Fenerbahçe - Paok 1-1 Uefa Europa League Vierinha corner

[@nikossokin66]

RESPECT IN PAOK FANS AFTER 1:01 MOGGOLIANS

[@chamaileon81]

I can't understand why people want to promote hatred. I believe that Greeks and Turks have so much more in common than any other. Of course I'm more than excited and happy that my team got to pass to the finals of Europa league and I spit my lang out when Musli scored, but I can't understand why so much hate. I've met many people from Instabul and I think that they are most polite and civilized. Couldn't this match be just a good start to get along?

[@ΣτέλιοςΠαπανικολάου-π8γ]

Not instanbul .... konstantinoupolis ---is tan bul it. Is tin polo ..... KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

[@neonknight4]

The hate and the animosity keeps on coming from one side only... the 🦃🦃🦃side.

[@neonknight4]

@@milankricci3276 since 1930 imbecile. Up until then it was Konstantiniya...

[@neonknight4]

@@milankricci3276 you imbecile... It's Istanbul Εις την Πόλη since 1930...before that it was Konstantiniya. Constantinople for the civilised world.

[@neonknight4]

@@milankricci3276 before 1930 it was Konstantiniya... Constantinople, as it was known everywhere in the civilized world.You have a lot of gaps in your "history".l First learn, then speak.

[@pks3905]

🦅🇬🇷

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I didn t say yogurt was not Turkish, but if yogurt is more important than Antikythera mechanism, Pipe organs, Diving bells, Catapult, Showers, Pulleys, Steam engine, Maps, Olympic Games, Geometry, Hippocratic Oath, Pap Smear, Greek Fire, Archimedes’ Screw, Theatre, Democracy , Trireme, Coined money,Thermometer, Shock-Absorber, Odometer, flame thrower, fire extcinction machine.... You want more?

[@200pumb]

The word is Turkish the food is Ancient Greek piktogalo Turks hen nothing original theirs they never had cheese 🧀 and milk products they just adopted and renamed the Greek Armenian Assyrian etc etc

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Concerning your DNA stuff I have some doubts, because Turk is not exactly a race.So we have: ORIENTAL ( Iacoutes, altaians, tatars from siberia, "turks" from china, kirghiz, Eusbegs, tatars from russia, baschlirz) Afghans, persia CAUCASIANS (Daghestan, kabarda, tatars) IRANIANS ( aderbaidjani) And finally mediteranneans ( osmanlis, tauridians) Giving me a DNA lineage is a little bit.... confusing.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated No, i hate blind fanatism. How can someones attitude be intolerable when he is in a bus. Maybe the bus driver could say that! lol I have Turk friends, but when i give you good hospitality and you respond that way, i cannot thank you for that.

[@263michal]

Paok fans are best

[@Delta_Force2010]

Τι λες ρε πρεσπες και εσυ;

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated If we could continue this discussion later it would be nice, i have some work to do.

[@nikospaok1926]

We are back in Greece Get out From your Homes now you are safe...Running moggolian 1:03 PAOK 1926 so simple!!!!!!!!!

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Excuse me, are you denying this?

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated many people is reading here. Not only "as myself".

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Yes, exactly, you found it.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 >> Moreover, the mtDNA (female linkeage) sequence shared by four of these paternal relatives were also found in a Turkish individuals, suggesting a possible Turkic origin of these ancient specimens. (wikipedia online) Now I give wikipedia so that you can go and check yourself if you have any doubts. otherwise there are individual studies widespread confirms these also youcan find by research.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 >> the Hititians who dwelled in Anatolia long before the Greek, were the ones inevnted the alphabet. The linguistic analysis of their language revealed some Turkic laanguage charcters as well as including Turkic words. So turks did not come from anywhere, they were there. "What Turkish culture are you talking about?" Mainly, it starts with the language. Some characteristic aspects of the language is that it does not have gender concept grammatically >>>

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "architecture" You have to visit Turkish land for that, from the very early times to the lates there are so many examples for it. There is a typical Turkish architectural contribution which is called CuMBA or JUMBA, this is technically a closed balcony and also they used two different types of roofs which is quite characteristic of Turkish architecture. I do not count the Mosques in to this. >>> philosophy?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 >> According to the study, Turkish Anatolian tribes may have some ancestors who originated in an area north of Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period (3rd century BCE to the 2nd century CE), since modern Anatolian Turks appear to have some common genetic markers with the remains found at the Xiongnu period graves in Mongolia. >>

[@nikos17]

AI SIXTIR....FENERBAHCE AI SIXTIR...FENERBBAHCE...

[@Pegasos4]

PAOK

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I hope you dont insinuate that galen was turkish too.:-) as for vicenna, yes, he was persian. Tables came from egyptians. You talk about wikipedia, ok, but then you re taking sources from enjoy turkey .com... you are trying to turn black into white by deforming and exagerating and your speech bothers me because that. Are you talking about runic turkish alphabet? We had alphabets BC too, but i dont shout it to prove that i m the biggest, the stronger, the best.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Now about the history wikipedia is a little not sufficient so I will give you this so that you may further reference to it. "The Chinese records reported that the first appearance of the Turks in history was in the Keugmen Mountains, where the most ancient remains were found ..." >>>

[@west.side.hoolcore]

1-0 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 LOL, you got it all wrong ... I wasn't looking for it. I already told you about it, didn't I? So, I simply made it clear for anyone including yourself to see it as well.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "What did you write?" The first dictionary for a language is written by Turkish "Kutat ku Bilig." is that enough for you? "What about science?" What kind of science? I mentioned animal training, the first world map is drawn by Turks, theguys who invented front fly pants was a Turkish so next time you go to the bath room think about it OK? "medicine?" The first anatomy book is written by a Turk you know him as persian.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Who said yogurt was more imortant than any of those you mentioned? However yogurt is now unversally known health food with its name. Also it fits within the example range I wanted to give from minor to major. Instead of comparing the Yogurt with those that you counted, why don't you compare the first anatomy book with them, for example. Is this your level of understanding what you read? Is this the Greek way of perceiving a discussion? Apples and oranges.

[@nandodecolo4033]

Ottoman archers

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Congratulations to your ancestors about Taj Mahal, it s quite impressive. Hope you feel the same about the Greek wonders of the world. As for the love you claim,ask armenians, kurds, people from euxin pont. You can t deny genocides, or can you? You are not really known about your loving spirit.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@sampsondeeker A for culture/religion insults, you should check the comments of your friends. We were ok with you, gave good hospitality, and you tried to stab us in the back. it's a reaction, it' s normal.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I' m offended by your ways. As for anatomy, yes , we mean description. Greeks and Egyptians helped practically with dissections and descriptions. Can you give me your sources about the " first "anatomy book, when ?Even if it is true it doesnt mean Turkey went furhter concerning anatomy. It's the "Turkish culture is far more stronger and older than yours" speech that bothers me. These are your words. You give me no very sharp exemples and you do it with a laic style. Iranians did,

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 >> And it is a root to many other languages such as Japanese, Korean, Bulgarian, Finnish languages and many more. This language respresent a culture with its alphabet and moraals and values etc. "And you pretend that it s stronger and older than ours?" I am not pretending or lying, this is a fact. Historically the oldest culture in the world is Chinese culture and Turkish are known to Chinese from their beginnings, this is enough to make them older than Greek. >>>

[@Fussinated]

@KoonKon No problem grasshopper.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 what are you discussing?

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Clear as water.

[@thanasis76]

@sampsondeeker: well done my friend. Being eliminated at the extra time is just like qualifying. Don't worry. Next year will be better.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "I' m offended by your ways" I am simply responding you offending ways, so it is natural for you to offended. The works of Galen and Avicenna(you know him as persian and his real name is IBN SINA), especially The Canon of Medicine which incorporated the teachings of both, were translated into Latin, and the Canon remained the most authoritative text on anatomy in European medical education until the 16th century.(Wikipedia online)

[@Paokistafi]

PPAAAOKK !!! PPAOOKK !! gay fenerbahcefans

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I thnik that turks are an older civilisation than chinese finally.:-)

[@pavlosta7173]

you meen the mongol turks

[@Fussinated]

@chamaileon81 Cameileon, I have some Greek friends as well. However so far I have never seen one Turksih guy who were prejudiced against the Greek, while I met some Greek who even admitted that they are prejudiced against Turkish. I think Turkish here only responding to commenst of the Greek bigots.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Yes every one has contributed, and no one denies it. What i deny is PanTurkism you preach. I do not hate anyone. Going back to the start of the subject and the video, Turks had great hospitality in salonica, no one harmed them, they provoked with banners ( we are back in our land ), they wanted to put a flag of kemal on the field, and they did not get harmed. In Turkey they attacked with rocks several times, police made busses go through the city full of angry people.this is hate

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "I am sorry but i think only you Turks believe that." Believe what? "You re a mix of different cultures" Then Turk is the name of a race. "but culturally speaking you cannot pretend something like that." Why not? There is the language which brings moral concepts some can't be trasnlated completely into another language, They are shared among all those Turks. Beyond that, there are common traditions. Let me ask, whom do you call as Greek?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 and you are not?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "If you trust governments, you ll be in the wrong road for learning." I agree. Now, who assimilated who? Ottomans were dominant they should be the ones who assimilated local cultures, right? Yet you still speak Greek you still follow your traditions, if you compare this with today, regardless, you are more Americanized in 50 years, than you were Turkised in 400 years without americans living on your land. What does this tell you?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Ok Yogurt is a Turkish word and Turkish have culture of it. Now, the question, if it is invented by someone else why they didn't give a name to it in their own language? The first dictionary is self proving it is written in Turkish. The first Anatomy book in which body parts named in Turkish, self proving. The first world map is something even Erich Von Daniken claimed that its drawn by the space aliens since it can't be Turkish etc.

[@Fussinated]

@Paflos "My ancestors were believing in 12 Gods, till Greece once again played their significant role in the world and brought up Christianism." So Christianity is Greek invention not a divine religion. Nice to know. Somehow I thought that Jesus was sent to the Jews the lost ship of god.

[@KoonKon]

@Fussinated Yes sensei.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated It s like discussing with a wall.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Also, no one is denying the Greek contribution to the human civilization. However, it is you who is denying the Turkish contribution to the human civilization and you are taking pretty much all the nasty measures for it. WHY? If you don't hate Turkish, why are you so biased againts them?

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Turkish cannot be as old, only by looking that there is no TURK RACE. You come from many different part. I already told you that it s even obvious nowadays. There is "china typed" turks, caucasian type turks, european-mediterranenan types etc. I wrote ou about that. Thank you, your politness starts beeing really touching. lol

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 >> Also many minor things such as Yogurt you Greek shaemlessly try to usurp for example is part of the Turkish cuture as well as Baklava, and etc. These should answer your questions, and everything I say can be veryfied with historical evidence. for example Yogurt is a Turkish word and since Turkish also make a spirit out of milk (this is less known to the western world since the use grapes) many other diary products originate to Turks. >>>

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated At least i try not to.

[@MrTsetse44]

FORZA PAOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[@BABINUS4]

@Fussinated if you want to know how brutal turks was ,read history first and then answer to my comment.My language survived for thousand years,do you believe that turks have so strong culture to dominate to mine

[@Fussinated]

@anestis74 See, you are still talking about something other than football. Looks like it is you who are confused. On one hand you complain about I am not talking about football., on the other hand when I told you that, Greek were the first who started to talk irrelevant and if you don't want to admit that you should start talking about football. However, it seems like this is a Greek trait to talk irrelevant and make racist remarks. BTW. Where did I tell that you made a racist remark?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 I am talking about the Turkish culture, and that culture I said is bigger and deeper than the Greek culture. What would you expect? Did you think that I merely talking about Turks who live in Anatolia? Get your facts straight man, whom you can talk in Greek and be understood and understand what you are told within your language, in other than Morean Peninsula and close vicinity. There is long way from Anatolia to China you know?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Also you asked questions in disbelief that Turkish people has a culture and they contributed to human civilization. I answered by giving 3-4 examples. Yet, you responded as if I claimed that human civilization is established over Turksih culture. You counted way more things than I did. Did I respond you by saying that "Right internet is invented by the Greek also"? Better get this and make it sink into your brain, each culture has contributions to human civilization.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Turkish must not talk. In Greece they had great hospitality despite their usual provocations. In Turkey they they were throwing rocks and run, breaking 20 busses. Tehy had what theiy deserved. They tried to harm people, cowardly. I cannot have good relations with such people.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Then why do you want those not as yourself to decide about yourself? What makes you think that people whom you are referring to are objective, considering that you are not? Do you agree that truth should be decided by head count?

[@B3rko_22]

Gay Paok !!! ISTANBUL SINCE 1453 !!! KOMM ON PAROK REPLAY FENERBAHCE VS PAOK AN NOW !!!! NO WAY OUT THIS IS KADIKÖY !!!!

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "What i deny is PanTurkism you preach. I do not hate anyone." What is pan Turkism? Did I mention such a thing? Now if you are against a Pan Turkism then why do you mention the name Turk? How do you know that those who started that were not the Kurdish who carry a Turkish passaport, or the Greek who live in Turkey for that matter? No your questions were about the Turkish culture. denying the very existence of Turkish people and their culture is being brainwashed.

[@VZV2310]

🖤🤍🖤🤍

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I ask you again, does an anatomy book tells that Turkish DISCOVERED ANATOMY. If we start talking about the health of yogurt, i could tell you about healthy greek food, healthy diets , blablabla You try to make me look stupid and kindly insulting me in every single comment, does something makes you more smart or superior of other people?

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Pffff... man write what you want...

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I am sorry but i think only you Turks believe that. You re a mix of different cultures ( which is something very good) that is finally homogenic due to slow assimilation, killings ( sorry about that), islam ( which besides the misinterpretations muslims and non-muslims do is very respectable). but culturally speaking you cannot pretend something like that. Defend your country ( which i do not attack or hate as you can think) it' s normal, but you are exagerating.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Of course every culture has it s contribution to humanity, and of course i dont deny ANY other civilisation, dont put words in my mouth that i never said. The first dictionnary you re talking about is Akkadian-summerian (2400bc) Did Turkey invented anatomy, because i can write a book about turkey, doesnt mean i invented Turkey. So stop this. I didnt saw logical and meaningfull answers, just irony and a need of showing off that i do not understand.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 So, is this the ethics of the well informed, open minded, well cultured Greek? or, Is this reaction of a Greek who is brainwashed, higly biased and hateful of Turkish people?

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "Concerning your DNA stuff I have some doubts, because Turk is not exactly a race." I guess being a Turk I have to learn what Turk means from you, a Greek instead of you learning from me. Now how sound is that? After all the source of this information is not upon a reaserch made by Turkish government or etc. Don't get confused, An Anatolin Turk could understand 75-80 percent of what those other Turks are saying and vice versa. >>>

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Nonsense? LOL, the thing is youare not making any sense yourself since you are not saying anything, other than I am brainwashed. And this clearly is an ad hominem remark. I already expressed myself, if you didn't get it I will repeat it for you; You are not in the position to tell me that I am brain washed since you didn't say anything yet that proves you are not brainwashed yourself. You bring an argument if you want to discuss something.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Just for the rcord one of the 7 wonders of the world is built by Turks, namely the TAJ MAHAL, and ironically it is a monument of love, to the contrary what you guys claim about Turks being hateful war mongering people.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated You understand what you want , you make conclusions from nowhere. You are always right. You are not brainwashed. You speech is very beautyfull but you can't hide your hypocrisy, deformation of truth. A person who gives me YOGURT as a great invention of Turkey does not worth my attention. You put all of your self in here to convince people, but speak half the truth and hide many many things. I cant spend my day answering to stupidities. Now , please, stop sending me messages.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Let people judge who is talking nonsense.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@sampsondeeker What sporting victory are you talking about man? Your guys came to salonica, they provoked with racist banners, they behaved like scums, and no one did nothing to them. In Turkey your friends were threatning, throwing rocks and broke 20 busses.Do you know what PAOK fans been through in your country? But when it comes into fight, they run. How can we not be mad with your attitude? Come on...

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated Acevinnas father was from a place called baccra ( if i remember right) in persia. So all the documents are false because you decide it. No, i have not hate, and despite your arrogance and insults, i find this discussion very interesting. If i m all that you re saying, why talk with an idiot like me. You re the one insulting, i dont.

[@nikossokin66]

Ha Ha Ha ... PAOK fans sing strong and inside the heart and after fener-gay-fans sing like a baby ...lalalalalaa ...Ha Ha Ha....

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated There is a word called assimilation. In hundreds of years there is a "not exacty" melting pot that becomes a nation, a civilisation, whatever. I do not say that badly or anything. O do not have a problem about learnig something new or different, do you? If you trust governments, you ll be in the wrong road for learning. Everycountry teaches history in it s own way, presenting things the way they want to. That s the reason i read many foreign docs and stuff. Searching is healthy.

[@yooRulmaz]

@KoonKon swear at fener fans not Turks please mate

[@hannah0365]

Fenerbahçe cowards !!!

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "philosophy?" Well, with all due respect Turkish people, long time ago decided that phylosophy is nothing but just a deviation from the truth. It does not bring solution to anything other than creating a new problem since it is defacto a personal issue of someone's. He might be closer or farther to the truth but regardless phylosophy is merely a waste of time. Like Karl Marx saidit is about delusional interpretaation of the universe depending on the phylosopher.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 "Hope you feel the same about the Greek wonders of the world" Why should I feel different I don't have a mission to destroy anyone's cuture and heritage. Again, genocide issue, now when you say such things be sure that you are doing that with correct information since this is a very serious accusation. Now did you know that, Armenians rejected to establihs a comission to search for the proofs or Armenian genocide in the RUssian and Ottoman archives? >>>

[@Fussinated]

@kapokia What happened? Are your European big brothers upset you and you want to take it ou.t from the Turkish people? Greeks are the light? LOL then you should first start to enlighten yourselves instead of being the kickplate of the British and the French.

[@Fussinated]

@anestis74 Guess what go check the you tube. long before this video and long before this soccer match, Greeks fill with insulting posts wherever a video they find about Turks and Turkish. If you didnt provoke, nothing would have happened. And I can speak pretty much for everyone.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Well, apperantly you fail.

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated I mention about that because i read all of your comments where you write about these subjects/ Yes i have questions because i wont waste my time if i see it s going nowhere. So you invented the alphabet.:-) The largest group that ever lived in the world :-) What did you write? What about science, medicine, architecture, philosophy? I cant believe you re talking seriously. You must be the only ones to believe all that. Good night.

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 However ths issue is that, as I said, every culture has a contribution to human civilization. You just can't digest that Turkish might have done such a thing. You just simply can't digest the idea that things that you might be misinformed or prejudiced about Turkish people. You asked question you are given logical and meaningful answers, instead of starting to trhink that you might be wrong, you try to defend something false blindly. This is the proof that you are brainwashed

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 Then why are you talking nonsense?

[@Fussinated]

@BABINUS4 If you want to know how prejiduced you are go and leanr the history from people who lived in that region, and learn thehistory from real documnets of governments of that time. Yes Turkish culture is far more stronger and older than yours. Still, you think about this, Turkish ruled over Greek aabout 400 years. how come you still don't speak Turkish, but you speaka English? Are theonly words you learned from Turkish is Yogurt, Dolma, Baklava?

[@BROGLI3]

@Tceker 1821 hahahahaha

[@paok24partizan]

PAOK-BESIKTAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheMotogavlas84]

@Fussinated When you listen to the word philosophy, what comes first in your mind? Greeks may have not invented maths, but i think i dont have to remind you all the mathematical theories of greeks. I have not insulted you so far, but you re continually doing it, and being very arrogant as well. I didn t respond but it starts to be irritating. So good night, and the story ends here. Good night.

[@ΙωαννηςΙωαννης-β1χ]

Sorry 250000vs 5000greeks 1453

[@f7stealth]

X PORTO PLAYER

[@Fussinated]

@TheMotogavlas84 HUH? They are being thrown rocks because of the Greek team supporters. Their attitude was intolerable. Now admit it you hate Turks you just excuse yourself like that.

lol nobody likes turks turkey = 3rd world country fenerbahce ?????? U lost in game and u shown 136 fans why is that ???? al die other fans are gay ?

[@Tceker]

1453 ! HAHHAHAHAA

[@masterunboxings917]

Tolunay Ceker 1821 χαχαχα

[@pavlosta7173]

AMUNA KUDUM mongol

[@Tceker]

@BROGLI3 1453 HAHAHHHAHHAHAHA

[@ΙωαννηςΙωαννης-β1χ]

Sorry 250000vs 5000greeks 1453