Do you mind if I apply this as well? Can you supervise me?" What do you think about these summaries? Do I understand what you said earlier correctly?

[@joyandpeacefullaughter5307]

@@farizanroslan Yeah. I don't think it will be necessary to ask a Ti user to be your advisor. They will do it without asking when you've complimented their idea, lol. ( even those with inferior Ti Oprah and Doctor Phill). For you guys with inferior Fe when your Ti is complemented and praised without question or you have listened to your Fe shows up and you begin to break your back for that person and do nice things for the person.

[@saloni.sharma]

Very precise yet clear explanation Lindsay. I Fi love your content. :) I think that the biggest problem with unhealthy/undeveloped Fe users is that they lose their own identity and sense of self trying to comfort and care for others, trying to make sure everyone else is at harmony while they themselves may not be. On the contrary, with unhealthy/undeveloped Fi users it's the lack of regard for other's emotions and feelings, especially the ones that don't align with their values and oblivion to social needs and expectations. I think this is why we need to understand functions, so as to better see through our shortcomings and other people's way of perceiving and reacting, which is different than our own.

[@hamzailarzeg]

Fe and Fi in a nutshell is how would a person choose a gift for someone else. If they pick a gift based on what they believe makes a perfect gift, then that Fi. Fe would base their decision on what they know about what that person likes, or what is globally known or established in the tribe about what makes a perfect gift, they will come up with general rules that aligns with how the receiver defines a perfect gift. Fi would say something like: This painting means so much to me, i would like you to have it. Fe would say something like: I know you like puppies and space, i painted some puppies in space i hope you like it.

[@melino9709]

I’m an infp And I gift based on what that persons like, I dislike giving people meaningless gifts even if the gift is expensive…. My ENFJ best friend gift me candles and wine everytime and she’s the one who love those type of gift I thank her and kept it but never used it….while my Intj boyfriend gift me a vintage piano the same one my grandma played before the Holocaust. And my isfp friend gifted me the most personalized gift ever it was a cd with my most funny voice recordings… my ESFJ aunt in Christmas got all great expensive gifts but none of use liked it…. I least she tried…… I think this is subjective and it can cause confusion to people who don’t know about the cognitive functions in full.

[@janak7552]

I think it's the exact opposite. Fi very much respects people's individuality and doesn't just assume someone else likes something just because they like it

[@yasselesca]

@@melino9709 That's so funny to hear. I once noticed and told my sister (ESFJ) that she always gifts me things she typically would like to have xD like going for a wellness weekend (I don't mind, it's great) I am an ENFP and always think about what this person likes the most. For example I sent my INFP friend a pair of socks with a rick and morty theme, because it's his favourite show and we watched it together. I also made a rick and morty card with a personal text myself. He loved it very much.

[@FalconOfStorms]

It's interesting how functions can substitute for one another. For example, my Ti has been used instead of my Fe to create values through analysis rather than absorbing them from others. Or using Ne to make up for a lack of Se to accomplish athletic feats -- unlike an Se user my body doesn't automatically know what to do, but I can use logical assumptions to understand the trajectory of a thrown ball or the position of my own limbs in a backflip. Good description of the Fe class clown by the way. It's not much but it's honest work.

[@elypelowski5670]

I love these kind of videos LiJo - Examples of what the functions look like in real world scenarios and statements are very helpful for learning to identify function preference.

[@BrodieBr0]

Love this explanation for the differences between Fe and Fi. I'm going to share it with my friends and family.I'm currently having fun typing my family and getting them to understand MBTI. I can tell they're having a ton of fun about learning the 16 personality types and 8 cognitive functions so far. :)

[@Stoffendous]

Fi is also pretty much the lead requirement for music. It's why you see all those isfp and infp musicians. If you feel a lot within you're going to use music as a vessel to bring that into the world.

[@InternetLiJo]

Damn I feel that. I remember telling myself years ago I hadn’t experienced enough pain to write good lyrics 😆

[@EdoardoBrotto]

Intj here. Pianist, composer and engineer. Adn guess what, I "engineer" the feelings in music. I remember talking to my Maestro and saying "Why don't I feel emotions when I play?" and he replied "it's our job to create emotions, not to feel them", so we worked on HOW to construct everything in order to get the desired result (carefully designed). I think he's one of a kind himself, but hey, I never worried anymore about not feeling a thing.

[@YEDxYED]

@@EdoardoBrotto I remember asking my intj father “can you feel that?” He responded that he liked the track I was playing but he didn't feel anything. Of course to an Infp(me) this is foreign. How can you not feel it? Through mbti, I gain further understanding but sometimes I still feel bad for you guys. The feeling a piece of music fan envoke is beautiful

[@Nothing-iz6hw]

@@YEDxYED you can't talk for another INTJ! Keep that simple.

[@eusebioraulucsantos9139]

As an INTP musician, Fi it's not necessary but it would definitely help. My creative process is not that much about how I'm feeling, and more about materializing the thoughts in my head into actual sounds. With respect to the lyrics, I'm usually good with words when I need to explain or rationalize something, but I do struggle with conveying those words with emotion; fortunately my vocalist is better suited in that department, so we have a great partnership; he provides the emotional lyrical content for the song and I provide the structure and detail in the arrengment, and also sometimes edit the lyrics to make it sound more musical. Btw, if you are interested in how that might sound, I'll leave you one of my songs here 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZXKeqKPaMl0m9U&feature=share&si=EMSIkaIECMiOmarE6JChQQ

[@enfieldjohn101]

When I think about conversations I've had in the past, I certainly tend to focus on my own emotions and to consider what I feel about things to have more significance than how others feel. Just yesterday, for example, I told my wife that liked her hair the way it was and that what others thought of it didn't matter.

[@ArthasHastingsMenethil]

after watching, reading comment and reading some other forum I think for TLDR version is Fe = your average anime protagonis + harem Fi = your average anime Anti Heroes type Fe I feel like they value others too much that they forgot about themself in progress to save them like Ill prepare to fight any Monster, Beast, Demon they thought they could do it all but they lacked in preparation which some of them die or nearly die a lot. so uhm.. those colorful anime that protagonis doesn't have anythingn to worry that much and they gained quite OP in the beginning Fi I feel like Shield Heroes, Hajime Nagumo, ...eetc the often portait as Anti Heroes type or some kind of a bit like a Bad Guy looking and don't care for anyone else eexcept their party, their companion, their love,....etc overall I think some kind of edgy kind of anime where the Protagonis has been betreayed a lot, abandoned, lack of strong power in early game but have to work for it also correct me IF I'm wrong somewhere

[@user-kr4yu6kx1l]

I just thought abt this a while ago but couldn't put it into proper words- speechless - ENFP

[@Duisighingra]

Extremely helpful.. Just had a difficult difference of opinion with someone, and couldn't understand why, but the fi/fe differences between us, explains why we were at loggerheads... Very helpful in this moment! Cheers 🙏

[@glueball214]

Well done, and I appreciate the ‘supreme being’ concept. When I was trying to decide between being INFJ vs. INTJ , I was looking at Fe as the deciding factor. I googled ‘safe’ and found out it is an emotion. I thought I had Fe in spades as I like to make people feel safe. Yet further exploration led me to believe that I had to use expressions of my emotions to convey this feeling to others. As I usually do stuff for people, this did not fit . From just this one video, I would bring this into doubt. But if you saw your comments on another video, I am in the OP class now, and hopefully can figure this out.

[@AK-jt7kh]

This actually helped me better understand the difference between Te and Ti. It’s a question of who knows what the truth is and how they think they can find it. 🤔

[@Takosaga]

We live in a society! What an identity crisis, what do I truly want in this world?

[@loiccooper5375]

Ok so I'm definitely an Fi... I had some struggle figuring out if I was fi or fe 'user' but now I know. THANKS!

[@sabikakhaliq]

Me to myself: what do you want? Me to myself: I want more happiness than suffering for everyone in this world Me to myself: No no no, what do YOU want? Me to myself: Yes, I want more happiness than suffering for everyone in this world. Me to myself: FOR GOD'S SAKE. WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR YOURSELF? Me to myself: more happi........ Me to myself: okay that's enough. You are hopeless. Let's put you in Ni-Ti loop. Fe>Fi.

[@AdvancedCommonSense]

Ti on the top Fe inferior I really like to see reaction and people laughing at my (usually sarcastic) jokes.

[@m2pozad]

Good start. But the rest of it is that- value is not just feelings value related. Value is also what is good, right, beautiful, or meaningful. Cultures are meaning and value driven human systems for expression of benefit to the collective group. Male Fe builds cultures. Female Fi builds humans and support networks to make cultures secure.

[@hollo0o583]

I was able to make them laugh as in self deprecating humour

[@simonmeehan362]

Wonderful, LiJo!! Best one yet!

[@KMR1776]

My lack of Fi was destroying me. I had to develop it. It's better now. But I feel like it's a guilty pleasure. I feel shameful. -INFJ

[@Mistertunk]

I see her face and I think Fe, I don't know why. I will watch the rest of the video to see if I'm right. Edit: I was wrong

[@nethercords]

i love that fe and fi users generally understand one another. i can understand the confusion that is placed on feeling functions when coming to terms with the fact that they are judging functions. i was completely aware of the fact that every sentence in this paragraph starts with i and that is thanks to your video. give my best to Ben, hope hes doing well.

[@greggfiller1]

Thanks for this contemplation and and for your attention in explaining to us the S,N, T and F- aspects of it to help the Tribe understand! Fe: in any given situation, the overall orientation of looking outward to consider what the Tribe / “we” / the other person might value- and verbally representing it in terms that suggest feelings + positive and negative valuing of something or someone. Fi: in any given situation, the overall orientation of looking inward towards oneself to consider one’s own distinct values- and verbally representing it in terms that suggest feelings + positive and negative valuing of something or someone.

[@InternetLiJo]

So glad you found it useful Gregg!!

[@derekbinsack]

Hmm over the past few weeks, I’ve actually been thinking I’m Se/Ti. I can’t even wear a T-shirt that others don’t like - even if I really like it 😂 I’m always catering my behavior, accessories, clothing etc to the average of the people who I’m with. Thanks Lindsay!

[@kevinfukthezetamale4298]

Fi:I ain't sacrificing for no one, I'd rather keep my energy to myself.

[@nightflash5951]

I don't think that's a Fi thing really, could be related to enneagram type 5, since they might fall to be greedy.

[@kevinfukthezetamale4298]

@@nightflash5951 Because we are stingy with our information and also setting up boundaries for people who are downright energy draining and being intrusive.

[@yes7855]

More like Sleep animal.

[@yes7855]

I believe

[@murnoth]

You're awesome at presenting this; at least in native NT language

[@christalphelps6186]

Such a great way of explaining this Lindsay! And so true! I don't know how many times I've told my sister I don't care when she's talking about her friends...

[@breezi3154]

I think of it as Fi experiencing other people's emotions (through empathy) as a part of the broader spectrum of their own emotional experience, whereas Fe experiences their own emotions as part of the broader spectrum of the emotional experiences of their social group. One converges inwardly, the other diverges outwardly.

[@davecook3278]

Thank you for your guidance and wisdom. I look forward to working with you in the future. Lead with love, leave with a lesson.💯✊🏾

[@leejongsuk2075]

for me its kind of more of ,like for example im in some sort of argument id explain or just have this type of mentality: "I understand how youre feeling at the moment and i underdtand why you cant understand me since you have your own problems that lead you to have trouble trying to understand the other side but I feel like i should matter as well and be focused on too,i have problems affecting me as well" which honestly confuses me alot since im confused if its Ne making the fi kind of grasp how others feel while fi tries to validate itself or if its just plain fe

[@leejongsuk2075]

id mostly have alot of mixed feelings id feel like both fe and fi

[@nattifrutti]

This sounds more like introverted decider, (like fi), because at the end of the day, the total amount of focus is More on the introverted spectrum - towards YOU . Yes, you see the other person, most people do as we all use or are capable of using all functions (so if you primarily use Fi, you will still use Fe), but an extraverted decider (like Fe) would be talking about, and be MORE concerned with/focused on the other person; what is their perspective, experience and their feelings etc. They would be willing to give up most of the "space" for the other person. TLDR: Your Primary concern at the end of the day (when we collectively look at all of the things you have said) is more so about you. When looking at ALL of the things that a person says: Fi: more Me that They Fe: more They than Me.

[@hasgoodles7807]

Never has my FE been more activated than at this particular time in history. Dear God. -INFJ

[@benjaminfast5496]

An example of how I use my Fi. If a friend asks me: "Hey, I need to resolve a conflict with friend, but I don't know how to approach it. How do you think I should bring it up?" My response: "Well, if it we me, I would appreciate it if you came to me and..." I self reference and put myself in the shoes of the other party. How would I want someone to talk to me? That is the foundation of how I give advice to my friends, and more often than not, they tell me I give great advice. Of course, this isn't considering who this other person is or how they would react to certain things because I'm not the same as that person. I can only go based on how I would feel in that situation. The difference may be that an Fe user would tell them more socially acceptable answers, but while also trying to encourage their friends by saying things like, "don't worry though, you got this, you're an amazing and super kind person and you can absolutely handle this." Whether they fully believe everything in this statement, they believe their goal isn't to actually tell their friend what to say, it's to make their friend feel better about themselves so they have the confidence to handle the situation in their own way. (Again, I'm not an Fe user, so correct me if I'm wrong on this.)

[@wewo9872]

Im friends with a dom fe user and they exactly do that while i (also a fi user) do the same advice thing as u, so it seems accurate to me

[@urchicfashion1976]

Some Fe users use “ It depends “ a lot. As an Fi users I rarely use the word. Intj 5w6. But I can say it is depends on the requirements. (However I already predict the requirements).

[@jovynabong3858]

This is Ni nitpicking on the subtle movements and words of people, my kind of function

[@uriki1000]

This video was very helpful thank you

[@MgtowRubicon]

Fe Fi Fo Fum! I smell the... Oh, never mind.

[@lindslou9654]

Well done LiJo. Well done! 👍

[@eleice1]

LiJo, LiJo is that supreme being👽

[@absmith4724]

This is really great, thanks Lindsey

[@pugninja7037]

To me if i find someone falling over, i laugh , but if everyone glares at mye for laughing i then feel bad.. thats fe . Im not trying to make people happy.. its the aftermath vibe .. society as A entp

[@engardi]

Aaayyyy 😆 Nice seeing you again 🌻

[@glueball214]

Never mind.. I went crazy/delusional.. Not high Fe. I try so hard and reach so much. And you look Fe to me. Especially with the ' hi internet friends ' Ah well, on with trying to adjust to the evil stereotypes. 🙃

[@orlandobegay3588]

As an infj this is why I love the intj mind

[@hirsch4155]

So helpful. As Fe child I love the sort of thing such as, “they like me because I make sense”. It’s all for the vibe. They can disagree in an Fi way, but Fe child wants them to not be put off by what I say. I’m like a dog sometimes that just needs to belong lol. I struggle with Fi doms though, that might be put off. Makes me sometimes insecure in expressing my Se. I sometimes say to close friends when we’re in an unfamiliar group heavy with Fi, train me like a dog, so I don’t ruin the vibe 😂 It’s pathetic lol.

[@lisaia7877]

Love this explanation very simple thank you!

[@louiselarc9180]

I have Ti and Fe and I form my own values. Doesn’t everybody say things like: “I like this” “I hate that“ etc. ? I don’t get it haha

[@joyandpeacefullaughter5307]

Most Ti users I know, (especially those with Ti at the top) if you ask them have you ever been in love, they would look at you with a blank stare. Some will say "I've never been in love" It's hard for them to place it where love exists in their thoughts. Meanwhile an Fi user will either say "I've loved this person, that person or that person and say it with assurance or they will say " I love this person because... Ti users choose their partner according to what works for them and they can clearly explain their reasons without hesitation or that blank stare at first. I want a girl that's shorter than me so I can place my hands around her, I want a girl who cleans and cooks cause I'm going to be the breadwinner. I want a girl from my village who understands my culture etc. Fi users will take time to explain their reasons or may not be able to. Fi user: I love this person. They understand me. They get me. I love being around them. I just like them. Of course, each person's preference will still be affected by their other functions. I know ENTP's can only fondly crave someone based on something that reminded them of the EXPERIENCE that person gave them.

[@joyandpeacefullaughter5307]

Also, as someone who has stayed around Ti users (lead Ti and inferior Ti) I have hardly heard them say "I like this person, I hate this person"

[@louiselarc9180]

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 funny, I am in fact an ENTP but I’ve never been in love so I don’t think I know how I would answer these questions but thank you for clarify it a bit more

[@louiselarc9180]

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 but I think I don’t know anybody who has never said a phrase like “I like this person” or “I hate that person”

[@senantiasa]

@@louiselarc9180 Maybe you should review all your friends and acquaintances again. I'm sure some of them hardly ever say "I like this/that". For example, I almost never say out loud "I like this" or "I hate that". I do have certain things that I like (and the feeling is not even that strong), but it's useless to tell it to people. What's the point? Just for the sake of saying it? I usually would say something like, "That person really likes to interrupt people." or "That person always says one thing but does the exact opposite." I think I'm more objective that way and become more convincing to people, more professional, more neutral, more objective. I'm a strong Fe user. When I want something to happen, I convince people to it. I don't say, "Oh, I'd like for that to happen. Can you please do that?" The other person will think, "So you want me to do that because that's what you want??" I usually say, "If that thing happens, look at all these benefits it will bring you!" Usually, they will do it not because you want it, but because they want it to happen themselves. This is also why some Fe-users can be very manipulative.

[@michaelbindner9883]

So the class clown is Fe?

[@lanoyru4516]

Might have to get typed from you just to narrow the shit im stunned on😕

[@TK-kf8zc]

Fe = dogs Fi = cats

[@Rochester92G]

Horrible, generalistic comparison. Ti is very self-sufficient, so I would argue that would suit a cat as well. Either one can be an animal..

[@HaukLanglo]

Brilliant!

[@Inanothertimeandspace]

Just wasted 7 minutes listening to a convoluted discussion on this topic. Realized I needed to find a fellow INTJ to explain this to me 😂

[@liliaelle317]

Hi Lindsay, nice video 👍🏼 Could you give us work related tips, like how to find a job during this pandemic, how to be productive, how to be successful in a job interview please Would help a lot 😘

[@InternetLiJo]

Hey! That’s actually a great suggestion. I added it to my list.

[@noturbo]

My X wife would say "you are funny" i would get mad because i was sharing my insides "my values" guess she thought my values were funny.

[@angelinafrey6510]

I have a question. My cognitive functions are ni fi te si.. What do u think is my mbti? Bc there is no type like this, I would really like to know my type..I was always stuck between intj and infj, but it's completely different..

[@InternetLiJo]

I would ask you what makes you so sure of this? Because while Fi-Te exists on an axis (it works like heads and tails of a coin) you cannot have two introverted observer functions Ni and Si. If you have Ni, you must have Se. If you have Si you must have Ne. Heads and tails. You may be what Objective Personality calls a Sleep first jumper, who double down on introversion, however you still can’t have that function pairing.

[@trevorfrayne6418]

I have a much stronger default on Fi. However, I do know Fe pops up on rare occasions. But really not too often. I think I like to see it come out occasionally mainly for better interpersonal skills.

[@saloni.sharma]

Precisely this is the case with me as well. I learnt to socialise and Fe better because it is an essential skill and I use it as a tool when needed but my go default value /feeling is more concretely rooted inwards. I used to think that shadow functions are hidden and can't be accessed, but i think they can, even though they're not default, in examples like these.

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

Help I just fit both equally. My social anxiety just makes me accomodate 24 7 and I have identity issues but I also think I do have fi because if everyone e made me wear make-up to fit in I wouldn't do it cuz that stuff gives me sensory issues and I dont like how girls have to wear it so I wouldn't conform but with anything else I accommodate. Like I never conform but I always accommodate.

[@caffemocca8855]

I've found that judging functions are usually the source of conflicts, not the perceiving functions. I view some Fi users as cold and selfish. Not selfish in individualistic way, I'm fine with that. They are selfish in a way of judging people using different criteria depending on how much they like someone. Also, they often don't realize when they treat others badly yet they are aware so much when others do the same for them. They can be overly serious and (seem) emotionless plus with those Te GET IT DONE NOW sense of urgency attitude is very very annoying. With FeTi axis there's reason for everything even though the reasons don't always make sense. I'm not saying any function better than others but at least when 2 people having same judging functions conflict can be minimized and even solved far easier because the 2 parties at least can see and understand each other better. The only Fi users I can usually tolerate are NFPs because their Ne makes them more open minded and willing to look at other perspective. A combination of Si & Fi is the worst. Telling them to consider other's point of view is like talking to a concrete wall. TL:DR we usually perceive the annoying versions of every type but with same judging functions of ours as more tolerable than the ones with different cognitive functions which can make us crazy

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

Why does this sound sm like autism rather than cog functions

[@lolaandmocha]

I have my own strong preferences that I share but I also care about knowing the preferences of other people. For example, there's 6 flavours, I say I really like this specific one but I also like to ask others their preferences. It's like an emotional memory that I would like to input and keep for that particular person. Though having a weak Fi partner, almost Always his answer is "I have no preference" on almost everything so it's difficult 😅

[@melisasegura4054]

Very interesting, thank you ✨

[@blandon93]

I agree with the approach, however, it is usually useless when typing ESFP/ESTP ENTP/ENFP. They bareley judge people and complaing about their feelings.

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

Yes, because their extroverted decision function, is the 3rd function. 3rd function is shy when Introverted, and weird/awkward when Extroverted. That's why ESFP/ESTP ENTP/ENFP can be awkward when they talk. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJeYimqio9uKa5I

[@apoorvsom9120]

Why Fi-Te get along with Fi-Te

[@jansvoboda4293]

When you talk about Ti-Fi, I do not think it is as much of collective value as presented by the collective itself. Collectively or individually demonstrated values are just a data point. The supreme is reason and objective reality (it's interpretation is a contest we accept). Say INTP would establish value framework that harmonizes/balances values and interests of all individuals and then judge on how certain action adheres to or violate that framework. I hypothesize, that we establish a Ti logical moral framework around the raw input of inf Fe that cannot be ignored when understanding the value judgments.

[@catcatgoesflying4949]

Hi I need help. So I'm not very good at writing out my thoughts at all so please bare with me, this is going to be a chaotic mess that I'll try to organize (Might organize it too much LOL) I'm struggling between every cognitive function, and I have for 5 years but I will keep to the topic. Fe vs fi. Okay. So I think I'm a fi user, I mean I focus on trying to be as genuine as I can be, I try to be myself at all times. When people judged me for being a girl and liking video games and skateboarding, I thought it was stupid. When people doubt my opinions that I strongly believe in, then I don't just change my mind for them. And I always question "Was I being ingenuine just then..." I'm constantly worried that I'm not being myself. Which I heard was fi. I also can't handle critcism at all, and get very very emotional and angry over anything. I take so many things personal and lets say if someone let me on read, I would panic thinking they hate me. Even when my logic is like "No they don't hate you" I'm still like. Nope, they 100% do and heres why. I focus on making myself happy, I just want to be happy. (But if someone expected me to be serious then I will be serious) While still being spiteful because I don't want to be serious right now, can't people just let me be myself? I also got really personal about my favourite shows probably because I projected onto a character that reminded me of me which I guess is also introverted feeling lol. I also really love being childish (because its a break from my overthinking) and I watch kids cartoons like MLP and stuff and people that call me childish over it, I would just freak out lmao and I would also get mad that they don't let me do those kind of things. So thats fi for sure, and people have said I'm a fi user. HOWEVER I seem to have fe. On tests, I score high on fe just as much as fi. All my opinions I get from my family. I argue opinions online as a kid and they were crushed and I got into several arguements so I think that I don't deserve to have them. I also just adapt to people constantly. One minute I'll be anxious and stressed in my room, then someone optimistic will talk to me and boom, my entire personality changes to fit theres. I do this to get them to like me I guess, I'm aware of that but I also do it because I don't want them to focus on worrying about me too much when they have their own lives and should be happy. The thing is I AM OBSESSED with people, I am obsessed with validation. I try to be myself, but I find myself naturally gravitating to fit others emotions. Someone cries, then I cry. Someone laughs at a joke then I laugh. I want to be like other people, I want to be them. I mimic them. Whenever I have my own ideas on something, I don't share it with someone if I know they won't like it, and if they have an idea then I find myself agreeing with them no matter what. I can't tell if I genuinly believe them or not, but as soon as they say their idea, suddenly I just like it. For instance. I could despise a movie, hate everything about it. Then get home and my friend says "Damn that movie was so cool!" and suddenly I love that movie. I never knew if I actually despised it or not, I get confused on how I actually felt about the movie and just agree with my friend. Not even sure if its just to get them to like me more, or out of fear I'll make them mad if I disagree but its like I just switch up, I genuinely just adore the movie if they liked it. I've also found that I seem to be an empath. I get very sensitive with others and feel bad for them to the extreme. For example; My teacher who I've not replied to for days just gave me an extension for my work till the end of the month. I feel lazy, I feel stupid. Why has the teacher done this for me. I FEEL TERRIBLE, they are such a good person. And they have to deal with my crap? Why are they so nice. They deserve better. And then whenever I see people excluded, I just have to go and include them, I usually get left behind later on and thats when I get emotional and sad and take things personally. But It feels good at the time to make the other person happy, and I always go out of my way to include everyone at all times. Which leads me to think I have fe. What do you think? I think that a big reason on why I'm so confused is because while I want to be myself. I don't exactly know who myself is. It seems to change. I can go from really really sensitive to just idgaf about anything lets make jokes easily. And I can go from shy and anxious (on the way to a party) To suddenly being the loudest one there (at the party?) or if not the loudest, at least adapt out of nowhere. TY :D

[@InternetLiJo]

Not to reduce all of those words too simply but it sounds like you have Fi :) Even in your paragraph about Fe look how much you say “I feel” being aware of the emotional state of the self. One big tell is also you doing things so that people “like you” not doing things to shift their emotional state - make them happy etc. now I’m sure you do that too, but what function is leading? Sounds like Fi to me. Also a lot of “I/me” talk and Fe because they are bouncing to the extroverted spectrum first tend to use we/us/them/they. Of course this is just my quick guess. Also Fi can internally value people!! That’s what can make it a tricky function to nail down.

[@esrae.-.]

@@InternetLiJo that was really helpful, thank you :)

[@user-kr4yu6kx1l]

HEYYY THERE I'M AN ENFP Fi USER AND I'M JUST LIKE YOU- I mean I would totally say these things when I was first got into cognitive functions. I was mistyped myself as an ENFJ by that damn online personality test! I was so confused bcs the description of ENFJ fits me well hahaha. I agree with LiJo, you sound very Fi. Idk how but I intuitively can tell :D

[@ccs1229]

Video request: infj vs intj differences

[@KYVM_]

Anyone else hear volver by tainy from the into music 🎧🎶🤘

[@jerusalem4492]

Hey, I don’t know where to ask this but I’ve been curious: if one is a jumper in OP does that change their PoLR/blind function? For example, would Ti be the blind spot of an INTJ jumper as opposed to Fe?

[@InternetLiJo]

Hey! No it wouldn’t change them. The function order never changes but the function dominance does, if they makes sense. Also good to see you btw it’s been awhile!

[@jerusalem4492]

​@@InternetLiJo Thanks! I realize I'm REALLY bad at Ti, not sure what that's about. It has been a while haha I've been lagging on my typology learning. Still feel lost in it all but I'll get back into it eventually lol.

[@YourNickIsTaken]

Me as INTP: well what about Zero Fe, negative Fi...

[@benjaminjohnson8845]

Solid

[@tiernanwoollaston1669]

Hmmm what I'm wondering though is if I'm Dj -ing / sharing music that I think is awesome with the aim to showcase people my art form and get a feedback response/ validation from it, would I be more predominant in Fe or Fi? Like I'll share what I like to get a response and if the response is positive or they bounce off it, it is fulfilling. Like I'll read music reviews and there is a tug of war of them clouding my judgment ever so slightly and pissing me off, and stubbornly maintaining my original opinion

[@user-hl1eo1hz7y]

Sounds like fe, ti to me but I'm probably being biased

[@peterdentice5725]

Is it more about them having an experience which leads to them giving positive feedback or is it the positive feedback that makes you feel good? Where is the focus on of that which made you feel good? Is it you or them? You'll find the answer to your initial question from answering these.

[@tiernanwoollaston1669]

@@peterdentice5725 me displaying my art and getting feedback for it. Like a main part of the process. Like if I'm cooking food, I want to experiment and do it my own way and then show off my best efforts. If I can't put my own spin on it, then I don't feel much motivation towards the tribe. I like to show people how I see things, and artistic expression. Most of my thinking is towards performing and showcasing personal aesthetic

[@tiernanwoollaston1669]

@@peterdentice5725 also not much into compromising too much for others. I'm pushy with what I like so maybe that's Masculine Fi? Just not sure about my stack order haha

[@peterdentice5725]

Tiernan Woollaston the actions and behaviors you mentioned aren't really specific to cognition. What you've expressed sounds like something the Enneagram would answer. To me, it reads like type 4.

[@TheValwood]

I assume I use Fi, and I'm an infp, but when you explain it I think I'm an Fe user...so now I'm confused.

[@susankievman642]

I watched Sherlock last night on Netflix. Do you think that he is a INTJ? Or a ISTP?

[@InternetLiJo]

I’m not sure I need to watch it :)

[@jehriasean6379]

Does Fi sound selfish to anyone else?

[@InternetLiJo]

YeH me!

[@kababudas4157]

I am Ni,Ti ,Fe and Se

[@jack76787]

Why are values and emotions both attributed to the Fe/Fi functions, do values lead to emotions?

[@MiaLogoes]

We all talk about how intj struggle with fe but I wonder what its like to an infj and Te. The lack of or demon fe is more noticeable to the outside more I think

[@senantiasa]

Just ask them, "What percentage of your work/project has been completed?"

[@MiaLogoes]

@@senantiasa 😅😅

[@leenbasha]

Do you have a typing survice??

[@InternetLiJo]

Check my snugg link

[@bbsaid218]

Fe Fi Fo Fum...🤭

[@yayotwo]

What is your type btw?

[@swad2315]

hay intj need more se sincerely your friend

[@InternetLiJo]

LOL I know I know.

[@khochtaliyoussef1670]

i'm sry u soud lovely and pleasing to hear but i need some visuals to actively cosumme what u r trying to say, untill then it's energy draining good luck

[@adeadcrab]

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