There is actually a third leaching process. The indigenous tribes of California used alternating hot and cold water to more quickly leach out the tannins, without losing the starches in the acorn meal. They'd pour over boiling hot water, and after a few moments, pour over very cold water. They'd do this over and over until it was ready (typically around four hours). I work as a tour guide in Yosemite, and your videos, along with my historical research has really helped me in finding a means of making an authentic food that made up over 85 percent of most native Californian's diets.
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thanks for the info. :D Have you seen our Acorn Series from this year? I've uploaded a lot more videos as shorts.
@thechad44852 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging I haven’t checked out all of the shorts yet, but I definitely plan to!
@thechad44852 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging There’s an old stock footage video of one of the indigenous guides (Maggie Howard/Tabucee) in Yosemite making acorn bread on KZbin called “Bread From Acorns (1933),” that shows the old process being performed. They’d often mix crushed manzanita berry skins into the meal as a natural sweetener, adding a mild cider flavor.
@uarestrong76 Жыл бұрын
i was also thinking of the creek leaching method which was also used by indigienous peoples to just leach large batches over long periods of time.
@thechad4485 Жыл бұрын
@@uarestrong76 Definitely a process used, typically when there was an abundance of supply.
@jenheadjen3 жыл бұрын
That was seriously one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I had no idea you could make bread (and flour) out of acorns! Mind blown!!!
@matthewcain28804 ай бұрын
Look into permaculture
@Rebecca.Elizabeth Жыл бұрын
I came here to learn how to make acorn flour for Korean acorn jelly. But now I also want to make the bread!
@dianaflower7333 жыл бұрын
I've collected acorns for a second time. Perfect timing to see this. Hopefully I'll get these processed. Thank you!
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Best wishes! Feel free to reach out if you need any help!
@kenny6920 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I'm collecting acorns here in SoCal for the first time here we go
@markadams29072 жыл бұрын
I've watch several uploads on how to make acorn flour and this is the best
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@badgoy84392 жыл бұрын
this would be a looooooot of work especially without the electric equipment, but what an incredible food source for survival in the woods
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Totally, adds respect to the native groups that processed acorns for food!
@melioristicone3334 ай бұрын
Most of them did it passively... For example in a basket tied off in running water.. It does take a bit longer. But it freed up one for multitasking. Thank you for the informative upload;)@FeralForaging
@naturalfreehuman6 күн бұрын
not if you didn't have stupid jobs you had to go to. lol. if it was a way of life you can imagine how good everyone would be at it. we are a very poorly trained people... cheers.
@drivingmissmolly Жыл бұрын
This is my first time foraging acorns! I’m excited to have some acorn breads and desserts for thanksgiving
@FeralForaging Жыл бұрын
It’s the best!
@robreese20785 ай бұрын
Your videos are awesome! I got a foraging book a few years ago and have been reading through it. Our oak tree dropped acorns this year and I was wanting to try making acorn flour. Did the towel and meat tenderizer trick and it worked!
@dvorahlevin10532 ай бұрын
Amazing. You make it simple and very easy. Thank you
@of35282 ай бұрын
Can I use parchment paper in the dehydrator instead?
@jasonmarkson37733 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you, this was my missing link
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, glad it was helpful!
@quietrestingplaces91723 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! THANK YOU!!
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Glad that you liked it! You are very welcome!
@StirlingLighthouse3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍 Great presentation and information. Thumbs up and a new sub.
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Happy to have earned your sub!
@AnkurShah3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Jesse! Loved the info packed explanation
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ankur! :)
@sonofabear3 жыл бұрын
Nice! i need to collect the acorns in my yard and make this. Have you ever tried making nut milk with hickory nuts? it is so good!
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
I’ve made a hickory infusion before, but not but milk! Is the method to just blend them and leave them in water for a bit and then strain later on?
@abittwisted3 жыл бұрын
Mine is done leaching (cold method) and now I am drying. I put mine in an oat nut bag and drained out most of the water. I then took that and froze it until today. I put it out in the sun to partially dry while I cleaned out my dehydrator. I now have 5 racks drying in my dehydrator right now. I did not blend mine in the blender first. I ran mine through my hand grinder first. Once dry I'll once again run it through the hand grinder until I have suitable flour for my bread. I wish I had gone out to forage manzanita berries. Those make some nice tasty flour too once dried and ground into flour. I mix it with my bread.
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t foraged manzanita before! Are you from out west? I don’t we have them on the east coast.
@abittwisted3 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging Yes, Im out in Northern California. We have loads of it out here. We gather the ripe fruit and then soak them in hot water to make a tea. It is mild and sweet. Naturally sweet not processed sugar sweet. Then you remove the pulp and let it dry completely then grind it all into flour and blend with the acorn flour.
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. It sounds like a dry version of how we use persimmon here for persimmon bread pudding. You have some pretty awesome oak species for acorns over there too!
@abittwisted3 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging I know back east in Missouri they have persimmon that are real tiny and from what I remember a burnt orange color and super sweet. I'd love to get why hand on one of those. Yes. we have a very large variety of Oak out here. We have a large persimmon tree with those that get real soft when ripe. Not the flat persimmon. Ours are great for the bread pudding. We have a great recipe for the bread pudding handed down but I think it is still a common recipe.
@abittwisted3 жыл бұрын
Here is my little video of me grinding acorn into flour. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4jIi3eEeLh8jtk
@dylanakent2 жыл бұрын
How did people make acorn flour before the days of dehydrators and blenders?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Sun drying, and pounding them to a powder with rocks.
@phillip9451 Жыл бұрын
can we use an oven on the lowest setting to dry the acorn flour or do we need a dehydrator?
@tinalehman4591Ай бұрын
Could u use harvest right freeze dryer?
@woodswiser25132 жыл бұрын
What is the longest the leaching has taken for you? I had a batch that I changed ~5-10 times a day for 6 days and it was still bitter, did it just need more time?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
About 10 days. The amount of water that use use compared to flour you are leaching and how fine the flour is can make a huge difference in leaching time. So keep that in mind'
@nataliet81492 ай бұрын
Do you refrigerate the leeching jars? Some say do some say don't
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Once you have your leached acorn flour, what do you hope to make with it! There are so many recipes in addition to bread. :D
@abittwisted3 жыл бұрын
Mostly baked flat breads with other seed flours blended in and on occasion fruit chunks that have been dried. Im going to dry some persimmon after the acorn flour is done. I could even dry the persimmons to a bone dry state and grind that into persimmon flour to blend in with the flour.
@renedodge51852 жыл бұрын
That sounds Delicious!💕
@chrisriester79906 ай бұрын
Bro are you cageside convos?
@JDOGMACK755 ай бұрын
So how would you do it without power? Or equipment? I think boiling would be the best option
@SolesHomestead3 ай бұрын
I want to try this with my own oak trees. But how you shell all them acorns?
@alozanopas Жыл бұрын
Finaly, How do you storage the flour? you need keep on the fridge.
@AmyCooklock Жыл бұрын
Did you dehydrate/dry the acorns before you cracked them?
@tamigingrow2263 ай бұрын
Can you post the link to parts 1&2? I can’t find them
@ThatBritishHomestead3 ай бұрын
I need to try this
@isaiahzjohnson2 жыл бұрын
Question for ya if you're able: I (foolishly) missed a day in changing out my water and one of my two jars fermented a bit (i.e. bubbles rising to the surface). There isn't any off flavor or other signs of hard core spoilage, but would you abandon that jar? My intuition says it'll probably be okay.
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Sour dough is just intentional fermenting. I don’t think a bit of unintentional fermenting would be an issue! This has happened to me before and I didn’t have any ill effects.
@scooterdrue2 жыл бұрын
now you have me wondering about acorn booze and what that would be like
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
@@scooterdrue And me too! :D
@susana.esteves Жыл бұрын
fermenting it actually makes it healthier :D
@Rockyoddddy2 жыл бұрын
So I collected a second batch of acorns and the meat inside is orange inside of all of them. Is this type of acorn good? Or can it only be the white meat?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
That is perfectly fine! I find a lot of species with acorns like that.
@ShotgunLlama Жыл бұрын
What kind of acorns were those? And how do they compare to other nuts regarding their balance of starches, proteins, and oil and how it might affect how to use them?
@stephaniecaceres5164 Жыл бұрын
It's 6% protein, 15 to 25% fat and mostly carbs
@tinad681222 күн бұрын
I watched all your acorn videos, but I would like to ask a question to make sure everything is coming out okay. I had acorns that I harvested last year and dehydrated. I didn’t have time to leach until now. I am cold leaching and I’m about 4 days in. The water and flour looks kind of rosy pink. I saw yours did as well, but I think mine has more of a rosy hue. It tastes fine and the water is getting clearer, but still light rosy color. Does this sound like it’s going well? As for the starch part, I didn’t see the defining starch, so I’ll leave it the way it is and dehydrate it all after. Thank you. I appreciate your videos and work.
@Incucina360gradi2 жыл бұрын
video molto interessante sto facendo anche io la farina di ghiande sto cercando qualche consiglio per alcune ricette potresti darmi qualche dritta..un salutone e grazie mille
@marceherrera99632 жыл бұрын
I have 5 acorn trees, but the seeds looks different they are smaller than yours and more elongated.do you think could Ido the flour with this kind of acorn?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Flour can be made from any kind of acorn.
@emmamcclane3461 Жыл бұрын
Please can you tell me why we go to the effort of drying the acorns if we are then going to submerge them in water? Thank you
@FeralForaging Жыл бұрын
To make cracking easier and to preserve in shell long term
@growshakephil3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. It’s acorn season 🌰 🌰 🌰
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is! My red oaks aren’t dropping this year, but it’s a mast year for chestnut oaks.
@spencercook18412 ай бұрын
I'm getting a lot of variance in my acorns now that im cracking them open and after running them through the dehydrator for 24 hours on low. Should the meat still be white or is turning kinda brown normal? Especially around the edges...
@mariecurran93653 жыл бұрын
That's so awesome!! thx!
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome! :)
@rukiahkadir2063 Жыл бұрын
Wow 🙏👍🙏❤from Malaysia
@Lachaiim2 жыл бұрын
How do you get the brown skin (testa) off the nut meat?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
in the leaching process it generally floats to the top and is poured off, but some may be mixed in with the flour, it doesn’t ruin the taste
@dorothyczygmunt5232 Жыл бұрын
Do you refrigerate the acorns during cold leaching or keep on counter? Appreciate your input. Happy foraging 🍂🍁🌰
@jaredthompson3955 Жыл бұрын
I have cold leached several batches of acorn flour and usually keeping it on the counter top works just fine. The one thing you have to be aware of is that in warmer temperatures, the starch can start to ferment while the flour is leaching, so if you are doing this process in warmer months, it may be beneficial to refrigerate. Hope that helps!
@SeraphTheStorm. Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to dry acorns before water leaching if you are not storing your acorns ? ?
@FeralForaging Жыл бұрын
No, just makes cracking easier
@SeraphTheStorm. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JonnyBadmoon Жыл бұрын
Is there a shelf life duration to acorn flour stored in this way?
@FIVEFIVEFIVE-v1p2 жыл бұрын
Hey, super clear video, thanks! I have a question though, how long can you store the flour after processing?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
If it's perfectly dried I imagine you can store it for a very long time!
@FIVEFIVEFIVE-v1p2 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging Good to know, thanks!
@11219tt10 ай бұрын
A few questions/suggestions. 1. I feel like the blended water slurry would cause lots of nutrients to be lost. Thoughts? 2. Would a ph strip tester help determine when the water leeching is complete? 3. Would purchasing a flour grinder make the grinding faster and more consistent? Thansk for the video
@CricketsBay3 ай бұрын
Yes to all of the above.
@thephenom724 Жыл бұрын
@Feral Foraging Everytime I try to grind the flour after drying it out in the dehydrator, I always deal with some harder-to-grind pieces of dried flour. I tried putting them into a processor and I tried the mortar and pestle method. Any tips please?
@jackieswanson2254 ай бұрын
I put mine in a hand cranked coffee grinder !
@TheDeseamer2 жыл бұрын
Instead of dehydrating can you freeze dry?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
I imagine that you could. If you try it, please let me know what the results are like.
@123Cookies-v7m7 ай бұрын
Does fermentation neutralize tannins?
@CricketsBay3 ай бұрын
No. Fermentation does not neutralize tannins.
@aimenhaidra97072 жыл бұрын
I have a quation . When we make corns flour . Does it lose its nutrution value?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Inevitably some, but not all. Either way, eating them before leach just isn’t an option
@naturalfreehuman6 күн бұрын
The natives made a porridge too which, if you were to do that, would take out the drying part. i've got mine leaching now, from blue oaks, they're so sweet and barely bitter to begin with. acorns are a drought tolerant abundant food source everywhere, in california i always thought they should make granaries all over the state and have the elderly and school kids collect them in season. when things are complicated you know there's rats in the kitchen!! cheers.
@AnnOyer7771 Жыл бұрын
What, if any, acorns are better to use? Can you use any acorns from any kind of oak?
@ethanready98623 ай бұрын
Any acorns can theoretically be used, but those from the White Oak family generally have less tannins than the Red Oak family so they are considered better for consumption.
@maryenglund912 Жыл бұрын
I have followed step-by-step up to this point. My acorns came out of the dehydrator much darker in color, which you said was ok. I added at least as much water as acorns, but after several batches, I burned out my blender. Consistency of acorns themselves was like stone ground mustard (plus water). I’m only one third into grinding and have to buy a new blender. Really frustrated. Wishing I had not started this project, but I have already spent so much time on it, I hate to throw in the towel. Your thoughts?
@FeralForaging Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you’ve run into trouble. Two ideas come to mind. 1-make sure to let the acorns rehydrate and get soft before trying to blend them. 2-if your blender is having trouble, add even more water. However much it takes to be easier on the blender. You really can’t add too much because you’ll pour it off in the end anyway. Also maybe your blender blades aren’t able to get the acorns fine enough.
@MrFreeGman Жыл бұрын
Don't you lose a lot of nutrients by grinding the meat before leaching?
@debrabrooks6138 Жыл бұрын
Hot leeching will infuse the tannins into the flour. I cannot find your video #2
@gisellem9272 ай бұрын
Forbidden smoothie 1:48
@guadaluperoginski8287 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video. I do have one question: Should the shells be removed before drying the acorn meat or do we let the meat dry in the shells then crack them open to start the leaching process?
@crowznest438 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, acorns are very oily and prone to molding in the shells. And, if you leave them out to dry in the shell, weavils may be in them and ruin many of the nuts. If you collect a bunch and can't process immediately, putting them in the freezer will stop the mold and the weavils until you can process the nuts.
@elijahsanders3547 Жыл бұрын
You can also put the flesh in a bag and leave it in a clean running stream.
@mayamachine Жыл бұрын
fastest leeching with alcohol, 60% water 40% alcohol (vodka) at 86F to 104F in 3 hours it removes tannins, then use calcium hydrate (cal, slaked lime)to remove the tannin from the alcohol, reuse that alcohol, the tannin rich calcium hydrate can be used to tann leather or in large quantities sold to leather tanners.
@GypsyBrokenwings3 жыл бұрын
The acorns I collected were mostly wormy! Grr. Now I have a pile of them sprouting.
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
Future oaks, future acorns! :D
@dylanakent2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to hydrate the acorns before grinding, why dry them in the first place? Why not leach them when they are fresh off the tree?
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
You could, put cracking would be a real pain. I dry to make preservation and cracking easier.
@sis962211 ай бұрын
Awesome
@grumbleweed-iz8bc Жыл бұрын
People better remember how to do this, plenty of oak trees out there.
@cvspvr Жыл бұрын
JESSE! WE NEED TO COOK!
@kenmatree.3167 Жыл бұрын
I’m leaching acorns for the first time, the water just started turning reddish :)
@CricketsBay3 ай бұрын
You've probably got Red Oak acorns. It can take a lot longer to leach those. White Oak acorns generally have much less tannins.
@Androsynth752 ай бұрын
I use a new women’s nylon. Put your ground acorns in, tie off on each side of the flour, then just use it like a squeeze toy under running water until the color changes. It takes far less time and is much easier.
@Dizzybee384Ай бұрын
Ew
@jimmyburrows75092 жыл бұрын
His explanation and process seems to be feasible luckily I have two large oak trees in the back I'll have plenty of practice
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck! Feel free to ask questions here.
@dillonsnyder1172 Жыл бұрын
Squirrels punching the air rn
@TikTokFloozie3 ай бұрын
Sorry to say it but you should come to my KZbin page he did that backwards what you do it's cold leech them in water and you continue that process for days until you wake up one day and you see the water is not brown and it's nearly clear and then you boil them for a good 30 minutes to really get all the tannins out but you don't have to boil them after cold leaching them because like he said it could mess up the flower. Thank me later ❤❤
@pjones14032 ай бұрын
You made absolutely no sense as you just retraced his tracks. No thanks given!
@RICDirector3 жыл бұрын
I do wonder what you're pouring down the drain, nutritionally, beyond tannins. Is there a difference between acorn flour leached in large pieces, and that done as you describe in the video, as flour, nutritionally speaking?
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure. Where do you imagine the difference would come from?
@RICDirector3 жыл бұрын
@@FeralForaging Soluble nutrients which aren't bound to the tannins.....not sure of the chemistry, was just an intriguing question. :)
@FeralForaging3 жыл бұрын
@@RICDirector I would imagine that at the end of the day, if you've leached a certain amount of tannins and some other water-soluble components go out with it, the amount of them would same regardless of the surface area, the only difference being how long that takes! Just my guess though!
@annikahstebben4425 Жыл бұрын
One year late I know, but I bet you'd be able to use it as a mordent for dyeing natural textiles. Tannin is used in a lot of dying so it may be a neat thing to experiment with
@Psalms20A21 Жыл бұрын
🌿🌰🧠🌰🌿
@bcpdx1973 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@austinphillip2164 Жыл бұрын
Grinding it before drying will make you lose some of the starch.
@TheElectricalNut2 жыл бұрын
This is nice but you don't have to grind them into a flour to leech the tannins out you can do that right after you deshell them
@FeralForaging2 жыл бұрын
In my experience it takes way longer to leach them whole because the surface area is so much smaller.
@j.miguel6193 Жыл бұрын
all vitamins are gone with all that leaching!
@FeralForaging Жыл бұрын
Well, maybe some water soluble ones. 😅
@snowdevil00211 ай бұрын
very dangerous activities! please be careful with firearms!