FermZilla - Better Than Stainless and Far Less Expensive

[@Duci1989]

I just love how you are explaining your design and economics considerations outright in your videos. Thanks a lot for that!

[@KegLand]

Thanks Duci!

[@kosmosoahclau]

Came from China,just wanna say big thanks for your guys!You are the only one supplier in mainland China to sell top home brew kit at the cheap way.And great products,keep improving

[@KegLand]

Great to hear!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Nice Kee!! Looks like you solved every complaint about the first version and added some features in top of it!! Can't wait to check one out!! 👍🍻

[@KegLand]

Thanks Brian. Look forward to getting some over to you mate and getting some feedback from you!

[@KegLand]

Thanks Brian. When are you coming to Australia to see us?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

@@KegLand in need to do that!! That would be a heck of a Holiday!! 👍🍻

[@paskrell]

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers and then the virus came. 😢

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

@@paskrell right!

[@BEERNBBQBYLARRY]

Nice! Been looking forward to those design enhancements over the original.

[@kylecameron9772]

I work in a new winery. Even in our 160k tanks we use a 3 inch valve at the bottom. So getting some lumps out of a 27L fermenter shouldn't be an issue lol. That is as over engineered as it gets, I think I might have to finally upgrade the 23L glass carboy I've been using for the last 5 years. As someone who believes homebrewing is part artistic expression and part beer cost saving, this is soo much more suitable to the blue collar home brewer than those ridiculous stainless steel vessels and equipment that cost thousands. Each to their own, but I believe this is exactly what the humble 2019 home brewer should be looking for. Kudos

[@KegLand]

If it wasn't for the incredible blocking power of hops we could probably get away with a smaller valve but the amount of hops that people are putting into beers these days really necessitates a 3inch valve.

[@aliwilson2740]

This looks fantastic. I really think this will be a game-changer much in the same way as The Grainfather has been. You've really thought about it from the brewer's point of view, added loads of genuinely useful features, and the price point is perfect. If only we had a homebrew store in Scotland that was as innovative as you guys. Thankfully we can get your stuff here. I will definitely dropping some serious hints to my wife in the coming months.

[@KegLand]

Thanks for that Ali. Really appreciate it.

[@boojea10981]

Hahaha 5” is enough ask my wife! Looks like another great product! Great work as always.

[@KegLand]

Thanks James! Really appreciate it.

[@stihl888]

AWESOME!!! I picked mine up on Monday from the KEGLAND store and have a Zombie Dust clone fermenting away as we speak. It was awesome to come home after work tonight (24 hrs later) to see the yeast rolling around inside the fermenter happy as a pig in shit!!! It wasn't the best fit in my fermenter fridge but after some clever cutting (of the fridge not the fermenter) and removal of unwanted gauges and temp controllers it fits like a glove now. I can see the work you guys have put into this and am looking forward to the "Add-ons" to come. I've also added the pressure kit and spunding valve kit to the fermenter and it's working as planned...

[@KegLand]

Nice one. Look forward to hearing how you go. We will do some videos with the accessories soon. Cheers!

[@rufusdugumphry4405]

You guys have the best gear. Always something new and innovative/helpful. Makes me wish I lived in Australia with Gash Slug. Hahaha. Keep up the great work.

[@KegLand]

Sounds like you need to come and visit Australia and see us.

[@tonyluke4666]

I'm buying 4 as soon as they arrive in NZ .love it!!

[@aidanhill]

Tony Luke who is bringing them into NZ?

[@KegLand]

We already have a shipment that is on it's way to NZ to these guys: www.brewshop.co.nz/fermentasaurus-fermenter.html So they should be available soon.

[@KegLand]

I think the first ones in NZ will arrive to brewshop.co.nz so keep an eye on those guys.

[@Majortotheworld]

Can these be used for Wine Fermenting on the grape skins?

[@tomohawk46]

Man this looks awesome. Was going to invest in full stainless Unitank but this is tempting!

[@KegLand]

We do have some stainless steel tanks arriving soon too but to be honest the ability to see what's going on inside the vessel is a hugh benefit. There is a possibility the new stainless tanks might be able to connect to the same collection container in future too.

[@anthonyhernandez7694]

I see so many negative reviews/remarks about this fermenter. From my personal experience it's a fantastic fermenter. It does what I want - enables me to dump yeast without moving to a secondary vessel, it enables me to fermenter under pressure, and most importantly it enables me to perform closed transfers. I see remarks about how hard it is to clean without getting scratches, there are several ways to clean plastic without scratching the product. Try micro fiber cloth, it works great. If you are worried about UV light then cover the fermenter or invest in a insulated jacked. A lot of the negative reviews are regarding issues that can be prevented by the user. If you don't like the product, don't give give it a negative review, especially if you haven't used it.

[@DRUNKBUNTA]

I cant wait to get my hands on this. I got a kegland kegerator and now a brewzilla... i need this next! I love kegland products for my homebrewing hobby :)

[@KegLand]

Thanks for your support. It is a good bit of gear. Happy brewing!

[@ashagon]

I like this very much. I was going to quit buying more beer making stuff, but this would be great.

[@KegLand]

Quit buying more beer stuff!? Are you sure? We have so much cool new stuff that we are working on.

[@fleauscm]

Design comment: @ 8:30 you change the position of the valve. It would be nice if the Fermzilla cold be locked into the stainless steel frame to make adjusting the valve easier. It might be different when filled with liquid, but it would still be nice to be able to lock it into place to feel more confident in the hand. Also would make unscrewing the bottom part easier if the Fermzilla didn't rotate in the frame while you're trying to turn it.

[@ALI-159xd]

There is a strap that you can buy separately to keep it in place

[@Maineicefishingenthusiast]

Just got mine. Can’t wait to brew a batch!!!!

[@the4thj]

I love Keg Land stuff!

[@KegLand]

Thanks you!

[@kjgig097]

Looks pretty well thought out.

[@jasonhalvorsen1248]

I’m excited to get my Fermzilla this week. The one thing I can’t get my head around is if the vessel is under pressure when you drop the trub won’t the collection cup be pressurized when you remove it?

[@Duci1989]

A year later, but anyways he addresses it in the vid. Close the butterfly, lightly unscrew the cap on the side of the bottom container to relieve pressure, then unscrew the whole thing.

[@leehonhoreShutUpAL]

5 inches is enough LMAO

[@IndigoVagrant]

He went there. Funny guy.

[@JoshOB21]

I have a fermzilla unitank. I love the pressure ferment and serving without transferring to a stainless keg... however.. Its very bulky and means I can't serve with a second keg in my fridge.. is there any non conical plastic designs that are more corny keg shaped that can ferment and serve over 20L?

[@KegLand]

Yes absolutely. If you need something more compact you should try the FermZilla All rounder

[@davec4955]

I've been using the 27l fermzilla for over a year and although I really like it I may need to replace the tank in the near future. However I don't really use the collection jar. I know there's the all-rounder but I do prefer the conical design. It would be great if you can supply my replacement tanks before the hole is cut in the bottom !! Also I know the stand for the all-rounder is different but will the all-rounder a tank fit nicely on the fermzilla 27l stand ?

[@18centwood]

This looks great. What is the life expectancy of the unit especially pressurized? If limited, I think I'll go with stainless as it will last. If no issue, this is a no brainer.

[@KegLand]

2 years at the time of manufacturing and then its a good idea to do a hydro test every 12 months or so.

[@Fidelity101flies]

Please tell me how you transfer beer that has been dry hopped! I'm using your system and it's been great, BUT...the ball locks get jammed up during the pressure transfer to the keg because of all the floating hops. I'm not able to cold crash so (like other users I'm sure) I'm looking for a filter that goes inline with the pressure transfer system. Please point me in the right direction.

[@Duci1989]

Maybe use a hop sock or hop egg?

Plastic carbonation caps do not look like to be compatible with fermzilla collection jar. It did not hold liquid even without pressure. When I hand tightened cap collection jar cracked at threads at multiple places.

[@keiranwatts3159]

I think I could use this as a fermenter for my grain wash.

[@KegLand]

Yes this should work.

[@iamonky]

just purchased the fermzilla 55l and i am really excited. what is the best way to move the full vessel from one room to another. will the allrounder straps work here?

[@KegLand]

We prefer having it mounted up on a dolly.

[@ChaosAI24]

So the stainless you have to buy again after 2 years? Does the stainless has cleaning problems in the cone like this one? No, of course not!

[@nadohawk]

So I have only brewed beer so far, but want to start brewing carbonated hydromels and this looks to be a great choice to do so. Would this fermenter absorb any flavors from mead? I have heard Tiger Tiger in San Diego had to replace a line after putting a mead on tap.

[@KegLand]

The PET will not react or absorb flavours from mead. We already have a number of customers already using these for mead.

[@nadohawk]

KegLand Thanks. I just got my fermenter today and it didn’t come with the lid handles (just the ones attached to the stand). Is this an extra part to purchase for the lid handles?

[@KegLand]

@@nadohawk The stainless handles are sold as a separate part but after the 19th of this month we will start getting them with handles and the price will go up slightly as a result.

[@glennegan6613]

Looks great Kee. You say it will fit in a wifi fridge but will it fit in the series 4 kegerator?

[@KegLand]

We have modified some Series 4 units to fit but this is a big job. Better for you to wait until the end of the year and use the Wifi fermenting fridge with heating and cooling. This will be awesome!

[@LloydGM]

Sounds great, but another reviewer said there's a warning label on the tank that says to not use it under pressure after 2 years. Do these fermenters actually only have a 2 year lifespan? If so, do you plan to make one that lasts longer? If not, it's steel for me. I'd really like to try a FermZilla, but a short lifespan is a real deal-breaker for me.

[@KegLand]

these can last infinitely. In order to use longer than 2 years you just need to do a hydro test. that's all you need to do. The hydrotest is really easy all you need is water and a bike pump and it takes about 2 minutes.

[@LloydGM]

@@KegLand Far out, faith restored. Now it's just waiting for a kit to go on sale. :D

[@Saviero11]

Hello, I am going to buy 4x 55 l version. Any idea, what is real lifetime (how many years) of this plastic item? It will be stored in dark place all the time and 10 - 20 celsia. Thank you, good job

[@KegLand]

They can be used under pressure for up to 2 years after manufacturing. After which it is a good idea to hydro test every 12 months.

[@pow06er]

You mention dry hopping with the bottom container. Would the method be to pitch the yeast with the valve closed and then when ready add the canister with hops and open the valve? How would one remove the hops later on? Or am I missing something? I’m confused as to how to dry hop while under pressure and not have an explosion of foam.

[@KegLand]

Most people would pitch the yeast using the opening at the top. If you are making a yeast starter though you can make the starter in the collection container and then just open the valve and the yeast will find it's way up into the fermenter fairly quickly. If at this stage you want to add additional oxygen you can also fit the carbonation cap and the carbonation stone to the post on the collection container and give it a shot of oxygen too and this will bubble up through the collection container and into the fermemter body. When dry hopping you can also use the collection container and put hops into the collection container and the hops will tend to float up into the body of the fermenter and then after about 1 day they will start to sink back down into the collection container.

[@pow06er]

KegLand thank you! So if I was dry hopping on day 2 of fermentation when I go to remove the spent dry hops I’m likely taking a canister of trub with me?

[@KegLand]

@@pow06er Hello Paul. If you want to dry hop then you should remove yeast and trub before you dry hop. that is what most people would do.

[@curtpick628]

Isn't this good for pressure fermentation for only upto 2 years? A novel system for the price point, I agree. But better than stainless might be a stretch. Regardless, I may invest in one.

[@KegLand]

Absolutely! Thanks for your comment.

[@TheTorqueMusic]

Why are the freesbie not included in the kit? :-D I would really have liked on ;-)

[@KegLand]

Pop into the store and I am sure we can find something for you.

[@TheTorqueMusic]

@@KegLand Well.. Live in Denmark, so it will be a while until I'll pop by :-) But thank's anyway ;-)

[@lekcom62]

Kee thankyou mate looks great

[@KegLand]

Thanks mate. Appreciate it.

[@xuedalong]

I'm struggling to disassemble the dump valve - the tightening valve thread seems to be gone so turning the dump valve to unscrew also just turns the inside cone - any advice?

[@KegLand]

It might be best to take some photos or video and send to us so we can assist you more easily.

[@loganramsey1957]

What are your thoughts on using this with sours in addition to regular ales/ lagers

[@KegLand]

That's no issue at all but just make sure you clean thoroughly when going from sours then back to regular ales/largers. IF you want to be really safe you should probably just purchase one for sours and only use it for sours so you do not get cross contamination.

[@kmcwillie]

What is the maximum safe temperature that the body of the fermentor can reasonably withstand? I use silicone 100 watt adhesive heat pads on my stainless fermentors (one on each unit), but I am thinking of increasing my capacity and am considering one of these units in 14 gallon. I would like to be able to use the same process heating.

[@KegLand]

It's important to understand the difference between safe temperature at no pressure and safe temperature at pressure. Of the Fermzilla is not under pressure you can take them up to 55C. If however you are using it pressurised then you should not exceed 35C. 400watt sounds way too powerful. I would have thought that 20-50 watts would be plenty.

[@kmcwillie]

@@KegLand thanks for the quick response. Turns out my heaters are actually 100 watt. Not sure why I had the 400 watt number in my head. I'm going to run some tests with thermocouples and see what my actual surface temperatures are during heater operation.

[@mayongmd]

Very nice fermenter! Will this fit in a kegland 4 kegerator? Thanks!

[@KegLand]

Thanks. If you remove the collection container and then turn the stand upside down you can make it fit. But really the best options are to either: Buy the new fermenter that will be launched soon that doesnt have a dump valve and this fits in really easily. Or alternatively you can purchase the fermenting fridge that will have heating and cooling and come out at the end of the year. So I think these are both better options that squeezing this into the keg fridge.

[@mayongmd]

Thanks KegLand

[@LouB3rt]

What’s the highest safe PSI I can put in the tank? I plan on carbonating at room temperature for a couple weeks. I have the floating dip tube attachment- So I assume I just attach the Co2 to the other top post. I didn’t ferment under pressure.

[@KegLand]

The Fermzilla's are rated to 35 psi but it is not a requirement that you ferment this high. I have comfortably fermented lagers at 15 to 20 psi in the past and not had any issues.

[@LouB3rt]

@@KegLand thank you for reply! I actually fermented the old fashioned way with a blow off tube. I am trying to carbonate the beer at room temperature because I don’t have a system to cool this much beer before canning. I have it at 25 psi hoping it will carbonate the beer in the fermenter. So far I love the versatility of this product.

[@rickchilders4256]

Mine doesn’t have the handles on the fermenter body, is it supposed to?

[@digitaldamo]

Unfortunately, Can't get your stuff here in Japan, will be looking for alternate ways

[@KegLand]

We have a complete list of distributors on the website.

[@mezz2710]

You can put boiling water in the collection cup, what about the main body will that be ok with boiling water?

[@toothpik00]

No, they tried, but couldn't make that happen. If you don't have the ability to cool your wort, perhaps go the "no-chill cube" method. Seems to be very popular and works well.

[@KegLand]

@@toothpik00 At the moment the tank is not temperature rated but it's highly likely that we release a tank upgrade so you can replace the standard one that comes with the kit with a high temperature tank that can take boiling water. This is in the pipeline but not finished yet.

[@RPR147]

I wonder if a ball valve was considered

[@KegLand]

It was but not really practical. We might have a new design out very soon!

[@TheHeraldOfChange]

Hey Kee, dunno where to add this. You need to get your Taobao Store in China sorted out. Seriously. With the release of the Tri-clamp Fermzilla, they had a promotion for the old stock. This promotion included the chiller coil, thermowell, and floating dip tube and all the bits for a decent price, yet the product on arrival did not include any of these extras. Nothing in the promo said accessories sold separately. It might be China, but its still false advertising and you're the bunny where the buckshot stops! This is not the only misfortunate purchase I had from your Taobao store either. I also purchased a 2200W Thermosyphon. You know what 2200W means, don't you? All the advertising includes a 2200W element on display, yet on delivery it had no heating element. There was no 2200W anything, just stainless steel pipe and clamps! Now, don't get me wrong, I AM a fan, but this sort of nonsense, even in a Chinese Online Store, is not right, no way, no how. Enjoy your day.

[@KegLand]

The Taobao stores are run by a different group. I would probably recommend going to one of our distributors who are a bricks and mortar store and you will get more consistent level of customer service and support. Which country are you based in?

[@TheHeraldOfChange]

@@KegLand I'm an Australian based in Shanghai, China. Most of us in the Home/Craft Beer Community are fans of your products. All of us buy via Taobao. From my last observation, there are three online stores using the Kegland name, of which only one has been a misfortunate debacle. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

[@theculturebrewingchannel5619]

Can i use a heat pad/ belt to ferment with kveik?

[@erichlf]

Unfortunately that 131F is a hard limit on this thing. I wish I realized that the limit was 131F before I put in 140F wort. I definitely won't be using it for pressurized fermentation after that.

[@KegLand]

If you are concerned just fill with water and do a pressure hydro test. This is easy to do with a bike pump and will confirm the vessel is still safe for pressure. So I would do this as it's fast and will confirm the safety of the device.

[@erichlf]

@@KegLand i have two, so one is now for no pressure.

[@travisadams8628]

Can I force carbonate after a non pressurized fermentation?

[@KegLand]

Yes absolutely. Just remember the pressure rating is 2.5bar so just force carbonate at this pressure or lower.

[@paul.b1730]

I am an ideas man, would love to see a Fermzilla (especially the Allrounder shape) made from HDPE materials like the no-chill cubes so as to directly transfer from the boil for no-chill brewing!

[@KegLand]

HDPE is good as it can handle more heat but the issue with HDPE is it's very porous and can harbor microorganisms in the wall. Also HDPE has very high oxygen transmission rate which is not ideal and also due to the porosity of the plastic tends to have flavor and aroma carry over from batch to batch.

[@Evan-mh7it]

where or when do you think we can buy in the states?

[@KegLand]

You can get these from www.morebeer.com You might have to wait a couple more weeks for the stock to arrive to them but it's on the way.

[@mikepapadelta3259]

What's this Wifi fridge your talking about?

[@KegLand]

You might have to wait to hear more about his product. We hopefully will release this product at the end of the year. It's basically like a fermentation chamber that will heat and cool, log up to the internet and you can set temperature profiles etc. It's best that you wait and we will release more information in the future about this.

[@liamwindsor5854]

Any update on the wifi fridge?

[@MrYakuzz]

hello, where to buy it in europe with shipment to Poland?

[@KegLand]

Best to check with a local distributor. www.kegland.com.au/distributor

[@JohnnyReverse]

Im confused as to how you use a heating belt with the jacket..

[@KegLand]

Just around the fermenter below the liquid line.

[@ttjarrett]

I'd love to know the R&D costs on something like this, the tooling alone must cost megabucks! Well done guys, excellent looking product.

[@KegLand]

Yes the tooling cost is significant. We did not just purchase moulds, we purchased a whole new blow moulding production line but we are going to use the same blow moulding machine for a number of other fermenter and keg designs.

[@thijsv.r.964]

Is there already a releasedate of the fermzilla 55l gen 2 for Europe? Can't find it on the world wide web.

[@KegLand]

We already have some orders to Europe but they will take a while to arrive as it's a long way on the boat.

[@KegLand]

Very soon we will have stock arrive to: angelhomebrew.co.uk www.olbrygging.no www.brewolution.com www.brouwland.com

[@thijsv.r.964]

Thanks a lot for your answer. I already contacted my nearest kegland supplier and preordered one! Thanks

[@KegLand]

We have this product: www.kegland.com.au/bottle-filler-beer-gun.html We are also working on some other options too but this is the best option on this stage.

[@andrewmcnamara9413]

Great idea but mine leaks.

[@BrotherRobb]

When will these be available in NZ? Been waiting since January..

[@KegLand]

You will have to check with www.brewshop.co.nz

[@iphunter3498]

Thanks man, but please help me get this in India. Tired of searching! So badly need this brother...

[@KegLand]

I am sure some local distributors should be able to help. You can take a look here: www.kegland.com.au/distributor

[@keithf6353]

Can you get this in the states?

[@HumeAndBean]

Put a link in the description Keithy.

[@KegLand]

Good idea. We have just done this. Thanks for the tip!

[@toddcoffey6535]

only thing missing is a sample port. Can one be added?

[@KegLand]

You can add a rotating rack arm and we are just working on a new design of rotating rack arm that you can retro=fit. With that said I personally think you are just better off getting the floating dip tube and taking samples using the floating dip tube instead.

[@darylshields2587]

what is the best way to get a sample for a final gravity read?

[@KegLand]

One of the best ways to get a sample is one of these really big syringes: www.amazon.com.au/Etbotu-Reusable-Syringes-Cleaning-Measuring/dp/B07BFX8DNF/ref=asc_df_B07BFX8DNF/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341774172700&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18359019064564521523&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071266&hvtargid=pla-815290027844&psc=1 You can also extend the nozzle with a bit of beer line that works well too.

[@Duci1989]

Wouldn’t it be easy to get a floating dip tube, ball lock, a tiny bit of evabarrier tube and a picnic tap, and just tap a sample that way? No oxygen introduced that way.

[@boojea10981]

I recently switched all of my beer lines over to your duo-tight setup mostly because it’s awesome and works great, but also partly because of what you mentioned about plasticizers in regular beer line. Are there any concerns related to this being made from plastic? Also, if one were to run a heated CIP cycle of PBW through this after fermentation would 140f (60C) be an acceptable temperature?

[@KegLand]

Hello James. This fermenter and all pretty much everything that we sell is plasticizers and BPA free. The FermZilla is made from PET so it's completely safe to use and we use this tank ourselves. The tank is not suitable for temperatures above 50C so please make sure to use slightly cooler water in your CIP as 60C is a bit too high. We will most likely be releasing a high temperature tank later this year so you can use this for higher temperatures if you upgrade the tank.

[@boojea10981]

@@KegLand I figured you thought that through about using PET. Looking forward to seeing the high temp version as well as the fridge that is in the works. Cheers!

[@africantwin173]

I think that a small full stainless steel unitank with cip will sell better in EU. PTFE ,PET, Plastic is not durable for the long run, and a pita to clean without leaving marks , scratches to it.

[@KegLand]

Yes we do have some new designs of stainless ones that will come into stock soon. With that said they dont hold as much pressure and you can't see what's going on inside. So you have pro's and con's of each different type.

[@christopherpham4292]

Is there any info out there for the WiFi fermenter fridge? I can’t find anything about it

[@KegLand]

We will have a lot more information on this product toward the end of the year. Sorry you will have to wait a bit longer.

[@christopherpham4292]

KegLand are you able to provide any info right now? I just received my fermzilla and I’m not sure if I want to wait a few months to brew my first batch with a ferm chamber. Will it be avail to US customers? Price range?

[@KegLand]

@@christopherpham4292 Sorry we have not started to promote the Wifi Fermenting fridge yet. In fact we are not even supposed to be talking about it. Yes we have a 110v model for America but you really have to wait for us to officially release more information before we give too much away.

[@luisf.canorivera8753]

I need one!

[@MrWolfgang2]

Why Is under pressure better?

[@Shreddah]

Higher fermentation temps without off flavours. Faster fermentation. Less oxygen, which means lower risk of oxidizing beer. Oxygen free transfer to keg is easier. Beer gets naturally carbonated during fermentation. The advantages are many.

[@KegLand]

More than under pressure, I like the fact that you can do a closed transfer into a keg post fermentation.

[@EnuffsEnuff318]

Couldn't break apart the bottom fitting.

[@KegLand]

It's best to send us some photos of what you are doing and which bit is stuck and we will be able to find a solution for you.

[@davidpretorius4821]

I bought one of these, as yet I have not been able to use it as a pressure fermenter because it leaks co2. It's a waste of time and money.

[@assyriansomar9592]

Send some to Norway please😀

[@KegLand]

You might want to talk to the guys at olbrygging.no I believe they are considering placing an order at the moment

[@HighVoltageBrewery]

Nice, gone buy both this and cannular and then make a close to zero oxygen NEIPA 🍻

[@KegLand]

That is every brewers mission. I think a lot of brewers still are not aware of how oxygen sensitive beer but it's so important for beer quality.

[@RyanKirk99]

I have Fermentasaurus and stainless conicals. They both have their pros and cons. I do like to see the fermentables. Price is definitely an advantage upfront. But my stainless ones will last a lifetime. Can't say that about plastic. Ditch the annoying music please.

[@KegLand]

Yes that's fair to say. The stainless steel will probably outlast the plastic. With that said in 5 years from now we will probably have even better new design features and most likely we would have another model available by that point. We do sell replacement plastic tanks at a very low cost and but the speed of which the home brewing industry is changing you might find that it's just easier to upgrade the product when new technology becomes available rather than spending all your cash upfront only to find that brewing techniques and hardware has moved. Going back 20 years we saw conical fermenters made with ball valves instead of butterfly valves, we used to see stainless fermenters that had no way of holding any pressure at all, spunding valves basically didn't exist and customers were brewing with far less hops. So the gear needs to change to suit the trends, new innovative ideas, and the more we learn about brewing the better the gear gets.

[@leroygross9144]

I like it👍.🍺🍻

[@shaunanderson8282]

'you can ask my wife' hahahaha

[@nancynoll9055]

More sexist crap yuk also he contently says guys as an award winning female brewer I guess I won’t be using the guys fermenter it’s 2020 haha not 1952

[@tedschuurmans]

Nice video, but skip the music while you're talking please ..

[@4figgis957]

Dump the music it adds nothing.

[@KegLand]

Fair call. I have been thinking the same think. Might just make it more difficult to hear what's being said.

[@jacklee9172]

they’re not better than aluminium though are they...

[@KegLand]

Given that many people are using acid, caustic and other chemical based products in brewing Aluminium would be a terrible idea.

[@nuyabiss]

I don't know I like my SS brewtech 3 1/2 gallon fermenter conical ss for 120$

[@2F51RL]

LOL 5 inches is enough. Maybe for most of us, but Popeye would be struggling to get in.

[@harambeexpress]

Stop. I'm broke. I can't have you giving me all these ideas.

[@KegLand]

Well if you want a free one you can win one on the KegLand Home Brew Community Group: facebook.com/groups/KegLandHomeBrewCommunityGroup/?fref=mentions&__tn__=K-R

[@imnille3989]

You talking top loud. I vant hear the music right.

[@wreckagebrewingco8298]

Better than stainless? Cheaper and lighter doesn't make it better.

[@KegLand]

Yes I would agree. Cheaper and lighter is not the major selling point. The major benefits are really: 1. You can see the fermentation process is a huge one and not possible with stainless 2. The dump valve is larger than most stainless fermenters 3. The collection container is a better design that most stainless fermenters 4. This can handle pressures that are higher that most other competing stainless conical units So i would say that these 4 things are really the main advantage over most stainless fermenters no so much the weight and cost. So we would agree with you on that.

[@DouglasPendletonintherealms]

Send me one........okay.I tried lol.

[@djt02]

It’s not better than stainless. It’s a pain in the ass to assemble/disassemble. Just got TC

[@KegLand]

The new TC model is really quite easy to dissasemble.

[@carlkessler303]

Nice rundown, terrible music.

[@stadtrandkollektiv7498]

Why is plastic better than stainless? The container of the Fermzilla cannot be used under pressure for more than two years... More microplastic in oceans...

[@KegLand]

The FermZilla can be used for many years. You can use it for 20 years if you want to however you will just have to do a hydro test after two years from the manufacturing date. The hydro test is easy to do and you should also be doing a hydro test on stainless steel fermenters too. If stainless steel was clear and you could see the fermentation in action I would totally agree that there would be no need for the Fermzilla, but alas nobody has been able to make clear stainless steel yet. Microplastics in the oceans caused by fermzilla tanks is a potential problem but to solve this we would ask that customers do not disposed of an old fermzilla in the sea or waterways. Please use a proper recycling facility. If you do not have one close to you return the PET container back to kegland and we will ensure the container gets recycled rather than thrown into the ocean.

[@xnrv]

Terrible design of the bottom part, at last In my opinion. I find it imposible to dismount to proper wash.

[@KegLand]

The reverse thread on the dump valve is what throws people off.

[@markwilliams5654]

now make it of glass instead of cheap plastic

[@IanTriggs]

Fermenting under pressure in glass?

[@KegLand]

@@IanTriggs That's our thoughts exactly. We would never make this size pressure vessel in glass. It would be way too dangerous.

[@2F51RL]

Septic tanks and their effen glass. SMH

[@jasonstone1046]

Hurry up and get some stock ya muppets 🤣

[@KegLand]

Sorry about that. The next shipment is only a couple weeks away.

[@jasonstone1046]

KegLand “only”.. 🤣😂

[@BestMeMotivation]

5 inch is enough 🤣, are we talking of length or diameter 😬

[@KegLand]

Haha whatever floats your boat I guess.

[@markwilliams5654]

how is plastic better than stainless ..lol mite wanna change your title...over priced plastic........that will last maybe 2 years lol

[@KegLand]

Which stainless fermenter do you own?

[@cameronb1000]

How do they compare to ypur 29ltr stainless kegmenter?

[@mikepapadelta3259]

My same thought, for me I have the Grainfather conical.

[@KegLand]

@@cameronb1000 If you want a stainless tank to ferment in that is pressure rated and you dont need a cone to dump yeast then you cant beat the Kegmenter. If however you want to see what's going on in the fermenter and also dump from the cone then I really think you can't beat the FermZilla. So it comes down to what you want to achieve.

[@KegLand]

You can't see through stainless so being able to monitor the fermentation process, make decisions on adding finnings or monitor hops settling out is more difficult. None of the standard stainless fermenters that I am aware of can go up to 2.5bar with a safety factor of 2. You can probably get one designed but not aware of this actually being available as a standard bit of kit. The dump valve is larger than most stainless fermenters that are normally sold with only 1.5inch tri-clover butterfly not 3inch. We have a number of new accessories that are also available with these that are will not be available on many of the stainless tanks. For a better comparison if you can specifically tell us which stainless fermenter you are looking at and we can do a run down on the comparison for you if you like.

[@beerman1957]

Nothing is better than stainless. Nothing.

[@KegLand]

If only we could see through stainless and injection stretch blow mould it. Then stainless would be perfect.

[@beerman1957]

@@KegLand I never said perfect. I said SS is better than any other material used in brewing. Plus I actually don't want my vessel to be clear because UV light will penetrate and I don't want my beer skunked out. Last point to make: I just bought a stainless fermenter from Anvil for LESS than your Fermenter. So, it isn't way less expensive, is it?

[@KegLand]

Thanks for bringing this up. I think it would be best to put all the information out there to answer this particular comment. In the near future we will have three different ranges of FermZilla 1. FermZilla - Conical Unitank - This one in the video 2. FermZilla - All Rounder 3. FermZilla - Flat Bottom The one in this video is the 27L FermZilla Conical Unitank and this is the most expensive of the three being $129 Australian dollars. (that's about USD$90 based on today's exchange rate). So firstly I dont think you would have purchased your ANVIL for USD$90. Secondly the Anvil fermenter is nothing like the FermZilla Conical Unitank as it doesn't have a cone you can dump out of, it doesn't have a collection container, definitely will not hold anywhere near enough pressure to carbonate in and dispense directly to tap. The ball valve has exposed threads that are arguably not sanitary and definitely ball valves in general are not a good idea on a fermenter as they have several small cavities that are hard to clean out and they are not designed to easily disassemble. With the FermZilla All Rounder this range will have an RRP of AUD$80 and this will hold pressure but have no dump valve and that works out to be about USD$55.86. The FermZilla Flat bottom Fermenter will be the cheapest of the range and this will have RRP of AUD$30 and this will be the product that will be most comparable to the Anvil. This works out to be USD$20.95 So comparing the Anvil to a conical unitank is not really a fair comparison. It should really be compared with another non pressure rated flat bottom fermenter and when compared in this way the FermZilla Flat bottom will be heaps cheaper. On the topic of light transmission it's fair to say that beer is very sensitive to light damage. In direct sunlight beer can get skunked in 15min but very few people just have the fermenter sitting outside in the sun. So more relevant would be skunking indoors. With indoor light beer will take hours to get skunked (probably more than 10 hrs as the intensity of the light is so much lower). With that said we also still would not recommend leaving the fermenter sitting near a light globe for this reason. What we would recommend to anyone with ANY fermenter is to have some type of insulated and temperature controlled environment. At a minimum this jacket would be a good idea: www.kegland.com.au/jacket-for-27l-fermzilla.html But if you really want to do a great job then I would recommend using an old fridge and using a temp controller like this: www.kegland.com.au/mkii-10-30amp-temperature-controller-heat-cool.html This can be used to turn on and off the fridge and heating device and fully control the temp of the unit. So given the fermenter should only be exposed to light for the few moments while opening and closing your fridge door or putting the jacket on and off I would say it should be easy to limit the indoor light exposure to under 5 hrs which is well within the taste threshold of when skunking would be anywhere noticeable. With that said we are open to further discussion if you have further comments on this topic.