FFXIV: Orbonne Monastery Complete Raid Guide

Timestamps:
First Boss: @1:03
Second Boss: @3:14
Third Boss: @8:22
Final Boss: @16:45
Final Boss Pt. 2: @19:43
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[@Mrhappy1227]

Chart For Thunder God Positioning Courtesy of Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/aeohra/pugfriendly_orbonne_3_marker_scheme/

[@Mimz670]

Who else is here cuz we dont know wtf we're doing

[@MayHugger]

That's the general idea

[@Art2D2]

Bruh my potato brain can't handle all this shit. So many mechanics to memorize. All I really wanted to stop dying to was the sniper part. Which apparently survival requires the opposite action of what I was doing.

[@cliftonjackson441]

I finally beat this to get access to bozja. And omg the cs after you exit. They had Alicia and the other knight right buy agrias. I was looking for rad hard af after I saw that. But that was super nostalgic seeing all the ffxiv versions of a bunch of tactics parties and characters man. Late thank thank thank you to yoshi p matsuno and everyone else who worked on this raid.

[@Sacrengard]

that thundergod was the real nightmare of this raid

[@devinallen4239]

Just want to add, regarding the ice wolf mechanic, if you find yourself in the wrong circle, running across the ice to an adjacent circle is perfectly survivable. Don’t be afraid to do it if you need to.

[@HeavenlyArmed]

On Mustadio it's actually meaningless to be topped off for the sniper attack. Tested involuntarily (was crying for heals that never came) and the attack only reduces you to low HP, it will not kill you if you do the mechanic correctly.

[@Sabamonster]

Came here to put in this exact comment.

[@Art2D2]

Ahhh so that's why we don't get healed before the hit.

[@SolMastr19]

Thank you so much for adopting the marker between the circle strategy for the video. It is the better one in my opinion and those pointing to your guide will adopt it. Seen far too many raids arguing over which to do and a lot of people being stubborn.

[@snaplash]

Unfortunately, I have to do this to start the resistance weapon quests.. I simply can't remember it all, and I have no idea how I'll get through it without dying 50 times.

[@gmorkins6006]

Same here man, I have done the first two raids so far in one shot with duty finder and no wipes. This one looks more complicated but it seems people are reading up and with everyone geared, a lot of the super deadly attacks aren't quite as bad now.

[@Azdaja13]

"I call out to the skies and tremble as the brilliance of a thousand bolts blinds mine enemies and tears their flesh asunder!!!" "Seven shadows cast, seven fates foretold. And yet at the end of the broken path lies death, and death alone!!!" I love the casting quotes. xD

[@craigfunk3453]

That's tactics for ya. They love the cast quotes for sword skills and spells

[@gamester512]

Yep. Those are lines they actually speak in battle in Tactics. Agrias only uses "Holy Sword" skills as she's a Holy Knight, but Thunder God Cid (very likely the most OP character in the entire game, even including the "secret" characters like Cloud Strife or Balthier) has access to Holy Sword, Dark Sword, & Swordplay skills just from his starting "Thunder God" class (which basically gives him access to skills from 3 separate classes, the Holy Knight, Dark Knight, and Knight respectively)....he also joins you pre-equipped with *Excalibur* which grants him a permanent Haste buff just from having the sword equipped.

[@vanillacokejunky]

hehe in Tactics they sometimes had epic quotes for even the simplest of attacks... www.angelfire.com/pe/fnlfntsy7/fftactics/fftspellquotes.txt

[@Altearithe]

This was incredibly helpful and I didn't die at all, though the other sch went down at least 10 times. Ended up getting a chance to use the sch lb3 too to rez the whole raid so that was fun.

[@CaptObv1]

Are all healer attention seekers and or people pleasers?

[@Altearithe]

@@CaptObv1 Almost a year later and I can honestly say that all healers are greedy, angry mfers who will let you die to get that last glare/broil/malefic off first. We will only use that lb3 just so we can get back to dpsing.

[@CaptObv1]

@@Altearithe so true.

[@megamacattack123]

Thank you Mr. Happy, our great Prometheus, for bringing the fire of knowledge to us mere mortals.

[@Knuckx117]

21:33 ABORT! ABORT! Was super fun running this with you Haps.

[@stefano1488hh]

i can finally stop dying to the sniper mechanic

[@Yilane]

was listening to this while running it for my first time. you gave me enough info during fights to only die a few times :)

[@gamester512]

I was fortunate in my first ever run that I only died once against each boss but the Raid as a whole never wiped once. That clear run gave me a good enough look at what to do with each boss that I usually only die if someone *else* screws up (like if they don't free me from the "jail" with the Holy Swords in the fight with Agrias). Not saying I don't slip up every so often (I once walked right into Agrias' cleave as a DPS right before she died for instance, not exactly my proudest moment), but it's never really bad enough to put the raid in danger of a wipe.

[@soldierorsomething]

Just went through this raid 100% blind and oh boy it was a slaughter, so i guess i will learn the mechanics now :P

[@elanapiper6113]

🚶🏻‍♀️ got this for roulette and i wasn’t planning on doing until i was ready (aka watching mr.happy’s guide for this) will didnt do that and has to go in blind. probably died 10+ times

[@GrimsonLime]

Thank you, Sir. This has helped me avoid most deaths. Only deaths I couldn't avoid was my teammate's not moving away from others while targeted with some of those mechs during TGC.

[@adamchatham1536]

Eyyyyy! Thank you! :)

[@vinheim]

I went through this raid for the first time today (a year and a half later lol) and I think I got killed like 20 times as a DPS. I had to come and check WTF was happening cus I never had a fight like this. Thanks for the vid Happy!

[@thelengedaryhero6900]

The maze does change patterns every time you fight the last boss.

[@Chronixal]

Thank you for the guide. Quick question on Orlandu. You confirm the boss auto attacks all three alliance tanks. Should each tank therefore be using their respective tanking stance? Thanks for your time.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Is there a guide to watching this guide?

[@tikar8982]

😂😂😂 right? Just OMG!!

[@Selcryn]

Mr Happy, on Cid, if you use the Ozma strats (more specifically the staying in one of the circles) for Crush Armor, then what the group can do is that everyone gets on the spot of the circle closest to him, and keeps an eye on their hp. If you take one of the hits, just step back, it will automatically switch to someone else, no coordinated switch off required.

[@vanillacokejunky]

there are pros and cons to both... he already said why he prefers one over the other

[@brianp.6237]

Broooooo thank you

[@xeronixxy7845]

Thundergod is still the best Alliance raid boss theyve ever done

[@SampoPaalanen]

Just to emphasis how important it's not to overlap those shadowblade bubbles, 4 stacks is the max amount that's really healble unless your healers are really good, 5-6 stacks take out about 2/3 of the health of a non-tank job per tick.

[@zeening]

holy shit i am not looking forward to this, i'm gonna be dead soooo much here lol watched the guide prob 10 times now but theres now way im gonna remember half this stuff >.

[@jonathancruz5848]

I love how some of this is continuously a reminder to the Lion's War for Final Fantasy Tactics. Mustadio, Agrias, & Cid (Aka Orlandeau) besides many of the others like Ramza and his sister.

[@trombleyscat]

Do a guide without shitting on the duty finder challenge

[@Beneficialitificul]

Add phase of third boss looks super confusing and Ultima looks really fun. Insane, but fun xD

[@KonDragon008]

I watched this after running the raid (on day 2) because I just like going in on day 1-2 and figuring out the mechanics with everyone...then after that, looking for a guide for things I might have missed or alternative strats. Even with duty finder, it's usually fun for the first week as we're all in the same progression boat of learning what mechanics do what and plan how to deal with them. That said, a healer did ragequit on the second wipe to Cid for whatever reason (day 2 ragequits...always funny to see that), even though almost everyone was new and we were all really laid back after wipes (analyzing what went wrong and figuring out a strategy to deal with it). I loved the second boss, because I thought the mechanics were really interesting. Some people still struggled with the shield, but we all had an "open question" policy and encouraged anyone to ask questions and even analyze what went wrong if/when we wiped. We had someone who became our "raid leader", so props to them (I don't recall the name off the top of my head, or I'd give them a shoutout for being freaking awesome). I wasn't too fond of the final boss, only because it felt like it was more of "let's throw a bunch of mechanics at the players at the same time) instead of mechanics such as in the second and third bosses. I literally could not process everything happening on the screen during what I call the "chaos phase" of the final boss (that time when the boss summons three previous raid bosses and mechanics go off either at the same time or so close together that it feels like they happen at once). On our second attempt (after wiping in that phase), I realized I processing it all would be impossible for me, so I decided that I'd eat a couple hits from the moving water spouts if it meant being able to dodge the divebomb, proximity hammer, and timed explosions. So if anyone else has issues with processing that much information on their screen, that's a tip; you don't want to be caught in the divebomb because it'll give a nasty debuff, so just pick one of the "smaller" things to be hit with (one or two hits from the water spout or one hit from a floor aoe should be alright, just try to limit it to 2 hits...3 if you have high VIT or have VIT melds).

[@Sin606]

Soo glad I watched this after my clear. This A.Raid felt appropriately tough.

[@coffeegremlin192]

Also, when seraph is almost dead she starts throwing redemptions out pretty frequently so be ready for that

[@FoxxyRin]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING A GUIDE USING THE EASY WAY ON THUNDER GOD. Hopefully it's not too late for it to become meta, because people are already stubborn about doing it "like Ozma." Every group I've had does it "like Ozma" and it just needlessly complicates it. Doing it the way you show is obviously how it was intended because of ads. No idea why everyone does it the other way when it makes people have to move more and much less efficiently.

[@BongSwansong]

Because its day two. Most people have only done this a few times if not once if pair with some skilled alliances. There is no meta yet. Calm down

[@seizerkb3225]

Day 2 of a raid and people prefer to stick to what they're used to. That is normal and you should always communicate in alliance chat to explain to everyone the pros and cons.

[@FoxxyRin]

@@BongSwansong I've done it eight times already to get the caster pieces and six of these parties have refused to listen to any reason, even the ones with at least a party worth of people insisting this way. The two parties that did listen wiped once at most. Two of the other six were disbands and the last few were disasters. Each time I'm met with saying it's "better to do like Ozma" to people straight up arguing that "you can't attack him from the bridges" (which isn't true at all). People straight up refuse to do it how it's intended, which is much simpler and less confusing for most people.

[@kikixchannel]

Yeah...When I saw the first run that Mr.Happy did, my first thought after they wiped was "why not go to the place between?". I mean, it's obvious. It's closer to every place you need to go. There is nothing that it makes difficult. And the hit box is clearly larger than that. So why not do that?! Also, the thing this guide didn't say...The domes actually show the area they will cover at max. That large circle around is how they will grow. So people can see whether they overlap or not even if someone will get way out of their area.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

There are one main benefit to doing it the other way. Where he drops you after the add phase. Most groups I've been with will have the platforms marked in such a way that after the add phase, your other platform is on your right rather than your left. This can cause errors for players used to Ozma dropping their AOEs in the wrong place. Yes eventually players can learn to do it correctly, but personally I'd rather avoid an autopilot error by having the platform he drops you on and the one to your left be the platforms you're responsible for. As far as the rest, there's nothing saying you can't fight on a platform or between platforms as I've done both in both types of markings, though in general I prefer fighting on a platform, since as a melee DPS it means I don't have to move for some mechanics whereas fighting on the little bridge means all mechanics will require me to move.

[@Bearclaw2003]

Thanks for the Guide. Good golly.... I dread this raid. First two raids.... no problem. This one..... oh boy @_@. I have to do it to get the good stuff.

[@jadice4811]

Mister Happy, wonderful guide you've placed together thank you for the help!! (I doubt I'll do the raid soon tho won't lie @_@; lol)

[@RockR277]

T.G. and Seraph are so much fun

[@Ethonra]

Gotta give them props. They stepped up the difficulty in just about everything this patch. Mostly in the forms of harsh punishment for failed mechanics. Went in with 2 friends, I was SAM, on the 1st day and our raid timed out at the very end. On the second try on day 2, I went PLD and got through. Great raid. Even the elitists should like it.

[@TheAuron32]

agreed, if they keep this up in Shadowbringer, the boredom issue regarding progression wont be as big of an issue as people say it is now. The current formula is stale BUT interesting and harder fights... staves off the boredom.

[@Ethonra]

@@TheAuron32 Well said.

[@TheAuron32]

@@Ethonra i do think we NEED a change in progression, i mean its been the same since ARR, get tome capped, do raid, rinse repeat. BUT, more random mechanics and harder fights in general are okay while they figure how they can change the progression, they dont want another 1.0 disaster, so i can wait a bit more :) also, glad they made crafting far more viable for end game now, that was HUGE in clearing Savage on week one if i recall, the Kefka fight is the one i recall the most, crafting allowed them to go right to it, meeting the iLVL requirement to try.

[@Ethonra]

@@TheAuron32 Yep, I have and always will support a delay in a product IF it means a better product vs a rushed product that had no hopes of being finished on time. I don't think anyone wants a FFXIV '06 Edition.

[@TheAuron32]

@@Ethonra progression is always going to be tricky, not everyone likes the same things, i mean personally i love Eureka Anemos... then came Pagos and i HATED it... im still finishing off on it so i can catch up in time.

[@JediCore]

I'm watching this while waiting for the Duty Finder. Decided to do some homework When watching the Third Boss strat, I thought that this is the final one. Oh boy was I wrong

[@PreviouslyDelicious]

Holy crap! Do my eyes deceive me or did they have a new boss room design for Cid? It's not a boring circle room anymore, it's a doughnut!

[@evrlrve]

Back in my day, I would shit my pants when I have 70 risk points and forgot to cast Magic Ward while encountering Harpy that throwing Curse and Banish at me in Undercity . Good old days. Best game 10/10.

[@infinitiabsolute7888]

Is there an orchestrion roll for the thunder god?

[@Dracongard]

I wonder if the mech boss will be the machinists changes coming in shadowbringers. It acts like a machinist with its attacks and behaviors. Maybe a form change between the weapons?

[@wolfvermillion1729]

Unlikely, but it would be so amazing if they did.

[@kikixchannel]

It doesn't act like a machinist. He is a machinist. A unique character with the job of Machinist, more specifically. The second boss is a Holy Knight and the third boss is a Divine Knight, if I remember correctly.

[@corruptCrown]

i somehow got it done already but i fear next week

[@russellpolk189]

number1woofer I just started this alliance raid and I have watched these videos multiple times.... I fear it and have feared it for months. Needless to say I die a lot lol

[@anthonydelfino6171]

re: TG Cid fight, I can see why you prefer the method of marking between the platforms, however, for player simplicty because of Ozma, I would find that the markers are better placed rotated. When Cid drops you back into the arena on a platform, if you stay on it, your place to drop your circle is now to your right as opposed to your left if you use the markers created by most parties. However, if they're rotated, then they're still to your left. This is handy for players who might autopilot where to drop them based off the year+ they were running Ozma, meaning less likely for player error to cause a wipe. Just my opinion :)

[@GreyFox23]

:O Mustadio, Agrias, Cid! noooo. You became monsters?

[@kikixchannel]

They are the ones that help you with the barrier in Ultima (you can actually see them talking to you)...so no. They're still the good guys.

[@TMacandKobe4real]

IKR.........I fuckin freaked out lol

[@lrek7661]

Story wise, they're testing you if you are a good guy who want and can 'kill' the last boss or a Bad guy who want to freed the last boss. Mustadio, Agrias and T. G. is protecting the Monastery because apereantly Ramza can't kill the last boss himself so he sealed the last boss on the Necrohol on the monastery.

[@GreyFox23]

Finally got around to running the 24 man raid. It’s so sad! They all sacrificed themselves to seal ultima. Found myself standing and listening to the dialogue during battle some times. And when they showed up in the last fight? Awesome. And I loved the last cutscene in the dungeon. Man it was all so bitter sweet. Even the two female knights that served with Agrias were there!

[@GreyRush]

Thundergod defeated my first raid group 4 times before we cleared it. Ultima though? first try.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Yeah, we had one group that was having issues on thundergod, and that dps check is pretty brutal, after 3,4 times it was good, its very different mechanics, a lot for people to learn, but the dps checks seem to be really serious about checking dps.

[@Lola-yq6lg]

its so easy though.....

[@yaboi2500]

@@Lola-yq6lg So is every boss in this game once you know their mechanics. Your point?

[@apathy2454]

@@yaboi2500 💯

[@Lola-yq6lg]

why would you go counter clockwise ? my raid team figured out going left was just way more simple. go left for dps. circles dropped back and left. everyone goes left, everyone is happy.

[@zodzecht]

Is the coin a weekly thing or can you farm it?

[@anthonydelfino6171]

one per week only for now.

[@zodzecht]

@@anthonydelfino6171 shame, oh well

[@MorrowMixtape]

hmm...so if mustadio, agrias, and T.G Cid are all lucavi then does that mean that ramza's party failed in orbonne monastary? or did they just sacrifice themselves to save everyone else?

[@agitodragoon3736]

Thunder god boss: y’all like to *DIE?*

[@kuchenbob2448]

just watching this video stressed me out. i guess i still have to do this. =/

[@vanillacokejunky]

Over a year later and people are still failing this and need echo buff to clear.

[@TazumaJin]

people make this raid difficult than what it is honestly.

[@seekittycat]

Here because I had no idea what happened and how I died ;u;

[@Sensiav703]

THANK YOU!! The amount of people who put the Thunder God markers between the circles frustrates me to no end! That's not good positioning!

[@craigfunk3453]

What did you call the Gougan coin? It is Gou-gan

[@rich20010]

EX mode please

[@IvoryTower777]

I was always a fan of difficulty spikes... we are going to have to work together here peeps. ^_^

[@Coramelimane]

Everyone became a persona. :|

[@shokosugi2346]

I swear to god, these raids make me not even want to play anymore. There are like 20 steps for every fucking boss in them. It's like my eyes glaze over after a while and I have to keep rewinding, and I know I'm going to forget at least half of this shit by the time I get in there. Whatever though. Thanks for the guide.

[@toddysurcharge771]

I haven't done this raid yet. Just wanted to see how my Tactics people looked in 3d...was sorely disappointed when I saw they looked like reject Voltron enemies.

[@sergel02]

Toddy Surcharge when you finish the raid you see what they really like like in 3D

[@vanillacokejunky]

this is just your opinion. personally i feel like Ramza and Alma came out perfect in the flashback cutscenes

[@KumiChan2004]

I love how this is a challenge but very fair too. If your teams do stuff right then it is win. If not, you could still win but it is a lot harder to. I feel like the second raid was too easy really.

[@Maka8295]

I keep hearing about groups timing out and wiping over and over to these bosses. Anyone else here on a JP server clear it first try without much difficulty? My group wiped once to Cid and that was it. Every run since then has had no problems at all.

[@Lola-yq6lg]

And thunder god is super simple i dont know why people find it hard. When he stabs his two swords in front of him you stay closest to him. When he has his 2 arms held up holding the swords you get away. and you get away from wherever the swords are being held up. dusk blade is just dps go to their spot (in my case we go left.) you get a circle? u drop it in the back (or to the left in my case) like what is the issue here lol. i didn't even watch a guide i cleared this without one explanation. -_-

[@KevinMCable]

Nice downvotes! Also, HYD? ; ]

[@KouriRyu]

Am I the only one disappointed by this "tribute" to FFT? It's not even the Ultima from FFT. It's more styled like the one from FFTA/2 and the final scene with Ramza & Delita feels so... empty and contrived.

[@yousini]

last boss was dissapointing, expected much more from the final one for the expansion

[@302yt]

The Ivalice storyline is sooo boring.... It's the worst storyline in FFXIV.... I've lost count the number of times i had fallen asleep progressing through the story.

[@davidprince1138]

MTQ > all

[@ianclaudio]

all i wanted was to waste my time watching a raid....not a tutorial....