Fender American Pro II VS Ultra

We see how well the Pro II stacks up against the all-singing Ultra Stratocaster.
Let us know what you think! How do they compare?
Fender American Pro II Stratocaster - bit.ly/35fTSPx
Fender American Ultra Stratocaster - bit.ly/3tJPoee

[@arisl2370]

You guys provide some of the best sound clips on YT.. I dont even need headphones to really hear everything...the sound quality is outstanding ! great playing also by the way !

[@marmaladebrah]

your comparison videos are so good!

[@heavymetal11]

Pro 2, the glassy tone is so rich!

[@hindsy3472]

I played both in a guitar center and chose the Ultra for its epic playability. It’s has a neck of heavenly proportions.

[@AngelBuenfil]

Just once I have tried a strat in my life and it was the fender strat elite... I really love it! I have to buy this new ultras luxe 😭😭 the sound, but the playability!!! Even I prefer that feeling at the moment of playing than the Music Man john petrucci bfr 😵😵 weird or exaggerating, but it was my experience!

[@gabrieleguidoni2867]

I would set an ultra neck over a professional. That would be the right guitar for me.. unfortunatly that modern D is not available anywhere..

[@jhkuno88]

Is not just the neck, the body and heel contour are also different

[@RegieFilho]

That D neck didn't sit with me...also the noiseless pickups felt a bit dead. Went pro 2 maple instead. Impressive how neck feel can be subjective. They sure look like million bucks.

[@rctony710]

​​@@AngelBuenfilt's funny actually I have a music man Majesty and an ultra changed my ultra to a hss and slapped in a dreamcatcher himbucler inside I love it so much more now

[@allansmith6715]

Hello from Tampa Bay! Nice licks. I got the Cobalt blue Ultra Maple. Held it once and couldnt let it go. Great job on video. Wish I could visit yall across yonder pond 😅 Have a good'un.

[@77pearcearrow]

I tried both recently and the American Original, and I went with the American Pro II. That neck is just fat enough for me, I am not in to compound radius boards right now. But really the neck is the most important part for me. What a great time to be playing guitar, the quality some of these companies are cranking out is amazing. All three guitars were absolutely on point.

[@e.paradigm7415]

Dude, I first bought the preformer but after listening to a few more videos I am 100% sure that I wanted the Pro 2 instead, luckily I was able to call the place up and they changed it to the Pro AND I was able to negotiate the price a bit. So I saved like $150. I am WAY more happier with my purchase. Can't wait to try it out on my Fender Champ 100 with the Crybaby, Tube Screamer, DS1, and Walrus Slo pedals. I bet it's going to rock some ass!!! 😎 Happy Birthday to me

[@SalvoVecchioGuitar]

that sunburst is spectacular

[@sehu2754]

Great comparison 🤘🏻

[@mortonwilson795]

Thanks for this - perfect timing and approach for me as I am currently checking out both (the rosewood fretboards) and will do another round of comparisons over Easter on either side of the (HK) harbour at the 2 main Fender outlets. I play clean fingerstyle a lot (with a bit of MXR Analog Chorus or Neo Ventilator 'Leslie') and go into my 'oldish' Bluesman Jnr. so there ya go! Perfect! The Pro II came off as more 'for me', altho I must say the Ultra neck has an edge. Cheers!

[@user-gt4lu6ym4c]

Great video for such a small channel.

[@GuitarTimeWithBillyC]

I have the Ultra, and I love the playability. I’ve had some great Strats, but this Ultra is the best. Plays so easily, and great features.

[@Ingeborg323]

You`ve never got into your hands a used ESP 400 Series Strator, an ESP Vintage Plus Strat, a BLADE Texas Classic or BLADE Texas Standard Pro? Read my commend!

[@phenixreturns]

the important and how bright are the clean tones and the sustain and with a high gain setting and the trem and tuning stability and the shred solos and the nut and the tuners @@Ingeborg323

[@duxestmachine]

Am surprised how those noiseless pickups sounds, solo damn close to the Vmod2 and noiseless!! I just bought an Am Pro II anyway and it's the sound i was waiting for. It's perfect !

[@gessopalena]

Very nice job

[@MDCSYD]

I’ve been playing Suhr & Tom Anderson for the past few years. Only very recently I got the Ultra and I’m blown away by this D neck with compound radius board. The neck is different comparing with my other boutique guitars but it’s so damn comfortable and fast? A fast D neck shape? Who would have thought!! The fit & finish is faultless too. And the best thing is I paid about half of what I did on my other guitars. If you are in the market for a contemporary Strat and don’t want to go spending boutique builder money then I strongly recommend you check the Ultra out! I’ve read before that this is Cory Wong’s (check him out if you haven’t already) most favourite neck and now I can understand why…what a fabulous neck!!

[@f.valguarnera1486]

I'm going to try both this week or the next. Judging from this video, the Pro II has a slightly more pleasant tone. I wonder, however, how much depends on the Pro2's slightly larger output.

[@craigthomson3621]

Both guitars sounded pretty good. Spec wise, I think the Ultra should have stainless steel frets as standard, and an Ebony fretboard as an option (Maple and Rosewood remaining as also available). That would then allow Fender to factory fit locking tuners as standard to the American Pro II while still maintaining spec differences between Professional and Ultra to justify the Ultras slightly higher price. For lefties there is only one choice as there are no left handed Ultras, but in a couple of months lefty Professional II’s will become available.

[@yessitsme6884]

Wouldn't be surprised if an Ultra II came out in 2021 with these specs and a 100$ ish price hike.

[@craigthomson3621]

Fender have released a lefty Ultra SSS Strat, and a right handed UltraLux range with stainless steel frets and a matching headstock.

[@phenixreturns]

not the ultra does not need stainless frets to have a brighter sound except for the Floyd rose model

[@user-of8ex1fw4p]

12：31 to 13：15，you can see the distortion of ultra is more tight than Pro II,distortion of Pro II is a little bit loose.The clean tone,both are beautiful.

[@emmettw123]

Love the sound of that Ultra. Me wants it!

[@thejaysatspindrift]

got my first Strat this week after 50 years of Tele's and 25+ years of PRS… Dark Night Pro 2, tones off the planet imho

[@MrStrat70s]

The Pro 2 has brighter highs but the Ultra sounds more refined and rounded. I'm sure your amp EQ could roll off the highs (if needed), depends on tone you're after. I'll be ordering an Ultra. Both quality guitars.

[@phenixreturns]

A simple video can't really show how a guitar sounds totally subjective

[@gibsondcxpl85]

I have an AP2 and love the neck, took me awhile to get used to the clarity and brightness of the pickups, it’s much brighter than my 97 Am Std which sounded dull by comparison. Very impressed with the noiseless pickups on the Ultra, very convincing and I think some EQ tweaks could get them sounding even closer

[@jimmyjimmy951]

Just ordered the Pro ll in the Olympic white and Rosewood board. That is one classy looking Strat that won’t date like the flashy colours do / will.. 👍🇦🇺 Edit: Just picked the difference in the way the Pup heights. Would be interesting to hear the comparison with the Pup’s seta at the same height! 👍🇦🇺

[@seancasey5024]

That Pro 2 sounds amazing.

[@mysticsailor9]

I can hear the softness of the noiseless pups..but overall its damn close.

[@captainsmitty353]

What do you think about the P Basses?

[@sublyme2157]

I chose the Ultra for the cobra blue finish and noiseless pickups. All the gentle subtleties that are missing in noiseless pickups are completely washed out in a band setting anyway, which is what I use my guitars for at the moment, so it was an easy decision for me. For home use however, I really would like to pick up one of those Pro IIs!

[@bustanorms2028]

Love the bright clean sound of AP2,

[@baileyva]

Fender Ultra!!!!

[@vyvynylification]

I can get a ultra strat in texas tea now due to a deal for less than a pro II. Would it be worth it? If i don't like the pick ups i could swap em out and then the price would equal that off a pro II... I'd say yes but I prefer the deep C neck over the D

[@MrCircumflexus]

Came for the ultra, left with the proll Together with the super sonic 22 Epic combo. 👌

[@garytoner5719]

Bought the Pro II Mystic surf green with rosewood neck. No complaints. Awesome and much cheaper than the Ultra.

[@dallasmitchell6999]

I started off just wanting to get a fender Tele player, then a strat player, then a strat player plus, then a strat pro 2 and now I’ve seen this video I want an ultra thanks a lot! 😂

[@superflea7219]

Pro II sounds better to me in this comparison, but you’re right…a great neck/will easily sway a player away from preconceived notions. 🙂

[@Bladerunner007]

It’s hard to tell with KZbin compression. The ultra sounds a bit more bright and twangy. Do you find that to be true?

[@diegoneira9326]

I'm liking the sound of the ultra bit better. Over all, the Pro II sounds a bit crispier on the highs (a bit more agressive maybe), but te Ultra has a more rounded sound, a fuller body I'd say (more presence in the middle frequencies. Anyone felt the same way? Ultimately, it will depend on your own personal taste

[@diegoneira9326]

@Luke wow! That's some awesome input!! I'm planing on buying a Tele Ultra myself, this comes in handy 😁

[@barrylaffoon6287]

I heard same. Ultra sounds better. I thought it was because the pro was more aggressive in the higher tones which smothered the mids a bit. So I thought the Ultra was a bit warmer.

[@izotopz]

Yep that was my first intuitive take on it. That said, they both sound great and the tone difference is so slight. Had they not been compared side by side, one right after the other, I could never tell the difference.

[@LucaCo]

yes, ultra seems more clean but a little bit less output....anyway i prefer ultra...

[@simonecelante4174]

Grazie! Molto bello

[@raffaele.eleonorafrazzi6387]

Thanks for the review. I have a professional II and thanks to your demo I understood better the neck-bridge and neck-middle-bridge pickups (use the push push). I do not get how the ultra has one option/tone more than the professional II. I mean the middle-neck that seems to sound just in the ultra. Could you explain that to me? Thank you, cheers

[@fusionpete333]

Good comparison. The Ultra sounds a little darker. Everyone has their own opinion, but for me, I like a Strat to have the classic thinner sounds. If I want something darker, I have an Ultra Luxe Tele, which is also amazing.

[@nathanglass512]

These pickups are so close after listening 4 times its simple; get the APii, and with $500 in savings buy you the $50 locking tuners sold separately and pick out some pickups that REALLY stand out far more than either of these; like Porter, Lace sensors, or Dimarzio Areas. You'll have money leftover even after installation of new pickups. I played both and they are both comfortable so ask yourself if you're really getting $500 more with the Ultra. Its never been hard to reach the high notes anyhow so who cares about the extra carving on the back of the Ultra? You can turn the Pro-ii into a beast with that much leftover. Most of us arent worried about noise anyway because its not really an issue, unless you play high gain. Most Strat guys don't do metal on these anyways, except Yngwie. I actually preferred the tone and neck of the Proii, plus lets be honest, most of the available colors for the Ultra are really weird. I want the 75th commemorative but its impossible to find right now.

[@billgreen3629]

Hmmm. A loaded Porter 1960s pickguard is about $300. An APii with Porters, Hipshot locking tuners and bent saddles is a heck of a guitar or less than $2k USD.

[@wedrivebynight]

You dont even need locking tuners. The factory ones are fine.

[@AshtonWolfwood]

I bought the ultra after playing my friend's old strat for over an year. I'm really missing those high clarity frequencies that the normal pickups produce. I've been thinking about replacing all the pickups with the original ones (54'). To my ears, it sounds more 'realistic', like 'acoustic guitar'. The noiseless sound more like humbuckers with muffled highs and boosted mids.

[@gabrieleguidoni2867]

Go for it. I perfectly get your point.

[@pauljohnson1422]

I replaced the noiseless pickups on my ultra with Seymour Duncan’s . Now it sounds like a strat should. Not that the noiseless sound bad, the SD’s just sound better.

[@bustanorms2028]

@@pauljohnson1422 i also plan to change my noiseless on my strat ultra,didnt like it much

[@maraviyoso8473]

@@pauljohnson1422 if you would've bought the AP2, you wouldn't have to pay extra for the guitar AND the pickups. They got you 😏

[@maraviyoso8473]

@@pauljohnson1422 so you made an Ultra sound like an American Professional sounds and wasted at least 600 bucks in the process. WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!

[@GibsonFender]

I got the ultra last week. The neck is unbelievable

[@songnaru]

I was waiting this comparison so bad. Honestly, I think I will not able to distinguish both guitars by sound.

[@samblack5313]

Pick the neck you like then 🤙

[@robertw1871]

I love the pro II the neck is amazing for me and the pickups are very very good...

[@derekjohnson5720]

I liked the ultra pups better. I'm waiting for the ultra tele vs the telecaster pro 2. Sitting with cash for either thanks to a massive 30 birthday cash present from my big brother, was in utter shock with his generosity and actually in tears! As i can now own a guitar i could only ever usually dream off! Lovely playing as usual Adam!!

[@o.w.dobbins6927]

Brothers are irreplaceable.

[@gustomundo]

both sound similar, have to think an eq tweak could make up any difference

[@Angus576]

Pro II is more balanced and had better mid snd base. Ultra noiseless pickups are yo blame for the trade off.

[@chrisfelix7257]

The ULTRA is the king of all strats for me 🤟🙂

[@yairgoren6442]

I would change pups tho

[@chrisfelix7257]

@@yairgoren6442 Which pups ? Why ?

[@brent3086]

@@chrisfelix7257 Because they have a genericly boring and tame sound. If I wanted that sound I wouldn't be buying a strat in the first place. I'd go with something much different.

[@yairgoren6442]

@@chrisfelix7257 I would probably change to the custom shop 69's Just because I don't like the sound if the noiseless pups, just feel like they don't catch the single coil spirit..

[@markerf16]

The ultra on paper looks good - but I have yet to hear anything that would make me want to buy it. That goes for the Tele's too. No Fender mojo or goodness at all from the new noisless pups. To make things worse I wanted a 6 saddle telecaster and I would have to buy an ultra to get that which means I get no telecaster this year.

[@scouser2230]

I like the Pro II tone over the Ultra because the tone is livelier and louder. The Ulta sound somewhat muttered.

[@rich.stringss]

It is exactly like you say, I tried both and the pro II is winner, much bolder

[@scouser2230]

I also tried both and bought the Pro ll, which as you said is livelier and the Ultra sounds muttered.

[@ryanguitargodfrey]

The cheaper they get the more tinty and trebly they sound. It's totally obvious in this comparison that the ultra has more of a mid-tone boost and the professional is a little brighter sounding. The Mexican is even more brighter sounding than that. So if you like that high tinty bright sound that's for you. However I prefer these mid-tones to come out of the ultra way better. I have a 1997 Big Apple Stratocaster which is dual humbuckers. The mids that come out of that is where the quality comes from. After watching this video it's ultra all the way for me. I did just get done playing one of these and guitar center and holy cow what a dream. I lead in a Pink Floyd tribute band And at the music store the ultra sounded way better and felt way better to me.

[@guitarlson]

Played both, pro ii definitely sounds better, ultra feels better. I’d swap pickups in both of them anyway, but pro ii’s are very decent. The gen 4 noiseless are also much better than previous iterations but in the room still have that noiseless sound which wouldn’t bug you unless you’re a purist -

[@Twylightt]

And put some custom 69?

[@crisevens7238]

I personally choose the ultra ! The sound is thicker ... especially in overdrives, in this test, it is quite obvious ! If you had to keep only one, which one would you choose?

[@Stratplayer05]

That's kind of funny, because I was definitely about to say the exact opposite for the same exact reasons. I deliberately scrolled away from the video so I could do it blind and just base it on what my ear told me, and basically every time I scrolled up thinking "wow, that tone is really thick and nice" it was the Pro II. I guess that just goes to show how subjective sound is.

[@crisevens7238]

@@Stratplayer05 now that i hear them again ... you may be right my friend :)

[@Stratplayer05]

@@crisevens7238 I certainly hope I am. I'm just about to pull the trigger on a Pro II and break the cardinal rule of not having played one in person first (I have played a Pro II in person, but it was a Tele). Apparently the V-Mod IIs are supposedly closer to what Tim Shaw designed with the V-Mods. I wonder if that's what makes the difference here.

[@crisevens7238]

@@Stratplayer05 go pro ii my friend ...the sure thing is that this is a more authentic strat and that's what we want ! ...but SSS or SHS ? :)

[@Stratplayer05]

@@crisevens7238 Throwing a little addendum on this, I've gone and bought a Pro II Strat (HSS as I'm a weirdo who cut my teeth on HSS Strats). V-Mod II pickups are love. V-Mod II pickups are life...

[@Twylightt]

I was going to buy de purple ultra ebony, play it and am pro II , buy Pro II, olympic white. The feel of all guitar, the neck, sound, like it mutch….but shure , the purple color was very good

[@justice100forwin2]

I just thought the Ultra had a tighter sound with more clarity....but it's subjective of course. Thought the V2 pickup's got a little brash on chords with the overdrive.

[@865misty]

Ultra 🤗🤗

[@Rogijimbex]

Just purchased a Pro II HSS. In this video - which is done very well...I preferred the Ultra sound. To me it was more focused and glassy. The subtle power was very pleasing as well. As usual I'm all mixed up on just what Strat does what ...further exemplified by my simultaneous purchase of a Fiesta Red Classic Vibe 50's Squier which sounds even more authentic than I ever thought a less expensive guitar could. It's astounding how well mid to low priced guitars are made and sound (Additional example - Epiphone Classic SG w/ P-90's - a rocking' machine). Anyway - the Ultra captured me in this comparison.

[@erenioignacioalmontecorzo120]

me gusta más la pro II. THANK

[@rodneyshima1375]

👍👍🇺🇸 the ultra for Christmas to myself

[@uv777gr]

To me its more about the feel than how "good" it sounds. They both sound "good" whatever that means to your ears and rig.

[@sboy1955]

Broke out the Bose Silencing Headphones on this one… the Pro II pickups seem would be better for classic Rock and Blues. But the Ultra’s are not as bad as I’ve heard through the rumor mill.

[@plam1765]

pro 2 the sound more taste and warm, ultra very clean and soild like Hi-res music

[@someguy5035]

Ultra sounds nice and glassy, but it also sounds like it is 10ft away from the mic. Almost synthetic.

[@rinzan28]

Ultra sound much smoother plus with its other ultra features.

[@cjjames6553]

Ultra is so amazing.

[@the_Googie]

Pro 2 for me

[@rocktommy7638]

歪はULTRA、クリーンはPRO 2 ライン取りはULTRAが使いやすそう

[@user-pf3cr8xm1i]

왠지 프로2를 더 광고 할려고 찍은느낌 아주 개인적인 생각입니다.

[@user-os4if3mr9g]

정확히 보신듯요^^

[@josemanueldvu1866]

Pro II for me

[@chuckwolfboyer7830]

ULTRA #1. 😎 COOL

[@artgillespie162]

I played both and chose the ultra cause I cannot stand those 61 0 5 tall frets. is like running my hand across a cheese grater and if you happen to notice the pros don't use those either. all of the artist series guitars have different sized Frets and most of the pros I know don't like the tall frets either

[@keesketsers5866]

Finally someone with the same opinion. I don't like "narrow tall" frets. I have les Paul with narrow tall frets and like you say : your fingers get caught behind the frets when sliding a few frets up and down. It's why I dont play that guitar anymore. My favorite frets are actually jumbos, and I cannot give you a reason why anyone would like smaller, thinner frets....what is the drawback of jumbo frets? They slide better, bend better and last longer, whats not to like?

[@MegaDriver007]

Personally I prefer the tone of the Pro 2

[@fritzherrmann762]

These titles are for marketing. They are all great. Mexi too.

[@bluemonday9538]

Here is the answer : Expensive one sounds better

[@superflea7219]

nope

[@seancasey5024]

Pro 2 sounded best and it cost less.

[@23skidoo46]

"d shape" is no buy for me. Pro II for me.

[@petesorensenguitar]

The AmPro II is ~3599 NZD and the Ultra is ~4500 NZD, so it's hard to justify making the leap. I'm sure the ultras are insane.

[@shelloiluk]

Move to London only £1500 and £2000 in local currency plus you’re paid more 😮

[@michaelotten1956]

To me the white guitar definitely sounds better..no question.

[@esl8671]

Ap2 for me

[@victorbennett5414]

Buzzy frets. Just like my Tele pro 2. Half Round 10s help.

[@saddle8bag]

Guess it depends how one plays. Put a little dirt on and it'd probably be impossible to tell the difference. Played clean, the single coils sound better, but get in a room with 60 cycle hum and that may difference may not be worth it.

[@michaelneal8384]

pro II sounds a bit more organic

[@Ingeborg323]

Oh, i love playing Stratocaster-guitars, and i love to choose guitars who are better than Fenders, especially better than Fender USA! My first Stratocaster was an end-80ies ,,Fender American Standard Stratocaster“, and it was my worst guitar ever, and i´ve had a second Fender Strat, a mexican-Version, called ,,Fender Standard Stratocaster“ and this guitar have had a Poplar-body and sounded like soft shit. And so I learned that either Fender is cheating us because they deliver poor quality and workmanship or overpriced guitars with wet, poorly stored and less vibrating woods, and trying to compensate for this with overloaded, or fat-sounding, pickups, and that is the reason for the myths of the real, old vintage Strats, because back then they tended to use woods that were stored and had better vibratability were used. Or, and this is certainly true, the production volume is so high that the company is no longer able to get wood of the same quality for the entire production, and then the really good, well-vibrating guitars come from the current production not to Germany - I am in Germany, a country that the USA keeps under military occupation to this day, so we Germans are like modern slaves of the USA Occupation Force, the USA controls Germany to this day and abuses us Germans as a source of money ! At the beginning of the 90s I got my hands on my first ESP-S-400 series Strat, now there are four, but this first one had 42 slanted annual rings and had such a great attack and cracky, bony, twangy and wiry-sound by dry-playing, and this guitar has beaten every Fender USA Custom Shop Strat by far in comparisons, let alone the production models from Fender and also a real, vintage Fender 1963 Strat. Around 2006, based on my good experiences with ESP, I bought an "ESP Vintage Plus" Strat, with the best, densest wood, superbly crafted and with a flattened neck-body transition (SSS variant), this Vintage Plus was once again on point Overtones and sustain are a step better, they easily beat the MusicMans and Suhrs and cost 1100 euros new at the time! Then in 2014 i came across a cheap used BLADE Texas Classic and was blown away. It was good, it could easily compete with the ESPs, yes it plays in the same league as ESP and cost 350 euros used. A short time later I tried a "BLADE Texas Standard Pro" with VMC midboost, similar to the "Fender Eric Clapton Signature USA-Strat", exactly the same again, it was better than any Clapton signature guitar from Fender, had better swingable woods, a flattened neck-body transition (like the BLADE Texas Classic) and therefore much better playability than Fender! So I use a lot of good Strats at home and all of them are better than what I could buy as a Fender in Germany at completely overpriced prices! That's why I prefer to play Strats, but the main thing is that it never says Fender on it, but rather ESP-S-400-Series, ESP Vintage Plus, BLADE Texas Classic or BLADE Texas Standard Pro! Well, I can prove not only purely subjectively, but very objectively in terms of sound, that there are much better things than Fender, in some cases also much cheaper and easier to play! Why should I even buy a Fender, a guitar that is worse in terms of sound and workmanship and less playable at a completely overpriced price???? Why, can someone explain this to me??????

[@phenixreturns]

take off your glove lol !

[@j.ramsey8863]

I went ultra.

[@SandeepTuladhar]

Pro 2 sounds way better.

[@sooparticular]

easily

[@TheLukejitsu]

Are you saying that as a pro II owner? :) Seriously though, Can you timestamp or outline where it sounds better? I have played both and they sound almost indentical, the difference between these two is the neck and ergonomics and noise reduction. Please state your case, as many people will come in here trying to make a decision and just saying something "sounds way better" without qualification is not helpful dude.

[@brent3086]

It does but that may just be because of the noiselss lickups. I bet that ultra is a little easier to play

[@sooparticular]

@@brent3086 just played both a week ago...the ultra sounded awful....pro was more stratty and had a better neck!

[@fritzherrmann762]

Look man all guitars are hit or miss.

[@brianwhite3771]

Have both, but prefer the pro2 pickups. Great necks on both

[@sosugarplumfairy]

Sounds too bright! Bad audio recording.

[@fritzherrmann762]

Fender have a way of grifting you into thinking....the one you bought just isn't as good as...blah

[@xsamitt]

There is no Mojo here folks......Not blaming the player.....but where it's the amps and or guitars it's a bust!!!

[@pavelku5771]

У американца звукосниматели близко к струнам, а у мексиканца далеко

[@sherikmusic]

Здесь оба американца

[@JYahirAGalvez]

ultra sounds cheap =S ...

[@archive_video_surveillance]

Freak🤬

[@musikus7092]

Both don't sound good

[@sooparticular]

whats your fav strat?? the new pro is not that bad!

[@jimmyjimmy951]

What’s your idea of good?

[@musikus7092]

@Luke I'm a "Strat-person" for over 30 years! For me the pickups in this 2 models are the issue. I think the build quality is okay but Fender has become too expensive. These two models cost about 1800-2000 Euro in Europe. That's too much for such simple guitars. The mexican models are expensive, too nowadays. If I had to chose a Fender maybe I would pick an American Original. They sound like a Strat should sound

[@keesketsers5866]

@@musikus7092 ? Mexican expensive in Europe? The player is 600 euro's. It's shit, but not expensive. I know, I own one....soon to be replaced by a Pro 2, Ultra, Suhr or Silver Sky.

[@musikus7092]

@@keesketsers5866 I think 600 Euro for a shit guitar is expensive. By the way, I meant the Vintera series. They cost 900-1000 Euro