FF8 Compression of Time Music Remake

[@octoman_games]

Once you understand FF8, you realize the masterpiece that it is and how grossly underrated it is.

[@felipefigueiredo3394]

tottally agree

[@thelaughingdragon32]

How do u understand it?

[@gracenote108]

The problem is you gotta go through the whole game and finish the last castle for it to come together.

[@MisterLackLustre]

Final Fantasy 8 isn't underrated

[@dee-taylor]

The story and atmosphere etc are great but you can break the game on the 1st disc. Not underrated because of that. No other FF can be broken near this early.

[@GigiShaSlay]

0:56 incorporating the ticking of a clock is absolute brilliance, I had to go back to listen to the original to see if that was part of it. Entirely your addition. Well fucking done.

[@GuillaumeLeValiant]

Yeah that's actually a genius idea!

[@MeatSim64]

It really suits the song to a tee. The beat and theme of the track. Just sublime 😌👍

[@ReadThis_]

Omg..... omg omg omg.... one of the deepest, darkest and most iconic melodies.... and not only of ff8... I LOVE you man....

[@ismad150kogs8]

I love that guy x2 😘👉

[@ReadThis_]

@@ismad150kogs8 No. I love him more 😝😝😝

[@Zenzareus]

😮😊

[@ir8free]

most profound track eva?

[@ReadThis_]

@@ir8free well isn't it??

[@IidosGamingDen]

One of the most underrated tracks of FFVIII, for sure, and one of my personal favorites from the soundtrack. You stand at the end of time, from which all roads lead. All that lies ahead is the destroyed future, and the destroyer herself...are you ready to take the battle to Ultimecia?

[@YazgothPL]

All tracks of FF8 are the best

[@IidosGamingDen]

@@YazgothPL My personal favorite soundtrack of the series ^^ FF9's is also very good, but FF8 was not only my first FF game, but my first RPG ever...its music holds a special place in my heart.

[@nahonygal3034]

I totally agree with you. By the way, i didn't really enjoy It before listening to This remake. And your comment made me think about It. The music "the oath" or even "the landing" are still my favorite ones anyway. Cause they are So inspiring to me. The speech you have to make, to cheer all the students, but also cheer your self to convince every one including you that you CAN win This battle, and that you WILL. Always cheering me up 👍

[@DrAbKaN]

your comment gave me chills omg..... FF8 owns my soul 🙏

[@RobbyKey]

So true man. FF8 Soundtracks create a feeling for me which no other music can!

[@ZealKingdom]

Final Fantasy VIII is a game that is not without its problems, but I feel bad for people who can't get through those issues to enjoy what is a pretty incredible experience. This is a brilliant take on one of my favorite tracks in the game, and in the series. Great job.

[@OGYouTubeEnjoyer]

"Hehehe I feel bad for you because you don't like the same video game I like" lmao who gives a shit. Enjoy the game and move on with your life.

[@birdmatrix2613]

Indeed, FFVIII can offer a lot besides the classic trashing. Story goes deeper one may think and overall ambience is just unmatched.

[@chocochoco9182]

​@@OGKZbinEnjoyer he just means that the game has good aspects and is worth cherishing, unlike how people quickly jump on a bandwagon and judge it overall bad. But you instead, really give a shit, took issue with those words and tried to assume he was criticizing these people, smh . Dude, you are the one who should move on with your life instead.

[@chrisg8378]

my very first FF game I ever player, amazing experience. The only thing i hated about it was the annoying draw system where you have to spend hours fighting mobs to stock up on max magic. Rest was amazing even now.

[@KirbyGotenksabsorbed]

@@chrisg8378 Which is easily avoidable with a basic understanding of the game mechanics, of course.

[@Nykoooo1]

This song is a perfect expression of despair and lament, and all sadly beautiful at the same time.

[@annpenso7299]

What an apt description

[@LoptukqrickL11]

Tbh I didn't know I even liked this song until 4 or 5 years ago when I was unemployed and just waited around in a dark apartment all day for employers to call me. No friends and no money at the time. I wasn't necessarily depressed, but time started to feel weird and meaningless, like I was detached from it. That gave this song a lot more meaning to me as I felt like I was just drifting through time waiting for something - anything to happen.

[@RadfordRadford]

I hope you've moved on and are in a better place.

[@darshio8307]

Amazing interpretation, hope you are doing better

[@MeatSim64]

You kind of went through a limbo but in the physical world. I usually experience it at like 3 or 4 am and I am left alone with my thoughts. So I know what you mean. Sorta

[@Bahamutprime-fj5rz]

when i reached this point of the game and the music came on it felt so haunting yet beautiful, i felt like i was lost in time

[@Bynk333]

And it was only one moment when you can save game and hear this music or go on and never hear the full song. :-)

[@BigUncleM]

This remake really encompasses those first few moments looking on at the massive castle at the end of a titanic chain, almost alien in it's nature and presence. You get a feeling for the immense amount of magical energy there being squandered in the name of hatred and lust for power.

[@OmegaGuess]

Totally! It's this feeling of wonder and dread and just general dissonance, all in one.

[@NegikunTV]

Beautiful. I remember playing this moment in the story, where reality all melted around the protagonists and their destinies truly mixed as one. Everything they grew up to know and understand as children was torn away as the true reality of the world they lived in was revealed.

[@manoelrgneto]

20 years later on after playing FFVIII and get the oportunity to hear/listen this version of this song is just... surreal...

[@Hassan-jj8mq]

This theme is overshadowed in general cuz it comes in the pathway to the castle. But boy is it good And boy is this remix good... they should consider this guy if they ever did an ff8 remake

[@cherub3624]

Yeah this one of the best themes in the game and you only hear it for a couple minutes. I've always thought it should replace the final battle music when she's actually compressing time.

[@zodzecht]

@@cherub3624 Usually the case with some of the best themes, you only hear them once or twice in the game kinda like the Hilda Garde theme from FF9, it's the original airship theme but then gets replaced with another (in my opinion inferior) theme

[@Grpeephole]

@@zodzecht or Kingdom hearts 3 where you hear only 30 seconds of the best track.

[@LifeofPalos]

This is straight perfection.

[@rinoamenna]

beautiful remix i remember being a little girl sitting on the chain leading to ultimecias castle just to listen to this over & over so nostalgic

[@ZeeJayBay]

Same! One of my favorite remixes of this song is Everything = Nothing by Zircon. I promise you won't regret a listen

[@VLADIMIR007ISH]

You must have a beutiful ass

[@Convoluted-and-Exiled]

YES!!! Or in that trippy white void, making sure not to go too far as to trigger a screen change.

[@hdknz]

Where can I meet a woman like you!

[@mikeflightfpv2162]

That's funny. I thought I was one of the only one's that did such a thing.. Truly a beautiful piece of music. 👍

[@deltaphant_]

This is honestly one of my favourite video game songs, with how it's peaceful yet exciting, how it feels chaotic yet predictable, etc.

[@gneminerift7485]

If FF7 Remake was possible due to the fact that the Life Stream is outside of Time's impact, then FF8 should also get a "remake" due to the fact that the whole plot revolved around Time Manipulation and Time Looping.

[@chiffmonkey]

Damn, the use of the ticking clock is genius.

[@YhcTiR]

I never realize it until I read your post

[@thekidevil91]

Everything about Ultimecia was made to be feared!! Even the lack of back story about her and her reasons was made in a way to be feared!! Although in 7, sephiroth was also made to be feared, you knew how he looked like, the dimension of his abilities and his reasons! I personally think this made Ultimecia the most fearfull villain of this FF era!! And this soundtrack represents beautifully this concept. Standing in the compression of time, past present and future destroyed!! I never felt in others FF games, like the world is really ending as I did in FF8!!

[@franksegui4478]

Actually the going theory was ultimecia was Renoa in the future and the great beast " Lionheart" was squalls undying will to protect her. When he died his will enchanted his ring "Lionheart" and he himself became a GF thereby keeping his promis to be her night and to be by her side always. When Renoa gains the full power of time see looses herself because her entire life was just a moment in infinity which she now was. She remembered only that she lost something important (she loved him) but nothing more. The reason why there is a lack of back story is because the entire game was in fact her backstory.

[@hyperionalmasy]

@@franksegui4478 yeah but that one is just a fan theory and has been debunked by the developers themselves. They also said they wouldn't even consider this approach in a remake, I guess because Rinoa would never turn evil (and in fact, why would she).

[@franksegui4478]

@@hyperionalmasy I don't have a computer right now and my phone is hot garbage but I do remember reading about that. What they said actually didn't debunk the theory what they said was a very skillfully diplomatic answer that answered question that sounded similar to the question that was asked but not actually the question that was asked. In reality they never actually debunked it or confirmed it (and they never will if kind of ruins the magic). Tht being said the theory makes a lot of sense to the point where if it is actually wrong the game in my opinion makes no sense. It also fits into the Final Fantasy formula of making the first screens of the game seem like a simple introduction but In reality have much more meening by the end of the game. FF 1 - first moron you fight and kill is the last boss. FF2-6 - never played them FF 7 - Aerith staring at mako goo leaking from pipeds. At end of game that very image is what you see when she sommons spirit to fight meteor. One of many details showing she knew the events of the future before they happened and planned for it. FF 8 -Fethos Luset video showing clips of events that happen later in the game (seemed wierd cause they never did that before it almost felt like a trailer). They did this because the game was actually a time loop and the events shown had indeed already happened before you as a player actually see them happen. FF 9 - Been a while since I played but I believe the play put on for the king

[@franksegui4478]

@@hyperionalmasy con't from last reply. ... For the king and queen was reminiscent of monkey boy and garnets love story. Also it sets up a touching ending. FF X - The unrealistic way this monster comes and kills everyone but doesn't effect drunken sets guy and magically teleports the main character to another world was indeed unrealistic because it never happened and was just the back story the faiths implanted into his head to make him believe he was who he was and to help Yuna. FF Xi - games from this point on where very different and in my opinion became lazyly written and not nearly as good. No longer follows the formula either.

[@sonh788]

Ff8 had so much of plot take. Out and was actually rushed to its release date . Imagine how much better it would've been if they didn't cut parts out

[@dustinp1164]

Man I remember hearing this track for the first time. One of the best placed pieces of music in any form of entertainment. The moment was so abstract and bizarre and this songs brings the time compression together. Thanks Enrico, you are awesome!

[@StokkyBalboa]

This song with headphones is so good. It feels like a binaural beat or even asmr, when the trompete plays together with the choire and harp.

[@GunnzaEIR]

When I was a kid I only got to Adel and couldn't beat her. When I was older I replayed the whole game and words cannot describe what this song made me feel. It comes on shortly after you beat Adel and enter time compression. Made me think about my whole life to when I last played the game 20 years ago when I was a kid

[@2207Jay]

Final VIII one of the BEST and MOST UNDERRATED Final Fantasies ever!! Such a bad ass game and my absolute FAVORITE!!❤❤❤❤

[@mrmosty5167]

Phenomenal. I’ve said it before but it’s like you survived the worst apocalypse ever but you still have to pick yourself up, move forward and try to help anyone you can

[@PabloEnver]

What a mindblowing song!

[@elitenurseangie2460]

I love how you can clearly hear a clock ticking throughout the song. It really adds to the already heavy feeling of loneliness of this piece. At least that's how I view it.

[@DarkSquall3000]

Is everyone ignoring the fact that he added the good stereo the original had aswell????? :O It's pretty impressive!!!! You're a God.

[@De4daim]

absolutely underrated track in ff8, glad you picked it up and gave it the remake it deserves!!!

[@Kassadinftw]

The sound moving back and forth between headphones too, so cool, all the little details. Your remixes take these memorable tunes to the next level, and always always always capture the essence of the original.

[@Modernsamurai_nj]

The first time I heard this I felt like I was about to take on the most legendary mission of all time. This track is so underrated. Great job with the remix.

[@もふもふにゃん]

Compression of time… It's a terrifying and beautiful melody.

[@tiffaleah6690]

I think this might be my favorite rendition of this particular track. Well done.

[@LoneRebel]

I agree, this version much better than original 😳

[@felipefigueiredo3394]

it's one of the deepest songs in all ff franchise, congrats to all that aprecciated ff8

[@levi5073]

That base!!! I love it. Headphones full volume.

[@s-clone8964]

A Compression of Time remix wow! It's little disappointing that this track doesn't get as much love or attention through the fandom unlike most of the others.

[@De4daim]

true fans know how great it is! lovin it since i first heard it

[@ironwolg]

I just don’t like the sax :( it sounds goofy to me. I think a sine or square wave would’ve sounded better.

[@AkaiAzul]

Most people don't play far enough to hear it, sadly. Such a hidden gem of a song!

[@azadamaterasu6990]

​@@De4daim "true fans" lul

[@GunnzaEIR]

For me this is FF8's version of City of the Ancients

[@ericheiser2324]

Fell asleep listening to this last night. I only wish it was 8+hours so I could wake up to it.

[@svartfrasr9755]

Time shall Kompress. All existence denied.

[@Oneaphelion]

Lokusts akross....

[@RTheStoryteller7]

I love the addition of clock ticking noise

[@goddesssalem4842]

This is such a beautiful piece

[@nafslee]

This theme has always encapsulated that feeling of confusion, uncertainty and fear at the end of FF8 for me. This remake does it justice and feels very cinematic like I'm watching an FF8 movie or remade cutscene.

[@EdieDuarte]

This melody played in my head when I was 15 every day. I also played ff8 about 7 times in my life and, for sure, it's the best ff in my opinion. Congratulations on the job! 👊

[@CertainEnd]

*Compressed,* Time *Has;* *Denied,* Existence *Was.*

[@EpicLegendaryMythicMusic]

Is this quote from the game? It's awesome.

[@Darkvulpine]

This track you did was the inspiration for a premise in my tabletop campaign, alternate realm of fractal surrealism. It took four years for my players to get to the point in the story that this track inspired me, and tomorrow... is when they finally reach that realm. I intend to play this track to set the atmosphere.

[@EnricoDeianamusic]

Oh very good! I'm so happy it can be helpful for your inspiration! Have a great game 🎉

[@Darkvulpine]

@@EnricoDeianamusic Many thanks! It went well! shame two members didn't bother showing up, but the others really liked how it played out, and your remix certainly helped sell the scene!

[@CheyenneEntertainmentYT]

Best remake I've heard. If they'd ever remake the game, THIS has to be in there!

[@りゅうた-l2t]

ff8のリメイクをすごく待ってます。 僕の1番好きな曲をリメイクしてくれてありがとうございます。すごくカッコいいです！

[@BlueHarvey]

This theme (to my knowledge) only uses 3 Instruments in the Original. Clarinet, Choir and the Harp. Clarinet being the past, the choir the future and the harp the present. At the end of the theme loop its only the Harp playing, at the start only the clarinet. Those instruments and the way they're introduced and taken away should show the time compression but with Instruments! All 3 of them end up as 1 in the end. The past preset and future coexist at the same time! Insane! This piece has become way mlre impactful and important than it already was! What an incredible track!

[@EnricoDeianamusic]

I didn't know about the meaning of this three instruments! Is this an interpretation that you have given or do you have read it from official sources of Nobuo Uematsu interviews? Anyways I like it and it's real... This is the perfect example that sometimes with so less you can make great music!

[@BlueHarvey]

@@EnricoDeianamusic It's my own interpretation and I hope it was Uematsu-san's Original intent! It just makes too much sense!

[@BlueHarvey]

Something else I noticed, each instrument that is playing, is doing something with 3 notes. The sax(which I wrongfully called clarinet in my earlier comment) is always playing the same 3 notes. The harp is always playiing 3(? I think) set chords or notes before it shifts to the next set. I think same goes for the choir, but I have a harder time 100% determining it for the choir aswell. This theme is, actually timeless!(no pun intended)

[@EspecialJ]

My favorite theme and the most that submerged me into the ambience. My brain exploded from this part on forward! Loved all the game a lot, but loved it more from the part that you get Ragnarok to the end. My Favorite FF :)

[@kevinwilliams4932]

My favorite Final Fantasy! This is awesome!!

[@Dannymiles1987]

I blast this on the way to work. Just wishing I had this power.

[@HanzoAgario]

FF8 need a remake i'm a big fan ,i love your channel

[@dimitrescu4873]

Amem dude!

[@turboforceyt2363]

No habrá un remake de ff8 square perdio la base original del juego.

[@robincaffa5155]

Lol finished ff8 over 50 times...🤤😍

[@harvest9121]

Good news everyone! Remaster on the way!

[@RealFabz]

@@harvest9121 the remaster is trash

[@Lincolnberries]

1:45 is where I tear up 🥺

[@Dan88Eriksson]

19 years ago I heard this song for the first time, and saw Ultimecia's castle for the first time. "We're coming for you!" So many childhood memories.

[@ravenjade94]

The strings in this song is what really gets to me..original or the beautiful version...the Strings never fail to make it hit differently inside

[@DivineMorality]

Haven't even heard it yet and I know I won't be disappointed! Edit: I presumed correctly!

[@spardinho]

The process is the following: you hit Like, then hit it a trillion more times, then proceed to listen.

[@Oneaphelion]

I shall junction myself unto Griever (squall) (at the cost of those memories).

[@alonzooxx]

Most underrated theme in ff8

[@emptycup5409]

It's f**kin dark, such a song of tragedy at post apocalyptic world.

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

one of the best soundtracks in the whole game

[@UzumakiNagato]

After defeating Adel, the game is like smoking a joint the size of an exhaust pipe 😅

[@netko156]

One of my favourite pieces of FF8, you did it justice!

[@animatedink2529]

FF8 remaster has been confirmed! Can't wait to experience this moment again

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Can't wait to hear the voice acting

[@alexeiharp7676]

What new will remaster bring? Is it only the same game with better graphics like ffix versions??

[@lolindirlink]

@@Fleshlight_Reviewer Laguna Laguna!

[@aaron4832]

Wouldn't mind hearing your take on The Legendary Beast theme. It could only sound amazing.

[@msadids]

one of my favorite ff sound of all time. good work thanks

[@DetectiveSadist]

This is amazing. Hyped about the remaster and discovered your channel. You're talented as hell! :D

[@7thHoly]

Every remake you make is amazing, much appreciated!

[@AlbionLegend]

A slow, sustained choir. Medium tempo saxophone melody. Overlaid with quick strings that emulate a ticking clock. Three tempos, melding into one...like time is compressing within the music itself.

[@TheTwober]

You only truly understand this song if you are at a turning point in your life... and fail. And then spend hours to dwell upon the past, go through decision after decision to figure out what went wrong and why. At that point time literally compresses inside your mind, and past, present and future become one. Together with a burning desperation, begging the universe that you could just unmake that one mistake in the past that ultimately lead to your downfall. Which is also the story of FF8 from the perspective of the villain, except that she can literally compress time and alter the past.

[@АлександрТетьков-д9й]

Those who were in FF8 and came close to the meaning of this story understand what it’s about he (she) thought to this music. It’s indescribable, but it’s strong! It was emotions that made you who you are now! I say “right now” when you hear this music...

[@kendey9928]

Do you have any plans of putting this one spotify? This is by far the best version of compression of time I've ever heard and I love this song

[@DarkxXeno]

One of my faves in FF VIII, will never forget.When I heard the trumpet is surround sound, I had to switch to headphones, was totally amazing.

[@MissDerpina2606]

Merry Christmas. 🎄😊

[@EnricoDeianamusic]

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas to you too 🙏🏻

[@seanyoung9014]

Wow great job! I've loved this song as it was for the past 20 years but you managed to improve upon it. This is going into the playlist immediately.

[@EnricoDeianamusic]

Thank you so much! Happy you enjoy it

[@seanyoung9014]

@@EnricoDeianamusic You're very welcome. I'm a composer and audio engineer myself. May I ask which instruments you used to create this? I usually use Omnisphere 2, Kontact stuff and some 8Dio instruments. The choral arrangement here is especially good.

[@EnricoDeianamusic]

@@seanyoung9014 I'm not totally sure, because I've composed this years ago. For the choirs I may have used Metropolis Ark 1 Choirs probably blended with The Orchestra, which has a patch for low dynamic voices which work really good!

[@seanyoung9014]

@@EnricoDeianamusic Cool thanks!

[@hyperionalmasy]

I used to just sit back, pause the game and let this music play for hours because it was only played at that very brief scenery. So beautiful.

[@Skullgrin.]

Oh sweet, my favourite track from 8!!

[@MissDerpina2606]

Good music video.

[@NetherlandsFirst]

Very nice, it has a strange 'stringy' and dark bass-thing in the background that works really well. Can you do Lunatic Pandora next? I'm sure you'll do it justice.

[@robertailwood9539]

Done

[@DanielSoares-og6xh]

I listened to that song and I could only imagine how it would be to play a FF8 remake. The emotion of fighting a war among several time lines and this soundtrack playing. FF8 with nowadays technology would be totally awesome, with the carachters voices screaming the names of their attacks, Ultimecia saying - with a scary and deep voice - "TIME SHALL COMPRESS, ALL EXISTENCE DENIED". My goose bumps have goose bumps.

[@LyntzbartzkyPerez]

One can only dream. The thing is, if they remade it and nailed it, it would be a fucking masterpiece….but idk if i can trust modern day square to do that 💀

[@83MTHO]

This is the greatest RPG game ever made. Don't bother with opinions. It just is.

[@iggyp4390]

This makes me happy. One of my favorite Uematsu pieces! Thanks!

[@KAZ64OST]

Nice Work, Square needs this!

[@Convoluted-and-Exiled]

FINALLY how it was always meant to sound in all it's glory! What a BEAUTIFUL remaster take on this classic! Thank you so much! So pretty!! And the...Horn? Isn't so harsh now. You really did a good job balancing it too! Fantastic tribute!!

[@antoniodirocca6202]

I love this music, I love how it is associated with the introduction of the castle of Artemisia / Ultimecia

[@xapa8962]

I keep coming back to this. So well done.

[@DefaultJane]

This is such a brilliant remake, and I freaking love the subtle tick -tock in the background, such an awesome detail, this is so good!

[@toceecee2secondsago564]

Beautiful job remastering this. One of my favorite tracks within ff8 ost.

[@jimidesmet5097]

Impressively powerful, very good job 👌

[@Nachtdwaler]

Nice clear remake thats very faithful to the original. good stuff!

[@dalekirkpatrick2512]

The animation deserves as much love as the music. Both spectacularly executed.

[@RazzMaTad]

This was so dope to listen to w my headphones. Thank you

[@lagunacorona]

There is a place that's sealed off in pint magu in Malibu a bolder cliff almost ruin like with a road that has broken half off that leads to another secluded cliff that had a stone gate on its edge. At night you can see the ocean and stars and when red tide comes there is bioluminescence. This song always reminds me of that place.

[@grieverleonhart2630]

Instantly subscribed and liked. Love this song

[@dee-taylor]

This is what pure melancholy sounds like. Deep despair with a glimmer of hope.

[@r3d_i5oljah55]

Man i did an ayahuasca retreat a couple of days ago. And that back drop of this video is something I experienced. I wish this video dropped wen i did the medicine, so i would have listened to it when i went through my journey

[@Trid3nt861]

This is the theme where you know you have reached the final area and are about to go do battle with the sorcoress of time and existence itself.... *Ultimecia*

[@alan8759]

This work is a marvel, in the current present it fits perfectly for all the events that the world is going through..

[@MrAquilina420]

I like how you used a ticking clock percussively to represent the “time” aspect. The choirs makes this one powerful remix.

[@tiagombg]

Nobuo’s masterpiece!

[@DerivativeMVs]

The horn instrument was always the most powerful touch they could've added. The moment you enter time warp, and you hear that horn start tooting; you are guaranteed to know you aren't in Kansas anymore.

[@lukaavabel8479]

Great as always!

[@DOAUltimate]

Today (02/09/21) i learn that i am going to be a dad from a woman. I'm no longer with i don't love her, i love the child, the first thing i hear is this song. i love my childhood! the life you had (back then) as a child is long gone ... i love you my child and will show you FF8 when you are ready. i will do everything better that i did not go well in my childhood, i swear! Compression of Time thank you for your strength

[@KMartin1311]

...whatever No seriously. I hope you're able to connect with your child. I know I have a child out there of my own, but I have no idea where he/she is.

[@UnholyAbomination]

Omfg! Thank you so much!! Love it!!! Unrelated; could you do the legend of Dragoon Menu theme and Boss battle 3!?!?!?!?

[@lunabria8158]

Yes yes and more yes! I loved this game. One if my favs besides ff7.

[@dustinlarsen3245]

Seconds this vote... Also play the game if you haven't. Strong story.

[@UnholyAbomination]

No question about what the fans want now!!

[@aidentan5373]

oh god someone still remember this game, its one of my fav

[@gregerius]

Doubtful. Dude's european and Final Fantasy is like the only JRPG we saw over here. I'm betting he makes most of these from nostalgia.