FFXIV: Endwalker Marauder/Warrior 1 to 90 Leveling Skills Guide

[@Prestige_00]

Anyone else like watching these for fun, for me it's really cool to see how all the classes work in this kind of format. Thanks so much for the videos!

[@Scerttle]

I've capped everything but I still watch them cause it's not surprising to find out something helpful, and yea, Wesk is an entertaining dude.

[@gregariousgaming9787]

I literally only started playing other jobs after watching these videos because the leveling and rotation seemed so foreign to me. A few jobs the rotation changed but these guides are a godsend for starting out.

[@billrobert3226]

yup

[@williamharris5663]

Literally started the game as marauder about 10 hours ago. Brilliant timing, have a sub!

[@pbrejao]

one of us, one of us!

[@ShermTank7272]

Welcome to Eorzea!

[@OfficialDjTalksick]

Ubunga bunga bruddah

[@elixir478]

I HIGHLY recommend making a macro for holmgang that targets you for the cast. This gets rid of all the downsides of the chain and all the upsides of the action.

[@randominternetsurfersurfin7595]

How do I do that?

[@elixir478]

@@randominternetsurfersurfin7595 I'm probably not gonna give the best explanation but you go under System > User Macros > then you lick on one of the icons and type a command each line. The one I use is /merror off /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /ac "Holmgang" /micon "Holmgang" then you just add it like you add an action to your hotbar

[@randominternetsurfersurfin7595]

@@elixir478 thx

[@keroro407]

Can you still move of you target yourself with holmgang?

[@elixir478]

@@keroro407 yes. it just gives you the buff of holmgang with no downsides of having the chain, no binding of target orenemy required and it technically has no range since you can't move away from yourself

[@burtwonk]

Thank you so much for the hours of crucial guides!

[@TheLunarLegend]

Gunbreaker: I use cartridges to unleash combos and combos within combos Paladin: I use my shield to defend myself and alternate between physical and magical attacks. Dark knight: I unleash my inner darkness to fight alongside it. Warrior: Fel cleave go whoosh!

[@JulieLamia]

No thoughts head angry

[@the0s0ph1st]

Ungga bungga

[@SinHurr]

The ol' WoW saying: Warriors just. fucking. do it.

[@mrhazeck6084]

Warrior: bonk

[@TheDaxter11]

Warrior smash!

[@sevntohno8728]

The CHAOS backings were too much not to make me choke on laughter.

[@niqourano3073]

I knew I wasn’t the only one hearing the C H A O S 🤣🤣🤣

[@guilhermecoraldiehl6376]

inner C H A O S

[@rinotattini9902]

Minor thing also that can be useful for boss tanking: Primal rend and Inner chaos/Chaotic cyclone force a crit heal with bloodwhetting which can mean that instead of healing 1600 potency over 4 gcd is more like 2320 potency if you crit heal 3 gcds (with current best in slot crit modifiers is around 60% more damage/heal with crits)

[@JJBeauregard1]

I don't nearly play every class in this game but your guides are so good and detailed I can come check out a specific ability of a class and know exactly what it does. For example, I can check out the invulnerabilities of the tanks so I know how to play around them when I'm playing healer. These guides are so incredibly helpful, thank you so much!

[@amyreo1119]

MAN the fact that you put the Onslaught BGM from FFXI as you talked about the Onslaught skill is just.. genius. Love you for that xD And great guide as usual, thanks!

[@GeriAttric]

Thank you for these well-presented class guides. I came back to FFXIV about three months ago. In 2018 WAR was my main. Upon returning, I was literally afraid to tank. This due to my prolonged absence. I had forgotten much regarding various dungeon mechanics and the WAR has evolved since 2018. So, you taught me to play SMN, currently wrapping up MSQ. I really missed tanking and now I have your guide to help me get my tank legs back. 👍

[@SinHurr]

I'm always afraid to tank so don't feel too bad.

[@VainEldritch]

Another great guide, Wesk - thank you very much for all your effort and hard work, these guides are gold. Looking forward to the DRK. Thanks again, mate.

[@SleepyDullahan]

Really appreciate this, never got far enough in an MMO to really have to worry about these sort of things so jumping back into 14 after years, I find this sort of from the ground up explanation really useful.

[@kai-spy4921]

I'm a very smooth-brained player who loves Dancer and WhiteMage due to their simplicity. I avoided all other Classes like the plague due to it being kinda confusing to me. Thank you SO MUCH for giving me a simple Tank guide that I can easily follow along to! You gave me a reason to play a Tank now! (I love The Balance, don't get me wrong, but the way they word things confuses me so much)

[@adamm3790]

These guides are literally 🔥Thank you!

[@celestial_illusions]

me, who beat current savage tier on WAR: "ah, perfect"

[@eijiro-gz2ik]

I remember watching your videos in 2020 as a senior in high school, now I’m finishing college and getting back into the game after a long hiatus, I really just want to say that I appreciate these Job guides man

[@probablyhuman632]

I like how the devs just keep adding to inner release. At the rate they’re adding to it, I wouldn’t be surprised if in 7.0 they let it also do your taxes.

[@WeskAlber]

If anything they removed things from IR so not sure what you mean

[@obklutzy]

Of all the guides on KZbin your series has helped me understand classes i had no clue how to start

[@selenang2006]

Juz wanna say yr guide is by far the best. Detailed, clear and nicely done. Thx

[@raphaelhuwyler6640]

Little tip: If you won't need vengence later, pop it after heavy swing during the opener, it gets potion+raid buffs. It is even back up for 3 min buffs Wait, wrong expansion. Anyways, its a nice little 285 potency on average. It's usually the best moment to use it for damage as the bosses like to cast (so no attack to counter) at 10s interavals (talking about the current door boss in the last fight of the tier specificially), however you have about 20s during the start where they just auto, so counter hits go brrrrt.

[@KidDynamite22]

Not sure how many times I've commented on this vid but just a quick comment to to say that the thumbnail is hilarious, literally cheers me up every time I see it 🤣

[@KC_604]

Thanks for this cuz I couldn’t figure out why nascent flash was working when I was clicking it now I understand why so GG on the video dude

[@cthulhulvl35illithid]

this is honestly the best guide i have ever seen for an mmo and deserves way more views than it has.

[@CeaseNY]

And he does one for every class! SE should hire him at this point, Guide God Wesk!

[@wb3159]

I use your guides all the time. Thank you for the time you spent on them.

[@pbrejao]

HIghlight: Good skill get gooder Also I love watching wesks videos and learning that I should really really starting reading tooltips for i never used warrior's heal on target on my sidetank -=x

[@yackparano]

The edit on "Chaos" is so good :D

[@artaiusazure4794]

Chaos! Great videos, Wesk.

[@zomboni1312]

Quite literally just started Maurader a couple minutes ago. What great timing

[@DeathofaNote]

Wesk your guides are fucking awesome and you are awesome. Thank you for what you provide to the community!

[@ionutalexandru3645]

I have been playing for a year and a half and as a tank main I know all of these but for some reason I love watching these types of videos!

[@AlxndrMitch]

You're constantly releasing for jobs that I start lvling which is crazy to me ily

[@TheRabbit68]

On roleplaying realms it's required to /yell "GRIFFITH!!!" whenever casting Berserk.

[@Theophonis]

Highly recommend a deathcore playlist while raiding as WAR.

[@lorde.greymon515]

Alight Jack, chill out. Amazing video. It’s my first ever MMO and this is great, went for Marauder my first time around.

[@Jackerler20001]

Thanks for the video! My friend and I started playing FFXIV and I choose to be the marauder tank, this video is very helpful.

[@CanisMythson]

I wanna point out a trick nobody seems to notice: Your heals on Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting are autocrits too when you use your Infuriate special attacks

[@Amovetv]

Another hit. Big win. Thank you.

[@bluesrike]

Holmgang: Wanna see me pull every dungeon mob? Raw Intuition: Wanna see me do it again?

[@AaronWGaming]

As a note may be better to hold Berserk until you do the 123 3 times then use 1 and 2 again Berserk Inner Beast Inner Beast Storms Path

[@grantcactus9973]

I’m still finishing ARR and was curious when the hype about warriors never dying would kick in… now I see

[@tbwlac]

Finally!!! I was waiting for this one!!

[@iPlayOnSpica]

I don't know if this makes much difference above level 70, but at least at level 70, I've noticed that I can use Inner Release quite early and still hold on to Fell Cleave stacks until after Storm's Eye. This is unlike Berserk where the next three gcds spend the three stacks. The only reason I would see Inner Release be delayed a little is if I expect an incoming debuff just beyond the first 15-16s of combat.

[@Thirtyleven]

been happily leveling a warrior alt, patiently waiting for my aoe Beast Gauge generator 🙃

[@manadrivexl]

I dunno if I'd agree with conal AoE being superior to circular AoE for Overwhelm. Of course I got used to it as I leveled, but I much preferred the other tanks' circular AoE attacks more than the cone, and never thought it synergized well with Mythril Tempest, since Tempest is a circular combo action. I understand if you prefer The Dreaded Cone™ instead, there is something to be said about always being ahead of a pack rather than dead set in the middle of it.

[@WeskAlber]

Turn Tempest into a cone then. Due to how geometry tends to work out, a wide cone often ends up being effectively bigger even if the area is smaller. The range of overpower made it amazing for hit and run in wall to wall pulls. Instead of having to tomahawk because enemies were spread apart too far for a circle, you'd just Overpower and keep running. Picking the furthest enemy, you'd hit all of them. It makes sense for all your aoe to be the same shape, but as a DRG main I've become extremely proficient at aiming lines and cones. And also as you say, it is good when you are NOT in the middle of enemies for safety. On top of: Its better tanking. Even with PLD/etc needing to be in the middle of enemies to maximize AoE, you want you group up the enemies first do they're a tight pack. This is a key step a LOT of players miss with tunneling into "I want enemies all around me." So not only could cones hit more enemies, you and your entire party would hit more enemies because of better corralling.

[@manadrivexl]

@@WeskAlber I hadn't even thought of changing Tempest, that would have been a great idea. If OP & MT were both conal, there would be such less confusion about AoE; all you'd have to do is ask yourself if you were playing as WAR, and always know to position yourself ahead of a pack if the answer was yes. Only times to break that new rule would be for the AoE gauge spenders, which generally have a long enough radius to hit most mobs you already covered with your normal cones. As it is, Square have already thrown themselves in with the Circle gang, so c'est la vie. Remember when Rockbiter was a cone? I don't remember the day it changed, but I was so relieved to see it become a circle to synergize better with Arm of the Destroyer and Fourfold Fury. This was closer to the days when One-Ilm Punch existed, which I now must remember One-Ilm Punch existed. Monk AoE was interesting back then. Anyway, thank you for the new guide. I'll be sure to take it to heart when I pick Warrior back up, after I'm done leveling other jobs or just feel like going ape.

[@Scerttle]

Not wrong about overpower. Weeks on and I'm still using it malms away from the targets I intended to hit...

[@jereXIX]

Thank you so much for these videos!

[@matthewoconnor2742]

Inner release as anti knockback works great for unsynced e4s but yeah its really niche and it felt cursed af doing that

[@onesilverleaf6781]

After playing every tank, I just can't go back to any of the other choices then Warrior, not for now anyways.

[@overseerpjoe9477]

I also miss the Cone AoE of Warrior. I personally wish they changed all their AoE attacks into cones so they all matched. Plus, it would give Warrior a bit more identity amongst the Tanks.

[@NeoMiles74]

15:38 Is no one going to mention the fact Arm's Length doesn't work with Vengeance active? Warrior is the third tank I'm leveling to 90 and felt something was off about it for a while before noticing my arm's length was straight up not applying the slow to enemies. I never had this problem with other tanks using the 30% DR cooldown plus arm's length together, but since I guess Vengeance has the added effect of causing spike damage, it doesn't apply the slow from arm's length? Even Google searching this bug I literally only found one thread talking about it.

[@WeskAlber]

...yeah this is probably the most specific skill interaction I have ever heard of. I'm going to test it out tomorrow, report it anyway, but this might not be a bug.

[@WeskAlber]

My theory is Vengeance is coded at higher priority, because some engine limitation means there's only one possible Reflect up at a time. Order of pressing them does not seem to matter. It's definitely something to do purely with the reflect, as you can still ignore Knockbacks with Arm's.

[@malakim1773]

So what do you do after the opener? Does it loop or do you just spam combos until you generate enough to fell cleave while you wait for your cooldowns to come back?

[@WeskAlber]

Yeah basically. 123 and use on cooldown

[@hyperionnova2854]

mmm, monke

[@GigglyGayGoddess]

Well time to level WAR to 90 now

[@Teaguekid94]

I came back to FFXIV after like 4 years and was pretty upset with how overpowered directional was changed. I got so used to the cone now it's a circle 😭

[@brandonforrester7342]

"I'm here to kill chaos"

[@ode-blu]

Damn it wesk, now I'm imagining a karaoke version which you get angrier each fell cleave

[@Masters-rc9sc]

You like saying the word CHAOS don't you?

[@AyoMrB]

It's like Jimmy Valmer and Kat Callaghan had a baby

[@raarasunai4896]

I had a warrior in a dungeon over the weekend who embraced the caveman part a bit too hard. He died twice right away in the 85 dungeon. When I asked why he didn’t use mitigation, I kid you not, he replied, “What’s mitigation?” I noped out of there. I can use every heal in my kit as a Regen healer, but If you’re doing wall to wall with no mitigation, I can’t keep you alive

[@WeskAlber]

Should have answered the question at least.

[@raarasunai4896]

@@WeskAlber I did. He was still lost, and still didn’t use any. Maybe a troll, maybe under the influence of something

[@JH-vb1wo]

I have been black mage since i started 5 weeks ago but I figured I'd let another class and it's marauder and I really enjoy it... berserk plus damage reduction is up my alley. I prefer solo with tanks cuz black mages is not fun when your out numbered

[@Scerttle]

I feel like the intro is getting more memey with every video and I'm OK with this.

[@Backinmywhey]

I came back from a break and im a PLD, been lvling WAR, and I was like oooo the aoe isn't a cone anymore after 3 dungeons of positioning like a cone aoe.

[@kimaclaret]

I got so used to it. I'm still struggling with the change 😅

[@zestoh_coffee_892]

People complain when its a cone, now they complain when they're not used to the circle lmao

[@BionicLatino]

The cone made it so much easier to herd and corral.

[@CanisMythson]

@@BionicLatino See, I found it had the opposite effect, particularly when trying to line it up so Mythril Tempest/Chaotic Cyclone/Decimate would hit all the same targets. Now that they're all the same AOE I don't have to worry about that as much once a pull is done. Also it made me feel like I had to move around in the middle of a mob pull to make sure it was all lined up, which I'm sure drove melee DPS crazy.

[@BionicLatino]

@@CanisMythson I guess I’m picturing the way I’d put my back against the wall and have the mob all facing me. That way my team had the rear and sides to go crazy on and it was easy to see if an enemy was missed.

[@Friyd]

Fantastic video

[@magorleagamer]

I feel shake it off could have gotten a better explanation by mentioning that you can line up all 3 buffs like you would ogc'ds in an opener to all expire at the same second, and then consume them all for an extra 6% shield for trash pulls, which also enourages using your tank cd's

[@WeskAlber]

Encourages to use them poorly. Raw Intuition in trash should almost never be paired with any other CDs besides Holmgang, in the method I lay out. Using anything more than RI by itself is over-mitigating due to it being several seconds of infinite healing. And you're also likely too busy trying to dodge enemy attacks to keep track of timers to the second. It is very hard to have such a precise level of planning in trash, especially due to time to kill. Boss fights usually have the same rotations no matter how good your team is. It very much is an effect made for boss CD planning, especially in the high end.

[@greaseball9537]

your bother sent me by love peace n chikn grease homie

[@cd8547]

In the 90 opener, could you double weave inner release and upheaval, then just single weave onslaught to rend?

[@goni2493]

Well, some people whining about overpower being a cone shape aoe ..it was about to happen.

[@weebboi9457]

UNGA BUNGA!!!

[@JadeBlades098]

I have NO idea what the deal with the "Chaos" bit is, but even without context it made me laugh entirely too hard.

[@WeskAlber]

It's not a hope, or a dream. It's like a hunger. A thirst. I need to kill Chaos.

[@ThePhysicalReaction]

great guide

[@Itama22]

I'm here to kill (with) Chaos!

[@justinbailey6515]

Study hard people, test is on Friday...

[@N7PistolPro]

Lol. That gorilla thing was pretty funny

[@jvdog3]

Thanks!

[@Iyokus]

Warrior smash! lets goo!

[@rosebelmahjoubi1932]

hmm, rages, hits people with chainsaws and heals when doing so. *cue kick back*

[@StarShadow9009]

While warriors have the simplest offensive rotation, it has by far the highest skill ceiling defensive as imo, it has the most interesting defensives which interact so complexely with each other.

[@WeskAlber]

Would give that to DRK personally: Dark Mind is magic only making you need to try and watch for anything magic. TBN is amazing but the cost to entry requires gauge management Oblation is nice but isn't as stupid ridiculous as every other job's additions. Before they made LD easier to use (which as we saw with Kaiten, easier is objectively worse in every way) that was a big communication point

[@raphaelhuwyler6640]

@@WeskAlber I would agree that the dark knight his a higher skill floor on tbn and dark mind, however i think warrior can go a bit further than just flat mitigation or shielding. Example: Heavy Hand comes up, i can do Thrill + Blood to survive and get to full if i have a 2 guaraneed heal crit's lined up or i can use Vengance + Bloodwhetting if i can eat the defensives later on Shake it off to shield a Raid-wide if thirll wouldn't last long enough. On dark knight it's just, Rampart/Oblation + TBN, add a missionary if it covers the Raid-wide after and that's it. I find the way warrior mitigates through healing itself after the hit more interesting, but hey that's my opinion, everyone has their own and who am i to tell people that they should think like me. Ps: Your vids helped me learn how to play dps and for that thanks, have a grat day :)

[@blackmagekongs2588]

Oh you mean hit bloodwhetting and/or thrill and equilibrium to completely heal yourself? Gosh that sounds so hard lmao.

[@raphaelhuwyler6640]

If you have a IC/delay a Primal Rend (if its a raidbuff free one) you can guarantee about 60% health from the 2 crit heals alone. The thrill allows you to survive the buster (for some reason it doesn't buff Bloodwhetting heals) if you combine it with bloodwhetting. Then you heal 3 times after the hit and if you are at 80% health (remember your temporary max hp will fall off) you will be full after the thrill ends.

[@StarShadow9009]

@@WeskAlber I would still say you need more thought into getting the most out of your skills with WAR. It mainly comes down to ability combinations. Since most other classes have just one version of % damage mitigation and occasionally a heal or shield mixed in. This leaves mostly just one way of combining skills. The more defensives you stack, the worse of you are since it's diminishing returns. There are very few exceptions. For DRK it is TBN which is just a shield defensively. For PLD it is Holy sheltron (the healing part), Divine Veil? (Sort of), and special mention to intervention and cover. For GNB, you have the healing (excog) part of HoC, and Aurora (debatable since regen). Every other ability becomes worse off when used together with other abilities. For WAR, First of all, you have the most diverse set of defensives. You have a HP increase and Healing buff in Thrill of battle, a heal and regen in equilibrium, a lifesteal in Bloodwhetting, shield in shake it off and bloodwhetting, and even the 30% damage mit skill which other tanks have a version of, Vengeance, has a thorns effect on it. These skills interact in very interesting and mutually beneficial ways. Shields benefit from HP increase since higher HP means better shield, HP increase also increases in effectiveness when you have damage mit like a shield. This leads to you having a ton a great combos. Bloodwhetting + Vengeance is great. Any ability + Thrill is great. Equilibrium is great when paired up with any other damage mit too since if you use up the damage healed when under damage mitigation, it is effectively equivalent to a bigger heal and for the same reason the lifesteal of bloodwhetting pairs up well with other damage mit too (not to mention the shield). Thrill + Equilibrium is great too since Healing buff. The multiple small intricacies of Shake it Off when paired up with other skills. On a small sidenote, I've noticed that the bloodwhetting shield is usually around a 10% shield so Shake it Off + Bloodwhetting (in that order) is roughly equivalent to a TBN with other benefits. All this leads to WAR being the most interesting to play defensively imo. P.S. I honestly really love the LD changes. I think it's the most interesting invuln now. I like how it is almost more than a 10s invuln since the 10s starts from when you actually hit 1hp now. You can pop it earlier than other invulns without consequences.

[@ronnieblastoff4083]

The craziest part. All this rage and insanity and critical hit madness gives you just enough DPS to out damage a WHM. 😃

[@Pachiku93]

If GNB is the blue dps WAR is the blue healer

[@gnarlyboyjai]

Im gonna kill CHAOS using my inner CHAOS

[@dreamx6666]

Perfect timing

[@theboogyman3127]

Is there a place to learn the optimum lvl 70 and 80 rotations, for like ultimates, ik for a few jobs the rotations don’t rlly change that much after 70 but would be nice to check, Ty for the video

[@WeskAlber]

Balance usually has BiS for Ults and such info

[@theboogyman3127]

@@WeskAlber thank you

[@bakk02]

I’ll miss you, Good Overpower.

[@znalbrionez1118]

About to start levelling up a tank class for the first time hehe, would a Warrior or a Paladin be easier to start with?

[@WeskAlber]

Warrior because of Raw Intuition

[@znalbrionez1118]

@@WeskAlber Thanks so much!!

[@coolman5242]

37:28 Exactly how I felt once I hit that level 😂

[@joshuamills1296]

Hey Wesk! Fantastic works again! Can you please link your glam??

[@Nathan-dd5ci]

It's finally unga bunga time from Wesk!

[@ivanupton6586]

you keep saying Yalms for distance units... are you sure it isn't supposed to be yards?

[@WeskAlber]

Nope! Yalms

[@Aaerox90]

Yes, Primal Rend gapclosing can be accidentaly useful. But can also accidentaly screw you up big time. Like when uhm... "my FRIEND" used Primal Rend in P3S just as the big add was dashing away to the other side. Looked hilarious as my uhhh his WAR flew across the arena, but alas it didn't end well. :')

[@TheMCmace]

I hope they change jobs in early levels next addon Like damn it‘s so lame leveling as marauder/warrior xd

[@Jackomuddy]

God I love these videos

[@25xxfrostxx]

I really miss the overpower cone. They definitely listened to the wrong people on that.

[@blackmagekongs2588]

Yea idk why some people were complaining about it. In fact the cone made it easier to gather all the enemies. Kind of a dumb and unneccessary change.

[@25xxfrostxx]

@@blackmagekongs2588 I know some people prefer a circle for general use and in a vacuum it's generally more useful but if you know you have a cone then you know that you can approach a group of enemies in a way that it's beneficial to have. It's sort of like Salt the Earth. I preferred it as a placeable circle rather than at my feet with me in the center because it made it easier to put myself at the edge with the pack of enemies in the effect. I don't need a circle centered on me, I am almost never actually surrounded.

[@adamdailey9115]

The more annoying aspect was the need for it to be targeted though with the new upgrade to auto targeting that’s less of an issue

[@blackmagekongs2588]

@@25xxfrostxx Thats what i mean you can dodge aoes during pulls with a cone, and the cone was 8 yalms long. All you had to do was aim it at the correct add to get the most of your aoe to hit, but apparently that was too hard for some people.

[@Keira_Blackstone]

@@blackmagekongs2588 I don't like it because I use legacy movement, meaning if dodging a mechanic and using my attacks at the same time, there's a good chance I'm facing away from the pack when it comes up in the rotation. having all aoes be a circle around me fixes this issue.

[@LightbladeRiulo]

FELL CLEAVE THE HEAVENS

[@handsomezack1075]

That thumbnail though

[@Vivicloud01]

What mouse are you using for ff14?

[@WeskAlber]

Logitech G502 Hero

[@joshtownsend8807]

Does upheaval consume a stack of berserk?

[@ryasson1830]

Berserk only affects weaponskills, abilities like Upheavel are not affected and don't consume stacks.

[@blackwhistyle]

The comment about the USB keyboard 😂 I use one

[@kaspeon]

CHAOS

[@jaimeediviney1349]

Im still tryimg to get over the way you say inner chaos every time 😂

[@vigo2669]

People were complaining about Overpower being a cone so they changed it.

[@WeskAlber]

And people were wrong

[@blackmagekongs2588]

@@WeskAlber i agree

[@odinmaveth6224]

Where warrior transmog from?

[@WeskAlber]

From the start and end of the video

[@odinmaveth6224]

Where your glamour from? In this video

[@WeskAlber]

@@odinmaveth6224 the glam is listed at the start and end