Fender Squier Stratosonic VS Gibson SG Jr

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[@eddiejr540]

The Squire checks 2 boxes for me…22 frets and most importantly, the volume knob is out of the way…love it👍

[@44scoots]

The SQUIER is worth looking at, a nice piece.

[@skye7690]

Also you’ve got the inline headstock, way better than Gibson’s, and the cool series/ phase buttons too.

[@smokingtarheel3003]

I absolutely love that Squier and your pickups are very dynamic and the cleans are marvelous and articulate too!

[@RuXTaR]

A simple request. When doing comparisons, can you please play the same thing and do short segments. So play segment A on original pickups and in the edit do same segment with new pickups. Then play something else and back and forth. Love your videos! Keep up the wonderful work!

[@brucifer0]

I just built a parts caster based on a Gibson LP Junior. I found a double cut tele body with a single p90 rout on reverb. I added two switches one to bypass the the volume and tone pots and one to toggle between different tone capacitors it's rips! Although I found out Tele enthusiasts absolutely hate DC teles lol. I personally love it. I wanted something different but classic looking. It became my #1 Overnight.

[@flybybaby8008]

Finally, a comment that keeps things both real and in perspective! THANK YOU!

[@sunburstshredder]

I want that Squier now! I told myself I wasn't going to buy another guitar, but deep down I knew that was a lie...

[@calvinevans6347]

It's always a lie. I do it, too!!! I just got a Fender Nebula Noir. I lied prior to this saying that the PRS SE custom 24 was my last guitar. Lol!!! FYI, my wife is still with me!!! I really love her.😢

[@nickfromnebraska]

The SG is much brighter than the other two...

[@jimmygrant3151]

Man, that Squire is something else. What a nice guitar.

[@weedywet]

The SG killed the other two. It just sounds the most alive.

[@taurektaurek6213]

According to the Fender/Squier web page, the pickups are no P90s, but "Alnico Soapbar Single coils".. Is that due to brand/license issues, or are the pickups physically different from P90s?

[@DylanTalksTone]

They are P90s

[@senacht]

I’m a big P90 fan. With a P90 you can avoid the need for an overdrive pedal since you can control the degree of breakup by how hard you play. That Squier would make an excellent companion for my Yamaha RevStar RSS02T.

[@Anjohl]

I find P90's can be hard to rein in sometimes.

[@andrew6889-p5c]

Thanks for these careful videos. Really like your work. But, not to be annoying, these tone comparisons are not done in the “best way”. Tone differences are almost always really subtle. So there is no point playing a long piece then doing it again on different setup. Far better to splice your video together with many very short back-and-forth comparisons. Just a single identical chord, or a single lick is enough. Then repeat. I also appreciate that you then gave your personal impression of the difference too. Even if I disagree, it’s a useful data point to have. I also understand that KZbin messes with sound so much that your impression might be far more accurate than what I hear. Anyway, thanks so so much. It’s annoying of me to criticize when you are doing these with a lot of skill and care.

[@bretolson8484]

Thanks so much for this. I’m agonizing about the Beato DC being outta reach and looking for a bargain to give my first P90 experience. Then comes this. I LOVE Fender & Squier. The key here for me is that distance relationship between bridge/pickup. You are seriously helping my decision process as I can NOT bring myself anymore to shop a big box store for comparison (horrible service) so this is great info to narrow my focus before I order. Love your channel! 😎

[@tylerbrooks3998]

Check out an Eastman SB55. I got the double cut version and it is amazing. Its the most resonate guitar I own (Gibson CS R0, Suhr Pete Thorn Signature, Fender American Ultra Strat, etc.) Build quality is on par with Gibson custom shop, much better than a Gibson USA production guitar.

[@bretolson8484]

@@tylerbrooks3998 thanks for the recommendation. This is well beyond my budget, unfortunately.

[@ralphgilbert3579]

Thanks for the video Dylan! I really appreciate your comparison of the guitars. There is something about the Squire I really like. Would love to have one in yellow with your pickups. I'd probably change the pots to better ones and prefer locking tuners. That would be an awesome guitar like no others I have.

[@FuriousMess]

you seem as taken by this Squier model as I am Dylan. With over 40 guitars I'm seriously considering one of these

[@segueoyuri]

"I bet there are people worried about the headstock" The only worries I have when I see someone playing a Gibson LP Jr is the neck joint and if they are using a right angle cable lol

[@dlewtweentorla1210]

Surprised you didn't change the pots and switch during the pickup swap. Would be intersting to hear the difference between the guitars with all electrics being equal. Those are some sweet P90's you've developed, I'd be swapping those pots to get the best out of them. Got to admit, wasn't a huge fan of that squire when it was launched, the stock pics did it no favours. Seeing it in this video, looks much better, after hearing your opinion and listening to its tones.... has peaked some interest. Thanks!

[@polyphonicgroove]

Your title says, "Supersonic" but it's a "Strato-Sonic. I think they all sounded great, but I was surprised how well the Squier held up. I think the Strato-Sonic sounds more like the Yellow Jr. than the SG.

[@tonkageorge]

I liked them all. Your pickups sound great in all three. Nice!

[@pyratoothNL]

WIth gain there's not a huge difference to my ears. They all sound good. But the GIbson SG seems to have a harder attack than the other two.

[@DDE_ADDICT]

Dylan is a very straight head honest guy

[@3J_Music]

Love that SG junior

[@ezcondition]

the Squier sounds fuller with the replacement than the other two. that thing is on my list.

[@mburtondavis]

Never soldered anything before but I might have to get a stratosonic and place an order for your p90s and give it a go.

[@haveagoodone5830]

Interesting. I do like the Squier stock, I like it with Dylan's pickups, and out of the 3 guitars I like the yellow Dylan Special the most

[@charlesharper7292]

The 3° neck angle is a helpful bit of information. I am building a Frankenstein using an Explorer style body from Hondo. And am planning on a wraparound bridge. My Strat o Sonic should be here Monday!

[@MikeHuculak]

Thanks, saw a review of the Supersonic on Guitaristas and thought of you for info on the P90 upgrade. Will be ordering once I order the guitar.

[@DylanTalksTone]

Glad to help!

[@mirkojovanovic3216]

great video.your pickups have life in them.

[@bonedale]

That SG tone

[@d.wilson1402]

That SG has total mojo on every video I have heard it on.

[@slaytanic777]

Man!! Your neck pickup is like butter!! Love it

[@EasyHeat]

I seriously miss owning P90 guitars. So versatile! My first was an Amazon $130 (shipped) DC Junior Firefly similar to that TV yellow you played in the vid. Not ideal, but it did have a "baseball bat" style neck, and after a Grover upgrade? I couldn't put it freakin' down! My next was the Iverness Green Worn SG that Epi put out with the new Kalamazoo headstock. The freakin' QC on that guitar was absolutely atrocious! Even after upgrading the tuners to Kluson Revolution G-Mount 19:1's, and working on the frets?! I just couldn't gel with it. My third P90 guitar was a Fullerton (Aria-pro) Mosrite clone from the 90s-early 2000's That guitar was incredible IMO! Unfortunately... During Covid I was forced to liquidate a lot of gear : ( Those guitars, along with all my amps, and most of my pedals all got sold : ( This Squier tho?!! I definitely must have! LMAO! One day... It will be mine. Great demo dude! Cheers!

[@birdman316]

yep some one left a strat and a les paul alone together and now look what we got! a work of art yay yaa!! dylan id love a follow up film with some out of phase goin on if you will....thanx brother!

[@bernardfancher4247]

"So if you're not careful, you just get this huge mudball of power..." That's going to keep me smiling the rest of the day.

[@grapplewithreality]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks

[@boxerfencer]

I know you blame it on the positioning of the PU, but it's hard to believe the yellow and the SG run the same PUs. I'm surprised. The Gibson double cutaway, Les Paul jr, was it? sounded better than the SG.

[@boxerfencer]

Dylan, I don't see the issue with series taking off the highs. That's expected, as that's what happens when you wire wire single pickups in series. The alternative option is to put it into parallel mode. Problem solved. No reason to replace the pickups. Other things that can be done is to experiment with the pots.

[@FlankinspanK]

so crazy been eyeing the simplified p90 sg style for a few months now

[@norseman61]

Three super cool guitars. I must say, you make some sweet sounding (sweet, as in RAUNCHY) P90s. REALLY nice tones from those bad boys.

[@scottharringtonSR]

I would love to see what that could do with some 500k stacked pots for independent volume and tone control on each pickup and ability to blend them in the middle position. Just personal preference, if it's a LP type guitar I like to be able to blend the two in the middle position. I love my Teles and play them with the two shared pots. I got a Les Paul Special Tribute double cut with the single volume and tone knobs, figuring I would play it like a Tele but just couldn't. I found myself constantly looking for the ability to turn volume or tone up or down on a single pickup in the middle position.

[@stug5041]

Your pups sound way more bright and spanky - definitely would make a lot more use of the tone control with those bad boys!

[@PMUP2016]

Another difference is a set neck as it compares to bolt on.

[@jasonalbert9939]

I really couldn’t hear a difference with the drive on. Clean I could hear a slight difference. I just marked it up with pickup placement. You confirmed that.

[@toddpack6301]

The yellow Jr thing is dope, son. 🎉

[@larryscott2239]

Squire sounds brighter. Looking forward to seeing it in person!

[@Davo2233]

What is your opinion on gfs or slick guitars, hardware, pickups, quick plug?

[@victorluiz2099]

Definitely a lot more options and sound variations on the Squier than the Gibson. There is no point of comparison in my opinion. But the weight of the Gibson brand, however, is not just the weight of the instrument itself.

[@philippberry4900]

I need that guitar. I need all those guitars.

[@johnnyoneniner4820]

I have the Epi version Les Paul Special in TV Yellow. The body is not super comfortable. So, I am really intrigued by a more comfortable version like the Squier. I also like the switching options. I preferred your pickups to stock for sure. That said, I am considering replacing my Epi with this as a more comfortable, versatile way to scratch my P90 itch. If you want to sell yours, let me know. Lol.

[@carlsylvester425]

I'll tell you what...at times, the Fender (the way you had the amp set) had the tone reminiscent to Aerosmith's first album. This could be an axe to add to my arsenal...

[@M5guitar1]

I bought the blue version of the Stratosonic and really like it. I was thinking of replacing the P90s with your brand as you did, and possibly upgrade the pots. I'm hesitant because of a lack of a schematic. I looked in vain. Is there a wiring diagram for this?? Help!!

[@DylanTalksTone]

The pickups come with wiring directions yes

[@MitchellHudson]

Is that a 24.75” conversion neck or something else? In other words, can you replace this with another Strat neck?

[@valueofnothing2487]

This has the arm cut, which makes it nicer to play than the Epiphone. The pickups are brighter - which strat player might expect, but I prefer a fuller, more traditional p90 sound.

[@vanshankguitars]

Did you record the specs of the stock pickups? Like DCR H and C? Just curious of the nerdy stuff lol😅

[@Sean_Plays_Guitar]

Makin your boi consider a set for my JM style kit guitar. Those pups sound juicy bro 😎

[@jonathonawarnberg]

I think the Stratosonic is the best sounding - and I think it's because of the distance of the pickup from the bridge. The SG Jr. is too dark/muddy.

[@Ray-Angel]

I just traded in an Epiphone SG Classic with P90S for one of these. The Squier and Epiphone guitars are probably built in the same factory. I wonder if they have the same pickups? You'd be the man to test that.

[@Jeffy2n]

The first (Yellow) guitar sounded a bit muddier with less top end. The Gibson sounded much clearer and full range. The last on thew squire sounded better the the yellow one, and almost as good as the Gibson. Under distortion the squire and Gibson were very close. All were good and usable, just a bit different.

[@Themarijuanamechanic]

Yellow special for the win, my ears got disappointed when you went to the sg clean. After yellow clean

[@boxerfencer]

I personally don't believe a single coil guitar should have a wrap around bridge, but a standard tunomatic style bridge with a stop bar to compensate for, at least in my perception, a lack of low end, unless you mean to operate it mainly with both pickups simultaneously.

[@44scoots]

It’s low priced Squier.

[@attilathehun0]

Great Video👍👍

[@gtr1952]

First time here, the red and the P90's just sucked me in. LOL I'm 71 and I've been at this guitar thing for a long time. We started a new blues trio and, although I have 30 some electric guitars, I don't have one with P90's! With all the whoop-la over the Yamaha RevStar I bought a standard w/P90's. 1 week later, not my bag, sent it back. Hmm. I have 3 Strats and I know I like them, I even have a Squire CV 50's Tele, I kinda like that, and I like the looks of that Strat w/the P90's!! I just hope the neck isn't real thin, but I do have 5-6 Strat necks kicking around. I like the tone of your pups too, but I'll probably change pots/switches/jack/wire/caps. Did you use the stock tone cap? .022uF? Thanks much, great video!! 8) --gary

[@ScottfromBaltimore]

Your pickups sounds glassier (to me through my phone). Are they lower output?

[@DylanTalksTone]

no sir

[@johncecilia4517]

There are some other hybrids of Fender abd Gibson wouldbe cool videos to cover. Stagg Silveray models, Marauder, Edwards, Gretsch 2215 bolt on with gibson scale length,Superstrats with set neck. But so far I like this type, I think the bolton neck ahd P90 sound really different with the Gibson scale length. Great channel

[@johncecilia4517]

The bolt on seems like it makes it brighter, the bridge pickup location also

[@charlesharper7292]

The Squire sounds pretty good. The yellow one? Holy WOW, sounds so much brighter and dynamic! I really didn't expect that much difference. Played through my highly sensitive, high tech, volume adjustable telly phone... Thanks for the video.🇺🇸⚔️🍕🍺👍👍

[@PatrickGeneLeBlancHardy]

I can't wait... ✌

[@MrBlaster791]

Gibson with Dog ear p-90 clear and bright,Stratosonic sounds compress bright,500-K in the gibson dog ear p-90 are mounted on top of the body give the that Gibson tone!!!

[@jordantaylor1988]

P90 differences can be really big. Fender used awesome sounding ones for their Noventas....or at least for the Noventa Jazzmaster I have. How different are the p90s Fender uses compared to what Gibson or Epiphone use? They definitely sound different to my ears.

[@brooklynboy1000]

That red one has that Pete Townsend lo string growl. Like on Who Are You? Pete used epiphones in the early days. A coronet I think with a p90.

[@skye7690]

What brand it that yellow one

[@rondelio8562]

Liked the Squire and the yellow double cut axe! So, Dylan, how much for a pair of your 90s??

[@DylanTalksTone]

Link below

[@randrothify]

I actually preferred the Squier and the yellow double-cut to the SG Jr. because I think they had better dynamic range. This surprised me because I love the sound of SG Specials. But compared to the other two guitars it seemed to be less articulate sounding. The Squier seemed particularly airy, metallic, and Strat like when cleaned-up, even with the same pickups. I wonder if the saddle placement made the difference as Dylan said or if it’s all in my head because of the subconscious association of the Squier’s Strat body with a Strat tone.

[@J0HN01DATA]

Tv yellow, very polished round sound. Sg is very bright thin staccato sounding. stratosonic big mid tones with that punchy rock full sound. All great sounds, I almost said tone wood. wood...

[@charlesthomas6748]

Dang them err Dylan p90's is butternasty 🔥

[@copperaudio9664]

The yellow something something sounded best. Open, warm and articulate.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Not necessarily my thing, but Fender’s done a great job using the Squier line to have some fun.

[@kcsvantasticvoyages9729]

Hi Dylan love shows

[@timothypotter2137]

Doc's build sounds way cool! But they all sound good, with your P90's.

[@OneMoreGrave]

I have this guitar and the paranormal cabronita's - thinline and baritone. Imo the two best mods to make right away are gotoh sd-91 tuners, stock ones are hot trash, and a good bridge, sock are lightweight and not quality materials. I like weight and brass = tone and sustain. I went with gotoh on the tele's. Going either golden age or schaller on the strat. Tbd. It really tightens them up and makes them play and feel so much better.

[@vittoriobassi9880]

SG vs Stratosonic: - 11:32 vs 13:03

[@acidfilth2007]

"mudball of power" yes please how much

[@MrKengabe]

Our you trying get me to buy some pickups Dylan? if so its working

[@michaelmenkes8085]

So, if you want a cheap SG/LP special with a Fender C neck, buy this and throw Dylan's P90s in it. Given that this has an Epiphone wrap around bridge, I wonder if Fender bought the P90s from Epiphone too?

[@tmeyer2022]

I would also change to String Joy 10's, but otherwise it would remain stock.

[@podeeeerdelmembrillo403]

the squire i would chose 1000 times

[@mikec6733]

Anybody else feel that the NOT rosewood fingerboard is a deal breaker ??

[@kcsvantasticvoyages9729]

Already think I would keep neck pickup

[@ricklavigne4466]

I think the original pickups sounded better.

[@DylanTalksTone]

Would save you a couple hundred bucks

[@timziegler3765]

Another happy day in guitar world

[@mrcurtis73]

Are dog ear p90s the same (tone wise) as soapbar p90s?

[@DylanTalksTone]

Ours are yes

[@mrcurtis73]

How do they usually differ?

[@DylanTalksTone]

They don’t.

[@taurektaurek6213]

Oh.. and it's the Strat-O-Sonic you are playing..the Supersonic is a fifferent model

[@DylanTalksTone]

Fixed the title!!! Thank you.

[@chavoxo50]

Squire makes very cool fresh designs but they have some very cheap parts that kill the deal for me. Yes I know Squire can be modded and upgraded but I prefer an instrument that is sorted out and ready. I'll pay more for a good to go American made instrument

[@x19guy]

To be fair the squier uses soap bar “p90 style” pickups, I’m no expert

[@DylanTalksTone]

They are P90s

[@sharkair2839]

the yellow guitar is a gibson?

[@leftyo9589]

i believe its a Siltanen.

[@sharkair2839]

@@leftyo9589 thank you, i check it out. his pick up sounds great.

[@sharkair2839]

@@leftyo9589 did a search, nothing comes up.

[@44scoots]

Did you watch the video?

[@ronwilcox7716]

1:47

[@DominusMonk33]

Cuts thru more...

[@hamburger512]

Your title says Supersonic but this is a Stratosonic. Different guitars

[@DylanTalksTone]

Thank you!! Fixed.

[@captainchaos3053]

OK bring on the hate but I liked the before sound better.

[@skye7690]

Well on the Gibson neck you have two problems at least: head angle/ can break, plus the angle of the string to the nut itself is bad (not straight like fender or PRS.

[@DylanTalksTone]

The guitar works fine. It’s fantastic

[@clockwork914]

I came Bach❕😎

[@drloqutis2492]

they need to come out with 25.5 inch scale version with a single P90 and an intonatable bridge

[@michaelmenkes8085]

That would be your G&L Tribute ASAT classic

[@attrition0]

Fender Noventa Stratocaster - 2 p90s but has the 25.5 scale and intonatable bridge (bridge is hard tail and through-body)

[@donald-parker]

Title ..... this is not a "supersonic" model.

[@DylanTalksTone]

Thank you!!! Fixed

[@dbb124]

SG wins easily