FFXIV Endwalker - Hydaelyn EXTREME Trial Guide

[@gabrielmartin2197]

To all who's gonna take it first time. Chill, you can do it! I started extremes with EW and in one day I tanked Ex1 7 times and dps Ex2 9 times. With a good group its gold and very fun! Good luck! I was the most scared and soon I can even guide it :D Also on the first clear of Ex2 I even won the mount, still can't believe it T_T

[@daikennett]

This was the comment I needed! Thanks!

[@Zzues]

Spent two hours wiping on this and best attempt was 13%. Might try again but think I am too old now to remember all of these bajillion mechanics!

[@gabrielmartin2197]

@@Zzues You can do it. We cleared after 1,5hrs... - put up waymarks - mark two healers group 1-2 - easier to listen to crystallize: water, ice, earth - red icons go in, green icons run away, blue icons cross attack - right after these if water group 1-2 at their marks / stack, if ice spread around / don't overlap, if earth stack together - at phase 3 just line up with opposite crystals These are the core things to remember. Rest is nicely detailed in this guide! Hope you can clear soon!

[@Maioly]

I really wanna try it... but i am terrified due to playing with slight lag and had HORRIBLE experiences with previous attempts at ex trials

[@gabrielmartin2197]

Since then I started doing EW savages, recleared P4 three times already as tank. You guys can do it!!!!

[@LoverofChildren]

It's so wild that I remember watching your Ravana EX guide years ago, and now we're here. At Journey's End. Thanks for all the years of service Mrhappy 😤

[@Anon2496]

Holy fuck there's so much information to absorb. Mom literally has endless tricks.

[@HDREconomist]

Everyone in this comment section like 'Oh its so easy' meanwhile I've been trying for three days and haven't gotten it despite watching guides and grinding away... Feel real small right now.

[@mattblazefire7999]

I personally find this fights mechanics easier for me to understand but this fight is way more dependentant on party members than Ex1 so that makes it harder

[@JennyTomlinson100]

Me too

[@KagatoIuchi]

I've been trying it for days. I do fine on most of it except the parhelion part where sometime I get clipped due to being melee. Unfortunately, every group I've been in doesn't make it to enrage. Edit: No one really cares but managed to clear it last night. I think the most difficult parts are the scatter mechanics when it's not discussed; very easy to accidentally bunch up with someone else during the post-lightwave scatter.

[@iorivalkyrjur5783]

not a hard fight per se, but sure is an intense one

[@Thatbeardedguy86]

@@mattblazefire7999 This must be the issue for me. I find EX1 extremely simple but I haven't been able to clear this one yet.

[@KonDragon008]

Thanks for the guide! I hate the phases where we have to hide behind the crystals because they have such a small safe spot to block the explosions. Often times, one or two of us might be a couple literal pixels to the left or right and get hit by it. x.x Haven't gotten a clear yet, but we did hit enrage (cast was pretty quick, which surprised me) so I'm hopeful.

[@Edge9404]

Did you clear?

[@KonDragon008]

@@Edge9404 We cleared it today, yup!

[@gabrielmartin2197]

At crystals just line up exactly to the opposite crystals whichever the wave hits first. Like this I was never hit by them.

[@KonDragon008]

@@gabrielmartin2197 I know how the mechanic works by now, I just often have trouble seeing the edges of the crystal because it has a bright glow (and even with my tinted glasses on, it still doesn't filter all of it out). Thankfully, my FC mates are really cool and don't mind that I just follow them for that mechanic.

[@itmealice]

this fight is really fun but also really rough as a healer if your party dies more than a couple of times, pretty hard to recover

[@lol2skills]

Literally is what happening to me haha

[@SpydersByte]

I dont understand how people heal extremes or savages. I'm all 80s (and now a few 90s) and I feel comfortable on dps or tank anywhere but healing stresses me the fuck out, even in normal trials and raids. I give massive props to anyone who does it.

[@madman4043]

@@SpydersByte honestly the more you do it, it kind of just loses its edge and becomes just another thing you do

[@danlockhart6465]

@@SpydersByte You see, I’m the opposite. Dpsing is super stress-free, healing is more involved so more fun for me since I have more to deal with on the fly. Add in to the mix, my AST cards, and I’m kept busy haha. But I don’t have a single tank. That seems stressful to me. And having to coordinate with the co-tank? Bleh, idk. Ty for taking the hits for us 😅😂

[@hhaavvvvii]

@@SpydersByte In this one, as long as people aren't messing up mechanics, the only thing to heal are the occasional roomwide hits. And even if people are messing up mechanics occasionally, you can usually use a small single-target heal targeting them from the player list.

[@herpderp9108]

Doesn't hurt when your DPS is competent too, and I'm not talking mechanics. Gotten to enrage a few times, but as a healer, it makes me want to claw my eyes out when you're racing to spread during LW3 and people are running TOWARDS the number over your head.

[@bladenine]

My brain….. hurts…. But let’s do this!!!!!

[@mmtv9511]

This is my 1st exp from the start, I hope these are the easy trials just to get your feet wet with extreme if you are new. :)

[@jaythemonsterhunter2705]

the first 2 trials are not done to be super hard they are more done to get you started with extremes and to get used to your new level cap stuff

[@pyro5159]

@@jaythemonsterhunter2705 wasn't Hades the hardest trial in Shadowbringers

[@pyro5159]

Wait nevermind that was the 3rd

[@oui7171]

How was diamond the hardest that shit was super easy

[@napalmbones]

You really, really, really should redact the title of the boss for this guide, I'm kind of shocked that it's in the title. A lot of people are going to have their MSQ experience spoiled by it.

[@SenseiCosmo]

No one cares

[@briggan9444]

sry but you get people in chat saying hyd all the time u figure it out just from that

[@nope7543]

Yeeap spoiled it for me :( Might as well learn the fight early

[@KenleyCheung]

Thanks for the guide!

[@SetsunaInoue]

Party finder has been so hit or miss with this one, but its really not a hard fight

[@rheizel120]

Funny to see though. None of the DPS's survived the first light wave, no matter how many times we did it

[@LaPlaga88]

Make a max ilvl party and you will get assured clears , that's what I do now.

[@L3nkun]

it's not hard i agree but for some reason, during chakram, everyone shuts off their brain xD

[@liamwilson7549]

If anyone has doubts after watching this guide let me tell you I beat this as a healer without watching any guides. Just figured it out over time, I came here to link this to a friend to help them out :)

[@anthonyzheng7274]

I watched this video for a bit, felt overwhelmed with the information overload. Went into it blind, followed some doritos, found out that experience alone is more insightful than any video.

[@Thatbeardedguy86]

Yep exactly this. The biggest problem I had in my PF group was the OT kept following me everywhere like a lost puppy. Even when I said not to. So we kept dying to stacked ice and water. XD

[@novapophis]

Yes but having some context which to explain what killed you so you can learn faster is important and helpful as well for some

[@LightxItxUp]

I agree, I think the video helps more once you’ve tried it

[@zack11189]

I really hope the Crystal Data Center sees this video because for some stupid ass reason they decided dps stay, tanks mid, and healers far for Lightwave 1. And as a melee, fuck, that.

[@RMidcat]

DPS stay is the kindest pattern for black mages, since that section is really the only opportunity they have to use their leylines for a long time. Heals should absolutely be middle though. According to my group melees don't really have uptime at all during this section.

[@zack11189]

@@RMidcat melee absolutely have uptime without risk of getting hit at mid crystal

[@kojoe27]

@@RMidcat you can melee from the mid crystal

[@daniellej2719]

As someone from the Crystal Data Center, I have watched this guide several times already so if we ever encounter each other in PF hopefully I’m one less person you have to worry about lol

[@zack11189]

@@daniellej2719 Honestly since this video it has gotten way better.

[@thepaparya]

just beat zodiark and farmed his ass like 10 times now its time to get this done ;-; (im happy i got in the green rank for zodiark lmao)

[@ZaneLionhartffxiv]

Agree fight sucks but I won after two deaths lol. Only issue was waves and spread during waves.

[@cherrydragon3120]

Great guide, now with the bit stronger gear, me and my fc were able to shave off enough time to skip Phase 3 :) I bet this won't be the case once we move on the battles like the final day or mount ordeal. 😂 but yeah, its fun finishing endwalker extremes. Gives a feeling of accomplishment. Wud be better if they werent so damn greedy and not drop the mount!

[@rohansimha7625]

mechanics are easy once you try it a couple times the only part that I really suck at is lightwaves, I feel like I'm behind the crystal but I'm not

[@johnoliver4469]

Hydaelyn isn't challenging you anymore. She's actively trying to take you out. 😆

[@jewii3824]

it would be so TREMENDOUSLY helpful if guides like this actually assigned ppl with numbers, i.e. D1, D2, D3, D4, H1, H2, and tells where exactly each player goes during messy mechanics like 'first everyone gather for donut AOE, then spread out'. Both Japanese and Chinese guides do this, so everyone who's watched it wouldn't mess up something so simple.

[@ErrorGameManiac]

I dont know why japanese people do it but what ever its not hard literally you only need to stay together for water part and separate for ice part, neither is hard or require players to be assigned. as long as people know they belong to group one or two its done deal, only thing to worry in this fight is not getting lost in the mechanics which stops happening when you know the mechanics well.. Practice makes it perfect. "first everyone gather for donut AOE, then spread out"-- I dont get the problem here, you get close because she uses chakras, then because shes in ice mode everyone spreads out to not share the ice aoe as it will kill them, only logic required here is dont be close to one another thats it. even if you use half of the arena you still have enough space so there no strat needed. its just basic stuff.

[@Mrhappy1227]

Quite frankly NA is WAY too lazy to do even basic assignments half the time. One time I had someone use a macro with all the usual D1-4, H1/2 and T1/2 and the fucking tank called the H2 position. I was losing my mind.

[@jewii3824]

@@Mrhappy1227 Hahaha that's hillairous. Im just frustrated when two people constantly run with each other and die from two circle AOEs, when the mechanic itself is so simple. Not criticizing your guide tho. It's still VERY helpful.

[@jewii3824]

@@ErrorGameManiac yes again it's a very very very simple mechanic. Which is why it's even more frustrating when two people end up running left and right together trying to avoid each other, only to kill them both. With a simple number assignment, none of this would ever happen. So neat and simple.

[@ErrorGameManiac]

@@jewii3824 for random party in party finder having assigned people would make more mistakes then just reacting to one another movement, it definitely would work in static and and would be a superior strategy but with randoms this would be a massive waste of time, i had few runs now with random people and so far no one died to ice as its not too hard to react, though I am sure soon enough I will have a party that reacts the same way and 2 players will end up wiping them selfs out :D

[@nickahn7054]

14:58 did you just say “NOT that difficult”?!?!????

[@Tiglath-Pileser3]

Curious if people are finding this more or less difficult than the other EX. Haven't tried this yet, brain is too smooth to remember both fights.

[@sgbsflgbsf]

I much prefer this than the other ex. The move where he flies around the arena shooting aoe's gets me everytime. I ended up just following the tank to get my first clear lol

[@deadpxn3517]

Yeah this is a lot easier, nothing in this fight is as complex as arena rotation stuff

[@unnamed_protagonist]

I beat the other one in about 2 hours of prog. This one i just spent about 7 hours and still haven't cleared it, but have gotten to enrage several times

[@Lagiacrus1996]

@@deadpxn3517 The other fight just needs a single person who knows what they're doing. Just stand on that person, and you clear it.

[@LaPlaga88]

This fight is harder than the other for the simple fact that you mess up here, you can get multiple people killed , if you mess up in the other one , usually only you dies.

[@jackmorby6001]

first vid i watched, liked and subbed, wp and good video making. ty

[@scarecrowhobo]

Happy you need to redo that diagram for lightwaves 3 i kept dying cuz i kept thinking waves spawn W/E

[@johnm.2785]

KZbin auto play really just did me should've been paying attention😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@passel5953]

F

[@ipKonfig]

I have all 3 of these Trials open but I'm so confused why they're not Extreme, how do you open the Extreme ?

[@Tekshipie]

Once you've completed the regular mode of the trials, you have to talk to the Wandering Minstrel by the docks of Old Sharlayan. He unlocks the extreme versions of trials after you've completed the normal versions. There is no extreme trial for Endsinger YET.

[@ipKonfig]

@@Tekshipie did all as normal but not seeing that NPC has no icon anymore. Just normal NPC :(

[@Mrhappy1227]

Use the High-end Duty option not the Regular Duty option in DF if you already spoke to the NPC

[@tsuribachi]

I keep thinking "Aureole" as "Oero" XD

[@lmildrum]

My FC farmed trial 1 ex and got a clear after like, 6 or 7 attempts followed by like 6 straight clears. We're going in to this trial in another, like, hour and a half together to get clears too. Diamond was my first, on content extreme clear, so hoping to keep it going through EW

[@pyro5159]

Btw like with Titania it's easier than a guide will make it seem

[@nikhilnair4359]

Mr Happy has an attractive voice idk ngl

[@NeoSaturos123]

Mizzteq made sure to title her guide for this fight The Minstrel's Ballad: [REDACTED] EX2 Guide, so as to keep people from getting spoiled. You just put Hydaelyn Extreme right there in the title. Thanks a lot. I at least got the cutscenes after defeating Zodiark, my first thought after which was "so is Hydealyn evil now?" but this premature reveal is still very unwelcome.

[@KingSteve13]

Happs had it redacted for a while and JUST removed those recently.

[@Mrhappy1227]

Yeah this was redacted for like 5-6 days. Have to change it eventually

[@hexlart8481]

you'll look back on this and laugh

[@NeoSaturos123]

@@Mrhappy1227 Still, unredacting the boss name (a huge spoiler in itself unlike most other Trial and Raid boss names including Zodiark) barely 3 weeks after Early Access start is a bit fast, don't you think. Especially with the login and queue issues big enough for SE to give everybody 3 weeks extra subscription. You could have waited until New Year's at least, or until a month since expansion release, I think.

[@mattblazefire7999]

@@NeoSaturos123 If you cared about being spoiled on youtube you should have setup another youtube account with no ff reccomendations not blame it on Happy it has also been 3 weeks since the expansion release which is more than enough time to beat the game and even if that wasn't enough you could have stayed off youtube.

[@downykitten6439]

So what I'm hearing is, there's gonna be alot of rezzing going on. 95 mechanics later, you might get the w.

[@marvolotexan]

It's not as bad as it seems, like most hard content in this game. I am a terrible player and have cleared this 3 times now haha. Once you learn everything, it becomes muscle memory and easy. Also, Cactbot addon for ACT makes this fight easy as hell.

[@downykitten6439]

@@marvolotexan I don't think it warrants overlay cheats. Personally, I'd rather experience the content for what it is, even if it's shitty 90s era Nintendo raid mechanics where you're set up to die so that eventually you know whats coming. Imagine if raid mechanics were randomized...

[@marvolotexan]

@@downykitten6439 I mean yeah. But addons and what not have been around for MMOs forever. Look at DBM for WoW or Gina for EverQuest. I’m not saying you have to use these tools, but it’s ok to do so, and the devs seem to be ok with it at least. By all means, I love doing fights blind. I just like once I’ve learned a fight to be more efficient.

[@downykitten6439]

@Universe then maybe they're not as "pro" as they'd like to fancy themselves.

[@Dragonfire2505]

@Universe Pros need help from programms the Devs dont want them to use? Good pros...

[@Dysapera]

Jokes on you, I haven't got any chance besides a late night 4am run to practise Hyadaelyn EX AT ALL. Feels Reaper man, can't wait for everyone to jump off of Reaper for the next big shiny class... Edit: One day later and many tries with what felt like 100 different groups, I cleared it as a tank, now I'm gonna leech in duty complete groups with my Reaper hahahaha

[@uGenxile79]

I really wish I could do ex. Trying to keep my rotation as monk and do mechanics = me watching most the fight from the floor.

[@biggle_man]

you just need to practice, and the only way to practice is to get in there.

[@serfraust]

I can top our DPS chart and not die during the encounter but I've still yet to make a clear. Either the other members DPS is too low or they're dying in various spots. Update: Got a clear finally and my weapon. Parties afterwards clear easily. It's just a matter of getting your first. :P

[@Zerooppositon]

Is this one harder than zodiark?

[@MB-em9ek]

Personally I think it's a bit easier than Zodiark. No sneaky snakes. However if someone knows really well Zodiark strat then you just have to follow him/her to avoid mechanics.

[@Thomastm33]

@@MB-em9ek This is harder than Zodiark due to other party members responsibility. The amount of times a tank or dps die to 1 mechanic can just throw everything off.

[@MB-em9ek]

@@Thomastm33 Yeah I agree with you. It was just from my perspective. Most of the fails happened when a healer forgot the water element or when the group forgot the Aureole/lateral aureole after the chakram phase. But now I never fail a mechanic on Hydaelyn whereas I sometimes take an Aoe from the snakes on Zodiark.

[@Zibi21]

From my perspective it looks like its easier than zodiark, you have constantly imagine platform rotation to avoid other mechanics and do damage at the same time...it can mess your head a lot, here you have just to pay attention to what weapon she has and what element she gets.

[@Dragonfire2505]

Uff. Normal Hydaelyn was fine. But this is a whole new fight with to much mechanics for me. Guess i will stay with 570 gear.

[@JennyTomlinson100]

What item level do you recommend would make this easiest? I'm only the minimum for the trial

[@mattblazefire7999]

What I did was just farm Zodiark for the accessories then bought the moonward gear then farmed Hydaelan for thr wepon

[@hhaavvvvii]

For easiest, the highest you can get it. And don't forget to meld your materia.

[@hexlart8481]

I'd say if you're feeling uncomfortable with your gear then wait until you are at the minimum ilevel for pandemonium, ilevel 565. Doing roulettes will give you tomestones of aphorism if you are level 90 and it should only take a day or two, and maybe a couple expert roulettes, to get you to 565. Don't forget materia and if you want to go above and beyond try getting the pandemonium accessories, you can grab them quick since they each only need 1 item to get (this is also your best bet for replacing a low level ring since you can't have 2 moonward rings).

[@TuroMM]

That's a HUGE spoiler on the title

[@corruption191]

I can't tell if I'm better at the game or these EXs are easier than Shb ones. But still was a super fun one even though I got it done in an hour or two.

[@Shorkshire]

This is so confusing I cant handle this shit. Why do they design encounters like this all the time ughhh

[@rryyddeerr]

You can do it bro. Never think you can't learn this stuff or clear it. I used to be the same way, just be patient with yourself and find people who will be patient and you'll get it done. It'll be rough, but trust me, with time it'll just become second nature.

[@conorhennell2623]

you learn each mechanic as you go, after a few hours of doing it you just autopilot the mechanics, really isnt as hard as it looks

[@Shorkshire]

@@conorhennell2623 I get kicked for messing up all the time and my FC static never lets me come with them :(

[@conorhennell2623]

@@Shorkshire watch a few guides then join groups in party finder for practice from start or something, usually there's groups going blind from the start

[@Arbancks]

its a relief to see im not alone here, i have been struggling through this fight, there are soo many minute details to remember its frustrating

[@rohansimha7625]

you'll probably be fine in the party finder he says heheheheh no

[@Keryusupercoologuy]

(joking) OMG TITAN SO BIG SUMMONER GRIEFING PARTY!!

[@kuposceptre]

lol yea such a shame people do not understand its there option they need to change for avatar size.I gave up telling people tbh

[@cailee9820]

@@kuposceptre I have a macro now that says "if my summons are bothering you, try /petsize all small !"

[@glennvoidsen]

I talk to the menestrel in old Sharlayan but i can't select the extreme version of this trials in the duty finder

[@Thomastm33]

You have to click on raid finder. It's under duty finder. Or click high end duty at the top of duty finder to switch.

[@glennvoidsen]

@@Thomastm33 a friends of mine has already helped me but thanks for the answers , mate !

[@JDxxxxxx]

It’s a high end duty it’s not under normal extreme like the other extreme trials

[@rndm2655]

Herosis

[@sanosukesagara6104]

12:13 Another guide that doesnt says how to tell if it's Aureole or Lateral Aureole. Thanks for nothing I guess.

[@onee-sama]

It's called reading the cast bar. Where do you think they got the attack names from?

[@sanosukesagara6104]

@@onee-sama I will add " (sarcasm) " at the end next time, it's a meme. But tbf I can see why it can be taken the wrong way.

[@johnswanson1977]

Wish I could do it I can’t even practice it.

[@freyavaleria21]

It's dogshit anyway, there is a new raid coming in 2 weeks and you'll be able to get a 580 weapon from pandaemonium of you farm it once a week.

[@jonielshuke4054]

You literally went ahead and probably spoiled ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT key plot points for this entire expansion. Not cool dude. /unlike, /unsub

[@Dragonfire2505]

Not exactly. Before the release, most people where 100% sure, we will fight Zodiarc AND Hydaelyn. And the "key plot point" why we fight her isnt spoiled here.

[@Dwayneff]

yeah, no thanks. looks like i'm not getting the mount.

[@michaelflores6253]

It’s honestly so much easier than it looks. It’s not hard whatsoever

[@twink4christ]

@@michaelflores6253 exactly, took me literally 3 hours in pf yesterday to clear it with a blind party

[@KCYON]

@@twink4christ same!

[@Umbra.Cosmic]

@@twink4christ Did you get in voice chat or just planned with typing?

[@korrul]

It's interesting how quickly it starts flowing. Yeah, it's still taxing and you can mess up, but overall you feel your mastery over it growing. Sound cues were a godssend for me, others preferred visual ones