Feminism is Dividing Men and Women and Ruining Modern Relationships!

[@FergusHodgson]

When I was younger, I thought I was the problem. However, once I garnered success and had plenty of women available, I realized they were the problem. Only a tiny fraction cared about men and were attractive for relationships/marriage. Their sense of entitlement was through the roof, and I could see that what my father and grandfather had available to them was no longer available to us.

[@ethansevilla1395]

Feminism didn’t allow women to have careers and have rights, that was the Industrial Revolution and western white men benevolence and rule. Feminism just took credit of that

[@JP-ug9oj]

True, but by labeling men oppressors and calling all things traditionally feminine (aka feminine) patriarchal oppression, feminists convinced women to rebel against their own innate femininity, put their kids in daycare if they have any, and seek employment outside of their untaxed home economies. The industrialists who funding feminist leaders doubled the labor supply driving wages down while also eliminating competition from the untaxed work women traditionally did.

[@QuantumSqueeb]

Corporations used women after WW2 for labor and got other women to convince them it was better to be detached from families. Millions of immigrants and naturalized non white citizens fought for basic rights. Irish weren’t seen as white, nor Italians. They fought for freedoms. African Americans directly did also. Most immigrants labor gave white men the labor they so graciously offered to their women. This “belevolence” is just capitalist/corporate greed using race and gender for profit.

[@blakeharrison3972]

As a man, I don’t hate women I just get tired of being the scape goat of the world. Am I perfect no, is anyone perfect? No, but taking accountability is seen as a sin, and it’s old

[@WoodnetRonnie]

Watching this mesmerizing video dredges up painful memories of the recent dissolution of my 4 year relationship. The departure of my beloved, the one I adore deeply, has left me in a perpetual state of longing. Despite my tireless attempts at reconciliation, I find myself mired in frustration, unable to shake the persistent thoughts of her. Despite my efforts to move forward, I'm compelled to share my inner turmoil and the overwhelming sense of missing her here.

[@Roselinekendris]

Letting go of someone you love deeply presents a formidable challenge. I faced a comparable ordeal when my 6 year relationship ended. Refusing to succumb to despair, I relentlessly pursued avenues to reconcile with him. Ultimately, I sought solace and guidance from a spiritual counselor, whose intervention proved instrumental in restoring our connection.

[@WoodnetRonnie]

How did you discover a spiritual counselor, and what's the procedure for me to get in contact with her?

[@Roselinekendris]

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[@WoodnetRonnie]

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[@Overlord_Barabbus]

You obviously do not understand women. If you did, you'd be horrified. You can't trust any simp that "believes all women" or "not all women" to ease his furious masturbation problem.

[@blikskaters]

It is gratifying to note how more and more young women are beginning to see how damaging feminism is, and what is especially wonderful is that they are bearing witness to it. It is a sign of progress, and when the hatred and discontentment toward men disappears, we as humanity can take another step toward harmony.

[@gregvanpaassen]

"Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it". Advice ignored by most women.

[@franksailor8547]

geesh lady, you should have 1,26 million subscribers, this message is so important for this generation of women and men and even for my generation from the 1960's - thank you

[@lifewithlaur2686]

Thank you! I hope more people can listen to this message. We need to go back to traditional ways of commitment!!

[@franksailor8547]

@@lifewithlaur2686 absolutely

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Well not really she’s not saying anything new you can criticize the red pill space but these are the topics they have been covering for a decade. The reality is the loneliness epidemic is hurting women and society as a whole so now it’s getting attention now.

[@c.f.okonta8815]

@@lifewithlaur2686you were spot on with this video you absolutely 👍 described all the issues with feminism

[@ADifferentVibe]

Great thoughts and you're pretty much on the money. Thanks for not blaming men for everything... 99% of female comments on KZbin about this dating issue has blamed men. For me as man, I find it is just not worth dating anymore. Sure, I have some female friends but I'm not gonna go to bars or open up to women I'm not attracted for the sake of getting married. You women have to come to me and I pick. If none, then so be it. I have my peace and it's their loss.

[@FarawayJohn]

Wow, so advanced in your understanding, good luck. I gave up looking for a lady partner in UK by age 29 despite achieving a top tier of wealth. I adopted children in Asia instead and nothing in life is more rewarding. With them I don't think I will ever be lonely or unhappy for the rest of my life, even though I can't always live in their country, that's how good well brought up children are.

[@lifewithlaur2686]

Thank you!

[@Ranger1991]

@@lifewithlaur2686Women decades ago: We hate men, leave! Men: Ok, initiate Passport Bros. Women: Oh wait, don’t leave us! We still hate you though. Can you not see why this is women’s fault?

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Kids are an asset when people live on farms where having more hands to do labor helps everyone. Having kids when you live in town or in the city costs more money than they save or help which makes them more of a liability. Thats not because of feminism, its because more people live in town and in the cities then in the past. Before modern corporate farming and modern technology it took a lot more people and resources to farm the land. Feminism has made having kids more of a liability because the Ideology leads to more divorce, which leads to child support and court fees and everything, so in this narrow context they exasperated liability but didn't solely make it.

[@nateh8796]

As a "not people" person according to hoe_math, I can confirm that things are much more difficult than they need to be.

[@unlimited971]

Women ☕️

[@MgtowtoAsia]

TV shows like the Bold & Beautiful,Sex & The City give women the idea that they can move in & out of relationships with high value men on easy mode even as they age. Attractive successful men get the pick of the crop & are more likely to pick younger women like Leonardo De Caprio does.

[@TheGismono]

2 thing, I simply do not understand how there keep being girls that want to go anywhere near Leonardo De Caprio, They know his dating history and still do it. Sex & The City etc. are fantasies based on what was women having a midlife crisis. So why is this populare with the 19 year olds? Don't get it.

[@AbhishekMazumder]

"[Almost] 45% of women aged 25-44 may become single by 2030." - Goldman Sachs Enjoy the Female Friendships ride, ladies! 😂

[@Snarge22]

What does State sanctioned "legal" marriage provide to men what they can't already get without it today? Especially considering the downsides to State marriage for men. Does anyone realize that out of wedlock birth for men is a giant bargain? Think about it for a moment. The man, now a father, can be an excellent mentor for his child if he chooses (and the mother and State let him). Yet once that child reaches adulthood the man no longer has to pay for a wife who is now not as attractive as she was in her 20's. I find it notable no one is talking about this. To men this is the bargain of the century.

[@rednab2001]

I would not call losing 20% of your take home pay for the better part of two decades as a benefit. I also don't think that having to deal with a pissed off baby momma all the time is beneficial as well. To be honest, all of this is draining on a man. I should know, I did exactly this. Married at 19 divorced at 23. Exactly 20 years of child support paid. My kids mother made my life a living hell when I lived close by. Both my parents and I were robbed of having children and grandchildren. This is definitely NOT the bargain of the century. If I knew then what I knew now, I would have invested heavily as a young man, retired in my early 40's and went overseas and had a family I could actually keep.

[@tomyoung8563]

@@rednab2001 Child support is still cheaper than having a wife and what divorce does to your financial future

[@rednab2001]

@ What is even cheaper is getting a vasectomy. I got mine at 26, but it was too late. This is the best option for men who want to continue to sleep with women. The safest option is to not sleep with women. A man’s seed should be protected at all costs!

[@whatsupbudbud]

I am in this situation. She wasn't happy, started sabotaging the relationship until I finally said it's enough and she, of course, agreed. We are on good terms, child support is not that much and she is taking on much of the work. And really there is no limit how much I can see him. I'm still not feeling great as I would have loved my son to have both parents together but I'm also happy that we can be loving parents to him even when separate. So I agree with OP that this can be a great bargain, indeed.

[@Snarge22]

I get where you're coming from@. It all seems such a crapshoot anymore. As for me, I stayed in a dead bed toxic marriage (she is manic-depressive/bipolar) for a good 15 out of the 30 years we were married to get my son graduated from HS and out of the house. My divorce cost me $1,500,000 where it should have been half that, plus $90,000 in lawyer fees and two and half years to get the divorced completely finished. Divorce is an industry where the lawyers and judges are parasites on couples splitting up.

[@gilles4444-xu3tc]

Hypergamy, feminism and lately social networks are the root causes of all this mess. But beeing alone does not allow the build a family and raise kids, which finally leads to the society decline. Economy needs kids to grow, and happy people. Simple.

[@Nawskcalbehtmai]

Hold all women accountable.

[@Viewerofthisclip]

I know a woman who one's said that the man in a woman's life should be replaced every 7th year. She was born in the 1940s and I think she spoke for many women in her generation. Yes this is is the generation who revolted against everything and we all live in the aftermath of it, if you ask me. At the end of the day women will have to make up their minds. You can have the mindset described in this video and of the woman's comment I'm referring to. However when your counterpart finds out you can be shure that you will age alone. Your role will be the one of the mistress. And as a mistress you are a part of the entertainment industry. If that is what you want it is what you want.

[@unlimited971]

The 7 mark is really important for whatever reason. I remarked that most relationship end in that brasket(?)

[@Hexenjäger1593]

If I'm worth replacing every 7 years, she isn't worth entertaining for one moment. As long as the state is involved. If women had to stay or just leave with no compensation I think men would actually be ok with forming families and things would be stable again.

[@ethansevilla1395]

I still remember my female professor for sociology pretty much saying the only reason why women did submit aka “ appealing to male sensibilities” , to men back then was because it was an exchange for protection and shelter, but now with the state and corporations being the ultimate husbands, women don’t have to really do that anymore.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Yep and what a fun time that’s been.

[@NathanAmiel]

Thats a good point. We should bluntly tell women that companies make very crappy husbands who wont give them real love.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@@NathanAmiel we’ve been saying that though I think god will be using these generations as a lesson. When there are no children around and there’s a bunch of old lonely people I think the generations watching this will figure out gender roles again.

[@NathanAmiel]

@@reanschwarzer2187 Yeah. We will probably go back to polygyny (one man multiple women) Isaiah 4:1

[@ethansevilla1395]

The only time gender roles will applicable again if there is a collapse or war.

[@tonydecentblackman1327]

Thanks for this. I don't think it's just feminism. Women are mixing traditional approaches with feminism so women want equality outside the home, traditionalism for the man inside the home except she doesn't think she ought to be traditional.

[@ryanjonsson2468]

I tried to approach get to know a woman at the mormon lds church she stopped talking to me texting me back anymore because she said that she wanted to hang out with her friends and I should sit down by a bunch of different people not just only one person and she couldn't hang out with her friends because I was texting her too much and I was quote on quote hovering over her too much so yeah she basically just called labeled me as a creepy perverted stalker even though that was never ever my intentions all i ever wanted was a girlfriend thats it but now I will never ever get to trust another woman ever again

[@markaurelius61]

You say that the difference between the past and now is that women couldn't work. That is not the case. There were a few professions women were denied, but women could work. It was just that society expected marriage and children more, and there was no birth control. People wanted sexual relationships, and all those needs and expectations were solved with marriage. Coincidentally, that also made men more desirable to women, and made marriage happen earlier, when it works better, around the age of 25. In the 1950s my mother left a difficult home life, studied education, got a job, all before she got married. My parents were virgins when they married, before they turned 25.

[@unlimited971]

Yup. Feminists in their obscurantism want to paint the past as of middle to high class women. A farmer girl? a peasant? Nah they didn t care. Only the abject noble women greedy with power they leech off yet never earn nor work. As much trash as the noblemen they live with. All that shows that women never were in good faith

[@christ3000ad]

My honest advice to my sister's is to step back and forgive every man who ever let you down (starting with your Dad) understand that we've all been misled. Understand that us men are handling it and fixing ourselves and most importantly, never use the court to settle a family matter. God bless.

[@andreahoehmann1939]

Feminism allows women to be independent and have their own income. But it does not allow them to turn down this offer and instead commit themselves entirely to a husband. Anyone who does so is socially ostracized. The result: women no longer seek marriage in the sense of the past, but rather take a commercial approach: "What do I get, what do I have to give in return?"

[@DaffyducksTBR]

never hated women, i just think we are obviously put against each other due 2, system structures, money and agendas. always got love 4 who got love 4 me though. salute 2 ur channel and content.

[@markymarknj]

Darlin', I could write a BOOK to respond to everything you addressed! I won't do that though. I'll just post comments that pertain to one thought; I'll post one comment at a time. BTW, I subscribed. One thought I have is that there's another reason why women cannot waste time to get a man. What's that? As a female movie character once said, bachelorhood is habit forming. We men not only grow accustomed to living alone; we discover that we like it. I get to do what I want, when I want, how I want, and where I want; or, I can do nothing at all! Another thing that dovetails with this is that, between 30-35, a man's big head takes over and does more thinking for him than the little head does. That is to say that our ardor for sex cools off as we pass through our 30s. At 62 going on 63, I can still do the deed, but not readily like it was when I was in my 20s. At my age, I can take sex or leave it. Once that's off the table, we have much less desire to be with a woman.

[@whatsupbudbud]

It is worth pointing out that women also lose their libido, in fact, right after birth. Both gender's proclivity towards this outcome also seems rather logical - the task of breeding has been achieved or is likely not to be achieved at all, so resources must be spent elsewhere. The modern social and judicial system just solidifies this.

[@wink3319]

I agree with many statements in the video. However, two comments: First, feminism has not been a movement that showed up in the last 20 years or so. It has been around for much longer. Women were able to work even before feminism showed up. The big difference of the last 20 years was the technological change with social media and the changes in education. Second, a big factor that drove the changes in dating and relationships was the welfare state. Without a welfare state, your family had to provide for your welfare. So, your choice of family membership was critically important and men and women had to work together to get something done. Once, the welfare state took over most of your security needs (retirement funding, unemployment funding, health care) you could basically decide to stay on your own without any risk. The problem is: then, we don't have any children (or not enough) and the welfare state will collapse for a lack of young people contributing and too many old people expecting its benifits. Laying all the blame of the problems of dating and relationships at the feet of feminism is therefore unfair.

[@dharmadasa66]

Feminism and the welfare state go hand in hand. Women consistently vote for more government support than men do. The government and its welfare provisions are now the husband in the relationship, which is what women who seek safety and protection want. That is why women think they do not need men. The welfare state can provide! This stems from female 'empowerment' without the consequences being thought through.

[@TheGismono]

@@dharmadasa66 -- "Women consistently vote for more government support than men do" yeah, just look at the gender split of this last us election. that proves this point outright. @wink3319 -- "Laying all the blame of the problems of dating and relationships at the feet of feminism is therefore unfair." It's not unfair at all, feminist authors like Bell Hooks and Andrea Dworkin and others are prime moves that would demonize men while rewriting history to something where some would belive that wifes was husbands slaves or worse. Insted of partners in a hard world for both sides. This is the main reason why men largely have stepped back from dating women (aka the marriage rates plummeting), and what men is left is the men that is yet to be broken by a women, or the bad boys that all the women are chasing that will largely cheat because they have all the opitions because women don't mind trying to steal a man from another women. This is what have even let to stuff like the Mattress girls hoxs on a campus, and the "man vs bear" question on soical media and other toxic behavior. All this and so much more comes from feminism aka cultural marxism.

[@Snarge22]

While not quite the topic of this video, is it time to create a new and fully detailed legal contract regarding the rights and responsibilities of marriage between a couple? Maybe it, like license agreements, should require active renewal every so often or the agreement expires (think car tabs). Imagine those rules being well known in advance, and that every three or four years it must be revised and signed by both parties with a legal witness (like a Notary). How might that change a couple's behavior in the marriage? I think it's well past time.

[@BaronVonOwn]

Building a career is a 10+ year negotiating tactic to set terms in a relationship. It's based on an adversarial assumption that is core to feminism, and a transactional view towards marriage. No wonder men don't want this. If you're not 100% committed to being a wife or mother then don't be surprised when the family falls apart.

[@davedsilva]

The non virgins are unable to comply. They are designed to return to their first, thus no pairbonding to follow up suitors.

[@villanousvic323]

Glad to see I'm not doing the math alone.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

O no we are all passing notes turns out it’s not just our local area this is a generational problem.

[@tom1600x1050]

I'm a happily married heterosexual man who has been ever faithful to my wife of 35 years and we have two grown children. My take on your video is that dating and marriage and sex and gender relations have always been fraught and difficult and confusing. There have never been easy answers and there never will be. Men and women are different biologically. It's tough to bridge the divide between the sexes. In past times, societies have settled into specific roles for men and women, and it is difficult determine whether these sometimes constricting roles promoted human happiness. But, in every age, in every society, people have found ways to come together, to have sex, to compromise, to make commitments, to be happy and to enjoy life. In the past three hundred years, there has been a definite pattern of increasing empowerment of the individual -- that's a good thing -- for men and women and everybody -- we can do more, we have greater freedom to choose our place in society, we have vastly expanded opportunities. To some extents, feminism is part of this general worldwide trend of increasing empowerment of individuals. It enabled LifewithLaur to make this video. I think a key aspect of human empowerment is to try to win some control over one's own emotions, to understand more, and to see reality clearly without tinted lenses (I wrote about this in my book 'A bible for atheists') and if there's one idea from my book that I might share with you fine people, that might help young people form solid connections with others, it's this -- if you can understand that everything that happens, had to happen, and could not have happened any other way (philosophers call this 'determinism') and yet you can still act and make choices as if you have free will, then you're on your way toward gaining greater wisdom. It's a tricky concept but it's important in so many ways to achieving success and happiness. Best of luck to all you lonely people out there -- keep dating, keep trying, never give up!!! :)

[@whatsupbudbud]

Nice message though it does not make sense what you postulate regarding determinism and free choice as those two are complete opposites. It would be more helpful to view determinism through the optics of computer systems and imagine that universe is a deterministic system where the same inputs always produce the same outputs. What you regard as free will is still determined by the sum of inputs so it is rather illusory. Granted, accepting the lack of free will should bring some peace to many I imagine.

[@tom1600x1050]

@@whatsupbudbud Yes there is a way to resolve the apparent contradiction between determinism and free will. I try to explain it in my book (which is based on my take on the philosophy of Spinoza, a 17th century rationalist philosopher). A quick explanation is that everything is determined -- like in your computer model example -- but within that world, we humans have a sense of making choices -- choices that help us live better -- while knowing that everything we think and do and every choice we make is fully determined by past events. That is, we can grab a 'greater share of the determining' by thinking better, knowing more, being educated, and making better longer-time wider-space guesses about how things will play out in the future. It's my best guess about how things work, and like all things, it should be treated with skepticism.

[@whatsupbudbud]

@@tom1600x1050 Right, but determinism already prices in all of that which is to say that the end result is determined apriori no matter what choices you make.

[@tom1600x1050]

@ I think we're in agreement. Everything is determined; but as humans, we still need to make choices as if we had free will.

[@asdfxcvbn746]

'Feminism is Dividing Men and Women and Ruining Modern Relationships!" ...and women started feminism. will women take accountability for causing the current apocalyptic dating landscape? find out next time on dbz !!!

[@Armored_Saint]

I'm only saying What's On My Mind. ~ Kansas (1976)

[@mustangmikep51]

everything you said is true...so now what? whats the solution to this ?

[@ryanjonsson2468]

And im also know guessing thinking that the only reasons why I always gotten rejected by women more often than I needed should have been and called labeled as a creepy perverted stalker more often than I should have been is because im 5'1 I don't have 6pack abs And I don't make 6k figures income a month and I don't have a perfect looking face and perfectly cloft hair

[@RomainRing-n7o]

A little late

[@fractalelement857]

its not about feminism that much. Feminism is product of boredom and leisure. Its about capitalism and hypergamy - that is the problem.

[@brolaf3792]

I think you should find a new topic to talk about because this has be chewed up and spat out a million times by now.

[@asdfxcvbn746]

ikr women talking about this topic like its a new thing. men been red pilled for ages, women are just now figuring it out smh

[@thomasaanderson7967]

A few thoughts. You said that women don’t need a man multiple times throughout the video. No one has ever needed a relationship. We have pursued them because we wanted them and enjoyed the company of a companion. So obviously it is common sense that choosing to be in a relationship is the result of a conscious choice to share your life with someone rather than some type of a necessity. Do why do people keep repeating this over and over if that is simplistic basic logic that a child understands? Second point. You say that women are top tier and want a top 10% man. Again, this is a very recently made up philosophy that people in society have some sort of social ranking. It’s a very shallow way of thinking. As we all now know, most personal traits that humans have exist on a wide spectrum of variability across a population. Individuals tend to have a mixture of these attributes making each person a unique individual. So one person may be good at running very fast and another good at calculus. One is not better than the other. I actually think that this simple point is the basis of being a functional decent adult in a civilized society. For some reason, over the last couple of years people disregard this and believe that they can somehow rank unique individuals who have a mixture of infinite traits and abilities. Anyone who thinks this way has a serious lack of intelligence. Third. I grew up in the late seventies and eighties and there were many women in the workplace. This narrative that women are just now entering the workforce over the last couple of years is very simply a lie. Every supervisor I’ve ever had was a woman. I think what’s amazing to me is that when we were growing up 40 years ago, we thought that the most important threat was probably nuclear war. Come to find out the true threat that would ultimately come to destroy society was the invention of social media and the brain rot that comes with it. I can only pray that the next generation of kids coming up will reject social media, and stop being brainwashed to believe lies like this. We have to be able to think for ourselves and not be simpletons that just parrot a narrative that has been planted into our brains. Why do you think they want everyone single? Because you have more consumerism if everyone is on their own rather than cooperating and helping each other. That was common sense when I was growing up but now that is just completely lost. At least you guys have tik tok.

[@jimpassi349]

YOU GOT IT THATS THERE JOB THEY MESSED UP THER LIFES NOW THEY WANT TO MESS UP YOURS TOO// IF YOU WANT TO FIND A PERSON ASK GOD TO FIND YOU THE RIGHT PERSON IT WORKS BOTH WAYS THATS WHY I SAID PERSON/ HOW TO INCRESE YOUR CHANCEKEEP YOUR TALKING TO LESS THAN 2 MINUTES THAT WILL HELP A LOT BE NICE AGAIN NO FIGHTING

[@magnumopus5661]

The answer rhymes with grape cave.

[@Spice1_]

Ty

[@mfg0308]

Naturally, my first thought is to flip it.. Would it be Okay? for Men to Say : " I make more money than you.. I guess I don't need you anymore" - This sounds awful, coming from a man or woman. God knows it sucks being alone, which is why he made a 'helper' for Adam, out of his side (not rib). Eve is his half. They need eachother. Sadly, there is no evidence Adam ever asked for forgiveness or returned to God. Fun Fact : Methuselah lived 969 yrs and was wicked AF (Longest Recordeed Human Life) - 1 Cor 15:1-4

[@tomyoung8563]

How does it suck to be alone?

[@mfg0308]

@@tomyoung8563 I simply meant that being alone isn't God's design, nothing against single ppl. Too much isolation is a bad thing for any human. God made marriage and sex within marriage to be sacred and glorifying to him, he cheers it on! God hates sex outside of marriage (hates the sin, not the sinner)

[@gnomedigest]

Just fyi, you mic is feeding back on your "sss" sounds.

[@andre1987eph]

*Try 70 years (really 110).

[@libbychang413]

ask urself these questions: what have been the societal & economic effects of feminism?...&who benefits?...ill give u a clue: david rockefellers name is on it...

[@starkid9736]

get a deesser

[@jensbecker7066]

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[@clintpot8521]

Humans have to get a grip on their relationship to technology. The internet is not a substitute for a real world relationship. Porn, social media, and video games are making people more isolated than ever while falsely promising connection. It doesn't help that people were scared into staying inside for months during the pandemic. Broken families because nobody wants to play the home caretaker role now that women are choosing career over family life. Many men are willing to be the home caretaker, but let's be honest, this is emasculating to most men. Divorce is a frivolous affair where it wrecks a family, yet the 2 adults don't seem to care about their kids enough to make the marriage work. Crooked monetary system where the banks print money and give it to their rich friends while the middle class disappears with stagflation. Materialism. Lots of social issues to deal with.

[@NathanAmiel]

All that matters is that we give our lives in service to God, our lord and savior Jesus Christ. Both man and woman. If men turn to God they will be able to care for their wives and families in the same way Jesus cares for us.

[@TheGismono]

-- "give our lives in service to God" you do you, the Christian book hold alot of stories, but that is all they are to me and the majority of the planet, why bring religion up (oh yeah, not to mention the infiltration of feminsm all over the church, so what good is it). I find as much or more meaning in the works of Shakespeare or even more from J.R.R Tolkien. There is more to take to heart in and more inspiration and even faith in my fellow humans because of just Tolkien, then the bible. -- "If men turn to God they will be able to care for their wives" I think you have lost the plot here. It's the reciprocity from women that is missing in todays world. But of couse of you mean "same way Jesus cares for us", soo nothing, as women do.

[@davedsilva]

In this model, the women turn to God by serving their man. You missed that. That's why non traditional Christian marriages fail.

[@NathanAmiel]

@ Jesus gave his life for his bride the church. If a man is not willing to do that for his wife he does not deserve her. In fact, if we are called to mirror Christ in our marriage, as men we should know women are imperfect, emotional and prone to irrational decisions, in much the same way we may act with God. Yet God still loves and cares for us. That is the love a man should give a woman, unconditional love. It is not a womans job to love a man, it is a mans job to love God, love himself and give any excess love to his wife.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@@NathanAmieland it’s on the wife to submit and support her husband and obey Ephesians 5:22-24

[@NathanAmiel]

@ How does that negate what I said before? If you are not willing to lay down your life like Christ did, why would a women respect your leadership or authority in the first place?