Fear can be put away completely | J. Krishnamurti

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Fear can be put away completely
Extract from the sixth conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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[@user-sk3nc8wj2y]

Watch the movement of fear Fear is living thing Fear is not dead Fear is continously running in my mind. Fear is of losing my respect. Fear is of loss of health Fear is of loss of money Fear is of loss of near and dears Fear is of loss of my life. Sir is saying Watch fear Without the thought Without the thought of observing. Thought is fear. Don't escape fear. Don't resist fear. Don't try to end fear By using different techniques. When you don't Resist, escape and use techniques Then your energy does not dissipate. Now you have lot of energy. In that energy You can straight look into Eyes of fear. When you see it You find it is a memory It is just a thought. You understood fear And In understanding intelligence operates.

[@filosofia_com_tr]

Tell that to a human being who is loosing his loved one...

[@soleknight3212]

It's quite simple (but not necessarily easy). You - the ego/thinker/me - is the SAME thing as fear. Both are a product of thought. So it is an endless futile exercise to try and get rid of fear (as the 'you' trying to get rid of it is the same thing!). So, he is saying to come OUT of that whole process and observe in a very real, factual way. Then the fear you are watching changes and eventually dissipates (but you have to be careful not to have a motive). God bless

[@marcellacole6132]

Fear is a denial from the truth which hinders the mind from facing it and deleting it from your train of thought

[@kondojunagaraju8899]

"Thought is cause of fear"

[@touchthesky15]

8:57 my expression was matching the interviewer . I consciously felt that my life changed a little bit here. JK speaks only about facts and truth. he is beyond genius

[@Alex722]

The man is all about total freedom and I love it. A freedom which is not a product of thoughts and interpretations... One can not go wrong with that way of life. Even K is not to be put on a pedestal and make him authority. I consider him a loving, helping friend and that's all.... The work is my responsibility.

[@kondojunagaraju8899]

If you understand why are you getting fear, then you will free from fear.

[@florinnatu]

Found this at the perfect time in my life. Much needed. Thanks!

[@eugeniamorais8442]

There is no feer outside, Just inside our mind, a creation..

[@madelynhernandez7453]

So, it doesn't invalidate it or make it disappear. Of course it is because we have a mind that we can fear. We can't pretend to go thoughtless and think oh because I think of things that scare me, it makes it not real. Fear is real, its a real emotion and there are real reasons behind many of our fears. All of this is bs.

[@Alex722]

@@madelynhernandez7453 Maybe you’ll find out for yourself, for what kind of fear K talks about… far from being bs. I truly hope one day you’ll see 🙏❤️

[@soleknight3212]

Absolutely brilliant.

[@mayaciza8337]

Thank you Krishnaji❤️

[@dzovigounjian6372]

Very informative! Thanks for sharing 👏

[@lucreziamorganti9115]

This was extremely helpful thank you 🙏❤️

[@sageofsixpaths98]

This went over my head ngl. I'll have to spend some more time with this.

[@naraharimurthy8568]

Wonderful description of nature of self made fear and the best method to overcome it

[@viveksanyal2773]

Thank you

[@aka.Malual]

What a wisdom! Thank you so much, old G!

[@maiteyailengarciacarallero8811]

Grazie

[@bobsarfatty4673]

In my opinion K is the best of the best .

[@tempus.narrabo]

When I'm on a mountain bike trail that I don't know, I react to what is coming, but when I'm ready to do a single jump, all sort of thoughts run through my head.

[@emmanuelviktor]

Oh! You refer to 01:59 ?

[@emmanuelviktor]

All sort of thoughts due to expected danger?. Fear?

[@saruarHarcourts]

Wow 👌

[@foodandselflove1154]

I am going to attempt to make it easier to understand. ( or you could call it my reflection on what this respectable man said). Observer. Sir uses the word multiple times. We observe a lot. Things and people. Behavior, tone of voice, expression of people when they say what they say. I believe, we all have observed this kind. We also observe our own minds. Why? Intellectual people ask themselves why? Why am I thinking the way I am thinking? Why am I feeling anxious? I have learned, that asking questions, is one step closer to finding solutions. We are human are we are fragile, we ask these questions to other people. We ask people the questions we don't understand in our own heads. For most of us, our own headspace becomes an uncomfortable space to be in. Are you scared, girl, to be all by your own? Silently thinking through everything that hurts you, silently letting each thought open, pain you, hurt you. Spending time with yourself. You'd think it'd be so painful and uncomfortable. It's true. Being honest to yourself, is no cake walk. It takes courage, to think about all of your flaws and all of your insecurities. And this bummed you, let me drop another bomb. You don't do it just once and be free for life. Living, truly, freely, I've learned is continuously taking up difficult conversation with oneself. It is dealing with recurring hurting thoughts, that I've found my release. At any time you can pretend that all is alright. You can fake it, even in your headspace. Stand in front of the mirror and repeat to yourself that I'm fine, I'm loved, I'm happy. But, if you are not, truly, free of the demons in your head, no amount of external love, no amount of attention, no amount of friends or money or lovers will soothe your mind. None. Not drinks nor drugs. Nothing. It is, I believe for those who agree to deal with ugliness of life. The pain and uncertainty of very existence, are who shall, if ever be able to let themselves be unbothered by trival disturbances. By nasty comments, rude remarks, less external validation or absence of human company. It is to, I believe, love the very idea of joy, to live freely and truly, it is to be free and light, to go along the flow of life, being a gentle keen observer of oneself, when one actually takes up responsibility for one's own well being and happiness. When one begins to expect less. When one begins to have unconditional love to give. And the very ability to smile through the painful, ugly and yet enticing journey , this life really is.

[@Iniabi]

Thank you for taking the time to type this up and sharing with us. Your observations have helped to better understand this concept!

[@nurarondic3686]

I agree with you,very good observation. I only want to add that it is not enough to one only deal with our thoughts,it is needed to revive an old suppresed emotions through our body,thats the key for getting free,and yes,it is not easy at all,it is a heartbreaking.Most of the people do not understand one fact,if we want to resolve something in our lives,whether its anxiety,grief,fear etc.the old version of our character must die first.That person we created as our ego,must die and who is ready for it,very few of us,unfortanetly? We must create a new character and it is painful because it is unknown,but it is the only way out.But most people come and say,oh i just want to anxiety disaperas and i will continue living the way i lived before,well that is imposible.Our past life made us anxious or whatever,it needs to be fixed,not continued.

[@RajVictor]

It is only these difficult conversations with oneself that bothers the individual. The answers are really simple and straightforward, yet some go in search of mystical answers that can never be found at least for practical purposes and are quite likely non existent. Who does not know that answers are in Love, Wisdom, Righteousness, Truth, Courage, Contentment ... This is Spirituality which provides happiness to one and all. Acceptance rather than Searching is extremely important when it comes to domains other than our inner world (thoughts and emotions) and the material world.

[@uncleanAlibertine1]

great mind!

[@pinkifloyd7867]

It's amazing how fear blocks remembering all that good sense and wisdom....

[@cleantechservicesbangalore3213]

Very very true. It's the thought that does both good and bad. Choosing either is what intelligence.

[@solomontekleab4531]

.....natural self preservation, which is a response of intelligence operating is quite different from the fear, which is a product of thinking. What a wonderful and healing teaching!!!

[@RajVictor]

Nice. So we have legitimate fear and something which is caused by the mind dwelling unnecessarily on undesirable things. Do we need 14+ minutes for this?

[@infomexico1379]

@@RajVictor Good reflexion, I think It helps. even if it takes more than 14mi to do not let yourself be trapped by people with ideals who are trapped by meaningless psychological situations, or try to help others to free themselves from these mental ties. It seems so simple but it is profoundly important to experience these wise reflections, in order to have a clean mind. IMHO

[@stitzefilms299]

I am in fear of the outside, out of fear of the inside.

[@ananda6754]

Thank you thank you thank you 🙏💚

[@sanekabc]

Fear can be put away completely but not permanently. It will arise again and again.

[@katashley1031]

@@tpb1006 Vipassana does seem like pure magic.

[@madelynhernandez7453]

I agree.

[@mayaciza8337]

❤❤❤

[@tinabrittandresen6507]

❤️

[@suganthikaruna7466]

He is talking about the soul / pure consciousness indirectly. We are not the body, mind or intellect, but pure consciousness without thought. If we reach the state through meditation, then we won't have even fear of death as we all actually are formless, limitless, indestructible , existence - consciousness- bliss only basically. It is our true divine nature , without worry, anger or fear.

[@trieuo5270]

"Fear is something new each time..."

[@preethikrao]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@dnyaneshpandit6296]

So mind is necessary for intelligent functions, but rest of the time it can rest through meditation...

[@ambientmeanings1607]

The 'Answer' is that no matter what, Fear, like all other emotions, can be brought under our command at will; like our beating hearts, Fear will always be part of the Life experience. How we react to our Fears is what makes the difference.

[@KINGJUNAID555]

You are going off... *you* are fear... The observer is the observed

[@magnamia]

Is he saying that fear itself can cease to arise or that we can cease reacting to fear?

[@george1449]

Well I know what he says. He is saying like the fear is basically an accumulated past experiences which you regard as negative and brain associated them as fears or traumas etc. And, therefore, you as a separate I bring about them in your mind and it produces trembling or anxiety or depression etc. Ok, I get it. But unfortunelly, this is not really practical. What is he saying is like basically give up the ego, which is merelly impossible, unless you suddenly have a mystical experience in conciousness.

[@bitkurd]

@@KINGJUNAID555 What’s the problem with fear? You will get bored and commit a suicide if there wasn’t fear. Mind wants to play some games until it finds its source. The only problem is we are taking everything for granted and too seriously

[@Alex722]

Doesn't suicide comes about exaclty because of fear?

[@dannycassinellibarac9993]

Emptiness to see. Yo see the surroundings as they are

[@theelixir9391]

🙏

[@ABetterEarthForOurChildren]

Everytime fear is observed without the observer it just vanishes. But it also comes back after it's not observed anymore. Maybe the fear is just deep rooted and needs to be observed until it vanishes completely

[@rickroger7033]

Fear is like a tree with many branches. There are innumerable particular fears. The root of the tree of fear is the idea of Living without the I, the me, the self, the thinker, the mind, the psyche, the consciousness.

[@mawandemdutywa2571]

Layman explanation if I ever saw one

[@Fabio6164]

Thoughts create fear, awareness or observation of the thoughts transcend the fear. Is the message. Absence of awareness of the process means there is identification with the fearful thoughts. Then total fear sets in. Awareness of the process means there is dis-identification with the thoughts. And fear becomes transcended.

[@NondualityChannel]

Fear can cease to arise. 🙏

[@YskarAlbumLuna]

Why you fear fear so much? I love to feel fear and suffering, thus i cannot feel fear and suffering anymore. It's so funny, to see the pursuit to end suffering, to achieve happiness, all a big joke, hahaha. This is all bullshit. Enlightment, spirituality... bullshit. Just live your life, yeah, that's right, keep the pursuit. It's a paradox.

[@madelynhernandez7453]

Yeah but it still exists

[@Anxh007]

@@YskarAlbumLuna u ok

[@daraabdullah293]

Our thoughts is a illusion play's treak to our mind.

[@davidram361]

"Thought" Dr Watson.

[@namanbakshi1]

Thought is the creator of fear. The moment you observe fear without analysing it, Fear disappears. Don't act, don't react. Just observe. In the these are just thoughts turning into emotions.

[@marcellacole6132]

Just an illusion that can manifest into a reality, depending on how vulnerable you are to its self creation and manipulation of your own mind

[@user-yt4qi6in9o]

Stay alone some time and mind become very quiet and peaceful and we are free from fear

[@marvingainsborougify]

Painful to see how Mr. Anderson doesn't follow but needs to keep in conversation.

[@himanshusingh3890]

See the full conversation, you will not say the same

[@poemsofplupp]

He gets it :)

[@katashley1031]

So you follow everything everyone ever says to you in conversation, do you? And when you don't, you just stop participating?

[@ankynguyen4506]

Finally!

[@peterf6425]

Agree, his silence rather than interruptions would be welcome. But in all fairness, I think few people can match K in his depth of understanding.

[@seamusdebuitleir20]

With respect, the jesuits said over 400 years ago give me the child and I will have him for life.? The deep rooted conditioning in the common man is so so so deep....

[@madelynhernandez7453]

See its like they get you to agree on things like about the self because in a way it makes sense so because they ask all these tricky questions they make you believe you are really agreeing with them and they are right. When in reality you cant make heads or tails of it or even if you see where they are coming from, you dont feel the same way they do.

[@marcellacole6132]

Fear is a product of ignorance which has no boundaries if you are not aware of what it means to, ignore it or dismiss its presence self awarenes is a veey strond tool which can purge your fears from your emotions, by facing your inner mind and creations of a python substance that has been made a reality through loneliness and being mis understood through self neglect and uncertainties of your life..

[@skobywankenobi]

Fear means you need to go further and press forward, not run away. You don't become strong by being a coward. It takes an additional and almost inhuman level of strength to do this when that fear lies within us, when we are what we're afraid of

[@katashley1031]

Sometimes fear is also instinct guiding you away from harm. I've experienced that a few times in my life.

[@micarmo1948]

With Krishnamurti, interviews didn’t work at all. Usually the interviewer and the interviewee (Krishnamurti) totally were at different levels. Krishnamurti was better left to speak alone.

[@kingspunkbubble]

David Bohm is good though

[@katashley1031]

I love watching these two talk, I think they have a great rapport.

[@himalayanKite]

​@@kingspunkbubbleya. not to the level. I feel they are obstructing his flow. But that's what we are made up of😂

[@jaycowijaya4058]

​@@katashley1031they seems on different level of existence

[@AnthonyHoward-ru8su]

It is said that fear is the opposite of love to observe through a dualistic perspective

[@Carlos-qz7ul]

When a dangerous animal approaches you in the woods, you're afraid for an instant, when you move away from it, you feel better and better. If you must cross the woods again, you plan some precautions. If you deem it too risky, you don't. Here, there's not the pain of the constant fear generated by thought, which is often so engrained that we're not conscious of it anymore

[@dnyaneshpandit6296]

Is it true for all other emotions, as for fear...

[@vinodboggula5633]

All Psychologists need to understand the JK insights first before the practice.

[@dannycassinellibarac9993]

As formless energy

[@marcellacole6132]

Fear can be produced by association of others who inject a manipulation to the empathetic person who intentions are to give or treat a person with moral respect and care, which leaves you vulnerable to someone who is evil and stoic in their minds

[@samarthachaitanya2500]

Can the mind observe(without using intelligence or an analysis) the movement of fear without the thought which has created the OBSERVER? Observer is the thinker.. the thinker is the THOUGHT himself( in that sense). More than the element of FEAR, THOUGHT is more responsible for creation of the fear. There is interference of thought more than the very fear itself. When the THOUGHT understand itself obstain to project itself, there is no movement of thought and FEAR will be eliminated without the wings and substance of thought.

[@sundeep18]

So to try and simplify it a bit. What you're saying is that the "thought" may occur but it's the "over thinking and Analyzing" of that original thought that causes it to become a "fear". It's when we attach to the original thought all our judgements and past experiences /beliefs....that the thought itself begins to mobilize and become a fear. Instead if we just observed it for what it is and didn't judge or analyze the thought .......it disappears Right ?

[@sahilsharmaest24]

I have tried and tried but I never understand anything what this great man says.

[@katashley1031]

Communication is complicated. Not everyone receives information the same way. Have you tried using the subtitles and reading what he's saying? Honestly, that helps me a lot because he is often very abstract and going into some pretty deep, layered concepts.

[@chandanapathirage206]

To me not only fear most of the issues in life could be over come by applying this ... everything just a Thought.... Life living, death... reincarnation.. just a fraction of thought....

[@madelynhernandez7453]

How is it healing?

[@madelynhernandez7453]

Okay but if these things are real and will happen, then does it make it not real? For example if you are scared of death and then realize its just a thought that is making you scared, it doesn't take away the fact death is real and will happen. So I don't see how the fear will go away just by observing it.

[@sharonfisher3179]

I definitely fear Allan's eyebrows. 😨

[@mvp5514]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jorgegarciapla6880]

I would like to share something that I have understood, just now, about what Krishnamurti reminded us so much: 《It is only possible to put an end to thought, to time, right now; and when thought ends, truth comes to the surface, love comes to the surface》. Concretely, and precisely, what has been shown is the deception to which we are subjected by the past, by established ideas, which prevent us from penetrating the truth that lies behind Krishnamurti's words. The systems of thought accumulated over millennia, which act when that sentence is read, make us see it in this way: 《You can only end thought today, and not tomorrow, if you procrastinate, you will never get it; then, from that moment on, love, truth, will finally come into your life, and thought will never bother you again》. That is the reading of common logic, the voice of our frenetic living, it is a fact that this is how we see it. The mere fact of communicating that phrase to someone, transfers that spatio-temporal substance, the reward-punishment, obviously because that is how conditioning is perpetuated. A tangential look, devoid of established values and canons, reveals to us the true -and completely new- meaning of Krishnamurti's quote: 《True thought is born now and also dies now; the now is the timeless, it is eternal, therefore, "ending thought" is not an accomplished goal, not a milestone to be reached at a certain point within the timeline, but a continuous and eternal movement of creation and death of thought-forms within the limitless sphere of the now. Love, truth, is just that eternal cycle of life and death, perfectly synchronized with the movement of thought (the divisive movement of thought ceases to have any relevance). Such thinking, synchronized with love, is thinking taking its place, so that each form is always new and fresh, is creative, therefore, does not harbor the slightest trace of subjugation, fear or suffering. Thinking divorced from love, thinking that does not die now, is a prison of eternal search for "love", is a pit of suffering; thinking amalgamated with love, simply is love, brings the experience of the immeasurable》.😊

[@perfectionprogression4151]

I see

[@neffynavas9056]

Attachment

[@narenderpal1534]

If thought, time and movement are the causes of fear then why a new born baby is fearful of any high sound,, high light,, high touch?

[@doughalversen7913]

It's the other s, I ok with me

[@samuelcleland3478]

Fear is necessary emotion, without fear you might walk over the edge of a cliff and fall to your death. Without fear you might put your hand in the fire, without fear you might walk up to a lion, without fear you migt drive your car too fast and die, fear serves a purpose. We can overcome fear with faith. When we learn to trust a power that is truly good we place our faith in the higher power we can release our fears. Without fear we no longer are tormented and can live free, free from fear, free from torment. We can then live rested and at peace, free from the burden that fear brings. Fear often leds us to failure, faith is the path to success.

[@justchillgee]

Hello! I read your comment and I think he may have meant something else than your conclusion. While he was talking about"fear" before lions, he is saying that you running away is not because of fear but because of our survival instinct( fear is not the survival instinct, an instinct is something you do automaticaly without thinking. ) fear is created in our thought, so you need to be thinking to be fearfull. I hope you can understand my explanation.

[@ramanchoudhary5780]

But the thought (cause of fear) maynot be conscious, right?

[@narenderpal1534]

He is saying be animal - human - inbetween !

[@ultimaz100]

"move away from the russian bus"! Pardon the host who appears clueless because it is not an easy subject.

[@user-vj4zk2fz1i]

To express your body feelings in English is hard, isn't it? Or is this only my English issue? An American person is very patiently trying to sense what J.K is talking.

[@stayhappylittlemermaid]

Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones, you'll start having positive results.

[@KINGJUNAID555]

Childish

[@nurarondic3686]

It is not as simple as you said.Thoughts are not rooms,so i go to one and then to another.You first must understand why do you have negative thoughts and accept it,not trying to ignore it and think positive,it is immposible in long terms.

[@user-pd9cq7sm8o]

But what does observing without thought exactly means? 07:30 How can it be possible to observe something without an observer (thought)?

[@djl3009]

It has been described as the "oceanic experience" where the one observing or experiencing events, is in a state where they no longer feel separate from the event or object(s). An absence of discrimination and the presence of unity. It has been postulated that babies are naturally in this state. Certain kinds of substances (mushrooms etc) are also said to offer a "shortcut" to this realisation.

[@GiorgosMufatsaAthanasiou]

It is a process that cannot be explained with words. Through the process of meditation this is possible.

[@prakaashmishra]

I guess when you observe actually observe there is no thought, there is no observer there is only the thing that is observed

[@prakaashmishra]

Also when you ask how - you are looking for a method/technique, something which you repeat and then you have the result that is mechanical you are cultivating something you don't have for example you can't cultivate love you either love or you simply don't.

[@kalimaa999]

You can observe and you are the observer. The problem arises when we superimpose descriptions upon the observer. Let's say I observe a thought that tells me I'm a proud Hindu because that's what my family told me. Am I now an observer observing thoughts or am I proud Hindu observing thoughts? If I take it as truth that I'm proud Hindu, now my ability to observe is diminished because I have to defend that identity. My energy is now diverted from the task at hand because I ran with a thought rather than letting it pass me by.

[@Yogakshema_vahamyaham]

He says when someone threatens you to put in prison then such fear is ok as it is self protective. So does it mean fearing governments and authority are all ok?

[@prakaashmishra]

It is not fear sir

[@yayan19]

Fear as natural consequences of intelligence.. vs fear/worry as product of thought..

[@FreeSkypeGenerator1]

He didn't said "ok" he said it's natural

[@KINGJUNAID555]

Yes physically fear is completely okk for example fear of animal that's ok but psychological fears like what will happen if i lose my job what will happen tomorrow these fears are created by thought

[@Avinash_173]

Me INFJ 614 SO/SX watching this video 😐😔🥺😓

[@chaocolide]

What do you mean?

[@jeanettenejadi1777]

@@chaocolide that's her personality type.

[@paulleone2742]

Maybe Look from where I found. in this tree you may see more from this angle and variation in height . When we hear him and few others alike , we do what we’re taught to do and everyone is still doing it this way . We hear intellectually what he is speaking , and we ( in fact ) our brain does what we were taught, it imagines it , creates an idea . So it’s us - the idea- and the actual thing being described- That is what is . our mind has been allowed by us to do that with everything . Also at the same time - ( what is - ) is we want that thing. We don’t know it , have not seen it , but we THINK we want IT. And then we want SOMEONE ( HIM in this case )to ( DO The work FOR US )TELL US HOW TO DO IT .If one watches himself he will see that above is all a fact . Now after you are looking at all that , can you feel what nature instilled in you the intelligence is there if you stop talking to yourself now , you will look at it and feel the incorrect action , the selfishness of you wanting it and wanting to be told how to get it , and YOU wanting to be separate and be YOU. Nature thought threw every detail The thinking it must taken to create me from my father he had no choice to not love women In cardiovascular manner. She drives us , she has some plan I don’t know it , but I know when WE THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE , and especially a choice to think we’re able to do what we want , she thought that thru too , she knew we would do that , and she gives you what ? This “knowing “ that it OFF , everything is small , we can see it feel no depth . And we keep trying to find IT . Here we are aren’t we . This IM CERTAIN of , this - before I forget WHAT WAS ACTUAL IS we all replied with -their - you - me - all saying what we think about all what WE THINK -it’s not good or bad right or wrong , it is that’s all , BUT WATCH WHAT IT DOES , you will not want it again. - listen again please TO HIS FIRST POINT HE ADRESSES. -So , we want OUR OPINION , we are trying to get something from our opinions - to be right ? Smarter than others ? It’s not bad or good wrong or right- it is a fact and it will give you only what it produces it is the same everytime that is the nature of desire and that’s her answer - WE WANT TO NOT LET GO AND JUMP WITHOUT KNOWING WERE WERE LANDING. What is … She requires we jump no other options . Good luck I hope you see you you’ll see how ridiculously simple it was all along just as he describes .

[@jahnaba22]

The interviewer not get it at all

[@katashley1031]

He spent hours and hours conversing with him, and sometimes we all find JK a bit abstract. He's human. It's OK that he was struggling with this concept.

[@curiouslife2359]

He says absence of thought during fear, fear goes away. He himself told, thought is fear. Is he telling don't fear, just observe fear, so it goes away? Wy he has to tell this much for that.?

[@samuelcleland3478]

Fear also comes from the subconscious mind, how do do stop the subconscious mind, there is way to change our reactions, it must happen to the subconscious mind, it can be reprogrammed.

[@GiorgosMufatsaAthanasiou]

Terrible interviewer

[@lightsongstudio]

But great eyebrows!

[@mvp5514]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@jeanettenejadi1777]

@@lightsongstudio 🤣🤣

[@katashley1031]

He's actually quite wonderful. Watch more of their talks, I've seen hours and hours of it and they have a great rapport.

[@Himanshu_Upadhyay_]

Thank you

[@leilamobasserii]

❤

[@mukrangterang9907]

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