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Bent's Woodworking

Bent's Woodworking

Күн бұрын

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@joelluesse4408
@joelluesse4408 4 ай бұрын
Bought the ct 26 many years ago with the reusable bag and realize now it's the best woodworking purchase I ever made. Super dependable, keeps dust out of my clients' homes and more importantly out of my lungs.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DavidATakes
@DavidATakes 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I've got two CT 26 extractors and am very close to buying a third and final one. I will have of them topped with the Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy for capturing all of the dust and chips. This combination is amazing.
@POLPO_WOOD
@POLPO_WOOD 4 ай бұрын
@@DavidATakes do you still use a bag in the ct26 or only the filter with the dust deputy?
@DavidATakes
@DavidATakes 4 ай бұрын
@@POLPO_WOOD The Oneida catches almost all of the dust. The little bit that gets by has to go somewhere, that is what the bag is for. Since so little gets to the bag they last an extremely long time.
@davidlloyd2831
@davidlloyd2831 4 ай бұрын
My first Festool product was the TS 75 Track saw 17 years ago. I recommend a track saw and track as the number 1 tool. Second tool would be a sander along with the number three tool dust extractor. Kapex could easily be top three in place of the sander.
@kenmerrick1235
@kenmerrick1235 17 күн бұрын
While I have extreme lust for a domino my first festool purchase back in May was the Midi dust extractor. No regrets! Sanding and my tracksaw are practically dust free now.
@NWGR
@NWGR 4 ай бұрын
Before I get to my own list, you nailed in the domino section with some people wanting the benefits without all the work of hand tooling. For me, the woodworking aspect is fun and I enjoy the process, but really it's still just a means to an end, that end being the project itself, not the process of getting there. I'm even adding a small CNC to my shop to automate some of the things that take up my time in the shop. My personal list: 1. Yep, agree completely. Dust extractor. Ideally purchased with another tool to get the benefits of both, but if one at a time is the only path, still a dust extractor. It can be used with any tool with the right adapter, and the festool extractors are amazing. I went with the CT Midi I along with the bluetooth remote and absolutely love it. I also bought the cleaning kit with the 36mm hose. But yeah, you nailed it with putting the extractor at #1. 2. Yep. The same sander you showed, the ETS EC 150/5. It's a workhorse. It can be pretty aggressive yet still excellent for fine finish sanding as long as you're cautious and aware of how aggressive it can be. Along with all the other reasons you mentioned as well. 3. This is where I differ from your list; for me it's a tracksaw. I went with the TS 55 FEQ with 55" track and also bought a 32" track. No regrets there. It's an amazing tool. I use my tablesaw far less now that I have my tracksaw. Just for a bit more insight, I'll give my #4 and #5 as well, but neither of them are festool, but still work well within the festool system. 4. A Dowelmax. Domino accuracy, ease of use and joint strength, just a bit slower (though not by a ton), far cheaper than a domino yet still not a cheap tool. Having my Dowelmax has been the only thing preventing me from getting a domino. It's amazing. Jessem makes a nice doweling jig too, but I still chose the Dowelmax for the integrated clamping and because it's a bit easier and more intuitive to use. 5. A Parf Guide MK II. As amazing as the festool MFT is, I just felt that this was one of those instances where I could build better than what is offered for sale, and the Parf Guide has helped me achieve that. I've made several tops with it in different sizes so it's effectively paid for itself. I actually thought an MFT would be in your list. Anyhow, excellent video to open up a worthwhile discussion Mr. Bent! Well done.
@JK-pe6ft
@JK-pe6ft 4 ай бұрын
The first Festool tool I bought was the dust extractor, not because I was looking to get into Festool, but because I was looking for a great dust extractor. The second one was the 150mm ETS EC 150/5 sander. It took me a while to make the decision because of the price, but once I used it for the first time, I was amazed at what an upgrade it was on my Dewalt sander.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@cuebj
@cuebj 4 ай бұрын
I've been having various friends and relatives suggest I try supplementing my pension by restoring and refurbishing old furniture - there are numerous YT videos by folk who do it here in UK. They say how I have made stuff and how I have plenty of tools and a decent sized (for UK London) workshop. But... my tools are based on gutting and refitting our current house so more about construction than furniture. I'd have to invest in at least M-Class dust extraction, air filtration, suitable tools, especially sanders. In younger days, I wouldn't have paid so much attention to dust. Now, I'm at least as concerned for dust in my clothes affecting our grandchildren and very impressed with the change of worldviews about dust control compared with older days. That said, I did, recently sand down and re-finish (with boiled linseed oil) a wooden high chair for our granddaughter - worked out great and daughter now asking for more furniture jobs as well as wardrobes
@Flatlandflyer
@Flatlandflyer 4 ай бұрын
I love, love, love, my 150/5 sander!
@kenco7560
@kenco7560 4 ай бұрын
Great advice Jason. When I first got into woodworking, I found a small woodworking shop an hour away that I visited. They also teach woodworking. So they had tools and experience to share with me. They also had a very nice Festool display. I was able to try some tools, and even though I did not buy any Festool at that time, it helped me decide to buy Festool tools and I’ve never regretted it.
@nathangardner772
@nathangardner772 4 ай бұрын
I got the hkc first. That thing is still in its own class. Two days ago I just got “ANOTHER” 75” track. Everything else in between. In my van I have a 76” deep drawer that cantilevers out of the back doors 56” Inside that, but not extending past, I have 60” linear slides. On the slides is the csc sys 50. So you fold the barn doors all the way against the van and there levitates the tablesaw 😊
@farshadmh
@farshadmh 4 ай бұрын
As a professional woodworker of 25 years, and a heavy user of Festool (pretty much everything they’ve made) for 21 (and now also Mafell) and a bit of a tool nut (very best and most appropriate tool for each task) I agree with you 100%…. And really well done for explaining your reasons so well, spot on…. Great watch, subscribed 👍
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@cliftonmadden1992
@cliftonmadden1992 4 ай бұрын
I recently purchased a CT 26 E to replace the huge Craftsman vacuum I used for 20 years. My shop is only 240 square feet, so space is at a premium. The CT takes up a lot less space, the hose is amazing and I purchased the Bluetooth module, which I love. I also got the floor cleaning kit and the foam filter in case I need to use it as a wet vacuum. I’m looking at one of the routers for my next Festool. Great video. Thanks!
@erickdanielsson6710
@erickdanielsson6710 4 ай бұрын
Good Video, Thanks. 1)Sander 2)TS55 Track saw 3)Dust Extractor 4) 1010 router w/LR32
@Billy_bSLAYER
@Billy_bSLAYER 4 ай бұрын
Their Oscillating Multi Tool is insane also!! Check it out!
@alholston-smith7631
@alholston-smith7631 4 ай бұрын
Likewise, my first Festool,purchase was into the Festool System. I first saw the Festool System at a woodworking tool show a Japan Woodworker, in Alameda CA, one of Festool’s first dealers on the West Coast. There I met Festool America’s then CEO Christian, and purchased the MFT 800 table, CT22 and a TS55. I then added a couple of,Festool,sanders and the OF1010 router to give me a basic job kit, I was using on site doing boat interior repair/restoration work. The whole package was very portable and easy to set up on site at boat yards. Accuracy and clean cuts was very important to the fine joinery I was doing. Cheers
@papajohn6956
@papajohn6956 4 ай бұрын
Great list! I will say for most beginners the sander and dust extractor are usually combo buys, but even at the high price it has been my best quality of life upgrade with the amount of sanding that I do. Also for me the domino and track saw are close for me but for a beginner the domino does help so much with alignment it’s tough to beat.
@cerberus2881
@cerberus2881 4 ай бұрын
Thoroughly reasoned and well planned based on deep personal experience. I never miss Bent's videos and I've never regretted my Festool purchases.
@buzztrip84
@buzztrip84 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much for this video. My first Festool was the TS 55. Then I bought the domino 500 and a Festool hose for my shop vacuum. I have been looking at a Festool sanders, my dewalt is not cutting it. I understand I can’t get a sander without dust collection and I’m saving for both and this video has reassured my decision.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@firewrx612
@firewrx612 4 ай бұрын
I went with the dust extraxctor, sander and track saw first. I don't have a Domino yet, but that's probably my next purchase. Totally agree that the dust extractor is the single most critical piece of the system.
@hutchbicpl
@hutchbicpl 4 ай бұрын
DF500 was the first tool from festool it saves so much time in not having to make setuop marks
@JCMoorer
@JCMoorer 4 ай бұрын
Same. 1. Dust extractor. 2. Sander. 3. Domino 500. Runner-up: Track saw (55).
@MaxShaffer
@MaxShaffer 4 ай бұрын
💯
@RaySchwanenberger
@RaySchwanenberger 4 ай бұрын
I agree with your #1 and #2 picks. My first tools were a dust extractor and sander. For my personal needs at the time my #3 was the TS55 track saw and two FS1400 tracks. Great video!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MikevanAlst
@MikevanAlst 4 ай бұрын
Same here!
@user-us6vw7in9z
@user-us6vw7in9z 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts as well. Especially if this is geared towards beginner/intermediate wood workers. Saw over Domino
@bw162
@bw162 4 ай бұрын
I bought the 3 items you have reviewed in the same order last month except I got the 26 extractor. These were my first Festool purchases. The dust extractor is amazing. It is so nimble and easy to move around and use. It easily supplements my 4” collection on the table saw base by taking away the dust from the blade guard. And unlike most shop vacs, it is extremely nimble to move around and connect to my hand tools. I hardly ever used my “shop vac” because it was so clumsy. Got the smaller sander because most all my work is on small delicate projects and a 5” is more suitable. The Domino I haven’t used yet but am really excited about putting it to work. I must be a genius!😂. With only a couple years of experience, I got the same Festool tools a pro is recommending. Maybe I should start my own KZbin channel.
@yama-kaskad
@yama-kaskad 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! You’ve 100% confirmed the name and order of the festool tools that I purchased before this video. Exactly! I’ld also add #4 Kapex 120 and #5 OF 1400.
@apswirl
@apswirl 2 ай бұрын
I’m definitely in the buy once/cry once stage in my life. Watching your videos have ramped up my Festool desire. Got the CT MIDI, ETS EC150/5 sander, Domino DF500, plus the Edge Router, TSV 60 (the scoring feature leaves such a holy shit cut), CXS 18, and Jigsaw. I appreciate ecosystems that work well. I have an Apple ecosystem and now a Festool ecosystem. The dust collection alone has made this $5k+ purchase worth every penny. I know it’s not for everyone but when I’m working, it’s such a pleasure now. Goodbye Ryobi! It’s been fun, even if frustrating at times! Thanks Jason!!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@apswirl
@apswirl 2 ай бұрын
Is the OF 1010 Edge Guide supposed to fit in the systainer with my Edge Router? I can’t figure out how. Festool needs videos on storing various accessories in sustainers with the relevant tools.
@bobh64
@bobh64 4 ай бұрын
NIce video, My top three beginers to Festool would be the CT15e vac the ets 125 req sander and the ts60 track saw combo. This will allow you to progress and grow.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@bothorsen4292
@bothorsen4292 4 ай бұрын
My first Festool tool was a HK55 with a 1400 rail. Because I needed a circular saw. Then I needed a new coordless drill/screwdriver, so I bought the PDC/4 (I think, no longer sold). At this time, I was hooked because of the precision of what I could do with these tools. So since then, I've added the CTM 26 (named slightly different in Europe) bought second hand, 4 other drills/screwdrivers, long reach sander, bluetooth radio, vecturo, jigsaw, angle grinder, a 2700 guide rail and a kapex 120. For the last couple of weeks, I have been wondering if I should get a ETS EC 150/5, actually, so your video came at a good time :) I will buy one this week. My approach to buying Festool has been to buy the tools as I needed to use something. It's been a while since I did any real sanding (because I've been building on the house itself, not things for it), but now I'll need to do some, so it's time for the next tool. I have two major reasons for buying Festool, and the dust extraction is one of these. The other is that the tools make it easier to do precision work for me as a hobbyist. I know they are expensive, but I also have a minor reason of just liking nice tools :)
@HighOctaneSD
@HighOctaneSD 4 ай бұрын
This is the best advice I’ve heard on Festool.
@devinreynolds-FDW
@devinreynolds-FDW 20 күн бұрын
This was a great video bent and u we’re so much fun to meet and your the best and your a great woodworker and a lot of fun to watch so thank you for posting and I will always miss meeting u and it was a lot of fun to meet u!!
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 4 ай бұрын
Great video, Jason~! My entry purchase into Festool was the ETS 125 and the CT36. I treated myself to it Christmas '22. One of THE BEST investments in my shop made to date. If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the ETS 150, as you mentioned. That little bit of difference goes a long way. Last summer, I picked up the DF 500. Another great purchase~! I'm in 100% agreement with your recommendations, and I've been in woodworking for over 30 years (just a late bloomer with Festool). I always thought that Festool was just an overpriced tool that was as good as anything else, and then I got my own. WOW, what a difference~!! While I don't see myself turning my entire shop F-Green, I do have the desire to pick up their track saw (the corded 55 or 60) and possibly a Kapex (over the Bosch that I've always wanted). As you mention, they're not just tools, they are a system~! Again, great video~!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I think once people get that it’s all a system, and not just a fancy tool, then it clicks
@bobs4718
@bobs4718 4 ай бұрын
When I decided to drink the green koolaid, here is my order 1. ETS EC 125/3 sander and CT26 with blutooth 2. Domino 500 3. ETS 125 sander with edge guide and finally 4. OF 1400 Router. Worked well for me! I”m set for a while I think. My track saw is the Makita SJ6000 with Makita tracks. I also just got the Festool 55” track with the shelf pin holes. Now I’m all set for a while. EDIT: Get the Onida dust cyclone that fits the CT26, works incredibly and the bag in the CT26 actually has nothing in it, emptied the cyclone 20 times and changed the bag only once after 5 years! Nothing gets through to it. Only microscopic dust that doesn’t accumulate. I only changed it because it was 5 years later so why not get a fresh bag in there,
@Tdog500
@Tdog500 4 ай бұрын
The CT 26e and ETS EC150/5 were my first Festool purchases for controlling the dust. After using it I was amazed at how good the dust extraction is. I added the Bluetooth module later. The quality of the tools are great and a joy to use for me.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DadGuyDIY
@DadGuyDIY 4 ай бұрын
I agree your first 2 picks for sure. I was lucky enough to buy the midi and the rotex as my first 2 Festool tools. I would say without a doubt that the Festool dust extractor was life changing for my woodworking. People just don’t understand how it impacts so many different parts of woodworking, including your health .
@mycobsession
@mycobsession 4 ай бұрын
I have the CT Midi and it is astounding how effective it is. You think of it as just an expensive vacuum cleaner but it is so much more effective then any vacuum of its size including you don’t get shocked by touching it after sucking up a lot of sawdust. I would always buy it again if I had to do it over again
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 4 ай бұрын
Knocked these out before the end of the video, so as to not be biased by your choices. My picks: 1) Dust extractor; 2 6” dia. Orbital sander; and 3) Domino - 700, since I make larger projects.
@kwilliams2239
@kwilliams2239 4 ай бұрын
IMO, TS55, RO150, ETS150/3. I bought the RO125, TS55, then ETS 125. I was told to go with the 6" sanders, but didn't listen. Before I bought the RO125, I must have purchased a half dozen sanders from different manufacturers, and hated every one. When I first used the RO125, I was in love. I don't think my wife is too pleased because I'm now into the Festool pool about $12K deep. I'm planning on a RO80, but there has always been another shiny toy I wanted more.
@evanmetz1740
@evanmetz1740 4 ай бұрын
I'm just a hobbyist that occasionally expands out into custom/paid work. 1. Festool ETS EC 125/3. I updated the pad to the 150 to save a little money rather than just buy the 150. 2. CT 15. I never realized how important a dedicated dust extractor would be when sanding. 3. DF500 Domino. Did I need it? Absolutely not. However, as a mostly hobbyist, time is limited in my shop due to having a young family and wanting to stay engaged as a father/husband. I found that the time I save using the Domino pays for itself and more.
@BrendanFalkowski
@BrendanFalkowski 4 ай бұрын
These were my first three Festool orders (six items): 1+2 Cordless drill (T18+3 E with batteries) + Work lamp (KAL II) 3+4 Dust extractor (CT 26) + Domino joiner (DF500) + Domino systainer 5 Cordless table saw (CSC SYS 50 with batteries and stand)
@iOSAT
@iOSAT 4 ай бұрын
Similar to the Planex 2 - people give me shit saying, “oh that’s for people who aren’t good at drywall” EXACTLY, I’m not great at drywall and while I’m improving, I can always get a phenomenal, defect-free result, with minimal dust, in a fraction of the time. More importantly it completely changes remodeling work.
@blt981
@blt981 4 ай бұрын
Bought same tool and a come to sand ceilings after taking down popcorn ceilings in our home worth every penny…
@iOSAT
@iOSAT 4 ай бұрын
@@blt981 Definitely, even for that purpose alone it’s very quick ROI for a couple of jobs.
@michaelmenard8614
@michaelmenard8614 4 ай бұрын
I can tell you that I am still a beginner, and a hobbyist at that. the domino was a way to make joinery without the (or at least less) mistakes. you could argue that things like the Dowelmax are just as good, and that is valid... but for me the Domino is just easier. That was my first Festool Purchase. My second (and Third) was the MFT/3 and track saw. I went that route over a table saw because I need to be able to store it when not is use. there are trade offs for sure. and just for reference, I am making things in plywood and hardwood so if you are thinking about that setup but don't want to be limited to only sheet goods it works great for dimensional lumber using some parallel guides.
@r7j7t7
@r7j7t7 2 ай бұрын
Wow expected a lot of Festool-hater comments here...especially the Domino. Maybe they don't watch this channel because Jason has so much Festool in the background? Jason you hit it on the head. For most of us it is about efficiency. I have a family, job, and a CNC to learn how to use so even if I want to learn how to do some fancy joinery by hand (and I will do some of it), I actually want to get something done. Otherwise all my wife sees is packages arrive and nothing completed except more workshop storage organization projects. And ditto on the sander advice. It's magnificent that works really fast. Even with 3 mm stroke (I bought it first because of the veneered plywood burn through issue),their sanders are beautiful and the dust collection is awesome even with a standard shop vac.
@npet6842
@npet6842 Ай бұрын
Maybe all the Haters are busy with the Election ?
@OtterBeSwimming
@OtterBeSwimming 4 ай бұрын
I disagree with your third pick, strongly agree with your first pick. I think the domino maker is something that people can work around easily. I agree a dust collection system is number one, the sander being number 2 is reasonable, however I would think the track saw should be number 3. People need a good track saw but the domino is a luxury item.
@barriowoodworks
@barriowoodworks 4 ай бұрын
Beginner, CT 15, ETS EC125-150, track saw TS55.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@TomasRosberg
@TomasRosberg 4 ай бұрын
These are exactly the three festool tools I own, togeyher eith the cyclone for the dust collector. Couldn't agree more that they are festools greatest tools, I would add that their track saw is also one gell of a good tool (even though I use a bosch track saw that was gifted to me) Festool really nailed it with these tools, the sander is amazing, the domino is a time saver and the dust collector is in my view one extra component for any of their tools to function like theyre inteded to. 😊
@oliverking8029
@oliverking8029 4 ай бұрын
Gateway to festool was TS55 and multiple tools including CT22, RO150 and drills. That was 2004 and I am still running these. 2014 Domino was purchase great addition. I like the track saw as a 1st choice esp breaking down sheet goods.
@MarkBalanyk
@MarkBalanyk 4 ай бұрын
My first Festool's. CT MIDI I LS 130 EQ OF 1400 & Most recent TS 60 KEB ETS 125 REQ
@markisom78
@markisom78 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you two of them. I too have the CT midi and I love it. That is basically the basic of all festool machines. I agree with you on the Domino 500. I have the 700 but I rarely use it. The 500 is usually the go to tool in my shop for most projects. The last one I think should really be the TS 55 track saw and at least one of the tracks however I have 2 for breaking down 4x8 sheets of birch or maple. I hated using Mt old Dewalt track saw cause wood chip in every direction in my shop and the track never stayed in place. I absolutely love the TS 55. For those main reasons. Definitely a must have for any shop.
@nickdawson9270
@nickdawson9270 4 ай бұрын
Good choice. The DF500 is a game changer; sound joints made easy. I chose the CTL SYS for portability - as in take the tool to the job not the job to the tool. Try using a Festool sander or Domino without extraction. Neither perform any where near as well! The whole point of investing in Festool is increased productivity with tool optimised for specific tasks that work TOGETHER!
@Wolf-yw7en
@Wolf-yw7en 3 ай бұрын
Order of my first Festool purchases were equal 1st: Sander and Extractor package, 2nd: Kapex Mitre Saw and 3rd: Track Saw. Then I was hooked.
@jefflee6711
@jefflee6711 4 ай бұрын
My first Festool acquisition was the pendulum jigsaw back in 2008. I bought it specifically to cut some 8/4 Red Oak for a coffee table and it put my old Craftsman jigsaw to shame. Recently I picked up the TS-55. Saving up for the CT Midi or the CT-26 next.
@williamolsen8517
@williamolsen8517 4 ай бұрын
I agree. I purchased the 26 and love it. With it I purchased the 125 sander and have been happy with it for what I do. Will buy the rotex at some point. Domino 500 is game changer, completely agree. If you did a top 5, I would add the track saw and LR 32 router set up. Well done and I will try not to covet your tool selection.
@ethan3x8
@ethan3x8 4 ай бұрын
Beginner, CT Midi, ETS 125/3, TSC55. I got the domino right after this and learnt a lot with that tool.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@AngieWilliamsDesigns
@AngieWilliamsDesigns 4 ай бұрын
All great points. And after owning several Festool products... I'd have to agree. My first Festool was the Domino DF500. I was sure it was going to be my ONLY Festool. Boy was I wrong. My second tool was getting a sander and the CT26. Very happy with my CT26. I don't regret buying the sander... but I did get the Rotex 90. My intent was to use if for furniture restoration. And it is amazing for that. However your recommendation is a better starter sander. The sander is what sold my husband on the Festool system. He was amazed at the dust collection. I then added the TSC 55 track saw, another sander, the extractor accessory kit, MFT/3 table, the OF1400 router, LR32 system and then most recently I just got the Kapex. The only regret I've had is not getting them sooner.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
😊
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 2 ай бұрын
Ct 26 Extractor, TS 60 K track saw with 2 55in holey tracks, OF 1400 router. Followed quickly by the ETS EC 150/5. As a replacement for the Domino, the Ten Minute Workshops, Loose Tenon Jig will allow for the use of dominos. These along with Paulk’s Smart benches, and a $1500 order from TSI, will be the main basis of my woodworking setup.
@allenschei
@allenschei 4 ай бұрын
My order was the ct26 to use with my 3m sander then bought the ets125 with the edge attachment then the domino 500. Next will be the ets150.
@douglasbrown3493
@douglasbrown3493 3 ай бұрын
We bought a CT 48 AC extractor, a TS FEQ track saw, and an OF 1400 router as our first 3 Festool products. We have a Dowelmax kit for loosish M and T's. Thanks
@gcicary
@gcicary 4 ай бұрын
I purchased the CT36E dust extractor with the ETS EC 150/3 sander first and then the Domino 500. I am considering a track saw as my next Festool addition. Great comments and it made sense to me to buy them in this order as well. Totally recommend staring with dust collection and sanding. The Festool sander is a joy to use.
@bradsmith403
@bradsmith403 12 күн бұрын
My first festool was the HKC55, I’m a flooring contractor and since this purchase I have been able to forget the miter saw. I do have a Ct 26 on the way.
@brianmoore47
@brianmoore47 4 ай бұрын
I’ve got the domino ets 125 sander & the midi dust extraction Love to see you working in your workshop up close see how you work very inspiring to see
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
👊🏼👊🏼
@Arational
@Arational 3 ай бұрын
1) Dust extractor. The Midi works well for me. 2) Rotex RO-90. I get a lot of work restoring front doors and this tool's versatility and compact sanding head are perfect for this work. 3) ETS-125. The 2mm stroke leaves a very fine finish and it is Festool's cheapest sander. The difference between a shop vac with hepa filter and My CT-Midi is night and day. I would never go back.
@joebeaton1101
@joebeaton1101 4 ай бұрын
My first 3 Festool Tools were a Cordless 12V Drill with all the attachments... A TS55 Track Saw... CT Midi Dust Extractor!! Most of my Festool Tools are Corded!!
@gerardcarr9140
@gerardcarr9140 4 ай бұрын
Agree with the Dust Extractor, get the reusable bag, and a sander, I prefer the 125mm size. So that's one and two. Number three is problematic, but for me it was the Kapex, cutting on a whole new level of accuracy. The domino , I agree is a simply great tool, but with an existing Mortiser, it was the last thing I purchased. Always enjoy your videos.
@brianakins83
@brianakins83 4 ай бұрын
I have the same three except I have the 125... wish I had started with the 150 for sure.
@johnbrenner3107
@johnbrenner3107 4 ай бұрын
I don’t have any Festool products, but I would like to get some in the future. So thanks for the video. When I started watching the video, I was guessing you were going to suggest the dust extractor as your #1 choice. I think you are right. Every shop needs a dust extractor, and all Festool products work with them. Plus you can use it with all your other tools even if they aren’t Festool. 😁👍
@nsanerydah
@nsanerydah 4 ай бұрын
Just bought the CT MIDI and the ETS WC 150/5. Can’t wait to try them out.
@radiok2ua
@radiok2ua 4 ай бұрын
It's funny how close you came to mirroring the first three Festool tools I purchased! I have all three that you listed, and they were all in the first four. But I would go for these: (1) CT Midi i, (2) TS 60; (3) Domino 500. The reason is that the track saw is such a flexible tool that can potentially defer the purchase of a table saw and/or miter saw. This underscores the point that it depends on the buyer's circumstances and needs. I didn't have a track saw when I bought my TS 60, but I had a few sanders, so that was more important at the time. But a good sander is a huge work saver and hand saver so it's almost splitting hairs to suggest an alternative to your list--very good, sir.
@howler5000
@howler5000 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! When people ask me why they should get a domino I tell them to go to KZbin and look at how many videos they find for Domino alternatives. When everyone is trying to find a way around something, or find an alternative to one thing, that one thing is the best! Same reason I go with Glock.
@mwoody4560
@mwoody4560 4 ай бұрын
I’m with you on the Domino. I haven’t bought one yet because they are so expensive. But there really isn’t anything else out there that compares well. Sure there are other ways to do a similar thing. That’s what I do now. I will eventually buy a Domino jointer. As far as other Festool tools, I’ve always found another brands that win out my comparison criteria. So far, I haven’t regretted not getting any Festool yet.
@Sol-hl2rj
@Sol-hl2rj 4 ай бұрын
From near the home country of Festool.. Yes - The latest CT Mini/Midi, paired with the Bluetooth remote is really no 1 if you start out and have scarcely used dust extraction on hand tools before. As you say sanding with Festool is a whole new and a delight experience. I now use 4 different Festool dust extractors with: Routers, HKC 55 circular saw, a variety of FT sanders, CS 50 table saw and more, even the odd drilling - thanks to the convenience of the Bluetooth remote and mobility of the dust extractor. Each to their own needs further down the road.. but there’s a often forgotten gem: The HKC 55.. I love it! On standard rail, FSK rail or freehand. I use it for high grade plywood as well with a fine tooth blade and the results are excellent. It has even replaced 50% or more of what I usually did on the mitre saw. Good video Bent🤙
@johnporetti9554
@johnporetti9554 4 ай бұрын
You listed the exact three that I want to buy. I’ve planned all along to get the dust extractor and sander at the same time.
@SmallProjectCentral
@SmallProjectCentral 4 ай бұрын
My kids bought me the TS55 track saw for Christmas so I bought the CT26 and an extra track and the connectors. I have a super small work area so I’m looking at the MFT next so I can get square cuts. Then the sander 😊
@jscook54
@jscook54 4 ай бұрын
The only Festool tool I have is domino 500. I think one of the smaller dust collection would be next.I bought the 3M ROS and I really am happy with that. I have Kreg track saw but if I had known how often I used it I might have gone with the Festool.
@npet6842
@npet6842 Ай бұрын
New to this pastime ( replacing hardwood decks , balustrades and other exterior rotten wood . ) , I went with the Kapex 120 and the TSV60 for my first buys . I use a 1600 watt Miele domestic vacuum for extraction which is fine for this equipment and I had it spare too . If I was sucking fine dust ( paint/plaster etc ), then something else would be required .
@blt981
@blt981 4 ай бұрын
Retired now civil servant kids gone wanted to gear up my woodworking…Festool very expensive but I could pass it down to three boys or grandson…
@darrenalmeida1382
@darrenalmeida1382 4 ай бұрын
3 tools - TS55, CTMIDI I, ETS 125. Modifications to get: 2 - 55ʻ Guide rails, clamps and connectors. For the MIDI get the BT switch. For the ETS 125 Edge guide.
@Polemistis93
@Polemistis93 4 ай бұрын
I caught a holy grail and managed to get a Domino 500 and a CT48 for 1100 bucks, and i'm so happy with them. Absolutely incredible tools.
@Jeff034
@Jeff034 3 ай бұрын
Yep, bought exactly these three first. Just brilliant.
@ravenheart1439
@ravenheart1439 4 ай бұрын
I tell beginners, you gotta cut, you gotta sand you gotta drill...whatever it is get them 3 things first...then refine just what you want, Domino absolutely, brisketer absolutely...right equipment makes a huge difference and makes this journey way more enjoyable...
@wouldyoudomeakindnes
@wouldyoudomeakindnes Ай бұрын
thanks this video helped me narrow the decision, I have bought a Domino 500, TSC 55, Midi
@lindrake8315
@lindrake8315 4 ай бұрын
The exact 3 and order i recommend to anyone who comes into my store. There are times i suggest a track saw over the Domino based on the projects they are most interested in building.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@brettturner6993
@brettturner6993 4 ай бұрын
My actual first three festool tools were 1. A TS75 and a CT 15 2. The ETS 125 3. The DF 700 What I would recommend now 1. Any festool dust extractor with an ETS EC150/5 2. A TS 55 3. A DF 500 or DF 700 depending on the size of work you do. I have both the TS 75 and TS 55 and the DF 700 and the DF 500. I work with a lot of 8/4 and 6/4 wood so I almost always use the larger ones. I prefer the alignment pins on the DF 700 and the measurement block for height adjustment makes more sense to me. A 1010 or 1400 router is tempting to add to a recommendation list. Lol it is never ending!
@niftygriffty
@niftygriffty 4 ай бұрын
I bought CT36+DF500 first, then a Rotex 125. 100% agree with you on the Rotex for beginners -- the ergonomics are very tough to get used to. I'm glad I have it for certain applications (like where'd I use a belt sander or sanding endgrain) but it was a relief when I got the ETS 125 for "regular old sanding". I agree with you on the MIDI. I find my 36 big and bulky to lug around, and quite heavy when the bag is getting heavy. I'll likely get a MIDI soon for portable stuff and leave the 36 more stationary.
@zone4garlicfarm
@zone4garlicfarm 4 ай бұрын
I guessed you would say dust extractor, sander and domino and I agree on the extractor and sander though not necessarily that model sander. A 5 inch sander can be a better choice for someone who makes small projects. Likewise, some people will have little use for a domino depending what they make.
@GreenSaxon
@GreenSaxon 4 ай бұрын
Rotex sander, Domino 700 ( with accessories to use 500 dominos), extractor. I go for the all round capability.
@warrensmith2902
@warrensmith2902 4 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on your woodworking needs and on what you will be doing. My first was the TS-55 REQ with a MFT/3 table. After moving, I needed to rebuild my shop and built things for the house. Next came the DF500. I could get by with other tools for dust, sanding, and routing. I just made sure they all could hook up to a 27mm hose port, and my power strip that was plugged into an instant on switch to start my shop vac. Next on my purchase list will be a Festool sander, and an OF1400 router.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@ericjackson2915
@ericjackson2915 4 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with Dust extractor first - can utilize it with other non festool tools , it will provide the same functionality - start and stop when tool is utilized. Also agree with sander as it will probally be the most utilized. As for 3, its a toss up between TS55 Track saw, MFT, or one of the Kapex saws -Great review as always! Thanks!
@drumpriest
@drumpriest 4 ай бұрын
I have the same 3, different order. Domino first because it's so unique in it's function, dust extractor second, sander 3rd. Really 2 and 3 are best together.
@graphixg1
@graphixg1 4 ай бұрын
The Domino is the only Festool product that is a "must have" for streamlining joinery and no other similar options are available. Worth every penny if you make furniture. Any other tool, there are much cheaper comparable options.
@MountainPostWoodworks
@MountainPostWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
I agree with your 3 tools, I get the midi this Saturday. The amount of Dust I create is insane, I wished I bought the Dust extractor first. I love my domino and my rotex which was a gift from my daughter for fathers day. great video.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Huey52123
@Huey52123 4 ай бұрын
Exactly the order and Festool models I bought a number of years ago, so of course I concur (also started with their "more comfortable" ETS 125 REQ sander after a demo). Excellent guidance as always! 😊
@gerardoalvarez-cobian4639
@gerardoalvarez-cobian4639 4 ай бұрын
I started with a track saw and a vacuum and then had to get the miter saw, that’s what I use the most as I go with investing in tools and my favorite is the track saw I have ripped so many sheets with it and man the blade is still sharp, cuts like butter. I would like the domino next but it’s has to wait there tools are expensive.
@bluepeakwoodworks
@bluepeakwoodworks 4 ай бұрын
I don't have a lot of Festool tools but the three I have are the three you listed although I acquired them in the reverse order you listed them. I just added the CT26 after using a Bosch extractor for a number of years. I like the Bosch but love how Festool integrated bluetooth into their dust extractors. With the remote on the hose, it works perfectly when attached to non-Festool tools like my cordless Makita tracksaw. Great video as always. Thanks.
@bdm1000
@bdm1000 2 ай бұрын
Also, the outlet of the CT26 can handle more amps than that of the Midi, so anyone interested in hooking the dust extraction up to more powerful tools will likely trip breakers less often with the 26.
@crashkg
@crashkg 4 ай бұрын
This video should come with a warning label about falling down the Festool rabbit hole. I started with the Rotex150 because I had some house projects that needed the material removal rate. Then I needed the dust extractor to go with it, CT36... Then the track saw, planer, resisted the domino for way too long... Then took the plunge. Don't regret a single one.
@mikhailarey1196
@mikhailarey1196 4 ай бұрын
Dust collector (your choice), sander (again your choice) , track saw. All my first 19 years ago. Btw, Brent you’re looking good. Been hitting the gym? Take care.
@gwademytube
@gwademytube 4 ай бұрын
Great video and some good advice. I started Green Suiters podcast from the beginning and got a bit caught up in the Get Bent fun. 😊
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, you went way back. Lol
@adamt276
@adamt276 3 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you! First 3 tools I purchased, CTM MIDI, TSV60 and 2200 EB :)
@rickbyno2401
@rickbyno2401 4 ай бұрын
1. Kapex, 2. Track Saw (55), 3. Domino. Dust extraction is a must. I hate sanding but agree the Festool sanders are wonderful. I would say get the ETS 125 and the Edge sanding guide.
@williammuse4594
@williammuse4594 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has made the transition from Dewalt to Festool, I have a different ranking: 1) Domino 500 - its an awesome tool and its like nothing else I had at the time 2) TS55 Track Saw - simply put, its best of breed. Originally I couldn't justify the price of it and went half ass with the Kreg ACS. While it was better than a circular saw, its still just a compromise in every way. After a couple cabinet projects that just didn't meet my expectations, I went all in with the TS55 - with multiple tracks and the MFT table. Ungodly expensive, but it gave me the results I was expecting and zero regrets. (and I sold the ACS in a hot minute). 3) OF1400 Router & LR32 system - once I had the Tracks for the TS55, it was a logical progression to the OF1400 Router & LR32. Even though I still swear by my cordless Dewalt Palm Router for simple round overs and chamfers, the track alignment of the OF 1400 & LR 32 has delivered impressive results that justify its cost. From the outside, many see Festool as expensive tools. However, once you understand that its an entire system, the cost impediment starts to fade away. Final note - I have to completely disagree with the extractors. Unless you are doing trim work in a hospital hallway, I've been able to replicate the suction and dust with a Rigid Shop Vac with HEPA bags and the Dust Separator made to fit on a plastic bucket. The real innovation of Festool products is that they are built to capture the dust (but the dust can be collected by any vacuum).
@apswirl
@apswirl 2 ай бұрын
I feel like with the TSV 60 and the Domino 500 are tied for 3rd with the edge going to what you’ll primary work with starting out. If you’re going to work with plywood a lot, the TSV 60 gets the edge. Having used the TSV 60, it produces such beautiful finish ready cuts, it’s such a pleasure. But if you’re starting out making frames or other projects working with solid woods and joinery, the Domino 500 gets the edge for its simplicity and versatility. But without a doubt, buying the dust extractor first is just an optional. The CT MIDI has changed my entire woodworking experience significantly!
@rhettdunn8788
@rhettdunn8788 4 ай бұрын
I had my 3 in mind going into the video. Exact same 3. But I put the sander at 1 and the extractor at 2. I’d rather have the sander hooked up to a cheap shop vac than a cheap sander hooked up to the extractor
@subgeeze
@subgeeze 4 ай бұрын
I've got 2 of the Festools you mention--both excellent. Bought a 3M 6" ROS last year for a lot less than the Festool--no regrets there either. And Rockler has come out with a snap-in adaptor and hose that I can use with the dust extractor so that it works with non-festools. This was a huge frustration until I got the adaptors.
@taylorbannister9494
@taylorbannister9494 11 күн бұрын
I agree with the dust extractor being first. I bought a track saw first and wish i had just bought the dust extractor too
@peterhudson7574
@peterhudson7574 4 ай бұрын
I usually agree either way everything you say - and I wrote down my first 3 before I watched the video and in the same order - but my number 2 was the rotex sander - it is so impressive and shifts wood fast with a high quality tool.
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