FFXIV's Endgame Design Has Me THRILLED

[@necroxisz]

Biggest strength of FF14 is exactly what you describe. Doing some, a little bit or none of the content you want and if you want to just wait until the next patch to return, you aren’t at a disadvantage when you do so.

[@maybeitsyou1317]

Yeah imagine being able to do content without having to commit to a part time job of dailys and weeklys.

[@DEATHBYFIRE09]

Yeah, I'm really taking a bit of a break, only logging in to prog with my static and do some maps afterwards. Its not like I'm bored of the game or anything, I just got off a 6 month long binge to get ready for then finish EW, and now I want to enjoy some other games that I missed out on. And the brilliant thing is, I can, the game lets me do that without any issues, and when I'm ready to come back more fully, I know it'll welcome me with open arms.

[@DimosZargarda]

Thats not how I imagine playing MMOs

[@mcihay246]

@@DimosZargarda That's fine. Play how you want to. What the og comment is suggesting is that FFXIV provides an option that appeals to casual players. Keyword "option". There are harder aspects also.

[@Junebug89]

@@mcihay246 I'm not even sure it's inherently an appeal to "casuals". Even when I was in a top 10 US raiding guild, I didn't like spamming out dailies, and my goodness have things got worse since then in wow (cata/mop).

[@yannolden]

Regarding the Crafting BIS, you only ever need to penta meld a full set of clothing and accessories seeing as that is shared by all the jobs. then you just need to meld the individual tools which isn't as painful. You end up having to pentameld 26 items (10 commons items, and 2 tools for each job) (or just meld enough to reach the stats needed for your food buffed macro to 100% anything) ( source:experience)

[@perseus9653]

Ppp0

[@MythrilZenith]

You also don't need to pentameld if you want to craft everything by hand but MY GOODNESS knowing that the macros will guaranteed work is such a relief it's almost worth the pentamelding pain.

[@MorpheusCh]

I wouldn't recommend pentamelding the CURRENT left side pieces anymore, it's too late into the patch. Wait until 6.1 where they'll introduce a new set of left side and tools green crafted. You can pentameld those which will last until next expansion.

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

You can easially HQ everything with only basic melds in your tools(Or use the Scrip MH-tool, it also works) and only 4 materia slots used on armor + accessories(Except those with higher CP max need penta on those, but It's easier to just meld a rank 7 and rank 6 CP meld). The thing is that you will probably never have enought CP to HQ anything(guaranteed) without food and tincture unless you are a specialist(20 CP is alot).

[@samb123078]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 not if you plan on crafting the two or three star recipes.

[@FinalDragoon]

My goal after each expansion has always been "get all jobs to level cap" that way I can focus on whatever interests me at the moment. I even go out of the way to level Trust avatars to cap because I can. FF14's "endgame" is 'whatever you want to do' as opposed to 'everything you need to do' and that is what has kept me playing all these years.

[@bigsisderpina]

You forgot beast tribes, which is almost the equivalent of dallies and they DO take weeks to start from scratch to completion. However, the final rewards from those beast tribes is mostly emotes, mounts, cosmetics, and more story content, so if you don't do them, you won't be missing out much. They do give decent EXP though, so that's another method of getting that.

[@fjshdf]

EW beast tribes ain't in yet

[@Sibula]

@@fjshdf yeah, right now the old beast tribes are mostly for leveling other jobs and for the collectables if you don't have them yet.

[@jiyaoo]

don't forget materia!

[@Sibula]

@@jiyaoo right, the ixali are great for low lever crafting materia, not sure about the moogles or dwarves. For battlecraft materia I just do hunt trains.

[@_Remorium]

And older beast tribes have things like mounts, emotes, glam, minions... So it is worth doing.

[@MugiwarasNakama]

The most important thing of all... is that the next major patch is expected to be released in 2-3 months... and not half a year from now.

[@ZeroScope100]

And it's going to be an absolutely STACKED patch. SO much new content and new features coming.

[@Skyblade12]

@@ZeroScope100 I haven’t saved enough for an Ishgard house yet! Not enough time! Aaaaaa!

[@Altearithe]

@@Skyblade12 you got this! I believe in you!!

[@anggasurbakti8269]

@@Skyblade12 don't worry there will be plenty of houses in uldah, as always

[@hquest]

Below is a list of most of the available FF14 content. And yet, Naoki Yoshida (game director and producer) in one interview told that if players are bored with the game or if they have completed all game content, then they should take a break and come back in the next patch: "It is better for players to do something else than to burn out from the game they love". - Main Story Quest (MSQ) - over 200 hours of an slow start but emotional rollercoaster of emotions main story content until end of Endwalker (as of patch 6.0.5) - Countless side quests with stories about secondary chars, place, lore or plain silliness- aka Inspector Hildibrand - Choice of one char per server or multiple chars per server subscription - 18 jobs (classes) on the same char: 4 tanks, 4 healers, 5 melee DPS, 3 ranged DPS - Disciples of War/DoW - and 4 caster DPS - Disciples of Magic/DoM - Crafting (Alchemist, Armorer, Blacksmith, Carpenter, Culinarian, Goldsmith, Leatherwork, Weaver) - Disciples of Hand/DoH. On the same char - Gathering (Botanist, Fishing, Mining) - Disciples of Land/DoL. Also on the same char - Blue Mage, a limited caster job - Personal and Free Company (FC) Housing (Apartment, Cottage, House, Mansion) currently in 4 major cities (Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, Ul'dar and Kugane; Ishgard coming as 5th major city). 60 plots of 24 houses at each city, for a total of 5760 houses and 17280 apartments per server - Gardening to grow your own plants, common or rare, and inbreed them - FC subaquatic and airship exploration - Chocobo (mount) racing (in-game casino) - Chocobo as battle pet (performing functions of a tank/healer/dps, akin to a hunter pet, except it's your mount) - Personal retainers (2 included with the game subscription, 1 extra with FF14 Companion Mobile app Premium subscription, up to 7 paid retainers, for a total of 10 retainers) serving as a 175-slot storage each, take care of your Market Board (MB; "auction house") selling needs (up to 20 active items at a time) and go on explorations or missions, bringing you loot, and can be leveled to the maximum level of your job of your character - Chocobo saddle storage (70 slot bag, double with the FF14 Companion Mobile app Premium sub) - Triple triad (in-game casino card game) and Mahjong - Hunts (S and A tiers) - Fates (15-minute-long outdoor quests) - PvE 4-man duties, 8-man trials, 8-man MSQ scenarios, 24-man alliances raiding (normal, savage, extreme/ultimate) - PvE 4-man grand company NPCs and 4 or 8-man trust runs (4-man and some MSQ scenarios done with storyline NPCs instead of other players) - Player Mentoring - Minion and pet battles (over 450 minions) - Mount hunt (over 230 mounts - some with their own accompanying music; mounts for one, two, four or eight passengers) - PvP (The Feast) - Deep dungeon (Palace of the Dead/PotD and Heaven on High/HoH; 200 ranked PvE floors to go thru solo or with a fixed 4-man group, with saves provided every 10 floors) - Eureka and Borja large scale PvE battles - Beast tribe daily quests - Duty roulettes - Mini Cacpot - daily in-game casino - The Hunt - daily and weekly monster/elite monster hunt - Grand Company deliveries (helps with leveling jobs and obtain items such as materials, minions and mounts) - Treasure Map Hunt - 8-man dungeons - Weekly job challenge log - Weekly Wondrous trails - Weely Jumbo Cacpot - in-game casino - Masked Carnivale Blue Mage arena - Fashion Report (Glamour/transmog weekly competition) - Doman Enclave reconstruction - Ishgard Restoration Fetes - Custom deliveries - Achievements (currently about 500) - Sightseeing of places for in-game historical facts - A lot of extra paid stuff on the Mogstore, including mounts, glamour, minions, emotes, char level boosts, content skipping and in-game marriage arrangements - Seasonal events for global and some regional holidays - Mountain Climbing competition - Random FC events such as community driven parties on the beach, using external platforms to extend the game enjoyment.

[@MrRamo14]

Mountain climbing?

[@seanheath4492]

@@MrRamo14 Jump puzzles, maybe?

[@artbunker]

Retainers . Working on them as well

[@silcharus1]

Doman Enclave! I still need to do that... thanks for the shaming there. :)

[@chiekokurokumo]

copying and pasting this unironically so I can start to properly plan my next steps for my main

[@sjwoo13]

I'm lvl 65 still in Post ARR haven't even touched Heavensward. LOL I've been playing for about a month now. There's legitimately way too many things to do. Trying to Trial EX prog + CoB Fishing/Cooking Weaving Lvling a Bard to get performance PoTD MSQ Prog Glamour

[@Offrayne]

PLease say sike and that you are 55... Cuz you are really lost in the sauce if you are 65 in ARR.

[@BryantDScott]

All those things you are doing besides MSQ are evergreen content you can still be doing at endgame.

[@Reddhero12]

you should really just do your msq and come back later for the rest. You unlock more cool stuff like that through MSQ that you could be doing.

[@jacktaru2]

Not even mad that you’re over leveled cuz you mentioned fishing- my man!

[@lautarotrefilio4773]

nobbel was lvl 90 fisher way before HW so you're good, have your fun my dude

[@DameonStarflame]

When people say that the end game in XIV is whatever you want to do, they legit mean it, as unhelpful as that sounds to hear. Do what you want. The game has lots to do and not much in the way of time gating to doing it (holidays are of course time gated, and some content is gated purely because people slow down on doing it like Eureka and Bozja).

[@Sneedmeister]

People like me HATE hearing about "open ended" endgames. Its objectively a good thing, but I'm one of those people that FREEZES when confronted with 1,000 choices and I always feel like I'm making the wrong choice. It's good that you can do "whatever you want" at endgame, but I'd feel more comfortable if there was a nudge towards a certain direction after the MSQ. I don't want to feel like fishing and raiding are both "valid choices" for endgame, when raiding gives you story content you otherwise wouldn't have seen.

[@DameonStarflame]

@@Sneedmeister That's typically why the end credits always has a scene that leads into the 8-man raids. But after that, you're on your own and you need to find something that you enjoy to do (or simply walk away from the game until it updates, which is a valid option).

[@HadeaRin]

@@Sneedmeister Well as people above me said, the Msq led you to raid first and it is a nice post MSQ story stuff. If you need some pointer for activity that will make you do almost all of the things in one way or another, do Mount Hunt and Minion Hunt. You'll touch basically everything with this and it is quite simple goal if you truly don't know what to do. If you don't want to do any of the long journey just unsub and leave until the next patch if you so wish and it is actually a valid option. There, that is your option.

[@Lathernia]

@@Sneedmeister The funny thing is.... Fishing also gives you story content. The Fisher class has a storyline that goes up to lvl 70, then you have Crystarium quests and Sharlayan quests for fishing going from lvl 71 to 90. I did the Sharlayan one yesterday and it dropped some very important lore. We're not saying the endgame is everything it can be to be annoying. We're saying it because the game is designed in such a way that if your dream is to become the greatest fisher in the world, it makes you feel like that's a valid endgame choice.

[@lllllShjnllll]

@@Sneedmeister Just stop doubting yourself and thinking you are there to "serve" the game and everything is time-gated. It's not. You can enjoy any of the crafter/gatherer at endgame and they ALL have important lore content through their job quests, this I guarantee. Raiding of course does give you extra story and you won't get to see them if you don't do the raids, but if you're a raider exclusively then you do miss out on the gatherer/crafter lore part. The neat thing is, you can do both, whenever you feel like doing so. You can always start raiding if you feel like you missed some lore, or start fishing if you feel like so and you're not missing out on anything because none of it is time-gated. Just enjoy the game friend.

[@josephxp96]

One thing you missed that you should have included with Fates. World Boss esq fates like Odin, Formidable, Chi etc which have a spawn timer and don’t appear on the minimap but give cosmetics/mounts/minions. They are loads of fun.

[@Cardzer]

5 more minutes for Chi, trust

[@ArchieGamez]

@@Cardzer Chi is gonna spawn COPIUM

[@josephxp96]

@@Cardzer i already got my Chi mount, just have a few older WB Fates to grab the stuff im missing.

[@dale7326]

Sightseeing log, most ppl probably don’t even do it… Sadly no jumping puzzle this time around.

[@Umbral927]

@@dale7326 There's a jumping puzzle in Radz-at-Han for one of the sightseeing logs. Not a difficult as Kugane Tower, but still there.

[@totallyadude4032]

I’ll be totally honest, I wanna savage raid but Endwalker made me really nostalgic for Heavensward so I’m replaying that with New Game Plus 😂

[@GadalarZazargian]

My endgame, even in shadowbringers has been to collect minions and it paid off especially when they mentioned island sanctuary. Currently at 370 minions and still trying to get the last handful that are available to me. Aside from that it's the usual leveling everything to max level and enjoying content to my leisure until I find myself with nothing to do and just do something else on the side.

[@911eVoX]

did you get the puppy one?

[@GadalarZazargian]

@@911eVoX the ones I'm missing are pvp related, faux, and restoration. Sadly I wasn't paying that much attention to minions when they where in the 2013+ holiday events. So I know I have 2 or 3 of the puppers.

[@James-kv3ll]

My experience with endgame has been just two things each week. 1. Getting to my tomestone cap 2. Raiding That’s it. Nothing else seem to give me any power boost. So… wtf are you on about? Lol I still play the game nearly everyday, but that’s mostly leveling Alt jobs.

[@Kristina.Larson]

A correction for Crafter/Gatherer pentamelding: You can, and will, cap out the substats on several items of gear with lower materia being used as the melding capacity of the gear is quite limited. For example, the past 3 expansions my hands, pants and shoes were melded to where no additional stats were available with grade 4 and 2 materia for the final melds. Those markedly increase the odds of success over grade 5+ materia.

[@Nirual86]

also worth noting that you can't actually use the better type of materia (X in this expansion, but also VIII) for pentamelding all the way. You can use one extra for additional slots but for the remaining 2 or 3, you are using IX, VI or lower. Its practically designed around burning through the lesser grades.

[@Celis.C]

Just look at Michael. Lush hair, rested eyes, a SMILE on his face. Looks like XIV detoxed him from Warcraft's shenanigans. On-topic: the premise of this video is flawed. The entire game is "endgame". You can do whatever you want, whenever you want, provided you've progressed the main scenario sufficiently. That's really the only "limiting" factor, but it's also the selling point of the game. Also note that the stuff at 10:43 is in a very grey area, so peruse that at your own risk.

[@SpellboundTutor]

I think the premise of the video is "If you are coming from another MMO, what is it that FFXIV's endgame truly looks like?" Like absolutely, there is a million and one things you can do, but there's only a handful of things you can *only* do when you have a max level character.

[@iceman3317]

I agree, The only thing that is making it seem like there is an endless amount of content is people who are coming off from playing WoW for so long without taking a break. Once you have played a game you have never played, you are going to run out of content. Because half of the stuff mentioned in FF14 can also be done in WoW if you are a new player.

[@yogmesh]

As a 5 months newbie, I'm working on relic weapons in my "spare" time. The trouble is I don't appear to have much spare time in the game :)

[@Rc3651]

This was a really cool look at what your FFXIV guides might look like now that you're caught up. Seeing your excitement at years-old systems I've taken for granted is also interesting. I'm glad you're liking it!

[@Poldovico]

It's like seeing someone's earnest appreciation for how their new apartment does not contain a hungry bobcat.

[@gsnbr2023]

The main issue i have with the game is the artificial limit they put you to keep you spending on the suscription. Those single drops every week from Raids or the tombstone limit until the next big patch comes out is just bullshit to keep players hooked and paying for a needless limitation. The game is not so friendly with people that log in for some time and wait for the next patch. I cant access the propper housing because, if you have enough luck to get a plot and buy a house, you just have 1 month and a half until they demolish it and give it to other player. so if you struggled to get a house and cant affort a suscription on that time ($13 dollars is alot of money here where I live, for example in Argentina because of our crappy monetary system), I lose all my work. There is a lot of things they need to change to make it more user friendly but i love the game . the story and everything, and its a shame that some mechanics have players like, slaves to them dont allow me properly to experiment everything they have to offer that makes this game great.

[@SaraHungary]

After finishing the MSQ I leveled 6 other jobs, 3 crafters, 2 gatherers, maxed out all shared Fates in all new zones, did all the Achievement Fates, cleared the Extremes, cleared Savage week 1 and I still even have content to do, for example we collect the maps with my friends to prepare a big map night, and collecting the new glam from it 😀 Holy jesus so much time can be sunk in this game it is amazing. And they are all fun.

[@samb123078]

You could do what I’m doing, which is doing all the side quests. Doesn’t give a lot of xp but lots of context and world building. One quest in Old Sharlayan had me solving riddles and getting to know Thancred’s trainer and fellow covert op trainees a bit. Another quest told me about security measures on forbidden times, another one showed the significance of candles to the scholars.

[@StarRailingYourMum]

It brings a smile to my face seeing WoW players enjoy FFXIV.

[@JesseAnderson]

Something I really appreciate about the game's explosive population, the crafted gear ideal for savage dropped in price like a rock after only 12 hours. It's typically cheap gear after week one either way, but yeah only needing 2 million gil to buy a full set for yourself after a day is pretty nice if you don't have the time to max out crafts and crafter melds

[@Nirual86]

I will say thats not necessarily true everywhere. Crystal is generally the datacenter least active in raiding and MB prices can be pretty steep for a long time. Can ever vary world by world, though you can use the world visit system to hunt for better offerings.

[@neopolitaneagle212]

as a a casual who is starting to getting to savages i can 100% say that endgame in 14 so sooooo shallow all u have is savage raid and ultimate and that all and gearing also sucks for us too sadly lol

[@nwickstead]

The crafting and gathering is super addictive. Since 6.05 I have leveled all but culinarian and fishing, and love that I alternate it with duty roulette. Planning on treasure hunts, and savage because I need the warrior hammer

[@itsOasus]

Culinarian is actually the EASIEST one to level if you go the collectable route! took me only like 4-6 hours and that considers the fact that I farmed my own mats!

[@necroxisz]

Well luckily for you culinarian is the easiest and cheapest to level. So you saved the best for last I guess? 😛

[@nwickstead]

So culinarian is cheep too. Good to hear. The fishing mounts plus the flying Dino for all crafting and gathering jobs is pretty tempting too 🤔

[@swary9045]

Ocean fishing is a super fast, easy and accessible way to get fishing levels too

[@deadrabitseverywhere]

You are missing out on the most addictive one being ocean fishing.

[@jaeusa160]

@15:50 If you're level capped, PotD and HoH indeed do drop tomestones. Very poor rate of return for the time needed, but if you want to do those activities, you CAN do them in lieu of Expert Roulettes or Hunts. You can also get tomestones from PVP. I have not kept up if Eureka and/or Bozja reward the capped tomestones to level capped players, I know I capped many times during Shadowbringers by doing Bozja content. What madness this is, letting players just kind of do whatever they like to fill out the little necessary-evil timesinks of game design.

[@Nirual86]

That is another great part of the endgame approach. Damn near everything you do on a level-capped class feeds into tomestone rewards. Some methods are clearly more efficient than others but if you're tired of doing that you can always do something else for a while. My FC does treasure maps once a week and that rewards tomestones as well (even if I'm already capped most of the time, its still nice for those who don't play as much)

[@Poldovico]

@@Nirual86 Last week I capped my tomes pretty much from just treasure map night.

[@Reimu1337]

Another interesting entry gear is the crafted 580 ilvl, that once fully melded is balanced to be enough to clear all savage content. It double down as a nice catch up if you miss a tier and want to quickly get on the action

[@rtbear674]

Another nice thing is, as long as you use your lvl 90 characters, even in lower level dungeon for roulette, you can get astronomy tomestone. I can get astronomy tomestone in heavensward. it's just I can't trade it in until endwalker XD. So I'll just get the poetic and leveling all my alts. Meanwhile if I'm close to shadowbringer end, I'll probably start using my lvl 90 job and save 2000 tomestone so I can just buy it rightaway. Not like you will never ever get those weapon unless you do the highest raid. except for the cosmetic ultimate gears.

[@Aceathon]

The big big big difference between the two games is how FFXIV "respects your time". Which means that you straight up WILL hit a point where you have done everything you wanted to and the only things left are optional things you don't want to do. This is actually a minus for some people: who want to struggle through "chores" for a better high later. Endgame FFXIV is *NOT* designed to be the only game you play, which is a departure from basically every other big MMO ever.

[@NeonHighways]

Conversely, if you like the content enough, it could totally be the only game you play and it can still be fun. I've been playing everyday for 4 years and still have stuff to do, still have fun. (I had a period or 2 where I just wanted to play something else so I dabbled in other games, but I always came back)

[@apharys8921]

With Elden Ring coming out soon I'm going to need all the time I can get. 😩

[@Nirual86]

There are relic weapons to grind for if you want that kind of time-sink. Its just not really required for anything (though the final versions of each relic weapon are better than anything else in the respective expansion).

[@flame1148]

I know this video is more general than patch specific, but almost nobody should be penta melding right now. I’m only moderately overmelded and can 100% HQ macro any of the current items with just crafting food. Heavily overmeld your right side items but save some materia for the new left side items in 6.1.

[@Sibula]

you shouldn't pentameld full 10s and 9s for sure, but pentamelding with old cheap materia overmelds is usually cheaper than overmelding even one or two 9s.

[@Godzillaguy21]

@@Sibula There's even a specific build posted using only 7s/8s (aka, ShB materia) that can hit all of your stat requires w/ food for this tier. Very cheap

[@flame1148]

@@Sibula that’s sort of what I did. Only recently rejoined and leveled up my dol/doh at the end of shadowbringers. My ‘overmelded’ gear uses a lot of materia saved from the level grind in the 3-5 slots. Just saving most of what I generate now for the next set, and selling some if it seems I have way too much.

[@rlseii]

i like how belluar's videos regardless of whether its a wow / ff14 video, you hear ff14 music playing in the background

[@danily11]

Food and medicine buffs are also very important for end game crafting. A full set of end game crafting gear + materia is generally enough to make the best recipes but if you want to ensure hq you also need a supply of consumables (this also means that ALC and CUL can reliably make money off of other crafters).

[@seekittycat]

Sakaguci just recently got into crafting and he's RPing being a high end fashion house (house of SakaGUCCI) with limited releases of clothing it's honestly so extremely cute (he just gives the clothes away of course and doesn't allow resell, just for fun not for any profit).

[@DantoriusD]

My personal "Endgame" in this Game now is waiting ^^. Maxed out all Jobs and cleared Savage Week 1. Now i'm taking a Break from the Game until 6.1 hits.....and its good cause within the next weeks so many new Games coming out ^^. Cant wait for 6.1

[@July-gj1st]

My endgame so far has involved leveling ARC to get SMN, getting my 80 classes to 90 to get the artefact gear, leveling my other classes to 80, leveling crafters/gatherers, and doing Expert/WT. Eventually I'll get to the Extremes just for fun since I'll probably either buy or craft my 580 gear to do Pandaemonium. That being said I truly spend most of my time at Golden Saucer and looking at glams on the MB lmao.

[@sonicroze]

Decided to go ocean fishing today and dragged a couple friends along. Went up 6 levels without trying and it was fun to boot. It was the break I needed after raising up 5 level 90 jobs for the role quests. I also decided to begin on the Studium so I spent some time gathering (way more than I needed) and found my crystal supply a bit lacking. I fixed that. Tomorrow, it's Palace diving to 200. I do roulette. I gather. I hunt. I spend time clearing quests to make my maps cleaner. I do beast tribes. I manage my retainers. I spend time talking to friends, emoting at people. I randomly give away extra minions to sprouts. Sometimes I switch to Bard and pluck away at the instruments. It's all good. I spend time making glamor plates.

[@anotherkenlon]

The most important part of FFXIV endgame: You can stop if you're not having fun, come back after the next .X patch, and miss *nothing*. Fuck FOMO in the ear.

[@wolseybolvin6444]

My endgame plan is to spend more time playing Valorant. Imagine that. An MMO that allows you to play other games and not falling behind.

[@hkoizumi3134]

I remember the very first time grind for FF14 2.0. All we had were castrum to spam. I believe the tomes were called Philosophy?

[@riklaunim]

For crafting pentamelding is optional, if you aren't hard on crafting day one of patch then it's rather wasted. And this expansion seen super high amount of crafters so prices weren't as they were in the old days of which you may have heard in some guides - gil moved for less hardcore omnicrafters from patch day crafting to supply of things needed to craft and gather - materia, components and also older stuff. If someone isn't a omnicrafter (all jobs) then do note this is super optional and time consuming (CUL as solo crafter is an intermediate option to unlock various extras without omnicrafting). Housing market will move on patch 6.1 when Ishgard plots open. Then we will get an Island which will be to some extend similar but we still don't know what it will allow vs owning a house. For me since mid December the "endgame" was doing some side jobs, all ARR ones to 30 and then moving WAR and BRD to 90. I never tanked - not in WoW, not in FF, but when started WAR - really cool :) Oh, and I did the grind to get ARR WHM relic weapon and now I'm working on HW WAR relic weapon, bard one later one :D To much to do, to little time...

[@omegacloud222]

i think the market got nuked from crafting/gathering being too easy to level + the new master recipes being way too easy to craft. That being said pentamelding is still ideal to do because the more melded a piece of gear is, the faster it spiritbonds. Meaning this can be used to farm materia in the long run while waiting for patch 6.1 so you can either dump your materia into new crafter gear or sell it for major money on day 1. Plus materia isnt exactly hard to get. Its just a tedious process or gathering and then crafting items for scrips which in turn also nets you more materia. Day 1 patch for materia sales is a hell of a drug.

[@riklaunim]

@@omegacloud222 Yes, I did pentameld but last slots with much lower one. Gathering on legendary nodes is crazy for spiritbond, crafting not so much :D I wouldn't say crafters are easy to level. You have to start at level 1 so to get to 90 it requires time, even when done in some Ishgard/marketboard efficient way it still takes time and understanding. I would say more pre-existing and/or experienced player went for it than any of the newer ones. And the gear is not that high, more of a catchup/supplement rather than mandatory for savage.

[@SpellboundTutor]

I want to add a very important point in regards to materia melding for crafting and gathering jobs. When you craft or gather, all of the gear you have equipped will gain a certain amount of what is called "Spiritbond Level", which is tracked in a percentage in the tooltip. When any one piece of gear reaches 100%, a quick animation will play on your character once, the equipped slot in your inventory UI (which Michael has in his lower-right with all the green/blue dots on it, equipped items are the two lines on the left hand side of that) will turn white. When it does, you can then "Extract Materia" to create a brand shiny new materia at random from a random pool depending on the spiritbonded item. For Crafting gear, this will be Blue "Crafter's" Materia with a high chance of Grade IX materia and a smaller, but still decent chance of Grade X materia. For Gathering gear, this will be Green "Gatherer's" Materia. Grade X materia can be inserted into the first (and only the first) overmeld of a piece of gear. So if you meld Grade Xs in the first two guaranteed slots of a chestpiece, you can meld an additional Grade X, but once that third one is in, you can only meld Grade IXs from there on out for that piece of gear unless you Retrieve that Grade X. On the subject of Spiritbonding, this process can be accelerated through the use of consumables. Three to be exact, which I'll explain in order: -Squadron Spiritbonding Manual: This will apply a 3 hour variant of the Free Company buff that will give you a Spiritbond Bonus of +3. While it does stack with the other items below, it does not stack with the related Free Company Buff if your Free Company has it active. This can be acquired in sets of 5 or 10 from Rank 3 Squadron Missions from your Grand Company once weekly. -Potent Spiritbond Potion: This will apply a 3 hour "Medicated" buff that will give you a Spiritbond Bonus of +4 (+5 for High Quality). This is a Level 62 Alchemist Recipe. -Better Crowned Pie: This will apply a 30m food buff that will give you +24 Gathering, +38 Control, and +2 Spiritbond Gain. This item cannot be bought with gil or crafted and, instead, is redeemed from the npc Talan in Mor Dhona in exchange for materials that were originally used as materials to craft token items for the Lucis Tools, the original Relic Tools for each Crafter and Gatherer in A Realm Reborn. These materials can be acquired from the Grand Company Seal merchant or from select Crafting/Gathering Leves. There are also certain accessories you can equip that also grant Spiritbond Bonus, such as the Meteor Survivor Ring. However, as that takes up a ring slot that A.) Gives you far superior stats to make crafting that much easier, and B.) You will be spiritbonding along with all of your other gear anyway, they are not recommended. I say all of this because there are too many people who will flat-out purchase an entire stack of materia without realizing quite how simple it is to get materia on your own.

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

You also forgot the bonus from melding. What i did was pretty simple, I just melded my normal slots with usefull higher ranked materia, then I just pushed in junk materia in my advanced slots. After that i just started melding one item at a time with the materia i wanted/needed in those items. Heck all my tools are still just 2 rank X's and a mix of rank I, II and III's, because you don't need to meld tools for the recipies currently in the game at least... and in the next batch we will have to start over again so... more important to just penta meld everything(even if It's not needed) to get the full 100% bonus from melded materia. So if you got a ton of low rank materia or find them cheap on the market board, just make sure all five slots are melded... It don't really matter with what stats, then just remove them when you are ready to make a item "prestine" with proper materia.

[@SpellboundTutor]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 That is true, thank you for the addendum!

[@liftea7304]

I'm currently doing all the old savages for glamour, mounts and fun before I go into Pandaemonium Savage. It's a lot of fun and it's insane how the stat squish barely affected the difficulty. It's so cool that you just can scale yourself down and still have a challenge.

[@Kanamon22]

Literally the only "downside" of doing old content is the lack of some skills. Specially if you are high level on a job, losing some skills can be weird but at the same time, like you mention, you don't feel weak, you feel the power level is good for the content you're doing

[@jaeusa160]

It made me reflect on Wrath, Cata, and MOP and how straightforward the level cap was. And that they then added Scenarios, Pet Battles, Archaeology to it which enriched the endgame experience with things that weren't attached to "raids" and player power. And that's what 14 offers. Raids, Trials, other combat things which aren't classified as "raids" but will still murder you like Bozja and Eureka, but also Crafting and Gathering with more depth, Reputations, Gold Saucer stuff, content like the Restoration projects. No MMO can make content faster than players can consume it, but it's also okay to take a break sometimes.

[@CrispBaker]

A Realm Reborn was made around Cata/MoP, and they took that as the basis for a lot of their decisions. The difference is that Yoshida and his team don't lurch around like the WoW team does. They're careful and conservative about making huge changes to things like reward systems.

[@RothAnim]

Also vital for crafters: Get your two default retainers leveled in your primary combat job, and fishing. Combat retainers sent on Hunting Ventures will give guaranteed quantities of mats dropped form monsters. Fishermen can be sent to collect specific fish needed for recipes. Huge time-savers. Venture tokens can be purchased dirt cheap from your Grand Company even at low ranks, and you'll be swimming in seals if you turn in High Quality crafted items for the provisioning quests, or grind fates to level alt classes. Expert provisioning allows you to turn trash loot into seals and ventures as well.

[@shiroikami2690]

You've hit upon exactly what YoshiP has said a number of times over the years, but haven't experienced quite yet as a relatively new player - it's YoshiP's "Please go play other games too" system. No grinding unless you want to, gear from tomestones is on the same tier as high-end raid gear, and you can simply unsub for 3 months between patches without falling behind if you want. And yes, the bad luck protection for endgame is extremely good. It's great for someone like me with horrendous rng, because even though I'm only doing Extremes and Pandaemonium Normal, I'm still guaranteed to eventually get the things I want, provided I have enough patience.

[@jirojairo90]

First time hitting endgame (Endwalker came out a day before I finished Shadowbringers) and there's so much to do. I'm currently finishing Shadowbringers Beast Tribe quests while leveling Warrior and clearing Hydaelyn Extreme when I have a lot of time (I NEED the Red Mage weapon).

[@yabiyabi]

I have a secret tip!! Everyone does Pixie beast tribes every day to level 80 to 90 ^.^

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

@@yabiyabi Well if you are bloodsworn, pixies give quite ok Exp... but if you still get reputation the exp are just a 3rd of that you recieve after being done with the reputation.

[@lllllShjnllll]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 More reason to just keep doing it until max so you can level other jobs faster. lol

[@yabiyabi]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 Hence I say it... kind of also because I thought Beast tribe, when I was new, it was relevant until it was 'done', when I realised not the case, I realise many people think this way, so I make sure to tell them to keep doing even after!

[@LegendaryBrandon1]

The eureka RDM wep is sick

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Until 6.x series starts which will be pretty soon since the Live Letter was announced to happen in Feburary.

[@ZombieSlayerTakashi]

Also there's your Grand Company Squadrons to work on. Basically you train up NPCs by sending them out on missions and then once they're high enough you get to use them in a select few Dungeons, great way to level Alts from 1 to 50. A kind of precursor to the Trust system. Although you may get Garrison Mission table PTSD from it so have care XP

[@Zelisius]

Endgame... trying to glamour up my lvl 80 reaper by farming heros gauntlet for a shadowless coat of maiming... 2 days.. still no coat. Sad reaper... 😞

[@Nerdybitz]

Minor correction on 1 member having a clear in savage and only 1 coffer appearing: Yes that is entirely true, but the savage raids also drop a random item on top of the 2 coffers, that random item is also gone if someone has a clear.

[@tsuribachi]

About Hunt: You can first acquire Hunt currency from level 50 hunt system and unlock further as you level up. The hunt boards give out daily hunt for small amount currency and exp and weekly hunt for Rank B Hunt. Rank B hunt only give reward if you have the corresponding bill which means you can get this reward once a week. Rank B is easiest to find since they respawn right after being killed somewhere in the map. Meanwhile, Rank A and S give tomestone and hunt currency. Unlike Rank B which is always present, Rank A and S only spawn in longer time. Rank A repawn timers vary in ARR but standardized to 4-6 hours for the expansions. These are the target of trains since their timer are consistent. Rank S, however, has timer that can last up to days. Also the most important part of Rank S is that they only spawn when their internal timer is up and their specific conditions are met. The condition can range from in-game condition (time, lunar phase and weather) to player activity, with varying level of difficulties (kill certain mob, complete certain FATE, perform certain action, harvest certain item, have that minion out, die, die in specific way, etc.). As such, Rank S, especially the current expansion one, take time and effort to spawn and give the biggest reward.

[@Lancun]

It's worth noting that A Realm Reborn Relics (in addition to still being some of the best-looking weapons in the game) are a monster of a grind. But one that's become a lot more reasonable thanks to flying in older zones. I'm currently working on my third one (the Warrior one, following my Ninja and Paladin grinds). It's an absurd grind, but many of them look so great and fitting with many of the glam options that it's well worth it.

[@HitodamaKyrie]

9:40 Heh, I'm a lvl 90 omnicrafter with all the master recipes unlocked and yet I never sell a dang thing on the market board. Honestly I have no idea what to even sale. How am I supposed to know what people buy? I don't buy stuff so that doesn't help...

[@donimmortal7692]

What to do at level90? I started about the same time as Asmon and still in ARR free trail, grinding relics, alts jobs, DD, doing side quests, leveling grand company. Can't imagine how much waited for me in later expansions.

[@Uasaxtele]

Hello Bellular ❤️ any chance of the patreon juicy stuff every month to be FF14 related?? 🤩

[@JDavisishere]

I started recently and just finished ARR MSQ, got level 50 BLM and decided to stop to experience the content. I unlocked RDM, SAM, and currently leveling PLD to 50 before moving on. It's incredible not having the "rush" to max level to spam M+/raids/etc.

[@BlameMaxSand]

Leveling alt jobs has been my semi casual endgame for a while. Just hitting that daily Prae run because I am a masochist.

[@lunitamaria89]

I only finished my SMQ last week, there is sooo much i want to do, atm only focusing on the raids and tomes for gearing, but once im able to conquer that ill be focusing on my crafting and gathering jobs, as well as go and do the old raids and hunt for glams! not enough time in a day!

[@hightierplayers2454]

I see a ton of comments telling him to go do basic side content which isn't endgame design in the least. Endgame design is actually one of FFXIV's biggest weaknesses. It doesn't contain anywhere near enough content or especially reward structures for said content that would make any of it worthwhile; anyone excited for this tier has to be new (stormblood or later at minimum). Given more years, everybody eventually tires of this game's poor structure and become "patch-only" players. Savage not being preserved in any real way or form is probably the first thing that makes people stop caring. World prog has virtually no purpose anymore because you'd have to be an idiot to force yourself into the absolute toughest and most unrewarding of circumstances repeatedly when waiting just a few weeks will mean established and optimized strategies exist (people will actually be toxic if you know day 1 strats instead of whatever the new pub strats are) as well as significantly more powerful gear to make things like dps checks not even a problem. The tomestone structure is still extremely stupid and things like weekly lockouts make prospects of playing very regularly unattractive in comparison to learning a new skill or improving your health in the real world. Nobody who is new will likely agree with this, but its because you haven't been around nearly long enough for these design flaws to wear down your enthusiasm until you just log in to check things and maybe do your weekly clears if even that. It would take a bare minimum of 6+ years to start feeling the fatigue that us from the pre-1.0 testing days have been drowning in for years already. Unfortunately, all the buzz 14 got last year has done nothing for the game itself improving where it has always needed it. New generations will take years before they reach the same conclusions that we vets have had since practically the start and launch of ARR endgame at least and so the community is doomed to this stupid conversation of whether players with this view are "old and bitter and not wanted anymore" when its actually new players who just have no idea how this game really is yet because it would take over half a decade passing before they can even have the mental wear-down to realize flaws. So, in the meantime we're unlikely to see any improvements because instead of a massive rally to change things, we're seeing endless praise of the mediocre aspects of 14 that honestly have needed some of the most improvement.

[@dark666105]

To be clear YOU ONLY GET LOCKED OUT OF LOOT! You can still run them for practice or to help others as many times as you wish.

[@apharys8921]

Well... upon clear of a Savage Raid the number of chests the group gets is 1 per 4 players who haven't cleared. If no one in the group has cleared the raid for the week there are 2 chests, if anywhere from 1-4 have cleared there's only 1 chest.

[@Poldovico]

@@apharys8921 People do practice runs with no coffers, and less experienced players who don't expect to clear might also be okay with taking fewer drops but having someone who has cleared on their team.

[@itsjezzer]

Another thing you can do if you haven't been doing it during live play is to unlock Flying in any zones you missed. Unlike having to endure a blizzard of rep grinds and arbitrary achievements to unlock flight, you just have to find 15 attunements on the map and complete 4 optional quests per zone (the 5th is usually awarded for completing the MSQ quests in that zone). Having flight unlocked across the board is key for farming FATEs and Hunts, and makes Gathering and any kind of dailies a lot more bearable.

[@thapotatonater827]

Since arr I always beat msq and any extremes they release and work on a relic each expansion while levelling up other classes like crafters and gatherers to make some Gil and then I’ll play a few hours every so often for weekly loot and money making between playing other games.

[@andrewshandle]

Only thing I think you are missing is giving Housing it's own section. I know you briefly mention it in the Social part, but just kitting out your own apartment/house is such a new experience for an ex-WoW player like me. I didn't buy my apartment until I hit 90 and did the 4 raid bosses, I bought it and thought I'd just throw a few things in. 3 weeks and about 2M gil later I've got a loft apartment with exposed brick and big bay windows that looks so awesome. I even took up crafting to afford it, but now I make furniture and sell it, and I even went into my apartment the other day and people from my FC were in there just chilling out checking out the changes I'd made. Honestly, how this isn't in WoW is the biggest mystery of all time when it comes to games.

[@darkendbeing]

So much back content to do. As someone who skipped eureka I just recently finished it and I’m still not prepped to run ba. So much to do in the game.

[@andrex1456]

We got ya normal raids we got ya savage raids we got ya extreme trials we got ya gear we got ya roulettes we got ya alliance raids we got ya Ultimates we got ya craftin/gatherin we got ya mount farms we got ya glam farms we got ya relics we got ya hunts we got ya fates we got ya maps we got ya Palace o' da dead we got ya heaven on high we got ya eureka we got ya bozja we got ya blue mage we got ya side stories we got ya (very optional) dailies we got ya (e)rp we got ya parties we got ya housing we got ya pvp we got everything you need baybee!!

[@timbryant4271]

I haven't seen it in the other comments, but one thing you missed is the 2nd and 3rd fights, will drop the items needed to upgrade the Tome gear. So you don't have too spend your Mythos tokens to get them.

[@wojciechpiosik302]

For me isnt much to do only 3 max lvl dungeons i ve liked m+ in wow so ff14 is lacking a lot

[@k.vn.k]

So many things to do in endgame: guildruns pandae c1 to c4, lfg runs pandae c1 to c4, feeling suicidal runs c1s to c4s, roulettes for astronomy runs, housing, erping, dancing, levelling alts to 90… or just chill out. Oh and endless fates party.

[@Elementasic]

Does anyone happen to know what Gshade preset/profile bellular uses?

[@Brittanyjo1313]

More really needs to be said on Eureka and Bozja. I can't wait till you take the time to do the content because its REALLY cool. A completely independent leveling system to get awesome glam AND unlocking the zones own 56 man savage raid. Super fun

[@algallontheobserver3780]

Tomestone gear is part of your BIS as a savage raider, the game is design so that even as a raider you still need to cap to complete your BIS, said gear is upgraded to 600 with a token from the 2nd fight of the tier for accessories and 3rd fight for armor parts. After the tier is unlocked the items can be obtained with Alliance raids currency "lock to one a per week" and hunts currency "Centurio seals for old stuff and nuts for the new stuff"

[@thomassilva3748]

In 6.1 once the first Alliance raid of the expansion comes out you get weekly coins that can be used to buy the upgrade materials for the Astronomy tomestone gear. Initially you'll only be able to buy the armor/accessory upgrade mats, but later down the line you will also be able to upgrade the tomestone weapon as well.

[@intermsofreality]

I've been level alt jobs while doing sidequests for extra lore/story. Haven't even touched raiding yet.

[@LukeGarou]

God, I forget some of this endgame stuff I wanna do. Like, I wanna do Palace of the Dead. And I still have Omega to get through. And I haven't even really touched the new raids yet. So much to do and see~

[@PeterReidUK]

Do you have a link to those tweets showing completion rates?

[@dale7326]

There is another type of endgame in XIV that even less ppl participate. Writing suggestions and reports of bugs, imagine quality (like that grape and pumpkin with low polygon), mentoring new players daily. Gardening and feeding your chocobo are also fun activities. In addition, as an fc owner, you need to send voyage ships and crafting those ships also take time, they bring back nice rewards that quite easy gil with a little effort for it. Doing all the sidequests in EW seems to be quite long than previous expansions and they have a lot of lore related back to ARR that you need a notebook to remember it. That treasure side quest is fun though.

[@alexandercurtis4671]

Don't need to pentameld crafting gear to make the stuff this patch and, if they follow the pattern, next patch we'll get a green crafting set. Also, the melding percentages depend on the type of materia you try to meld.

[@andruism7]

I know Captain Grimm joked about it, but for me a big portion of endgame IS housing!

[@christabelle__]

Roleplay on this level happens in WoW, too. You just can't see it bc we don't have housing. But yeah, RP is thriving on Crystal Data Center! The devs support it and love giving us ways to express who we are/who our characters are, and enjoy giving us ways to demonstrate that with housing!

[@keelahquib4926]

You say gold saucer, but really that expands beyond just chocobo racing to: Triple Triad: card collecting and tournaments Majjong: the 4 winds version that you can play against AI or other players Verminion: a strategy based mini game that uses your minion collection Also a frequent endgame pass time is to unsync older ex fights so farm mounts for friends who didn't or couldn't get them on content. And GPosing...all the GPosing

[@jesusdiaz4305]

I’m one of those advocates for the backlogged content. Not only are the older normal and alliance raids still extremely fun to experience, but the Euraka and Bozjan adventuring forays are also super engaging and fun! Aside from Bozja requiring players to complete the “Return to Ivalice” alliance raids to even enter (which isn’t a bad thing - said raids introduce mechanics that are reused in the Bozjan area’s “Critical Engagements”, serve as a great way to lvl and practice level 70 jobs like Realer and Sage, and introduce the player to the extremely engaging world of Ivalice from Final Fantasy Tactics & 12 together), there is something I feel I need to point out. Due to no longer being “current content”, Bozja is not nearly as populated as it used to be pre-EW; although the Bozjan areas are considered the best place to earn experience for classes 71-80 due to how frequent their fates are (called “skirmishes” inside due to minor differences from normal fates), most players are still completing the EW msq & Panda raids. I mention this because the Bozjan areas include their own built in raids - one “normal” raid per area and one “alliance” raid in between the two areas. These are ALL super fun to do and still VERY clearable since they scale in difficulty to the number of people you have, but the lack of population very likely means you’ll now need to make use of the party finder outside of the Bozjan areas to get at least a full team of 8 together to beat the content and progress through the story. (Thank the devs for RDMs and their double cast verraise. 🙌) This is especially true for unlocking the Savage version of the Bozja alliance raid; DR (Savage) is so hard that you get punted from the team if you die and don’t get revived in time (a nod to FF:Tactics), effectively requiring constant communication to avoid boss enrages/full alliance wipes. Oh - did I mention the “any 2 hit, instant doom” mechanic the alliance raid has in both normal AND savage? Bozja is great for everyone looking for difficult content to clear and/or just trying to level their classes, so I encourage you to please make use of the party finder! (Bellular, if & when you get to this point I’d appreciate you drawing attention to this. Interest in Bozja shouldn’t wane just because people don’t want to team up in an MMO. 👍)

[@AoiKaze2000]

Thankfully the DoH [crafter] and DoL [gatherer] gear is largely shared between all of the respective classes, so (in theory) you only need to meld the right and left side once for all the crafters, and again for the gatherers, then do main and offhand per class.

[@jamvng]

I've played this game for 6 years, and there is still old content I haven't done that is on my list. I just don't need to login all the time, and can do the content in my own pace. I still want to get those fishing titles, necromancer title one day, Ultimate titles, leveling other jobs. All while I'm doing the current raiding treadmill in Savage.

[@Prengle]

In a way, it's really not far from the TBC-5.0 design formula. At least when we talk about player-power focused stuff. Yoshida and team have explicitly referenced building ARR based upon the design of WoW as it was the time. Do your 5-mans for early gear and the equivalent of badges, hit up crafting for any potential gear upgrades etc, hit your lockouts. There is a lot more intrinsic reward to these activities though, ESPECIALLY in crafting for example. I still feel it's facetious to say "Oh you can run 2.0 content for a weapon skin!!!" as viable end-game content. Plus once you've played FFXIV for a while all that's done and over with. Much like WoW for long time players, all that's just dead old content. (think about it like this, do you need Legion weapon skins anymore? If you played during Legion you probably got what you wanted then or have already since gone back to finish what was there. Same with all the years of mount farming, going for loremaster or some other crazy titles, etc. No one's calling that stuff endgame in WoW.)

[@EvilPikachu]

Endgame for me is catching up on damn near everything. Been playing about 3 years and only my Dragoon is max level. I only just unlocked Warrior. Put almost no time into crafting. Never tried the Eden raids or Heaven On High. I have so much to do I will never get bored. Having said that, my priority for today is learning how to play Speed Of Light by Joe Satriani in Performance Mode. Bards have electric guitars now. Be a shame to waste it.

[@ms.mittenz]

What is the song at around 5 mins?

[@mamayareborn]

Slight correction: Although when playing with players who've already cleared this lockout you may lose up to 2 chests, you will STILL receive Mythos regardless. There is always at least Mythos rewards.

[@Mekose]

The best thing about FFXIV is respect to your time. Director Yoshi-P said his ideal vision of a player was a salary person that could come home, log in for an hour or two; and still get to experience everything and have an enjoyable progression. There are no mindless grinds, there are no strict lock outs, there's no reputation, it doesn't take weeks or months to unlock flying or any content, etc. I never feel like I'm "falling behind" in the player base by not dedicating my life to it like WoW or Black Desert. I don't get stomped on by other players with more time and money to p2w or grind. Every "lock out" is very easily attainable like tomestones; while there is content for those hardcore players like earning a ton of gil or buying a super expensive trophy mount. This is a good thing and a bad thing. There's still a part of me that wants to be rewarded for no-lifing the game like Black Desert. There's a part of me that wants competition like good PVP or leaderboards; but FFXIV isn't that kind of game and I never feel pressured to log in or get left behind. FFXIV is always there for me when I want to log in, do whatever I want, hang out with friends, and have fun. It doesn't beg you to play it; which some times can burn a little motivation when you log on and aren't really sure what you want to do because the incentives are so lenient.

[@minyaw1234]

I didn't find a static with my possible time slots. I cleared the first one in pf and decided... who cares. I'll play sporadically the next few months and maybe find a static later or when the second savage releases. No need to waste my time, I started playing other games more - like I wanted to try out No Man's Sky for a while and just had tons of fun with it, and no pressure that I have to manage a second job like I did with other MMOs.

[@warllockmasterasd9142]

Hey bell Cool loot Chest, but when is the FF variation appearing:j. Aside from that great Video. But listen now. Everybody knows the True Endgame of FF14 is Glams. -glam research. -glam hunting. -glam planning of the sets. -glam frustrations of running out of Space. -glam enjoyment of watching your work and others. A universal Truth of the Game. Glam.

[@Sililos]

Word of advice Matt, Do the waring triad quest line then go do the Shadowbringers Heavenly Virtues questline. (All of them). You Will NOT be disappointed, but you need to finish the Triad first. (No clue if there's any other content that should be done first, Triads just the part i know improves things).

[@archseer_]

i've crafted in all the MMOs i've played. FFXIV's crafting is amazing, i literally can get lost in the flow of it

[@danteleinguard9079]

I have play ff14 for over 10 years , while the game has a lot of content and easy grind and have fun things to do like the goldsaucer it lacks in exploration, that is the one thing that it throws me off everytime im done with the main quest and do some raids , yes you can have fun with your guild rping in the Ghouse or just farm for mats but I always feel like the world it self is just there to enlarge your travel, mobs are completely ignore unless are part of a quest or fate other than that you just pass by them ignoring them completely with no meaning of killing them or getting anything from there unless you looking for mats that are easy to buy in the market , I just wish there's more to do around other than fates in the world like add some low drops to get a pet from them or even a mount , also the game needs more weapon and armor loot drop from regular monsters , im not bashing on a game that I have play for so long but it lacks of exploration , I wish ff14 would have a exploring system like black desert( yes I know is a p2p game but im not pointing out how bad the economy is in that game ) and a decent pvp like wow (you may hate wow and their developers but they know how to make a good pvp ) or guild wars

[@HadeaRin]

I don't know how to make exploration one but I'm quite sure that they're trying to breath some life in PvP at 6.1 with the new PvP modes and general overhaul on how they're going to go with it. Maybe you should try dipping to it after it gets added to know how the changes affect pvp as a whole.

[@sophiastorm8616]

i kinda of agree with you. PVP is getting reworked so lets hope it finally works but exploration is in fact....lacking. the new system of the bicolour stones is nice and it s helpsbut it s not enough.a diferent system in world booses could help. they really need to think something new

[@danteleinguard9079]

@@sophiastorm8616 exactly , once you done with the MSQ the world's feel empty and pointless , mobs are just there to just fill the gaps so it doesn't give you the sense of desolation , but the sense of exploring is not there and that is why once im done with the msq and some raids I just stop playing till the next msq comes up , end game for me just feel like playing bigger version of IMVU wish for some people is the best thing ever but for some others is just bored

[@iceman3317]

@@danteleinguard9079 100% agree. I really wish people would stop praising it as if it is god tier. It is not the best game in the world. They only reason it feels like there is a lot of content right now is because they are new. I don't think people understand how repetitive FF14 is going to get for them. And I am afraid it is going to ruin people's opinion on it. And Belluar is acting like every single person did nothing but high level raiding when most people didn't even freaking care. And thinks many people are going to be excited about these 'parties' they have which I just don't like the idea of even going to, so I am sure there is a massive amount of people like me. Not that everyone is, but it isn't a 'this is why you should play' point. They need to stop praising it without pointing out problems. They probably haven't even tried Eureka and Bozja which was one of the worst grinds I have ever done in a game before I quit doing it.

[@Grimaldo354]

I like what you said about how the game doesn't force you into a certain endgame trajectory. Its all optional, no pressure, and you can go in and out of it no problem. There are real grinds if you want it, real tough raid content, but no real pressure to do it. It certainly does respect your time.

[@donmid9112]

Note on Crafting/Gathering gear - All the gear (Left/Right) is shared amongst them - just the Main/Off hands are different. (Crafter Set of Gear and then Gathering Set of Gear)

[@andrewshandle]

Quite a bit of ARR level gear is Botany or Mining specific though, so don't do something silly like buy a whole set and find out you can't use it on both...and no, I totally didn't do this earlier this week...nope, not me.

[@donmid9112]

@@andrewshandle Good point. If you go with Scrip gear. You can't pentameld those - hence why I mentioned you didn't need to buy 3 sets of gear as it was overmeld convo.

[@tamacullen]

Note: Pentamelded stuff is always bis for crafters, most of the time, scrip gear is "good enough" to craft that.

[@networknomad5600]

Has you thrilled? There's literally nothing at endgame past the savage content. Sure, max out ever job/class if you're really interested, though that sounds dumb af. XIV has long had a problem with very little long form content, so even if you want to keep playing past a patch's release, the content draught is so real you end up logging in just to blank on what you actually want to do... then just log off. Eureka and Bozja were their attempts at longer form content, but even that feels a bit bland and not planned out enough. XIV continues to have a gear progression problem similar to WoW as well, where the gear barely matters and is either forgettable or simply replaced by the next patch.

[@gunbiz]

Matt and belluar wedding when?

[@MediArgentum]

No Savage or other "High-end" duties for me, no thank you. By the way, you can still upgrade your gear to iLvl.600 without doing Savage content. It will just take _a lot_ more time, and you also have to wait until Alliance Raids come out, cause that's the key to doing it.

[@blackmagekongs2588]

The beauty about ff14 is that its more than just a game. Its a social platform where you meet all kinds of people from all around the world. It's pretty insane and apart from just the usual combat gameplay, there are a TON of other things to do.

[@AsterothRayet]

slight amendment, The capped tomestone gear pieces ARE used for bis on any given class. True Bis is going to be a mix of Savage and Augmented Tomestone (a augmenting upgrade token obtained from savage and eventually the alliance raid in 6.1) based on the secondary stat distribution. Augmented Tomestone, and Savage have the SAME stat TOTALS.

[@Aqua_Wren]

He said that.

[@Willias]

Note, once it's added, the 24 man in 6.1 will drop a token (once a week) that can be used to upgrade ilvl 590 Astronomy gear to ilvl 600 gear.

[@Strider_Shinryu]

One important thing to note is that combat BiS really isn't required to do, well, much of anything. If you're a full end game raider you'll basically have to already clear the hardest fights to get BiS and then BiS will essentially just let you reclear faster and easier. If you don't have BiS, you're not really locked out of any content so it's more of a goal you can achieve rather than something you NEED to get.

[@specialnewb9821]

I've heard FF14 seems to place more weight on skill checks than gear checks in its harder content. Is that accurate?

[@Strider_Shinryu]

@@specialnewb9821 If you're talking first week or two clears, that's mostly true. Failing mechanics will often either kill the player or the party or, assuming there isn't a death, give damage down debuffs so that at the end of the fight you just won't have enough cumulative DPS to beat the enrage timer. Eventually after players are able to gear up they can overcome the penalties somewhat so if combat stats do anything it actually is just that they open the door for lower skilled or less coordinated groups to clear content the top players have already cleared. Essentially, if everyone does the mechanics right and everyone in your party is playing their job to it's near best, you can beat any content that the game throws at you as long as you have the minimum stats required to get through the door.. but it can be by a razors edge.