What is there to learn? | J. Krishnamurti

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What is there to learn?
Extract from the tenth conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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[@deanohendo]

Anyone who finds them selfs here at this moment is truly my family

[@PracticalInspiration]

His ideas on what it is to learn has completely changed my outlook on what it is to learn. Such an incredible thinker

[@26bboycat]

There is no thinker and this is not a idea. A idea is a construct of the brain.

[@26bboycat]

@Noway Jose Written nicely. I wish that many not only understand it, but live by it. Life is constantly in movement, when thinking is aware of its own movement and dissolves itself, then one is confronted with nothingness. Learning is now your companion. Be aware of what is, then silence and peace are always there. It is up to you (all), otherwise the brain looks for mental constructs on its own.

[@jigneshvyas3105]

@@26bboycat true

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

I think calling him a thinker misses the point of his ideas. He was a thinker who learned to merely observe, and from those I observations, he asked questions. Questions that rarely seemed to have definite answers, but essential questions nonetheless.

[@fusiongautam1699]

This is the greatest conversation ever about our mind

[@surindersingh-uq4vl]

That is paradigm shift in thought process that requires no accumulation

[@mamapatdontoh3806]

The deepest secret is indeed SILENCE. 🙏 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@MrMaxKey]

So what is silence in your opinion?

[@Kauailove]

The mind has order and makes sense of it all through learning which is man made. The spaciousness that surrounds us IS our tru nature. The day to day order of business takes place in the spaciousness of our awareness. Amazing sage, thats all i can say. His eyes tell it all

[@zalcstera]

I love how open both people are to each others arguments versus how people argue nowadays, interrupting each other every 100 milliseconds. It's very refreshing to see how people's teachings were spoken. I feel at home.

[@Alex722]

Yeah, they didn’t argue. They just had a humane conversation, in which all parties are free to express whatever they have to say in a respectful way.

[@chuckhines459]

Mind blowing discussion!🤯❤ it!

[@sridharsingaravelu4467]

He is really superb and awesome 🇮🇳❤

[@AnnieB007]

One of the greatest minds in the history of Mankind... Pranaam JK...

[@kennethsaunders3621]

It’s incredibly beautiful to listen to him through dialogue

[@gnpantulu1919]

It's true . I made GOD and I try to learn about GOD ! Just feeling is Learning ! Nothing more to learn !

[@ParadoxapocalypSatan]

But we also listen to K to gain a reward...and to avoid pain.

[@osisdangol1284]

You have missed the point

[@ennuied]

Yes and no. I've been listening to K for years, and my suffering is still there.

[@alexkhouri]

​@@ennuied If it's real listening in the sense K's puts it, there is no reward. But if there is a reward, it's not listening

[@chiteshseth4723]

But in silence 😂😂

[@VivekSingh-ih3zg]

@@alexkhouri then how am i to be free from my self centred movement ??

[@martinshannon7632]

Brilliant, and also the. interviewer is a brilliant listener

[@namitana8958]

Learning is not mere acquisition of facts and confirmity to the known aspects, instead it's about unlearning without the intention to unlearn or learn. However today this term is highly corrupted where institutions, mentors and coaches tend to direct the attention of their pupils to any coveted position, idea or familiar material or abstract gains. We are not even shaped to encounter failure, how can learning take place if we are too selective in our palette of emotions...

[@lidkoping07]

Well said! 🙏🌻

[@44decor44]

Right .

[@sylviagung1007]

"What is there to learn?" K says ... Just live on! Passionately! Seriously! Loving one another! Selflessly! What else is there! What does that mean, now? selfless...,

[@KingTrayTovine]

his spirit is reminding us of an experience lost to time but now we have unlimited access to possibility

[@noreentaylor9600]

What a brilliant teacher,

[@simpleman1380]

Great mind ever

[@roxennetiny9846]

Thank you his legacy is Not time binding.. love from Bacolod Philippines

[@gurudra]

🙏

[@viveksanyal2773]

Thank you

[@bhoot786]

Good Morning Sir☀🙏

[@solomit1]

Amazing JK thank you

[@abhijeetshedge8203]

I really appreciate because it is the way to learn

[@tonhettema1005]

Yes, learning is without doubt a process of accumulation! Who does not understand that, denies any possibility of improvement, and suggests that there is nothing for us humans to do but watch the flowers and feel the wind, which obviously is not in any way what we humans are here for! Learning is: collecting, selecting, comparing, joining, evaluating, validating, assimilating, practising, sublimating, confirming and assembling. It is not some automatic habitual equalisation.

[@darlingtonayikuokornoe5097]

You obviously don't understand... He is showing you how to do all that without resistance

[@priyagunaraj6919]

Brilliant 👏

[@samarthachaitanya2500]

"Vedantha" appear to have been put in a ' beautiful sense', where there is a complete and a thorough beginning without any past or accumulated experience or knowledge. So the one without the past/time/accumulated knowledge is none other than the finest and ultimate part of SILENCE. SILENCE IS A FENCE AROUND WISDOM

[@abhijeetshedge8203]

Fentastic

[@terpore]

Moving and static Thank you ❤️

[@kevalvaghela2149]

Mind blowing 🙏🙏🙏

[@PK-lm4cl]

❤❤

[@revittal]

☀️

[@hyperspacejester7377]

✌️ 😎

[@romano3771]

👌

[@davidmitterlehner]

💜

[@leilashams4658]

🌿❤️

[@emanuelamaffezzini7535]

Ti. Voglio. Bene. Grazie. D'essere stato. Qui

[@anantapoudel959]

Being poor you can’t experiment to find out if there is another type of learning but have to learn whatever is natural to mind which is to accumulate. I feel like whole discovery is just possible for rich , poor like me just work out butt off just to survive and can’t even inquire into things because we can’t change even after knowing what is the rite way to live.

[@enziorossa5415]

Absolute nonsense.

[@carpenterfamily6198]

Andy - I thought that just today when listening to an audiobook by Dale Carnegie. Because he had wealth he had the time to learn and write. But folks working just to live ‘ hand to mouth ‘ don’t have the same luxury. But on the other had, I think it’s wonderful that even the poor can learn from great thinkers.

[@ashwinidombale7158]

Hey Andy.Start from asking can u change it,even if it's impossible.Bcoz if u accept that u can't do then it's over then and there.Only if u think can I in some way then slowly you ll find a way and you ll get to wherever u feel happy.

[@heysoumya]

Hos did the rich become rich to start with? Were they poor at some point in their life (except those who inherited)? Those who inherited, will they develop the aptitude to become great thinkers and influencers to the same extent as these great thinkers do? I have also seen examples where riches inherited made them lazy and stay in the pleasure +luxury state. We who are not rich have an amazing opportunity to keep trying to come out of this loop, if we don't, we will still be influencing our next generation.. more power to you.

[@ajitabh04]

Go read biography of Walt Disney, Thomas Edison, Dr Abdul Kalam Azaad, Wright Brothers, Dhiru bhai Ambani etc etc I can tell you hundreds of name...go and check how poor they were in their childhood still they all reach so damn high

[@average_beings_are_natural]

You will know the immediate ....... the meditation can cause peace. That is knowing life. Knowing me. You.

[@cmanjularao9833]

K.......❤️

[@preethikrao]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@honeybadger1971]

Learning how to establish the agriculture farming to give good food to all to win the God than man.

[@Alex722]

This does not go against what K says. Of course learning skills is important, but that doesn’t lead in psychological health. Physical health is secured with knowledge of how to build houses, medical knowledge, food production etc. But this kind of knowledge is not enough on its own to promote and establish permanently psychological health and security.

[@MrMaxKey]

Attention is also affected by knowledge because when you look at tree for example, you are seeing a tree because you know what is it

[@glamour7538]

attention is not affected , before you were attending to the tree and now you are attending to the thought that " thing / tree structure " is actually a tree ( from memory ) . So you're still attending absolutely unaffected , just to a different object of attention that is .

[@MrMaxKey]

@@glamour7538 What happens when you look at the tree even without thinking that it is a tree? A pattern recognition is working internally so you discriminate it as a separate object. That's knowledge

[@kabulkajate771]

All the memory, learn , experience or anything him have in Brain storage The host fully of lower world. Here I can Saw Mr Krishna Murti out/other, different level.

[@gregnicholls8347]

This is difficult to take in when K. says there is no other learning apart from learning about the mechanical. It seems K. means learning that requires action or learning that leads to physical action. i.e. learning carpentry or learning technical skills to draw what the carpenter must make. But of course there is learning about the facts of history or geology etc. And there is no point in learning about God unless it's the history of god as an idea. But there is no point in learning how to behave when the learning don't lead to action. We can learn about love or ecology or human behaviour but it hasn't altered our behaviour. For this, or so it seems, we need to see, sense our own mental activity for it's our own mental, brain activity that is trapping humankind into our destructive behaviour.

[@antonyarulprakash3435]

How to live without physically dieing. ❤️ hope this only for a segment not for normal slaves❤️

[@marlanarsi2590]

What about as quote Abraham hicks 'meditate and receive answers/ knowledge/ impulse or action which can result in knowledge or learning or knowing how to do something or a path to next step - that is ' learning' through divination?

[@ermetetrismegisto5341]

He refers to the abramitic God only. Because God is not an invention of the mind but is something that has been observed. The trick is, he and most of the people ignore what the ancients meant when they said God. Only God exists.

[@bhoot786]

Devastating! 🙃

[@madhavareddy6009]

I have to politely disagree on one point that we learnt nothing from the past. I think we learnt a lot and we are not anyway supportive of wars may be some people still didn't learn but majority did

[@krox477]

That means we are still bound by our tendencies. Hence we did not learn

[@Sophie88889]

Interviewer doesn't seem to understand the essence of what JK is talking about. They don't meet in this conversation

[@emanuelamaffezzini7535]

Grazie possibile traduzione italiano??namaste

[@KFoundation]

Il video completo contiene sottotitoli in italiano: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYLTi6Sdidafe80

[@chandrakaladas1356]

Does he mean predictive learning through insight or intuitive power

[@aliquran7535]

Full video ?

[@AlexLOVE-gz9jj]

How does a baby learn? Is it through observation? Does it sink in so fast in a child because its not yet occupied by memory? Now is the only time to think this through, observe your thoughts, maybe then you can see clearly

[@chandrakaladas1356]

Does he mean learning without purpose? Purpose is selfless

[@jyotibhatt8956]

Conclusion : no conclusion at all, the end of whole and the tremendous freedom(try this). First of all is it possible sir?.

[@bye7451]

willl please sombody telll me what he said simply

[@gk_1336]

There is nothing to learn Because all accumulations (conclusions ) condition (hypnotize) us. Just being aware of our thought process (which are programming us), we will be unconditioned (because the moment we become aware, the programming which is running unconsciously will stop on its own) We just need to unlearn (empty) ourselves

[@carpenterfamily6198]

16:40

[@erik_1953]

Humanity is learning. But very, very slow. Because of there EGO filter. And when i look outside my window, the EGO's only get bigger... And so will be there suffering..

[@erik_1953]

As a child, i would go in to the forrest. Sit stil and watch "observe??" everything arround me... I was surprised, that there was so much live.... Can i explain that feeling??? No... Did i learned something??

[@junaidarrr]

İts interesting that you remember the scene you saw in forest, if you were just passing by you would look araound but you would seeing anything and remember anything. I think its the diffirence he is mentioning. What do you think. Did I understood you

[@writteninthesky]

@@reneeshcr4287 ...a field where knowledge has no place at all... ... is there maybe another field where knowledge would have a place? NO. One field. ...if knowledge has no place at all, maybe other things have? NO. One It is the Knowing whitout knowing. Only the ego can think it knows. When the 《knowledge》 🛶 disappears, The Know 🌞 appears. Know÷Ledge 💎

[@noobiechess8664]

Captions aren't in sync

[@KieranNorth-qr3ij]

UmmMM Hmmm

[@parinyafon]

Where can I find subtitles?

[@habiahabiahabiay]

in english? youtube have an option

[@mk-ue9tx]

Klik on the screen , klik on the 3 points vertical .

[@say1city364]

press cc on the screen.

[@govindmaheshwari2935]

The interviewer is so arrogant i feel

[@obi-wankenobi8326]

Why do you think he is arrogant?

[@LoveAlwaysAlwaysLove]

He kinda seems more like an 'intellectual' rather than a 'big picture' dude.

[@pacogerte2277]

You can see that he says he understood, but it is clear he hasnt undestood and is struggling to undestand what K is trying to comunicate. He is not arrogant, he is just totally confused.

[@rc8406]

I think he’s learning from K and working on understanding because he doesn’t have the information K has Right? I listen to K and have to go over a few times too It’s so wonderful and amazing to hear this gentleman K speak

[@suicidedegree9617]

Arrogant are there for learn, knowing already know

[@krox477]

This definition does not fit in any institution

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