Fender Solved the BIGGEST Problem with Modeling with the Tone Master Fr12

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[@joeygentile7829]

The Tone Master FR12 is the real deal. I gigged it for the first time Wednesday night with my Quad Cortex, and I felt like I was playing an amp again.

[@dannybrickwell]

Oh my god my heart warmed so deeply when your little kiddo appeared on screen, and outright melted when you let 'em just fiddle around with your guitar while you were playing. You seem like such a good dude and loving father. I was about to comment about my appreciation for the follow-up video after your last one on the FR12, but it seems so unimportant now. Love your work and your vibes, will be joining your patreon as soon as my budget allows for it.

[@ggkohler]

Well said, Danny. Johnathan pegged my respect meter with that display of love to his precious daughter!

[@jonswoveland]

That was just the sweetest thing ever!

[@foxmeisteruk]

I'm only a home player, but my experience with the FR-12 is very similar, and the hiss really isn't an issue.

[@BlugubriousMusic]

Her volume swells and tremolo bar was exceptional... she's hired.

[@msi1985]

I've been using the Fr12 since October 28th. The response this cab gives along with the output adjustments you can make on the fly + the high cut makes it near perfect. My only gripe is the small hiss sound that emmenates from the 1 inch driver, high cut removed most of the noise, and you can easily add that freq back in on the global EQ. There is a hardware fix for this issue, as discussed on the fractal forums, but I'm not certain it's enough of a problem to warrant me chasing down that fix any time soon.

[@davidyelland908]

I find a lot of users don’t fully undestand how to use the Powercab (how unlike a guitarist to not read the manual). I use mine with a Helix Floor with output set to +9dB set to FLAT. I then back of the high on the Powercab globals by -3dB. Matches the sound of the Bose PA fine. Some people don’t realise that any of the other setting are the speaker without mic through the cab and so won’t sound the same as the same cab on the Helix itself. The real bonus though is when you use the AES connection. I can feel the immediacy of touch with one less ADA conversion. On a side note there is gap in the market for an instrument to balanced line level DI box for plugging into FRFRs

[@peterworam9376]

I have the same setup. I'm a long time Line 6 user (Flextone XL, Vetta, Helix/PowerCab112+, Variax 300, 700 & standard) and love their stuff, but they over engineer things. K.I.S.S. goes a long way. You're setting the PowerCab option in the Helix to FLAT and +9dB? As far as I can recall, you only get 6 dB of gain with the Helix PowerCab settings. I've also found the PowerCab speaker options all color the XLR pass through to FOH. I'm thinking of selling my PowerCab for the FR12; I like the fact that you can pass through the amp/cab settings on the Helix to FOH and and still get a good AIR feel. I think the PowerCab is a great piece of gear, but I can't figure out how to do that. I can get a good FOH sound, or a passable AIR sound, but can't seem to be able to do both using the power link. Maybe I'm missing something.

[@davidyelland908]

@@peterworam9376The Helix Floor set to +9db not the Powercab. BTW the PC will go to +12db. The flat setting is the only PC setting that doesn’t add a mic to its xlr out.

[@peterworam9376]

@@davidyelland908 That's the problem. You end up having to run a separate line from the Helix for FOH. The powercab doesn't have an option to pass thru the XLR/L6Link input to FOH when using the LF Flat/Raw/Speaker modes for AIR response. It's one or the other. Also, having to dime the Helix output for the Powercab causes problems with anything going to FOH. That was one of my initial beefs with the Helix/PC combo - the Helix PC level setting needs more than +6db to get the PC input in the operational sweet spot.

[@davidyelland908]

@@peterworam9376 Surely Flat is meant to simply amplify what you put in and not to attempt amp in the room? The XLR out is active for all settings too. BTW the Helix Floor XLR outputs are at +12db max. I run mine like that with the volume control set to 1/4 only so it can't accidentally affect my FOH level. I am just checking levels into my DAW. With the input gains set identically and using line inputs, the digital out on the Helix Floor needs to be set to +12db to match the XLR outputs. I think the idea of the amp in the room only really works as intended with Line 6 cabs. Idea being pick the same cab as you were using in the floor unit for the PC. You must then turn off the cab in the HF. The PC then models the speaker as AIR but adds whatever mic you chose to the DI.......but not in Flat/Natural. Unfortunately now that the cab engine in the HF has been updated, we will have to wait and see if the PC gets the same as at the moment you can't move the mic position across the speaker. Don't you just love it when only part of a system gets upgraded. Lastly the sweet spot only actually matters for the models and not the Flat. BTW I feed the PA direct from the HF as I often have to play on a silent stage.

[@willschut4917]

GRG AT G210 ST man myself. Nearfield monitor sounds translate very, very well to this active FRFR cab. And made of Carbon Fibre, so it’s a spine saver as well.

[@robchrystal]

Nice follow up review John . I’m sure others will say the same but if you are used to playing through amps the noise floor hiss is always there. If youve been brought up with Multifx and modellers through a set of monitors you will notice it. I’ve not tried this monitor yet but having played amps all my life , l know it won’t be an issue and suspect it will probably make the overall experience more amp like

[@dmac3316]

Cool. I agree with what you’re saying. First FRFR I found that really was amp like and easy to use. I’ve tried them with the Tonemaster Pro, HX Stomp, Pod Go and it handled them all well.

[@R0BL68]

Great video ! Very informative. Albeit I would add the other biggest issue with modelers is the inability to easily set the volumes to all presets to the same level. If only there was a way to have a master and “easily” set all patches to hit at the same level. Now THAT would be a game changer. Don’t get me wrong…I’m not saying it can’t be done….just not easily.

[@scottbullard3479]

The Headrush units have an output level meter that greatly helps you balance output levels between rigs. I have the original Pedalboard and have all my rigs balanced, you just need to do some tweaks to accommodate perceived volume differences with clean and overdriven settings.

[@R0BL68]

@@scottbullard3479 That is awesome ! I’d have to give that some serious consideration

[@johnscarratt7783]

Hi John, I use a Celestion FRLR Triple Cone Speaker F12M-150 in a 1 x 12 closed back cab with an Orange Pedal Baby Amp and Line 6 HX Stomp. This combination is the best I've had for an FRFR set up. But I'm tempted to try the new Fender and compare the two rigs with my HX Stomp. Regards, John

[@dpajc056]

I like having a linear power amp like SLA-1 and I hook it to my Marshall 2x12 (or any other cab you want) and works great with modelers. It's a great solution, you're not stuck to a particular cab or a modeller

[@Annunaki_0517]

I play my Helix through the effects loop of my Line 6 DT50 212, and it sounds great to my ears. No need for a FRFR, except for the weight, which is punishing.

[@ggkohler]

Beautiful interaction with your daughter there! I have a request for content: I've never played through a modeler, nor used digital recording setup like yours. Would you please, at some point run through your recording setup and process of building your backing tracks? Many thanks for all you do Johnathan. You are my go-to source for good content, and I Will be joining as able.

[@duanetribune4441]

I tried one out at GC here in the states, they had a Helix connected to it & it sounded great to me. They only had a demo in the store that they would not sell so I scored one at Sweetwater, rather buy it there anyways & get the free 2 yr warranty. Also got a cover for it for additional $25 bucks. I think the price point is right, sounds & feels like an amp in the room which I was truly missing, It's lighter that the FRFR powered monitor I was using. Can't wait to use it at the next gig. Thanks for the great demo/review you did, your opinion help sell me on it.

[@alexeydubrov8923]

Got my Fr10 and yep it definitely has a hiss and everything as you described (reducing when you turn cut). But if I didn't read about it online - I would probably even didn't notice it. Overall it sounds impressive, really enjoyable. Personally use tube preamps and Torpedo Cab M. Sounds for me like a real thing.

[@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender]

are you glad you got the 10 over the 12?

[@alexeydubrov8923]

@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender I bought it not for the gigs, but for playing in room. Don't think they sound much different. I glad that I can set it quite enough without loosing in sound.

[@canopy-guitarsgear5615]

@@alexeydubrov8923now that makes me curious ❤

[@rinkydinky-ob9pe]

im glad you said there was a definite hiss, ive heard this on a few sites, id rather spend a few quidditch more on something better, fender dont seem to make anything that doesnt have a hiss in my experience

[@alexeydubrov8923]

@@rinkydinky-ob9pe yes there is a hiss if it directed straight to your ear. Otherwise it not recognisable.

[@Widdy5150]

I work at Bonners Music and tried this cab with my helix!! Sounds great to my ears 👍🏼

[@gotguitar]

Please say hello (from California) to Myke for me. 😀

[@Widdy5150]

@gotguitar Haha, yes I will 👍🏼

[@pineapple8407]

This is a great topic. Would love comparison by John of the Catalyst 100 and this because I’ve had the catalyst on my radar since it was introduced. Now with the inclusion of catalyst amps in v3.70 this might be a really good option.

[@dkhsnyder]

I have the Catalyst 60. Not a great FRFR. Standalone it is a great amp for the money. I have found the Katana 100 sounds much better as a FRFR. I've had the line 6 power cab and an alto 10 inch cab.

[@boshi9]

@@dkhsnyder Do you prefer Katana 100 for FRFR over the Power Cab and the Alto as well?

[@robschaller9061]

@@boshi9 I didnt care for the Catalyst and bought the Katana. I use it as my practice amp and if I go out to an open jam. If Im playing a gig, its the Marshall with my vintage 4 x 10

[@deanopie4390]

I really seriously can’t understand why more FRFR like this have taken so long to hit the market. I’m waiting for a stereo 2x12

[@deanopie4390]

@@user-hc2rz6vs8h damn!

[@gdawgs101]

​@@user-hc2rz6vs8hPowercab also just doesn't sound as good as this one tho. I've spent time with both and the Fende took almost zero tweaking to sound good. The Powercab can sound really good, but it takes some time to get there in my experience. Just pick up two FR12s/FR10s and call it a day

[@ChuckTheHamster]

Try the Harley Benton 2x12 FRFR 👍

[@johnlong5003]

Think youve talked me into this. Looks like a real fender amp too!

[@wizdeas6064]

How lovely to see the youngest member of the family joining in!

[@derrickmickle5491]

Little Elodie's cameo was best part of the performance! How adorable!

[@joehenry9787]

Thank God the wee sound lady stepped in to help you with your tone there. She's a bit on the short side tho. ❤

[@mikej6565]

The hiss is easily solved by swapping IC5 and IC8 from TL084 to OPA4227PA. $25 in parts and it's quiet as a mouse.

[@mikej6565]

@crew66 Not sure your level of soldering experience, but it is quite simple. Buy the OPA4227PA from Mouser (too many other counterfeit ones sold elsewhere). Then you have to desolder the old ones. I use a Hakko FR301 desoldering gun. You could save money by using a desoldering sucker/pump for about $15. (Then you can either put a socket in so you can drop in the new opamp, or you can solder the new opamp in and leave it for life (that's what I did). Great upgrade! So quiet I forgot it was on!

[@JimmyD718]

It sounds great! The baby is adorable. God Bless 🙏

[@nmv881]

I really wish there was 2x12 stereo version. I love my stereo delays and dual amps. Guess I’ll have to get two…

[@synonyx]

I'd imagine they should have a twin 2x12 coming up - Hopefully in tweed to look like a real fender twin.

[@nmv881]

@@synonyx 🤞🏻

[@therealone1288]

thanks. i think i'm going to get one. tired of playing through headphones and monitor speakers. just want something in the corner like a real amp and looks like this is the best option

[@michielroom]

I have the Harley Benton G112A-FR, which is much cheaper. It only has 100 W in stead of 1000 for Fender, but it's less than half the price, and it gives me a real guitar amp feeling.

[@brucehayes7251]

I have a slight wariness of 1000 watts being available,the 100 watt Harley Benton might be closer to the truth

[@ILuvJazzNJava]

Haven’t tried the Fender, but the Tech 21 Power Engine Deuce Deluxe is the best implementation of the FRFR cab concept I have tried and the price is reasonable too. Try one if you can find one.

[@tarotguitar]

It would be nice to hear your thoughts on the Laney LFR 112…

[@mathiasbruce6582]

Definitely! I have one and like it, but it's always interesting to get professional opinions with greater frames of reference. If the Fender one is even better, I'll trade up.

[@juankmarte4046]

Have you gigged with it? Im curious about how much it handles playing with drummers​@@mathiasbruce6582

[@paulrhodesquinn]

What a player! Awesome tone, technique and feel. I’ve gigged with Charlie Allen a fair bit and to me you have the same fluency and imaginative approach to playing.

[@jonathanwapner6262]

People who complain about the "hiss" have probably never used real amps to begin with.

[@10CentHead]

Nowhere as loud as a JC-120 (the hiss)

[@JazzRockswithAdam]

You’re probably bang on there.

[@bluesman815]

I had to laugh because you're probably right. I've owned the FR-10 for a couple months now and I had no idea about any hiss until I seen the posts online. Lol I don't hear a hiss. I've played through tube amps most of the 40+ years I've been playing guitar and they can get plenty noisy. The FR-10 is by far the most quiet amp I've played through. I can't hear any hiss.

[@fabianvasquezjr8852]

Lil guy messing with your tone knob lol! They figure out we're the volume knobs are pretty quick!

[@DevilsAvocado69]

You are actually wrong it was a fault, some guy on a forum found it and fender ship the new ones with the fix.

[@barnshart9662]

If im not mistaken. Most people reporting a "hiss" were also using the Fender Tonemaster floor unit, and it's an issue with the AUX setting being enabled by default, once disabled it fixed it.

[@reynard.fox101]

No I’ve got a QC and it’s the same. With or without anything plugged in

[@bluesman815]

I have the FR-10 and I don't hear any hiss. I run a tonemaster pro and a Strymon Iridium and both sound great. Maybe it's my old ass hearing. I've seen videos on KZbin where there's definitely an audible hiss without anything plugged into them, as well. Mine sounds amazing.

[@ReinoRankaisija]

Super interested in the Laney but I hear it might not be loud enough for a heavy rock band. Delighted to hear the Fender is good. Should be louder and it's way lighter with less features. And NO LEDS, lol. Seems perfect

[@JohnsDough1918]

John Nathan Cordy's ASMR debut.

[@MichaelLeDu]

Isn’t this basically what a Line6 Powercab+ does? If you don’t use the helix speaker cab model but instead use the powercab’s speaker models (speaker, not cab) it sounds like a real amp and not a mic’d cab.

[@TLMuse]

I'd love to hear how the FR-12 (or FR-10) works with amplified acoustic guitar. -Tom

[@dougvennard2677]

You do great work John. I have a couple questions - first, have you tried recording directly through the XLR output to see if / how it colors the signal? And I can't seem to find any info online as to whether the output is just a *through* of the raw signal from the modeler that remains unchanged regardless of any changes made to the tone and volume knobs, or if it reflects the changes to the knobs. Also wondering if you've tried the Boss GX-100 through it yet (the poor Boss doesn't get enough love, and it seems to me to be the best bang for the buck in that range)

[@brianlebrun2382]

I've got about 15 gigs in mine with 3 full band rehearsals and it's better than anything else that I've owned plus the looks don't hurt either. As far as the hiss goes, if I put my ear about 6 inches away I can hear it otherwise it's totally silent in fact had I not read about it in a complaint I wouldn't have known it existed. The hum from the power section of my tube amps is louder so it's a non issue. I tend to run my presets a bit hotter and that might be because of the other FRFRs that I have so gig level has me running the master on the Fender around 4 and I use it as a traditional amp. Any higher and it's too loud. Great video, thanks John.

[@fkcamry88]

The hiss is on the first batch. Fender rectified the issue on the latest cabs.

[@brammanck]

Yes! Using it with the hotone stomp ii and it sounds remarkable. What a joy to play with this combination

[@JurajHalaska]

Please compare this to Laney LFR-112

[@synonyx]

Sold my Powercab 112+ after playing my FR12 - It is the BEST sounding FRFR cab to me so far. Really amp in the room feels.

[@fabianvasquezjr8852]

I'm trying to figure out which one to get line 6 or the fender?

[@synonyx]

@@fabianvasquezjr8852 get the Fender. It sounds better in the room than the powercab.

[@jasonisley6259]

Exactly what I’m looking for! Thanks for the great video! Love your channel!!

[@bleigh6562]

How many more people would watch if you added puppies with the baby? Fantastic opening tune.....

[@djangofett4879]

yeah, i keep babies in my studio too. its great for sound dampening. put a few babies in each corner and it makes a good bass trap.

[@antondiatonikk2256]

That intro track was top notch, I want to be able to listen to it on demand! Any chance of putting a full length on spotify?

[@mrbwoll]

Man, I love my EV PXM12-MP but this thing looks so much better. Wish i could try one out with my quad cortex but the hiss could be a dealbreaker depending on how bad it is.

[@craigclarke7297]

Sounds good but noise floor disconcerting, Would be interested in a review of the Seymour Duncan Powerstage 100 Stereo with a couple of Celestion F12M-150 Triple Cones.

[@Hubi194]

Back in the day Rols-Royce released a Ghost model, that was so silent inside, they had to add a spraker to pretend a normal, car noise. Because people didn't feel comfortable inside. Same story with Fender. People complaint that modelers, and profilers, connected to FRFR speakers sound artificial. So they added some hiss, to make it feel more like a real amp 😉

[@markerf16]

Thing is- I hate the TM regular amps. I had the twin and didn't think it sound like a fender at all. No richness - no headroom and no feel. I am considering the Fr12 to use with my Nux MX30 or the Tonex - and also use it with my Zoom ac3 acoustic creator.

[@tims001]

What a beautiful little baby!! So cute 🥰

[@Chikolad]

What an adorable intro! 😍

[@davetube2ful]

Thanks, John, for giving us your thoughts on this amp, I've been waiting to hear more about this amp. it will be great to hear your thoughts after you gig with it.

[@89digits59]

Hum and Hiss is owned by Fender 😆😆🤣🤣 - sounds great by the way 👍👍👍👍

[@michaeldibenedetto1177]

Love the whisper...! This hiss thing is silly...!

[@andrewfink8361]

1975 vibes on that opening track, brother! Sounds great!

[@seanbeck6232]

I love that BRIGHT clean tone at the top. “1975”ish. What is that please????

[@kmjansen]

Cutest intro you’ve ever done 👶

[@ensignbarabus]

I'm waiting for the stereo FR212

[@TheCyberMantis]

Just buy two FR12's.

[@picksalot1]

Ya know, your daughter is going to be absolutely brilliant. 😎

[@ksharpe10]

Elodie Peeking in, so cute. A great Backing track here JOHN.

[@charleswright8142]

I tried the F 12 on a gig and I did not like it. I was running a Tonex and a BOSS IR200 thru it. Sounded good at home but didn't cut through the mix live. I had to keep turning it up. A 1000 watts? Really? I ended up returning it. So far for me the BOSS GT-1000 Core is the best gigging pedal I've used. It sounds good through everything I run it thru. I am curious about the Fractal FM3 though.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

A loud amp that hisses? Good lord, what a tragedy.

[@dr7246]

Quilter Tone Block, in FRFR mode, solved this a while back

[@bruhskifrfrnocapbussinmate]

frfr no cap that sounds pretty good

[@piotrekkoszalka]

Tekst tłumaczenia I play a lot of good tube amplifiers, all handmade PTPs and Plexi type amplifier and the Trainwreck type amplifier as I turn them almost to the maximum, there is no noise/hiss like in this presented device... if someone wanted to record on it, it will be unfortunately audible

[@harmonicseries6582]

That hiss is because they used a class D at that price range, not a big deal IMO but class AB would have made this perfect (and probably a bit more expensive)

[@TheFloHo]

Is this FR-12 to be used as a FRFR-Speaker, so that you use on the modeler the Amp Model plus a Cabinet/IR? Or is it supposed to get only the amp Model and the FR12 itself works as a cabinet? Thanks 🤗

[@TomandTheBrokenHearts]

A future star at your feet!

[@gibsoneb3]

Tube amps are heavy, and I’m always waiting for failure. I’ve been lucky but I have some UAFX sims and I am into them. And did I mention tube amp load out?

[@ridiculouswonk2135]

John, we’re going to need a gig report on this. If it replaces your current setup of tube amp and cab, then it’s legit.

[@NateTheMeh]

@@user-hc2rz6vs8hI think he regularly uses the helix, but also has specifically taken a tube Rig out in the last few months to see if he was missing out in anything. Hard to tell what the consensus is

[@yjm100playloud]

I hope fender will fix this problem

[@armoredsaint6639]

I’m a stereo kind of person….I want two! I had the mission 2x12 and was not really happy …loud but too much flat mid range…just missing something

[@SoyAlberto127]

That intro made me want to have a baby, so cute!

[@MyBestNameHere]

Loved the baby whammies!

[@joshpetermann]

Would love to see you try out the new Spark Cab from Positive Grid and compare!

[@user-f9g4o]

Cool video John! Tell me, do you really still use your boss katana? I doubt the choice of amplifier, I would like to buy it and never change it when playing at home on the couch. What would you take? Thank you, your videos are inspiring!

[@BillySoundFarm]

If Fender was smart they would make a way to connect this to their tonemaster pro digitally to eliminate a DAD conversion and reduce latency... They also would put a feature in all of their tone master amps that it could double as a limited version of this thing.

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@dividedbytimestudios what?!? I didn't know about that what are you talking about?

[@dividedbytimestudios]

@@BillySoundFarm Line 6 puts a “link” port on the back of Helix to connect to Line 6 power cab

[@scottlowe8657]

But the cab is analogue, so you'd still need to convert at the cab. You'd just be moving the conversion from the modeller to the cab.

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@scottlowe8657 yea wow I just looked it up, it's analog. That's a simpler way to eliminate the conversion. Good for them!

[@Herfinnur]

Just curious: what speaker is in it, and how much of the great sound is because of that? Asking because I'm wondering whether it can be bought separately

[@TLMuse]

With all the attention Elodie was giving to the trem bar, maybe her middle name(s) should be "Jeff Beck" (maybe "Steve Vai" if she goes a bit crazy with it when she gets stronger). -Tom

[@MRxr400]

normal hiss of a power amp and speaker to me.

[@AnthonyBencomo]

Yeah his is normal, but I’ve heard others, and my two new ones have a bad high pitched hiss. They are not created the same.

[@martoneill]

Great to hear there is a good frfr (for not crazy money) out there. I’m assuming that for at home use you’ll still just stick to the studio monitors? Ie, this a solution just for when you’re out and about?

[@jimyoung9262]

The irony that we've gone back to amps in the modeling journey.

[@chadr2843]

Awesome review. Really enjoy your playing. Do you any albums out?

[@GuitaristGuyJames]

Two of those in stereo would be immense!

[@jcradical2520]

If it sounds good in studio monitors, but sounds bad in an 'FRFR", then the that speaker isn't an FRFR even if it's marketed as one. The powercab definitely isn't actually FRFR.

[@johncook9261]

Great video. And that tone and phrasing on the outro solo was just phenomenal.

[@CinemaKev24]

Why aren't more people building their own power cabs? I made a 2x10 with a built in 1U power amp. Light, loud and stereo.

[@canopy-guitarsgear5615]

Its amazing how, given that many prominent youtubers have mentioned this time and again that, FRFR cabs which look like guitar cabs are not more of a thing. Especially taking into account how much things have moved in that direction. My wish is someone would do it in the THR/Spark40 style desktop form factor. fwiw I have two stomps. I use one with a spark running a "flat" preset. That's what I play with most. The other is permanently hooked up to a PC and used with studio monitors.

[@angrygoldfish]

Maybe the design of them at a reasonable price has been hard for manufacturers to get together. Like you I would have thought Fender would have had loads of competition by now, but they don't. So few companies are tapping into this market. I ended up using my old heavy tube amp and disabled my IR's in the global settings because I couldn't find a solution I liked. It's only now that I can see myself buying something.

[@canopy-guitarsgear5615]

@@angrygoldfish I can see that obviously a small FRFR isn’t as useful with no models and I’m told the THR does have a flat mode. My mate with one also gigs with a 100w mustang using the studio preset with a stomp. I’ve also found that ‘flat’ for FRFR isn’t as straightforward as it seems which I’m assuming is why there’s so much variance with cabs

[@alexandergrunewald8752]

RCF ST 12 SMA ll is good. I use it without high and lowcut.

[@AlexVonCrank]

John can you get greasy feedback with it? Nice controlled feedback.

[@gotguitar]

Hi! Great video mate. Will the backing track eventually be available on your Patreon?

[@smokingtarheel3003]

Sounds awesome. I just like Fender, period! Come to the US and tour! I love your expressive playing.

[@scottwilliams3608]

Hi - picked one up (largely on your recommendation) - using with Helix - and sounds great at home...gigs coming up. Do you still use the helix cabs when using this? (they seem to work fine so far, but wondered what's best for live). I did not notice any hiss at all. Also, at gig, did you run the helix direct to PA or did you use the FR12 out to PA? any sense of what works best? Thanks!

[@LanceGutzman]

Future guitarist debut at 1:05 :)

[@MelbourneGuitarGuy]

Are you keeping the impulse response/cab sim on in your preset and going to the FR12 or disabling it? I am keen to get one with my Quad Cortex but unsure if i should leave the CabSim on or off

[@lenni-hazels]

Don't know if still relevant but usually, especially if it's not clean but overdriven/distorted, with a cab IR it should sound good and not harsh.

[@silvergriz]

I think a lot of the hiss complaints come from a younger generation of guitar players who cut there teeth on modelers and plugins. That hiss is a welcomed relief compared to alot of amps.

[@AnthonyBencomo]

If it’s the hiss from The this dudes video.. yeah that’s bearable. But our hiss is a lot louder and a higher frequency.

[@joeltunnah]

Amps shouldn't hiss, it's bad design.

[@dpepke]

Dont know if you mention the weight, but as far as I can see, it is more than 1 kg heavier than the Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb, for example. Still lighter than a tube amp, but I would have hoped for a lower weight (8-9 kgs ish) I'm guessing it's not a dealbreaker for you, but it might be for older guys? How do you find the weight and size - easy to throw in the car?

[@DrRussPhd]

Mission has already done this . . .