Revelation Is Coming True! (1/2)

/ sciencereason ... Revelation Is Coming True! (1/2) - The Atheist Experience #590 with Matt Dillahunty & Martin Wagner.
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[@michaeldobson107]

Well, I haven't read it, and I don't know what it says, but I believe it! Welcome to Christianity folks.

[@edwardjohnson8933]

Christianity is cancer to evolving freedom😎

[@3dge--runner]

+Michael Dobson spot on my friend

[@edwardjohnson8933]

These phones are the beginning of the end for religion, their a punch line joke, say ing that someone's a christain , makes people laugh, I was once a delusioals

[@uparangi7933]

Revelation is coming true. I haven't read it. Planet created by science. Obama is the anti Christ. True village idiot.

[@MarquisLeary34]

Modern American fundamentalist Christianity, at least.

[@davonuk1]

The difference between this guy and the average theist caller is that he ADMITS that he hasn't read his book.

[@TheStalkingEmu]

At least he's honest

[@CosmicTruthTeller]

Jonathan Nicoll Sadly, many Christians are IQ impaired. And many actually do read the Bible - all the time ... But they are much too deluded for any real enlightenment.

[@Chew1964]

"The book was much better than the movie." "How was the book different?" "I don't know. I never read the book."

[@BggProductions]

"I've never really read Revelation" Christianity summed up in one perfect statement.

[@brucebaker810]

+BggProductions How about "I've never read the bible, nor considered any alternative to Christianity...but I'm a Christian".

[@BggProductions]

+Bruce Baker Sad but true.

[@TheinternetArchaeologist]

​@BggProductions did you learn Misrepresenting what somebody said isn't a good faith argument yet? Not a skydaddy fanboy just Curious... He said he read the back meaning he read the last book. Don't be the straw man It leads to entrenching others in ignorance.

[@Brammy007a]

Alonzo's road to rationality will be a long and difficult one.

[@davids11131113]

'Alonzo's' road to wisdom is a cul de sac.

[@Brammy007a]

davids11131113 ...........with clogged sewer pipe spewing garbage all over the place.

[@avedic]

Brammy007a What a profoundly _dense_ human being. Holy shit....if my mind was this oatmeal-like, I'd have to kill myself. Though...the scariest part is, if I _actually was_ trapped inside Alonzo's mind, I wouldn't even *_realize_* how stupid and immoral I was...so I wouldn't even _know_ that my mind was broken. That's actually terrifying to contemplate... PS: Revelation is coming true...cuz...... _"everything...is happening...bad."_ -___- ==(gun)\

[@Brammy007a]

avedic >>>>> if I actually was trapped inside Alonzo's mind, I wouldn't even realize how stupid and immoral I wasI think you've hit on the root of Alonzo's problem. Unfortunately, there are millions of Alonzos out there.

[@verticalhorizon4633]

+Brammy007a An unfinished one.

[@j4kp07]

I feel bad for people like this. They mean no harm, they have a good heart. But they just haven't been exposed to enough education where they are asked to think independently, critically and be more creative.

[@captain2ahab]

They can perfectly exploited. You can send them to fight wars for you You can sell them anything

[@ossiedunstan4419]

IF THE FOLLOW RELIGION WITH BLINKERS ON , THEN THEY ARE DOING HARM , AND AS THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR THEIR GOD THEY DO MEAN HARM, RELIGION DOES HARM NOT GOOD

[@destaylor9999]

Ossie Dunstan exfuknactly

[@houstonpromotion]

Na he’s just a jackass and remember folks his vote counts just as much as yours

[@ChipArgyle]

This caller is a good example of a modern American Christian: believes to the point that he'll argue his ass off about it, but hasn't cracked a Bible in his life. Everyone should read the Book of Revelation. It's really short. It takes hardly any time at all. It's some of the trippiest writing you'll ever see. How a grown adult could read it and say, "Yeah, that seems plausible," is beyond me.

[@JimTLonW6]

I remember when I read it I found myself thinking 'what was this guy on when he wrote this?". Magic Mushrooms? Ergotism?

[@ChipArgyle]

JimLondonW6 He probably ate some bad shellfish. And they were warned about that.

[@Mephistolomaniac]

ChipArgyle This comment deserves more likes. Just sayin'

[@JimTLonW6]

Mephistolomaniac Thanks!

[@kbPhionex]

JimLondonW6 well it's metaphor for the roman legions coming down on the christians Nero was the anti-christ and 666 or rather 616 is the number of a roman legion see metaphor

[@dmnagbe39]

I would have hung up after he said he never read it. LoL that's when we all knew that this was going no where.

[@MrDigztheswagking]

DveMrth Nagbe most conversation with christians go no where

[@zhontac6194]

at least he's honest about his biblical ignorance.

[@Tonyblack261]

The sad thing is, this guy sounded terrified. He's be listening to scaremongers that prey on people's gullibility.

[@holdencaustic]

Exactly--- they could have de-escalated him, it may have prevented an act of violence or self mutilation. The guy sounded pretty unstable.

[@msanthropea13]

"people who have read it tell me." Enough said. Oh wait, "Alex Jones" We're done here.

[@ComradeDragon1957]

*sigh* Just *Sigh*

[@TheGillenium]

Bush...9/11...terrorists...you know?

[@greendragonreprised6885]

6:50 "Where does evil come from?' "Religion" --- Christopher Hitchens, in a debate with Frank Turek.

[@frankallen958]

***** You're more right than you know. In fact the Bible quoted God as saying he created evil.

[@GodJa420]

Frank Allen The book of Isaiah I think. He takes credit for creating darkness, evil, and all calamity.

[@frankallen958]

GodJa420 yeah, and hid it all in a fruit tree and told Adam and Eve, who obviously, if the story had any fact to it, were as naive and gullible as children. Face it, they were living in a perfect paradise. Where would they have developed the character and maturity to know not to eat a fruit that was forbidden. So God puts all the world's maladies along with the awareness that they didn't have clothes on, in a tree (what a fairy tale) and then tells a couple who are essentially children not to eat it. If God did not want them to it from that tree, then why, out of an entire universe did he stick it under their noses in a garden he made just for them? Really, it's no deeper or more realistic than Pandora's box. But why do people believe that this MAN and WOMAN have been running around the garden buck naked, and did not notice until they ate a fruit? Seriously.

[@frankallen958]

GodJa420 I'd also like to know why, if a God created everything, he populated the earth with all the animals, fish of the sea, birds the air, etc. etc. etc., but he only made one man? and one woman, of course. Why if God can create so much from nothing, just by speaking, he had to borrow a rib from Adam to make Eve? I know women, are complicated, but, seriously.

[@GodJa420]

Frank Allen Well Frank, it's part of god's "divine plan." -_- Also, if he is a god of infinite power why did he need to rest on the 7th day.

[@AStoicMaster]

You know, It's true because it's true and I feel it nam' sayin?

[@dballs52]

"I don't know, I've never read it." I spit RC all over my wall laughing

[@zacharyherron7829]

Dwyne S I think RC Cola is one of the strongest bits of evidence that there is a devil lol. But yeah, this caller is either a fraud or an idiot. Not sure which is worse.

[@AJM-timecop]

This conversation proves that religion definitely appeals to simple minds.

[@Blubai67]

Just as an example: 1939 to 1945....practically the whole world was at war with each other, millions murdered by war and genocide, nuclear weapons actually being used against other nations and he thinks that revelation is coming true now!

[@patrickkilduff5272]

yeah...because gay people are getting married...duh....

[@christobotha1700]

+Blubai67 - Read Daniel - The book in the Bible. You know that Book u despise. The Book that has outsold all books on the planet. The Book that has predicted all. The Book that has explained our path to where we are today. The Book that by which you live you life. The book that says your wife/husband should not cheat on you. The Book by which all nations on earth base their laws on. Then read Revelations. Are u ignorant or wilfully stupid. The Bible did not predict end of times during 2nd World War. That was the second warning. The last warning of seven must be in the future. As God said no man knows when this will be. I repeat, just in case you do not get it -The last warning will come when no man expects it. Then u can repent or face Gods Wrath. The God in the Bible is not a pushover - He is a God of War and u will feel His wrath. Anything u have imagined - and soo much more.There are many instances in the path of humankind that God has commanded His people to go to war. There is nobody or any nation on this flat earth that will overcome God. But He is a Loving and forgiving God - do what u have to.

[@Blubai67]

+Christo Botha You say "The God in the Bible is not a pushover - He is a God of War and u will feel His wrath.........But He is a Loving and forgiving God"....... You are George Carlin and I claim my $5! If you don't understand that reference, I suggest you read more than one book p.s. "Flat Earth".....Really??

[@polyorchid528]

Blubai67 Nuclear weapons were not used against nations. They were used against one nation. That nation was Japan and the two cities that were wiped out were full of civilians. And the nation that did it was America.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

Most Christians will just say that the last 110 years is part of the End Times. You can't win with these people.

[@lowdownshakinchill]

I love it when callers ask Matt if he ever been to church

[@bluetrilobite]

I'm going to open up a tin foil factory in the US. Business should be pretty good seeing all the people that need to make themselves hats.

[@davids11131113]

You do realize this is just a troll who calls to the show under many different names, while you've assigned this 1 lone nut prankster to be representative of 'all americans'? Personally I find this nationalism stuff to be just as bad as religions, in particular when it's a quantum leap based on nothing as in your case here.

[@robinvan1983]

davids11131113 what blasphemy law? did i missed something?

[@kathyheitchue6069]

bluetrilobite. LOL priceless commemt,just think how this will help this failing jobs market Get those tin hats going!

[@n2dabloo]

Life is hard. It's even harder when you're Alonzo.

[@SeraphinaAizen1]

This guy's a troll. He's phoned a bunch of times, with a bunch of different names, making different claims, and sometimes starts laughing at his own calls because he obviously thinks he's being clever. What a waste of time.

[@chrism3241]

"where did evil come from?" Well stable genius, according to your bible (that you have not read), god created evil. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7.

[@theparodychannel7842]

Ah listening to this in 2022...way beyond the revelation time period of 7 yrs..

[@MrHenstep1]

This caller must be an Alex Jones fan.

[@ianmathwiz7]

4:37 he even says "...and just like Alex Jones is saying..."

[@ShaynaLynn]

"Just like Alex Jones says..." That's your problem right there, dude.

[@connertucker5668]

I predict that the end of the world will be preceded by wars and destruction and famine and the government and stuff. Now build a religion around me and my divine wisdom.

[@karlrschneider]

Someday we will manage to determine if religion is the cause...or the result...of insanity. Then we'll have a good chance to cure both.

[@johnstover9083]

I've never read it, but whatever it says is true..... classic

[@dennispennington9773]

Yes, Revelation is coming true. Scientists are starting to view Jesus and the angels in the sky on horses and they are carrying swords and shields. Looks like Jesus is coming back for that great big war.

[@1990mato]

Are you joking or what?

[@dennispennington9773]

Some Bible thumpers really believe this.

[@B2BCreditandCollection]

what the fuck are you talking about Dennis

[@dennispennington9773]

Comments here appear to be about the You Tube video from Atheist Experience where the caller said the book of Revelation is coming true. Do I believe it? NO.

[@ComradeDragon1957]

+Michael Dennis +Dennis Pennington Dennis meet Mr Dennis.WTF.

[@ashleyerin7069]

Just wanna point out 14yrs later and the world still hasn't ended

[@MaulScarreign]

Why did he ask and then not even listen to what he said?

[@timhallas4275]

The interesting thing is that this guy is not unusual. So many people will argue from the Bible, without ever reading it. What's really depressing is they will base their lives on shit they were told, and never question it.

[@B2BCreditandCollection]

religion is a mental illness

[@timhallas4275]

Michael Dennis Religion itself is not the illness. Religion is the medicine that cures one of reason and disbelief.. The illness is irrational belief in the supernatural. In the most severe cases there is paranoid delusion, brought on by the belief in Hell and Satan. Believing in a god is actually just a common human weakness, that is caused by ignorance and inability to comprehend science.

[@3dge--runner]

this was so painful

[@davids11131113]

'Alonzo'....oh hi....how come you aren't calling in as Ruben or Oscar or Cesar today?

[@3dge--runner]

+davids11131113 it does sound like him right?

[@nordy2010]

As soon as the caller said Alex Jones, I just groaned. "Oh, damn, here we go..."

[@eternalskeptic6996]

ever notice when a caller says "right", they're totally not listening and/or immediately dispelling what the hosts are saying?

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

lol of coarse he's an Alex jones fan.

[@dubsydubs5234]

He's never read anything, he can't read I guarantee it.

[@Poseidon6363]

The ignorance of these religious folk is outstanding.

[@xct321]

"You gotta actually come up with a position". Quite possibly the funniest thing I heard all day.

[@ljrockstar69]

I want the drug that the caller is taking, I like to have hallucinations 🤤

[@nosuchthing8]

The caller is like someone that rushes in to a store to receive a refund, has never read the fine print, yet for some reason feels he never should read the fine print.

[@billthecat666]

This guy's the best! He's referring to a book he hasn't taken the time to read.

[@mithya]

The title song Myrrh by the Church band - criminally underrated

[@tedgrant2]

I love my dog very much and I respect his opinions. He thinks that food, sleep and walkees are good. So I asked him, "Do you believe in God? " and his reply was unambiguous. "Woof", which means, "God wants you to give me more cooked chicken".

[@clitniblr36]

8:51 Martin: "I need Advil at this point." Matt hangs his head exasperated. LOL! Too funny.

[@MrSubsound90]

The call should have ended at the point where he stated that he hasn't read it and doesn't know what's there, but believes they are coming true when he cannot name one. He is substituting his depressed mindset and fantasies of what needs to come true for what his faith says will come true. He claims to follow a book he hasn't read, and doesn't listen to anyone else, and thinks he is a good Christian when he doesn't even know how to be.

[@tedgrant2]

I spent 25 years trying to become mad and then I discovered there was no evidence for mad things so I stopped believing mad things and now I am happy.

[@ScarletLetter3a]

Additionally, common sense does not dictate a god necessarily has to exist. In fact every time we as a species have said: "Oh god does that" on things such as diseases and ailments, we found no god, instead we found germs, genetic deformities, and hereditary ailments. This applies to so many fields of study that common sense dictates that either god doesn't exist, or god doesn't want to be bothered by us.

[@karlrschneider]

When we finally determine whether religion is the cause...or the result...of insanity, we might be able to cure both.

[@vaserilo]

"5 years from now the world will change!" 11 years later: Nope

[@jeanbrodeur9667]

He claims he is an idiot, and has proven his case without a doubt.

[@tedgrant2]

On the day of judgement, a god will separate the sheep from the goats. I've never seen sheep and goats together, so I guess it won't take too long.

[@verticalhorizon4633]

Caller: "I've never read it, but I agree with it." How is that possible? It's not.

[@snarky77005]

Alonzo on the phone asked:" What's not coming true?" And Matt asked in response "What's not purple?" As if it would be worth his time to sit there and list everything that isn't purple. You could go on for years and still not get to the point. Same thing with the question: "What's not coming true?"

[@kingda117]

To some, it does. Humanity is still wrapped up in divisive chauvinism and keep on forgetting that you do not sleep well if your neighbours are going to bed on empty stomachs.

[@gotwess]

The problem is that there is this group of people who call themselves atheist, who make fun of, and talk bad about religion, especially Christianity! You automatically put yourself against them. What do you expect? There is nothing wrong with you believing what you want, but when you go out against what others believe in and spread lies about it, not to mention wanting to spread your (unbelief) in it which makes no sense. Also you put your faith in a lot of things, even in unbelief. Peace

[@ximowilson]

This video is sold old that it was subject to KZbin's 10 minute limit and had to be a 2 parter

[@gotwess]

3. Why do you care how I feel? How does the way I feel directly effect your life? It doesn't, it only effects your beliefs. I'm not the one who is causing any problems with this situation. I'm not protesting against anything, but only saying that I don't agree with it. You can't put this issue on me, cause if I were not even here everything would still be the same. Look at the big picture, and see that many feel the way they feel on the issue. Its pointless going after individuals

[@ashleyash9421]

We are born with a veil, and science is still in its infancy stage. We have all been given the opportunity to hear his word in our life.

[@richdandanell2911]

Wow ... That's sounds so deep . And yet it's so dumb .

[@jimappleby3545]

Linus and the Giant Pumpkin...

[@Carelock]

I didn’t know they made Revelations Cliffs Notes. Did he really say he got his info from Alex Jones?!?! 😆

[@043367747]

Part 7, sorry if this to too long for you. Nothing known to man has come from nothing. Everything on the earth came from something, earth itself came from something. The universe came from something, however we have yet to find out what it is. To skip finding out and just say "god did it" begs the question "what created god?". If the response is "god is eternal and has no beginning" why not just skip a step and say the universe is eternal and has no beginning? Don't be afraid of uncertainty

[@LPCLASSICAL]

Who would cite the book of revelation and then admit they never read it - they just go on what others have told them about it. This guy is beyond gullible.

[@PartialPenguin]

4:43 I lolled at Martins face with the cow on his shoulder. :P

[@gerrylk9]

The caller toyed with them both. He was just having fun

[@simonecrevecoeur7737]

Still waiting, still nothing happens...

[@rEsonansDx]

Those Revelations are either taken from the situations that already happened long ago, theories guessed by the wise people, and predictions that will never happen.

[@Penningtontj]

I think what he meant was "Millions of people have died since the time that Jesus was crucifed, up until the present day. They did not die for the sake of children's stories."

[@egyptianamericanpatriot1531]

I was waiting for him to talk about the Illuminati.

[@ImperialGoldfish]

My faith My faith in humanity Don't leave me Please

[@tarnishedangels424]

Considering I get my etymology right out of the dictionary, classical education, and understanding of linguistic evolution, while you get yours from watching TV, and suggested that I do the same, I'll take that as a compliment.

[@daviddavidson4322]

It's frightening to realise there are people like Alonzo in this world & I mean that most sincerely.

[@explosivoification]

I figured it didn't mean that but you wouldn't explain what you meant. The blade a wrestler cuts himself with? A 2 wheeled cart carried by horses? A harpoon like device? A gigabyte? A light boat? A person of odd or grotesque appearance? Something that whirls?

[@SamonMarquis]

This Theist convinced me. I liked his (lack thereof) arguments. Where can I sign up?

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

It kind of annoys me when I here someone asked in a confused way what happened to make them loose their Christianity. What happened was they decided to care whether or not there their religion was true and investigated it and thought about it and found that it was neither rational nor supported by evidence and didn't want to practice a religion that didn't have any evidence for it and wasn't rational.

[@pdoylemi]

What they meant was, when challenged to say what has not come true from revelations by the caller, there were myriad choices they had to choose from. Pretty much anything in the book. So they were basically saying, "we don't have time to deconstruct every Bible prophesy to prove you wrong - give us an example of what you think IS coming true. Don't call unless you know what you are talking about, and don't ask us to refute the entire Bible" (i.e. show you everything that isn't purple).

[@glenfennell]

just like many christians....he hasn,t read the bible

[@tedgrant2]

And that was the short version !

[@tarnishedangels424]

I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying that if no one questioned it, we would have gotten no further.

[@dfadden62]

The guy doesn't listen to the answers once he asks the questions. He's clearly wanting to say his next statement rather than listen to the show-hosts' response.

[@gotwess]

Out of all other religions that I have studied I find that Christianity holds together the best and seems to be the most truthful to me. Surely there are things in the Bible that I don't understand, but that has no validity of whether or not it is True or false. I see no bad in following the Ten commandments, and following the message of Jesus Christ. The resounding message of the Bible is to Love everyone, and to take care of others. Even those who do you wrong, and I can see the wisdom in it.

[@jeffrydevenyns3608]

Alonzo: "Devil BAAAAAD! God GOOOOOOOOD!"

[@ComradeDragon1957]

TWO LEGS BAAAAAD FOUR LEGS GOO-Oh wait wrong book.

[@jeffrydevenyns3608]

Tiny penis BAAAAAAD! Huge penis GOOOOOOD! (or, so says my wife. When she refers to my tiny penis)

[@deanosumo]

"I don't go to church much, I haven't read the Bible, but I believe in God'. Ah, what an intelligent caller.

[@043367747]

Correction: There is some evidence that shows that certain events and locations in the bible are true. The rest is just assumed correct because of the obvious truths like locations and dates. As for the prophecy you mentioned, I'm not sure which one you are referring to. Would you care to clarify?

[@BaronVonQuiply]

"Revelation is coming true 'cause word salad."

[@KirkSH52]

This would be a great commercial for Advil. I need one now for real.

[@sheezamann2724]

i've noticed in some of the churches, lately, there are a lot of "old" people.......not to many young

[@AirSandFire]

"Everything in Revelation is coming true. But I never read it."

[@ryanewy8737]

This wacko is probably selling pencils from a cup right now.

[@polyorchid528]

This caller is a bit mad. Some one needs to pray for him.

[@KirkSH52]

There's a reason for the sunshinin' sky And there's a reason why I'm feelin' so high Must be the season when that Love light shines all around us So, let that feelin' grab you deep inside And send you reelin' where your love can't hide And then go stealin' through the Moonlit nights with your lover Just let your love flow like a mountain stream And let your love grow with the smallest of dreams And let your love show and you'll know what I mean It's the season Let your love fly like a bird on a wing And let your love bind you to all livin' things And let your love shine and you'll know what I mean That's the reason There's a reason for the warm sweet nights And there's a reason for the candlelights Must be the season when those Love lights shine all around us So, let that wonder take you into space And lay you under its loving embrace Just feel the thunder as it warms your face You can't hold back Just let your love flow like a mountain stream And let your love grow with the smallest of dreams And let your love show and you'll know what I mean It's the season Let your love fly like a bird on a wing And let your love bind you to all livin' things And let your love shine and you'll know what I mean That's the reason Just let your love flow like a mountain stream And let your love grow with the smallest of dreams And let your love show and you'll know what I mean It's the season Let your love fly like a bird on a wing And let your love bind you to all livin' things And let your love shine and you'll know what I mean That's the reason Just let your love flow like a mountain stream And let your love grow

[@Segismundo2011]

Is there music to go with the words?

[@i8five4u]

Thanks...Now I can sing the right words and will no longer sound like Homer Simpson. I used to love that song. Doh...Giving away my age.

[@Harpua1971]

But but but cause feels

[@tarnishedangels424]

Merriam-Webster Dictionary: 1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god 2 : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something Greek agnōstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnōstos known, from gignōskein to know So why are you arguing with me about this again?

[@inphanta]

I am truly shocked and stunned by that caller's ignorance. "What's not coming true!?". Really!? You make claims about a book you've never even read, and when you're presented with counter points, you just grunt inanely and keep on babbling? How is it someone can be so stupid and not actually realise it?

[@pelgrim8640]

Should have hung up the moment that caller said he never even read it.

[@tarnishedangels424]

It's like the difference between sapience and sentience. In a movie or book, we all know what they mean when they say 'sentient'. it means said being can think and understand it's own existence. Like people do. But literally, sentience means 'the ability to have a sense' which applies to every living thing ever discovered, with the exception of the adult Sea Squirt. The word they literally should be using is sapience, which is the ability to understand one's existence. continued...

[@AlbertAguirre]

1) I can see how you think I am lying and fighting. Again, to me its more like studying human behavior. I present bible contradictions to christians and I love to watch them dance around it to make it fit reality. 2) I never called people stupid, however, you called me stupid. Hypocrisy? How am I calling people stupid? Could you please explain? 3) Wrong. It is the religious that divide the world. If you would leave other alone to live as they please we would not be having this conversation.

[@Love6653]

And You??

[@Punkekito123]

What makes you believe that? What justification do you have to believe what you believe?

[@grimsoncrow]

Even I've read Revelations. I think it's overrated, but I'd love to smoke some of whatever John was having.