FENGRUSH Rant - One Tamriel

[@Alcasthq]

Sadly, as long as ZOS does not make any $$$$ from PVP, they will only invest a SMALL portion of resources into improving it. Plus the numbers of players PVPing is on a all low due to those circumstances created. Map was created for 600-800 Players PER Alliance. its down to 150-200 Players now, "Fixed" lag?

[@bailey3562]

Alcast I think pvp gets them quite a bit of money, not directly, but Sypher, kodi, feng, etc getting 300 to upwards of 1k viewers draws in a lot of new players that see the cool shit they do and but the game wanting to do the same

[@mrstoleurdog3873]

Alcast is bae🎮😂😂

[@-kostix-4341]

Sadly, the majority of cash flowing into this game comes from RPers. No, really. They're spending a lot of money on cosmetics and mounts. RP is as far away from PVP as it gets, and ZOS is going to cater to the group that spends money, naturally. So don't expect things to get better anytime soon. Oh well. Camelot Unchained releases next year.

[@slversrfr99]

Yeah, my money is on that ZOS won't do much, if anything, about PVP, until games like CU come out, even Crowfall - heavy competition for the PVP base of ESO, hell it won't even be a competition because ESO PVP can't touch what CU and Crowfall will be doing. Do something NOW, ZOS, before mass exodus of your PVP base to CU and/or Crowfall.

[@eligio7907]

As long as people keep playing this game they wont listen

[@Markytous]

Oh, the problems we had no clue or warning that were coming with the future of ESO. When Viper Veli or Duneripper were the most of the problems... Missing these times bitterly.

[@seanschofield2798]

gotta come back to this gem every couple of years

[@QuantumV]

Dear Fengrush, I've watched this video entirely twice. I couldn't find A SINGLE point you made that I disagreed. You, good sir, just said the truth in it's rawest state. Specially when you're talking about how all the zergs are born, and why people start ganking. I was thinking about making one yesterday, after just getting zerged down (not 2v24s... we're talking about 2v40). ZoS always keeps encouraging zergs, slowly and steadily. Dynamic Ult gen, AOE Caps, current templar (or whatever class for the matter) builds... Thank you so much for using your influence to try to change things... Sadly, you're completly right... Thank you again, Fengrush.

[@JohnDoe-or3cl]

Lol zenimax is gonna have feng assassinated cuz he speaks the truth.

[@juanthestabber]

They just tune him out because they can't handle any criticism. They actually called the "We are ESO" podcast "toxic." For game devs, they really have some thin skins and don't have what it takes to square with the PvP community. We want communication but they cant handle criticism.

[@firstking_1414]

Lol he sounds like a old Vietnam war vet lol when he first talk about pvp

[@gaunjee4182]

pfffff yea..

[@TheAcidPhosphate]

Maaan, you don't even know...YOU WEREN'T THERE....I've seen the horrors of cyrodiil. Have you seen friends and team mates getting ganked left and right and all you could do is watch? I'VE SEEN THINGS MAN.

[@firstking_1414]

My Pet Pickle lol haha

[@BruceLeeDesu]

My Pet Pickle Hahaha

[@nayaleezy]

goddamn a good fengrush rant is like an aged scotch after a long day

[@SRIBES]

Yup, ZOS had the game pretty balanced in 1.5/1.6 in regards to the overall game, with some tweaks and nerfs/buffs they would have perfected the game. The vampire ultimate video btw was when cost reduction was retarded and you could get bats to cost like 80% less.

[@FENGRUSH]

SRIBES yea, ult gen could be reduced a lot. but even on sorc I could get a negate in one streak. that's not the end state, but something in between should be designed.

[@BigChungus-of9fl]

SRIBES the orsinium patch was a lot more balanced than 1.6 in 1.6 sorcerers were beyond OP

[@lokhir8099]

well dk was rly strong too

[@ehmonja]

SRIBES but you were all moaning it wasnt? Looool

[@smitty7326]

removing soft caps and adding CP fucked it all up. I hop on the game every so often, but never get beyond 5 minutes into pvp before I remember why I quit.

[@DoGmAnGuY1758]

40 minutes? Let me get the popcorn for this one

[@Mindlessfreak5432]

WOW even 5 years later we still have this problem. proc sets just got taken out of cryodil. Took long enough. HI past feng:D

[@MeliodasssESO]

PvP is so terrible at the moment a lot of good players have quit and its sad to see a game with so much potential to just ruin itself

[@GhostOfKratos93]

It's not even just prof sets. Most of my death involves 20k+ eye of flame ulties. Heck, I got hit by a 54k one (wtf?) by a non emp, as a non-vampire. Same with soul assault. It's not just Stam.

[@llElLoboll]

Being an Xbox player the most annoying thing is the game crashing so often. Allot of dueling in Grahtwood? Get DCed. Huge fight in Cyrodiil? Get DCed. With the game being out for so long why have major consistent issues like this not been fixed? Sadly I'm too hooked to quit though lol.

[@tfft_shinigami]

ll El Lobo ll on ps4 its EPed 😂

[@llElLoboll]

konjoswa lol

[@TheAcidPhosphate]

I don't get to many crashing problems on xbox. Every now and then I'll have a day where it crashes a lot but usually I could play all day if I wanted and it wouldn't crash.

[@llElLoboll]

My Pet Pickle I haven't had to many problems the last week or so but about three weeks ago I was crashing every hour.

[@AceOfTrez]

Starts with "we all know about proc sets, we won't go over them". Immediately follows with proc set rant LMAO Fengrush, I love you. Never change, bro.

[@DelbertStinkfester]

I just started playing this game when the One Tamriel update dropped....I'm overwhelmed by how much there is to do and how much there is to know....I freaking love this game....There's so much content....I'll never do everything that there is to do

[@bailey3562]

DelbertStinkfester this video isn't for you then, enjoy the game at your leisure but when you get past all that and are at end game and have been playing for 1yr+ like we have you'll understand

[@shacklebreaker]

haha this aged like fine wine

[@fayevalentina77]

lmao feng rush I love your builds, you made me come back to the game to make a stam sorc. I had fun for a while, but got tired of maelstrom rng (not getting sharpened 2handers) and decided to take a break. I also almost quit after the vicious ophidian nerf. Farmedt that necklace for 2 months. Anyway, came to say that I was thinking of getting back to it to try so more but you've inspired me to rethink that. Plus your rants make me crack up all the time so thanks for that lol I spend a lot of time farming in PVE mostly cause of the terrible rng in this game, but PVP was my first love. You make me not feel so bad for taking a break. Best of luck to you

[@RavenousBison]

Videos like this are absolutely essential for anything to change! You hit every bullet point concerning the state of this game with a bulls-eye. ZOS ALWAYS either doubles something or takes it out completely, without even a thought of changing the numbers a bit or making restrictions on sets that would otherwise be op when used in combination with other sets. I've put so many hours into pvp in this game and still haven't been to half the locations on the map because the center "ring" is the only place there is action. The way ZOS is acting towards pvp is the way people act when sweeping dirt under a rug. I worry for when the battlegrounds come out (if zos hasn't killed all of their playerbase by that point) because the game is so imbalanced and always SO extreme that you will have to conform to the "meta" to even be competitive. Whats the point of battlegrounds if everyone has to play the same class/build to be able to stay relevant? Kinda like the way everyone is "forced" to either gank or zerg in cyrodiil because anything else results in gettin dicked constantly. On top of all that, it's impossible to find any action in Cyrodiil that doesn't become a zergfest as soon as it is flagged on the map. Giving players a reason to spread out through-out the map would create small battles everywhere as opposed to what we've got now. Thank you for pointing the facts out to people, Fengrush, hopefully they will act on these facts, this game needs people like you! The hero Cyrodiil NEEDS, and DESERVES!

[@RavenousBison]

PS: I'm completely good with the idea of a "meta" as long as it doesn't restrict players to one class/build.

[@Brok3n_54]

well said Feng ... this rant was needed and i truly hope zenimax sees this.. ESO meta rn has ruined the fun of this game for players who have been on the game since day 1

[@bailey3562]

K1R I've been playing for so long now and I've never played the super meta class or build but now I feel like I have no choice but to put on the viper and the veli and the Selene

[@leifff6996]

I'm a Guild Wars 2 veteran whose focus was WvW (tl;dr described as a cyrodil equivalent), I love small man fighting and duels. I quit playing that game in recent months because Arenanet honestly could not give two fucks about Guild Wars 2's open world pvp. I mean, if Spvp has a problem it's fixed immediately, so there's a trend here with not caring about open world, but for ESO, this IS pvp. Feng, I started playing ESO recently and a lot of its problems mirroring what I'm used to almost put me off of it, but I want you to know that you're the reason I've decided to keep going on it for awhile. This is a great video. I've gave up on Guild wars after 4 years, and it's hard to even talk about its plagues anymore, so it's nice to see someone that cares enough about their game to put stuff like this up. I hope someone from Zenimax watches this and understands that open world isn't just a place PvE players go when they're bored to kill some time. There are people that do play your game for this specific shit, please do it right.

[@TheMLGSnubs]

Been playing a proc build stamdk this meta and last night I tried going back to a 2h non viper/veli build and I swear the damage just wasn't high enough. I feel like when they get nerfed the damage won't be high enough to kill most of these heavy armor 30k health builds, and that's just going to lead to more zerging -- if more is even possible.

[@FENGRUSH]

TheMLGSnubs you nailed it. this is what will come

[@kingziad4889]

TheMLGSnubs I think you should change your name to TheMLGScrub. Git gud kid.

[@SirSquash]

if you get used to playing with FREE NO SKILL DMG, you begin to forget how to actually set up kill and line up real burst dmg, its still there in the game but you have simply didn't have the need to use it, thus forgetting how to acually play the game. all you have to do is practice and you can do good again.

[@At_Calyon]

no he is actually right m8 there are just redicoules tank builds out there on nearly everyone is in heavy armor not like it old patches like thieves guild were most players were light and medium armor users the heals became stronger with this patch cause of heavy armor users the stam management and the tankyness before u kill even a really shit player in heavy witohut u using proc sets there will be a mega zerg on your ass which basically forces u to group up at least with 3 other good players cause solo and 2vsx u will have maybe 3 times a day with 6 h play time a decent small scale which is totally not worth it adn to have at least a bit fun and dont run 24/7 to the fights on your own u need to group up so taht u get some heals resses and kills properly in a short time that has nothing to do with l2p issues or some bullshit like someone will answer to me ( i bet lol) thats just the way this game is forcing u nowadays

[@TheMLGSnubs]

SirSquash You're just incorrect with that statement. There's no magical way of setting up enough burst to oneshot-combo a 30k health templar even when they're not in reactive -- and most are. Half charging a heavy, into a crit rush, into a dizzy and into a dawnbreaker isn't going to kill the people you actually need to kill -- not to mention the fact that you now have no heal debuff. The issue is that Heavy was buffed the same time that proc sets came in -- so everyone adjusted their builds to be more tanky, regardless of whether or not they use proc sets. Everyone has more health, everyone has more crit resist -- and most people have more mitigation. The damage for all stam builds is going to go down -- and the damage really isn't that high right now anyway if you're fighting a tanky build. So when proc sets get nerfed (Especially Veli) it's going to murder the non-stealth burst. I'd love to know the logic behind your post, honestly.

[@jhaag02]

nice commentary brother. Coming from console my #1 concern is the performance, even with good fixes for mechanics if the frame rate is chugging and I can't bar-swap I am NOT going to want to pvp. But leaving that aside, I had some ideas to throw out to the community for discussion as far as mechanics go. Prepare for the text-wall : 1.) Some immunity for the soft-CCs like snares and roots kind of like how hard-CC immunity works (duration up for discussion) 2.) Poison cool-down going BOTH WAYS. You can apply a poison up to 3 effects against a player and you can't apply again for 10 seconds, the same should be said for getting poisoned yourself. So if a group rolls up spamming poisons on you, you can't get more than 3 separate poison effects and you can't get poisoned again for 10 seconds. 3.) I don't think ZOS will take the stun away from stealth attacks, but in combat out of stealth you can usually hear incoming attacks targeting you (dark flare, snipe etc). Why not make attacks audible even if done in stealth? Further ranges would make it harder to hear but give more time for the target to react, closer ranges would be louder but the impact would be quicker. Would make the game more immersive and it allows for more skilled counterplay that isn't just slotting radiant magelight or invis pots. 4.) Zergs...I got little hope in that department. But i think there's some potential for discouraging stacking up. I don't see too many Det builds anymore, and i think det is due for an update since people can just shrug off the damage now. I would like to see the skill have an added effect where those hit by the blast of det get the skill applied to them. So if a magsorc applies det to a player in a group and it goes off hitting 10 people, those 10 people caught in the blast all have det applied to them and the countdown is refreshed. 10 more Dets going off in 4 seconds is a pretty strong incentive to spread out. There should be some kind of stam strategy also. A lot of people use dawnbreaker reverse slice to break a group and it can work, maybe make reverse slice do more damage per person in the splash or apply an additional bleed that scales up. I realize this would be a nightmare for performance, and its generally bad to address problem mechanics with individual skill changes and itemization, but it might be worth looking into since ZOS is so dead-set on ignoring the issues with zergs. If you don't want to mess with individual skills, you could also rework how status effects work. For magicka the burning/chilled/concussed effects could increase in potency and spread by numbers in proximity, and for stam the poisoned/diseased/bleed could function the same. If tuned correctly (a tall order i know) it might make it pure misery to run in a large packed group. 5.) I don't think proc sets should be able to crit or be affected by CP, as they aren't skills. Viper, tremor, malubeth procs can't crit or be boosted by allocating CP. I'd start there... 6.) If sets are going to have a "% bonus or debuff" mechanic, make it one of the named buffs/debuffs or set it to a hard non-% based value. This is what makes reactive and malubeth so strong since the effect can stack with CP and buffs. Adjust reactive to give a named protection buff (minor protection for ex) or just allow it to grant a fixed armor value. Either of those can be countered. (penetration, fracture, vulnerability debuff). In its current form the buff that reactive gives has no counter, there's no named debuff that increases a target's damage taken by 35%. Same goes with malubeth, make it major/minor mending so it can be countered with defile and can't multi-stack with other named mending buffs. 7.) Skills should also follow the named buff/debuff system. The 20% damage increase on targets hit with incap strike is arbitrary, why not make it one of the vulnerability debuffs that can at least be countered by a skilled player??? Snares should be the same, minor or major slow, none of this 70% snare. Just some ideas to put out there open for discussion. Cheers.

[@andresramirez5306]

Fengrush for ZOS 2017

[@jasonwilkinsjr7286]

was in under 50 campaign and a zerg of 50+ wiped three times trying to take out two templars.

[@vashtheelicit2870]

I pop eso on every day do my writs, play pvp till I get the blue screen on ps so about 10 minutes. all I've ever done on eso is pvp don't care much for pve personally and I'm losing the urge to play this game completely.

[@yalekohli9554]

Josh Moore most are

[@vashtheelicit2870]

I just don't understand man. not sure if they have this issue on pc but I'll get through a fight or just aimlessly wandering and all my stam and mag will drain at once and I'll die with no indicators. snipe hit me 17 times though according to death screen.

[@PsychoDragonfly]

yeah between the lag and the hardcore srs people with proc sets and stuff it feels kinda pointless to even try. I'm a level 200CP or so filthy casual so I just find other things to do that aren't pvp

[@craig5.56]

Fengrush, you nailed it. I haven't PvPed in approximately 6 months because of the issues you mentioned. I'm basically a PVE player now and focus my builds for dungeons and VMA. Only time I go to Cyrodil is to check the weekly monster set that's for sale. Sucks because Pvp was fun, but with my limited time I have to play, I'll play what I enjoy and that is now PVE.

[@Faolin70]

Big plays as always Feng - great video with great points! Went back to Skyrim Special Edition while proc sets run their course.

[@knock0ut650]

bruh,i need your rants in a playlist.

[@ronanoloingsigh5251]

fengrush rants

[@DBHErazor]

Preach oh Lord. Show us the way of the biceps!

[@n2wor870]

Ahem men brother! I haven't stepped foot in pvp for weeks, which means my play time on ESO has dropped massively. PvP eu on PS4 is like watching cctv footage from the late 90's, infact it's less choppy back then. Skilless nightblades rely on on the proc burst, if that fails they stealth up and run away. 90% of them target lowbies making there enjoyment of an already horrendous experience for them a lot worse than it needs to be, why would new players stay in PvP? The way PvP was set up brought me to this game, the way PvP is set up now is making me leave this game alone for long periods. It's a real, real same. ZOS just needs to listen to its community more, it's this loyal community that will improve the game for the newer players incoming when new irritations on there base game relaunch for new customer. Keeping them is the important part for all of us

[@yalekohli9554]

N2woR yeh man so many original PS4 Eu legends have quit. Eso has died... a shame

[@GamesDiddley]

N2woR just thumbs up for the CCTV comment. The frame rate is a joke!

[@myles6388]

Thank you for making this video and speaking out about these issues Feng!

[@squeakydragon3959]

With every patch comes a new rant video. Gota love it . As for countering the proc sets you may want to consider a new build. Im a solo player with no proc set other than monster helment and have no problems.

[@IWUSkittles]

Good video. You hit the nail on the head. I don't even know what build to do anymore on my mageblade because I did bombing for a long time but it's just not fun anymore. Instead, I been doing trials and when I do go in Cyrodiil I just go in with my trial setup because it just doesn't matter to me anymore. I still get kills so it's still fun at times even when I am wearing all light/divines but I am not taking it as serious as I use to. Any advice on a player who likes to play solo or sometimes with a group who is a mageblade that is not a bomb build?

[@Mayhem-]

Real talk and very wise words mate! I am hoping this gets seen by someone at ZOS!

[@Packersgod27843]

I made a destro gank build a long time ago and it was a lot of fun hitting people with 20k heavy attacks, but magicka stealth attacks don't cc like stam does, so a lot of people were able to recover from it. Tried stam ganking last week and it's just ridiculous who you can two shot. If you don't 2 shot them, then they're cc'd on the ground and you kill them with incap, which gives you enough ultimate for you to have another incap when you pop a potion. As you said eliminating viper solves nothing, there's a few sets out there that with certain skills/cp setups that can be just as bad. I don't even get annoyed by the gankers though because as you said, what else are they going to do? there are 3 things going on in pvp right now...ganking, zerging, and getting run over.

[@Wouterlambregts]

you know what we need fengrush? pvp armour only for pvp with rank based bonus. battlegrounds scaled on rank/pvp gear. 6v6 12v12 and 4v4 and 2v2

[@GamesDiddley]

Mini poll: who has quit, who is considering quitting, who is happy with PvP as it is now?

[@romanvanriper9069]

Hey Feng. Really enjoy your videos. Even when they are rant videos, it just shows the amount of passion you have for this game and hope for it being improved. Keep up the work. People like need to know whats wrong with the game so we can adapt and for a casual like me its not always obvious. I want to make a stam character. Which class should I go for right now as I am rerolling? A stam DK or a Stam Sorc? Thanks

[@MrRedGiraffe907]

Zenimax wont change cyrodil until is affects new players one tamriel was to make the game more cohesive and appealing to new players what I think they really need is a team that is in charge of managing cyrodil and the ridiculous balancing it needs

[@FENGRUSH]

MrSuicidalGiraffe it does impact new players so badly. that's part of the issue

[@MrRedGiraffe907]

FENG RUSH yeah I agree most of them hit 10 and go "oh cyrodil what's this" go there and just die over and over. So then they just don't go into cyrodil. So until cyrodil becomes something you can't ignore it doesn't matter to zenimax , because other wise people will just pve. And it really saddens me I miss seeing variation in class builds and people playing in unique ways. One of the most creative builds I ever saw was your sword shield orc stamina sorc at the time I thought it was legendary. Something has to give and I'm sorry I ranted myself, one day something will change.

[@hayride8]

FENG RUSH I used to pvp all the time. but it seems you have to use a meta build just to survive or kill someone now. I just stick to pve for now. I'm a mediocre player, not great but not horrible so without a meta build I die constantly.

[@kkjounior]

Feng what times do you stream, love you rants I'm constantly laughing! Such realistic arguments but the passion you put into them has me creasing

[@HoeimaBastian]

LOL going back to this now Feng, this is great. even after One Tamriel. Pure Comedy ROFL XD

[@djmil42]

Wholehearted agreement. Proc sets are definitely broken. Dueling or 1v1 in PvP with a Sorc with Infernal Guardian? That thing procs every time it pops a shield. You had better be tanky with DPS. Tremor, Widow, Viper? Ransack procs 17k free, undodgeable Damage. On command. 50% of the time. It's broken. Need to go back to 15 seconds between procs, 6% chance to proc on ALL proc Damage sets.

[@katsmaintanklive]

@Fengrush yooooooo brotha! Great video! I agree with 99.9% of your observation on PvP and how Zenimax has failed/neglected to handle it. As Alcast stated, ZoS won't put any real resources into a portion of the game that doesn't generate (from their buisness pov) consistent income. I stopped playing ESO a few weeks before One Tamriel because I saw where their "vision" was going, as always to PvE. I do hope to come back in time as I do miss the stated "feel of the kill" as a StamSorc when there where literally a handful of us on console and we weren't considered a "traditional" melee stam class or one worth running for that matter. Keep up the fight! #WeShallOvercome #PvPlivesMatter #GlowingOnTheBattlefield #PushingTheBallUpHillSon

[@IshimuraaYT]

Got this in my recommendations lol I remember watching this when it came out…poor pvp players still getting nothing much lol

[@ianwalker2205]

How does everyone feel about summer of 2015? That's when I started playing (I'm on xbox) and I love it but now I've seen the game degraded to hell. I miss those days 😞

[@Blumpkinlove]

Ic and Town flags need to award potential points for each faction.

[@deadtothewxrld]

root-lock has been a big issue to me for a long time. I recently played for the first time in a couple months, grouped with 7-8 other guild members. Opening encounter, I was met with permaroot in a slideshow fight at a keep. I won't be coming back anytime soon

[@furlyghost]

Daniel Manning when i first started out in pvp i went to forums complaining about roots needing cd and everyone suggested the same thing, a form of counter play. so i grabbed an ice staff and fought fire with fire. eventually moved on but i see how it's a slippery slope

[@Packersgod27843]

yeah, my buddy and I were trying to 2 v 6 in imperial city a couple of days ago on magicka nightblades. Here were the setups of the opposition 1. One stam sorc running fengrush's tank/ulti gen build with perma roots 2. two magicka sorcs hardcasting frags 3. one light armor low cp magicka templar 4. 2 snipe spamming stam nightblades. we killed them a few times because their dps guys didn't know how to apply shields but if you're a mag blade and you get rooted in a negate and there are two people snipe spamming while 2 others are hardcasting frags there's just not much you can do to counter it. you can't shadow image out and if you are rooted in the middle of it, one dodge roll wont get you out of the bubble either. The lack of being able to counter negate/meteor/soul assault etc is a huge problem in this game.

[@MingNguyen13]

i've ragequitted this game but i still watch u Fengrush,kudos for you for being so passionate and devoted to this game,wonder when will the devs listen to us players and save the pvp of this dying game

[@seppo255]

Nicely said Fengrush, couldnt have said it better myself. Next major patch notes are either breaking the game of me or making the game. They need to fix shitload of issues.

[@Hojata]

Thank you for the objective opinion you give on the game - always cheers me up to watch one of your vids man - keep up the great work

[@DawgyPvP]

When I saw him look at #6 I couldn't help to think about that video that was edited to make him wait too hear about AOE caps and they started showing shield dying

[@ellahues4185]

Wait what are battlegrounds? Are they gonna be those big doors with a blue tree looking thing on it in each alliance area in the sewers?

[@virusthesnafu]

FENGRUSH i noticed at the bottom of the login screen they have a contest where you can win a chance at a vacation. how much money have they spent on things like that that could have been spent on paying for more help in shop.

[@Raezuvlite]

I don't understand why the monster sets are even allowed to work in pvp at all. The sets shouldn't be nerfed, but seeing that you can't use champion points in Cyrodiil, the monster sets shouldn't work either. Some of the monster sets are wonderful for pve and should be kept that way. Pve shouldn't have to shouldn't have to suffer because someone who wants to play pvp is suffering. If the two were kept separate and were kept that way, problem solved. I don't understand why that's so freakin hard.

[@AceOfTrez]

You can use Champ points in Cyro, just not Azura or Blackwater

[@Raezuvlite]

Oh ok, my bad! I completely forgot about that. Thanks!

[@TheAcidPhosphate]

Yeah that's what I've been saying too, if they just made it so when you entered PVP the none of procs worked, it would fix a lot of issues.

[@AussieNord]

I play PVP a lot also, all I'm seeing lately is gankers, Blazing Shield Templars and zergers with proc sets. I actually saw a Zerg of blazing shield Templars the other day. Now that was scary lol. You did give me one idea with the map cut out part though, I might start sneaking around and attacking the keeps at the back lines. I'll get zerged and killed but at least they will leave the circuit for a bit while they do

[@josephstein5198]

Keep getting trolled by groups of 40-60% templar tanks in the off / alliance / PvE campaigns.

[@michaeldigby7740]

yo fengrush what do you think about adding the town's and a few keeps from the edge of the map to the keeps you have to have for emp. you know break that ring up

[@rayrack5416]

Whoah there. I don't know about PC, but on PS4 there is plenty of small group pvp in towns. Bruma is a great place for small groups to fight and I've had a ton of fun with this aspect of the game. Granted, I'd love to see towns be much MORE than capture the flag and would LOVE to see them integrated into the larger campaign. I hate the assymetry of the town locations! The 2 lower towns should be in the center of their respective triangles, like Bruma.

[@josephstein5198]

My only complaint here is the NPC's. As a mag character, being silenced and disoriented every time it wears off gets fvcking old.

[@rayrack5416]

Hey, they are great for building ult!

[@axvic]

I agree completely with what you say Fengrush. The PvP is in a very bad shape at the moment, not that it hasn't been before but it's even worse now. I think they should scrap the entirety of the emperor system/vision bullshit. Halve the amount of keeps and castles and create an incentive to actually fight and capture areas of the map. A siege shouldn't under any circumstances take .. I dunno, any less than an hour. It's not a siege if if takes the same amount of time as setting up a picknick. It's not a siege if 2-3 people can do it by themselves. I wouldn't mind it if they removed the alliance gate areas of the map and made them instanced battlegrounds that you can only access/queue up for when that alliance is actually having to defend. Make the map of Cyrodiil a true war on two fronts for each alliance, split the map into several parts. If AD breaks through the gates of EP there should be consequences, ramifications that effect the PvE world as well. Make some cities burn and introduce some new PvE quests, for the Aldmeri Dominion has ravaged our lands! Oh woe! We spend hundreds of hours learning about the war between the alliances, but ultimately it objectively means absolutely nothing. There is no war. There's just a massive brawl, just as silly as brawls in any other game. Take Warhammer Online for example, it was in many ways a broken and failed game. But the RvR concept and execution of that system was really quite awesome and interesting. The battle front moves and forces players to choose where and when to fight. The fight can't just be on one map, there has to be stages, risks and rewards. But to be honest, ANYTHING would be better than what we have now. Remove Cyrodiil all together for all I care, and add battlegrounds instead. A lot of players myself included does just what you say Fengrush, we up and leave - we look at Cyrodiil and the proc sets and go "Fuck that I'm outta here". And seeing as this is the case ZOS should just try and do something new - because for us, the leavers, it can't get any worse.

[@seth2810]

Thx Feng agree , stam focus and proc sets and being zerged over and cant move and skills not fireing have turned me off pvping atm . Stam proc sets are pvping for people and you literally cant move at times the non stop cc , every ones in heavy so dont get one shot , been here since beta and its outta control cant be bothered with cyradiil now

[@Calder90]

Sounds to me like we're in the same boat.... just crossing our fingers and waiting for Camelot Unchained.

[@alinfliy1]

so 3 years late is exactly how Feng said....viper worthless, cyro even worse with more lag and fps in single digits, population went down crazy, but they still ca make up a zerg and fuck u up in a second, memory leaks....so yea....way to go Zeni, this is the proof that in 5 years of ESO things got to the point that pvp is unbearable

[@DD-mp1kl]

so i just got into eso about a month ago and never done pvp simply cuz i always suck at playing pvp in any game, but when you were talking about pvpers jsut running around in circles around the city with the citys having flags being pointless. What if instead of just being a war over the throne, the war has gone on so long all sides are starved for resources, and what area has riches of resources? all the areas of cyrodil. so why not have certain areas have abundances of resources, specific resources in different areas that can give the different sides advantages along with rewarding players for gathering the resources and getting them back to their base alive.

[@gagemg2758]

Keep it up brotha... keep spittin the truth. Hopefully they'll do something about it all soon but I still don't plan on it

[@Eso_lags]

you said everything I've been saying or thinking for a while. Idk how this gets fixed. solo I have to run around with 2500 health because in an outnumbered situation, people just hit to hard.

[@Eso_lags]

6 years later nothings changed

[@Strider_Roshin]

You know what sucks about Nightblades? Ganking is the only niche they have. Every class can have burst now, except have a ton better survivability at the same time. Stamblades offer nothing in terms of group PvP, and are one of the worst dueling classes due to the fact that they can't double dip major mending with major vitality.

[@matthewcolquhoun8486]

you say theyre bad in duels but 7/10 duelists I always see at duels are meta bitchblades spamming incap every 10-20 seconds cause of the insane 50 ult cost for a skill that has a stun, high damage, major defile and increases ur damage for 6 seconds

[@Strider_Roshin]

Yeah they're bad in duels because that major defile doesn't do crap when your opponent's healing is increased by 55%. Also the meta is stam DKs/Templars in heavy armor. Also that incap is fairly underwhelming when compared with Ultimates such as the destro staff EotS.

[@matthewcolquhoun8486]

Strider Roshin incap vs medium or light players is beyond broken and comparing it to desto isn't a good comparison as yes the desto ult is broken but it doesn't cost 50 ult on the class that can get 20 ult from a pot really the skill needs a cost increase same with what they did to dawnbreaker which was a fair nerf

[@Strider_Roshin]

Yeah incap is very to defend against, and it is incredibly hard to land on a good player. Dawnbreaker is a guarantee hit, EotS is a guarantee kill. Make incap un-dodgeable, and un-blockable, and a cost increase would be justifiable.

[@Strider_Roshin]

Easy*

[@Paladin-Codius]

The reason Cyrodil never changes is because it's in a constant state of literal war. And war never changes.

[@carternewcomb6568]

I think Zenimax is focusing their attention on Pve because that is where the majority of the population lies however that is not an excuse to ignore PvP. Cyrodil has about 2 to 3 patches left if Zenimax doesn't do anything about it. Sigh.

[@rainestorm1110]

Fengrush do you think that dueling may have hurt the pvp aspects of IC, since people can duel anywhere and don't really need to go to the sewers or IC anylonger for fights

[@FENGRUSH]

Yea, I think it did hit at that smaller scale vibe people wanted

[@jeffreynoble9531]

I haven't even watched it yet, but I love the rants from Feng rush! Long live the proc sets!

[@alucard8433]

lol Proc sets are what ruined pvp...

[@jeffreynoble9531]

Boblob Law for real?

[@seth2428]

Can't they put a cap on procs? Like only one 5pcs + one undaunted proc

[@atlasthetitan698]

I vote removing em completely or worst case only allowing one proc at a time with a cool down. Also get rid of the tankiness

[@lonestaronestar1845]

Atlas the Titan. agree. and remove poison completely.

[@zDan97]

ZOS NEEDS TO SEE THIS. EVERY POINT IS SO VALID.

[@logangardenhire461]

this video should be on a loop in the eso war room

[@haveheart1990]

2021 they finally disabled procs in pvp but the game is still fucking laggy!

[@biljancanin]

The problem with Viper is that they decited to bring it back to 160 CP instead of leaving it to i think it was VR7 max

[@sleecher9853]

Dude literally yes.... everything you are saying is spot on. This video is great.

[@dembux6429]

I rarely play my nighblade now but if they would take away the extra stealth damage, then I think they should give nightblades a better way to boost up physical and spell resistance.

[@haveheart1990]

what exactly is battlegrounds and arena?

[@alucard8433]

Arena is like 1v1, 2v2, 3v3. Battlegrounds are gonna be like 10v10 with objectives.

[@daylonsyler8789]

i dont have time to watch the whole video but were they announced?

[@vernandoe]

Daylon Syler they're announced but when they'll be released and how they'll be won't be discussed until next year

[@THEALAN121]

preach my lord! Zos just don't care anymore, there like "pvp needs somthing, OK we will throw this in, don't care what it does or how it works, just put it in" they need to meet or talk to PVPers, dedicate resources to it, maybe even open another campaign up. I feel sorry for new players, I really do.

[@StoneSlayer]

I loved every single minute of this. Keep it up!

[@bobbysixkillah9076]

im with you in most of your arguments but i think you missunderstood an elemental point in cyrodill: The whole enviroment, like the big keeps and the vast landscapes and distances, are build for massive battles with huge groups fighting each other. youre not supposed to run alone! why should you?! the game (at least in cyrodill, not in IC) is meant to group up in zergs assaulting the keeps. but youre right when you said that the problem of the crowded server is the massive lag!!! that needs to be fixed instantly! Thats just my opinion...

[@Pandalius]

What they really need to do is a top down approach to PvP. Down-up works well with PvE only in focus, but when it comes to PvP, it the elite only do one thing, so will 90% of everyone else.

[@arvenblack5656]

Did you see Sypher playing mag sorc the other day? He was so annoyed all the time. Cant blame him. I dont want to spend a minute in pvp with my mag sorc.

[@ItsTwister1]

Arven Black try stamplar in medium armor...

[@arvenblack5656]

AR x ReApZ From what I have heard medium armor is used only by gankers in pvp, because its the best to run heavy. So try switching it up. Cant really imagine mag sorc in heavy armor.

[@HX1122]

AR x ReApZ Yeah I gave up on my stamplar it just got so stupid... had 5.7k weapon damage and it did shit all V these new builds. Swapped to a stamblade running alchemist viper and veledrith and it is dirty...

[@inn8892]

Arven Black I play all light armor as a sorc I streak every we're i never get on my horse n I never drop my shield ever

[@arvenblack5656]

Garth inniss Your magicka must be really huge since you can streak so much as you say. I think you are making that one up ;)

[@ITSALOB]

Two years later and the state of the game is still pretty much the same.

[@pautish]

What is the Dragonknight build in the video?

[@ehmonja]

Meteor not able to be reflected was such a horrible addition

[@cozzy6547]

And us Australians do t like to pvdoor. But there's no other players on at our time bro. Literally no ap to earn unless we stay up till 3am

[@FENGRUSH]

Brendan Cosgrove not even mad at aussies, I'm just saying what my options are from what we have

[@cozzy6547]

I know bro. You adres issues and put them on show for all too see. It's one of the reasons I respect you. I just hope Zenimax is watching.

[@FENGRUSH]

I care about aussies lol. I have a lot of aussie subs cause I stream their time zone cause my sleep schedule is completely fucked

[@cozzy6547]

God's don't sleep.

[@rasmusholtkbh89]

Don't you dare speak back at me FengRush! Did you know aussies eats koalabears!?!!??! People who eat such a cute animal are beasts and should not be allowed on this channel!!

[@Tentacl]

Being a new and excited player that just had my PvP expectations crused, I must say - Zenimax must fix animation cancel rules. Animations must be less random and cancelling must cease to exist (or at least have some rules, like canceling only after the hit animation is complete). PRoc sets cause multihits, but animation cancelling is the other guilty for out of control alpha strikes.

[@furlyghost]

go fight a giant and practice. not hard to learn but adds skill in combat if u try to learn. combat rn is just fucked tho

[@Tentacl]

Kyle Rowland I watched a video and I'm gettin it. That's not the issue I'm pointing. When you can group up 2 attacks every GC it's obvious burst will be too high for balanced PvP, that's the issue.

[@Dyloraa]

Just watched the whole thing

[@djflegg]

I think the major problem with Cyrodiil is it's supposed setting, and how far away from it that it is. Cyrodiil is supposed to be a war zone, with soldiers from each alliance launching coordinated assaults on keeps and defending ones under attack. It is nothing like that though, and that is because every player is the saviour of nirn, every player is a champion and a hero, every player has unique gear and skill sets, there just aren't any soldiers. Zergs of so called unique champions all exploiting the latest flawed mechanic remove any possibility of Cyrodiil being this epic war zone of skirmishes and open warfare, and it becomes like you say, a merry go round of zerg after zerg just farming AP. The setting, the environment and the execution of Cyrodiil is shoddy at best, but it's almost impossible for it to be fixed, without removing people's ability to customise their builds so much, without reworking the way rewards are earned from the ground up, there is no incentive to deviate from the norm.

[@ste456]

I vehementally refuse to use proc sets. The older sets don't bother me (personally I fucking LOVE craftable sets - the whole crafting my own stuff then kicking ass in it - thats a really cool feeling). But proc sets are pathetic. Completely agree about the gankers too. I don't mind zerging too much but I HATE the way it's almost magnetic - it keeps less experienced players (like me) close because if we try to break away we become fodder for the fucking gankers.

[@andropea]

I feel you. I'm running a variation of kristofs dark light templar build, crafted set only. Because frankly the same reasons as you and also I like the playstyle. Thing is.. I'm purposly gimping myself... All I ever see is me evaporating in a gank or getting shit on by a zerg. *net saying a lack of skill is not a factor for me...

[@CHAMPDOGZ]

had to come back i think you captured the exact feeling of the majority hardcore pvp'rs but Alcast says it all the time they make No money from pvp so they wont fix it they dont care. They desperately need a team specific designated to the pvp side of the game along with the rebalancing sets, proc fix etc. they got a lot of work to do,not big work but a lot of little stuff here, little stuff there just a whole lot of little stuff and they're adding up and it sucks. also alot of guys on PTS just wanna be the first to have a build on YT you guys on PTS need to do a better job on the communication because either they're not listening to the PTS players or nobody's testing enough and communicating it to them but u know what theres a build video on something right away PTS like wtf is going on MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD ALSO

[@colemacdonald6857]

Played off and on for a long time but recently got pretty heavy into the game and was looking forward to getting into pvp when I hit cap but man this sounds demoralizing and like I don't even want to keep going now. Good watch though

[@zDan97]

Xbox EU is also cancer. Overpopulated scourge with constant lag, running together spamming bullshit skills and tanking through bursts

[@Eskinore]

Why not just run Radiant Light to combat Nightblades stealth attacks? If you think Nightblades are really that bad for you, run that ability on your bar and it: 1.) reduces damage from stealth, 2.) prevents you from being stunned. I'm on console and that's what it does, is it not the same for you?

[@matthewcolquhoun8486]

but why should everyone be forced to run a magic specific ability you shouldn't have to do the same as everyone else to be at least a bit effective. For example magic Templar everyone asks me why aren't I wearing heavy and its cause I like my light armour god damn it XD

[@JJ-FRASER-]

I run 5 toothrow 3 jewellery pieces 2 daggers and full 5 viper chest, belt, hands, legs and feet with mighty Chudan 2 piece head and shoulders for more resistance in battle. Believe me it's so overpowered, having the major savagery and viper active on the one bar makes this build a one shot build its very effective

[@AndrewCangelose]

I completely agree with what you're saying. But have you thought about coming to console? I'm on the Xbox 1 NA. and almost every campaign always has people in it. Small or large group. Try it out.

[@anannoyedpanda]

bigcang68 consoles have horrid lag compared to PC friend

[@anacronrealz]

anyone know if they gonna add batlegrounds? or arena pvp?

[@CoDKinG104]

Anyone else remember the bug where you could stack camo hunter and legit hit people for like 100k damage in 1 light attack. That was when the game was broken at its peak.

[@popeaguru6131]

Really sad part is with all these proc sets its drowning out all of the possibilities the newly added sets have to offer, someone can just spend 5 minutes looking up a gank build on youtube and kill someone who actually spent time theorizing and then building something original in a second.