FFXIV: Xeno Reacts to YoshiP Stance on ACT

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[@Justintime328]

I have not ever bullied the low DPS........... I AM THE LOW DPS

[@frenchdream330]

The feels 😂😂

[@SquallLion90]

Based

[@a.j.thegamer703]

OMG this comment is GOLD

[@TaigaGalette]

prepare to be bullied nerd!

[@AlchemicSoul]

*lightning flashes*

[@animehbkscm]

"Use it if you want, just don't let us know and for the love of god don't use it to bully people"

[@Zootola]

But bullying people is fun...

[@crimsonwolf3421]

Basically. Which should be common sense but apparently not.

[@bophadesknutz7798]

@@kyoutasan3506 hes not wrong

[@i_am_the_monkey_king]

@@bophadesknutz7798 Double yikes..

[@az90azaaaa]

@@i_am_the_monkey_king hes not wrong either

[@Kag001]

The first rule of ACT is too never talk about ACT.

[@krisnayosep7121]

What is ACT..? Is it the same like fight club..?

[@TaigaGalette]

@@krisnayosep7121 in game i refer to it as Voldemort

[@ember-evergarden]

Not really

[@KainZC]

sorry i had to turn the 69 likes to 70

[@ClerifyGames]

Snowflake community on it's best.

[@lmpoknya]

People focus too much on the usage of ACT, but the underlying point really is "Don't harass others".

[@greatninja2590]

the people who are against ACT are the one who are harassing people lol

[@RogerCh888]

ACT just like religion should be used to better yourself, not to bully others

[@Sioolol]

People just refuse to accept that they actualy enjoy harrasing others (in one way or another) in multiplayer games. But is winning a harassment for the loser? it's quite an interesting topic, considering the wide definition of what this terms can mean for an individual.

[@TsarDragon]

@@RogerCh888 Couldn't have said it better myself

[@SoraNhasni]

have you considered being Yoshi P's angry translator? but you right, he's right XD

[@ZinoDavidoffXIII]

Xeno is the angry translator for the NA raiding community. He takes on all of our asshole energy and processes it so that we can be kind in-game.

[@Teachidoll]

Now that would be a video series I'd watch

[@Coaltergeist]

holy fuck yes

[@ferallion3546]

It’s be very funny. In Japanese culture being reserved is a valued self discipline trait. Of course inwardly everyone is venting lol

[@blubblubwhat]

rofl

[@Alson123000]

So “we don’t support it and we won’t allow it but we won’t know whether you’re using it, and if you’re using it just don’t let us know it”

[@Trigonxv1]

Its the first rule of fight club too bad people can't seem to follow the rules

[@J-manli]

To rephrase it “it’s illegal only if you get caught,”

[@natev580]

@@Rockboygg Simply because finding out is a breach of privacy and SE can be sued for doing it. It's got nothing to do with them not wanting to. They legally can't do it.

[@harvmiester1]

Honestly, it's probably the smartest way to do it. You can let your players minmax with a parser, but you don't let them use that parse to create a toxic environment in duties like how you have dicks always linking DPS meters in WoW.

[@moss5667]

@@natev580 EA

[@a_tired_dad]

I will never admit nor deny the alleged or proven hypothetical or real use or lack there of of third party tools by me or any other player nor will I divulge the documented or unverified size of my or any player's pp

[@Tyranastrasza]

As a PS4 player, i'm feeling left out of the whole conversation.

[@shally_ff14]

My way to tell if im doing good is the play samurai and if you have friends who use ACT, just ask how is your dps. If you're on the top that means your doing your job right. Im ps4 i feel this 😂 also stone sky sea thing helps too.

[@MerDuke]

I don’t wanna be part of the conversation, but i hope no one will go against me or kick me because i dont have bis gear etc.. just because youre at the bottom of the list, doesnt mean youre doing bad overall. Just means everyone else is doing extra well or you aren’t focusing on optimization. Being the bottom in the smart class is better than being the top in a dumb class.

[@justaman4887]

As a ps4 player the agrro list is my ACT

[@lovelacelive1242]

@@MerDuke Nobody cares in story content and normal/alliance raids. I've seen plenty of DPS that clearly don't know their rotation and have healers and tanks beat their DPS by 2-3x but it just doesn't matter because the only impact from that is a fight taking an extra 30 seconds. Additionally nobody cares if you're the lowest DPS in a fight everyone is doing well in. If top DPS is 15k and bottom DPS is 10-12k you likely won't ever see a complaint because the fights aren't tuned to the point where everyone needs to be doing optimal rotations with 100% up time. I think the biggest eye opener though with things like ACT is when you think you're absolutely smashing a fight and realize you're doing 15-20% less DPS then another person on your same job. This can obviously be things like gear differences but a lot of times its actually because your fight opener is complete garbage and you don't even realize it or you're not optimizing your GCD usage and oGCD weaves. I've seen plenty of people in game make weird comments about not using certain abilities "hardly ever" and still confidently believe they are pulling top DPS and not once has that ever been true. The biggest issue with people not knowing how they perform is that everyone incorrectly assumes they are doing much better than they actually are.

[@mephiston7253]

he knows this cause he and his team also plays WoW and its def seen in WoW and he doesn't want it in FFXIV

[@yaggity]

I remember hearing somewhere he’s a top 1% wow player too. Dudes such a gamer lol

[@veppy4952]

@@Kuroganemk2 you gotta be joking lol.

[@Lilybellmusic]

@@Kuroganemk2 "You just do it over and over again untill you learn the patterns and that's all", but the hardest bosses in wow have insanely difficult patterns. If you put 100% of the population into very difficult fights, 99% of them would not be able to do it, while the 1% who can do the mechanic and meet the dps check can clear it. Isn't that the definition of skill?

[@anthony26812]

@@Kuroganemk2 that's still considered skill. It may not be much mechanical skill, but being able to perform actions better than other people due to practice or time spent is still being more skilled.

[@anthony26812]

@@Kuroganemk2 what's not hard for you may be hard for others, not everyone understands things the same way others do. Some people are not as good at skills that ffxiv uses and are better at things like FPS, and every skill gets improved with time and practice including hard skills. Idk exactly what you mean by hidden talents but that's something that can be practiced and learned the same way ffxiv skills can, although obviously some learn faster/easier than others which again showcases skill.

[@ZaestraXD]

Some people genuinely don't know when they are performing poorly. As soon as I first turned on ACT and saw how far behind I was in some groups it was a good indicator that I should probably look stuff up to see how I can stop holding my group back. It's also nice to see certain jobs doing well on certain fights to make you interested in checking out those other jobs.

[@kokumosu]

Its a handy tool for self improvement; I ran it myself in the background while running P2 blind run and as a tank i was barely scaping by 3k when the highest performance was 4.4k. Given this was a blind run and not knowing the mechanics impacted performance, It def makes me say to myself, I can do better now knowing the mechanics of the fight

[@ferallion3546]

Yoshi P’s response about third party tools reminds me of something else in Japanese culture that is similar. Pachinko. It’s illegal to run a pachinko parlor that also rewards players via gambling. You can however have your points (in the form of ball bearings) added up and you will receive a wooden token that signifies how well you did. Well there are third party companies who will purchase your valued wooden token for cash, no questions asked. They “collect” such valued tokens in their niche community. The authorities strongly suggest that participants not participate in this loophole in the law but they also will not ask if you are exchanging tokens, and for the most part they don’t want to know, as long as it’s not hurting anyone. This was very interesting to watch as it is very culturally, Japanese.

[@donavonhoho]

Jokes on y'all. I play bard. I'm always bottom dps.

[@pixielst]

Ha! You can't out-bottomdps my dancer!

[@pozziellen]

But let's be honest...that amazing feeling to top dps despite being a ranged makes it worth.

[@jonathanarvizu1403]

ty for the damage boost champ o7

[@CrowYaeger]

You're not bottom if there's a Dancer

[@Keldrath]

cries in dancer

[@ahmednassif5044]

I'm relatively new to game never knew your stream before but you have become my favorite ffxiv strummer for sure thank you so much for all the content and info you're putting out there for us I'm learning a lot from you thank you !

[@XenosysVex]

oh damn, yo thx a lot!

[@ahmednassif5044]

@@XenosysVex i have a question i don't if you can help me with after i watched your vod and stream for Drk I'm trying to learn your opener but because i live in Europe and I'm playing in Na my ping is high nd can't use vpn cuz I'm on console so my problem is first I'm clipping sometimes second I'm not being able to do five bloodspiller I'm only doing only 4 my cd is 2.41 with food do you think if i got more skill speed that will help or there's nothing i can do ? Thank you in advance!!!

[@XenosysVex]

Up your skill speed so your gcd is 2.40 or 2.39. Also makes sure you're hitting your delirium as your second off gcd

[@ahmednassif5044]

@@XenosysVex thank you so much boss you are the best, looking forward to learn more and improve myself from your knowledge and experience i appreciate that a lot

[@XelaShade]

That cut at the end was icing on cake xD

[@manux5306]

Using ACT has helped me a lot about my rotation and keep improving myself, bullying ppl about their parsers is something so dumb, in WoW is so disgusting how you can get expelled from a guild or a raid just because you are not the best or you are trying to learn.

[@ProteoEuthismos]

Yeah, it can be a valuable tool for self improve or help other pople. But as many tools around, it can be used to ruin the social harmony in the game.

[@lichmourne00]

WoW's not that black and white with damage meters. Most people in normal and heroic raiding guilds don't care if they have to carry a few people. It's not that hard. Mythic raiding is tuned around each and every character playing optimally so you just can't kill a boss sometimes unless you replace the weak link. The problem lies in starting mythic progress with people not knowing this truth and being blindsided by the raid leader because they expected it to be just like the other difficulties. Personally I've never heard of someone being kicked from a guild for low dps and if you have then they werent worth your time anyways since they dont sound like friends.

[@prinstyrio0]

@@lichmourne00 It's more a problem the lower you get. The higher content you do, the more you have people who sees problems to be fixed rather than taking the quick way out, and people with patience, otherwise they wouldn't be up for such hard content and succeed. But the lower you go, the more accessible the content is, the more casual and prone to strangers, the more these tools becomes weapons rather than actual tools. And no matter how you go about it, majority of the players are in this bracket whilst those doing harder content are a minority. The latter also goes for guilds entering this content. Not all are equipped and ready for it, and takes the same mindset they into it, kicking people left and right, behaving with toxicity. Majority of them die out and don't get anywhere (I've been part of 2), but it's not always as simple as "Well it was good you got kicked out" or "Should've left it", as the whole atmosphere is way more muddled until afterwards, especially if this is your first experience into it, which then taints your whole enjoyment of it as well rather than introducing something new and fun.

[@frostdracohardstyle]

@@prinstyrio0 But this isnt a problem with the tools, its a problem with those people. They would be looking for reasons to behave that way when things go wrong anyway. Why is it that GW2 has arc dps, and doesnt have this problem?

[@lichmourne00]

@Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo I unno what to say man. You can just pug normal and heroic raids until you put in an application to a better guild and trial a few out while you see if they are a fit for you or you're a fit for them.

[@Shnazz999]

I wish there was a personal parse so I can see my own DPS, my average DPS across multiple attempts, and find ways to improve my gameplay. I suppose the training dummy does this but I would like to see the concept expanded.

[@valience1739]

The problem commonly cited with the dummy, and by extension the sky, sea, and stone tests, is that you can sit there and straight dps. While that's great for training muscle memory it doesn't reflect a real fight where you have to do mechanics that affect your uptime and take other character's raid buffs into consideration to optimize your burst windows and such. Not saying that you can't use the dummy to get your rotation down, but I personally wouldn't use it as an accurate gauge of your dps in a fight.

[@InvictusRed1911]

They kind of do shit like that using Stone, Sky, Sea - I've seen PFs advertise that a certain time has to be beat in SSS in order to join (completely missing the point that beating SSS in the first place is sufficient), and that someone from the static will go to SSS and use a stopwatch or whatever to validate the time. I suppose in an ideal world we can constantly chase ourselves and maybe a "Ghost Racer" like function in SSS where we chase our best run would be personally beneficial.

[@bophadesknutz7798]

Kagerou and Mopi have options to just show your own DPS, rainbow can too I guess but that one is more complicated.

[@Carsu12]

@@valience1739 thing is, do you need to know that stuff?

[@erebus3479]

Knowing your personal dps without other players' to compare to is useless.

[@undream7897]

The reason yoship will never make an act officially is cause he’s played wow and he knows that shit is %80 of the toxicity

[@Unit_With_Legs]

It's true. It's like being nice to someone in public that's easy, now try it when they are going 19 in a 45 mph zone.

[@dkoykoala1488]

Its not the dsp metters its the game as a whole.

[@saindst]

WoW and FF are NOT the same game though. WoW is almost INFINITELY more competetive than FF14 and it is that kind of competition that breeds the personalities you find in WoW.

[@neruneri]

@@saindst But that remains true largely because SE makes a deliberate effort to keep it that way. The introduction of ACT to the game would unquestionably be moving the game into the same competitive direction that WoW is in.

[@saindst]

@@neruneri SE do not hold cash tournaments for actual money. It will never be a competetive game like WoW. That is not a bad thing either.

[@schneecoraxx8689]

Im a super new player, I use ACT cause im a huge numbers nerd. I love the spreadsheets at the end of every trial. But i couldnt imagine bullying people over their numbers. Idk what gear they are in, idk how new they are to the class, idk if their just having a bad day. My numbers are for me.

[@sukjinaigoo716]

Xeno dropping in on the Dev panel is fucking gold! I remember his Dark Knight video and his drop in there, too funny!

[@Noone-pf8sb]

Big thanks for posting streams to KZbin, Xeems. I try to have you up, but sometimes boo wants to hang out and I miss some killer strum moments

[@a_tired_dad]

Oh God the FF Festival insert killed me 😅🤣😂

[@Noone-pf8sb]

The cut out is so perfect

[@aptom203]

I don't personally use ACT. I do use gshade, so I'm not vehemently opposed to third party programs. My general view on it, though, is that ACT should be a tool for personal development if you use it. Use it to figure out how you can do better, rather than calling out how other people are doing worse, and you won't have any problems.

[@1000BabyRage]

14:38 what a nice library

[@pockysucks]

I strive to be the lowest DPS so that others won't get bully. I shall protect you brethren

[@NeedCoffeefix]

My SAM automatically deals more damage than my DNC. I don't need to see it. But, I do like it on my DNC because it's so much easier to see who my dance partner is going to be. Much easier than looking at the agro list.

[@idleeidolon]

officially, it's illegal. it IS however, decriminalized. he just wants to avoid a reporting war. especially with how addicted to justice japanese players are.

[@methos4866]

This hits the nail on the head. He wants to avoid a witch hunt.

[@petree]

Prolly wants to avoid a witch hunt akin to the guy who had mods and how a dude made it their life goal to harass him out of ff14. Even doxed the dude and actually ultimately got him banned despite being the one who heavily harassed him and got a community of players to harass him and the people they played with. The harasser I think got away Scott free too

[@tc-tm1my]

@@petree wtf

[@petree]

@Dizzy Gear this is a true story. Not necessarily cancel culture either but japanese groupism culture more so tbh. The player had to have someone tell his story for him. They were getting harassed and the people that they played with. The story of the player is somewhere online if you search for it. It's pretty sad. Clearly mods in the wrong but nothing warranted the the emotional and mental harassment they through

[@greatninja2590]

I guess its one of those Japanese laws with no criminal charges. example is having dual citizen they really don't care as long as you don't mention it and just show your Japanese passport all the time. that law only really works for famous people cause its a good way to monopolize their tax money.

[@ryanc5572]

"Let me... let me mute this." Thank you. I couldn't take another second

[@dantesparda1880]

Skip soar or disband

[@rmathiesen5125]

Great content xeno, keep up the good work. Do you mind sharing which skin you use for ACT??

[@bophadesknutz7798]

Uses Rainbowmage, imo the cleanest one. He has a tutorial for it with his skin on his YT.

[@angelods417]

Does anyone have the link to the skip sore or disband video he is talking about at 9:20?

[@NighDarke]

I'm DL'ing this right now. I just want to know if I'm doing ok damage, I don't care about anyone else. It'll be a tool for me to improve MY gameplay.

[@normalmighty]

It's useful as a tool, but it's best turned off when you've got your own performance down. Imo a long term impulse to constantly check dps is what leads to toxicity. There are inevitably going to be occasions where your dps is blowing everyone else out of the water, even as a tank or healer. Those occasions can add up over time and slowly change the type of player you are. I've seen a good few people turn from positive team players to toxic assholes over a few years, and each of those few players started changing when they made a point to always track their dps.

[@ShereRho]

@@normalmighty turning off is absolute madness. It is impossible to PF current content when you're dragging dead weight and blaming a program for people being toxic is giving way too much credit to toxic morons.

[@johnr8284]

@@ShereRho I've never used a dps calculator, and I've also never had any problems clearing savage or extreme content. its honestly not that much of a loss either to not use one. I've had party finder groups, with far from BIS or without food bonuses or whatever, and it goes fine. It isn't a disadvantage or big advantage either way though. true, most parties in party finder use ACT, but it isn't required in the least. toxic morons dont last long in party finders. they just don't. my friend uses ACT and they say that it isn't that much of a help in the first place, it's mainly just "oh hey I do half-decent damage." having it off is far from absolute madness. I feel like if you are THAT worried about your dps output, you aren't actually enjoying the game the way it is supposed to be enjoyed. I know people that have gotten all savage mounts, including eden and omega/alex back when it was still current, with no damage calculator at all.

[@yaboi2500]

@Dizzy Gear Ok, WoW player.

[@bousch8253]

I've never been told I can't join a group or kicked out of one because of ACT. But I've been told I can't join because I parsed green as a healer during my E12S or ultimate clear on FFlogs. I think FFlogs are more the problem, because you can't do shit about it and some rando ass can post your info and how you did for the world to see regardless if it was a bad pull, progression, or just a normal clear. Sure you can set it not to show your info. But to most that is just as bad or worse because it gives a "what are you hiding" vibe to others. Hence for the past 2 years I strictly do savage or other harder content with a static. So in my opinion ACT has nothing compared to FFlogs as far as possible bullying. Cause with ACT, the action of bullying can only be done during the fight. But with FFlogs, the action bullying can be done before the fight even starts.

[@bpaulauskas]

Holy shit I love watching you translate/read stuff

[@MatrixJanrabbit]

dude, your beard is fucking glorious.

[@KrazyBean14]

It really is. He's got the Kratos beard going.

[@kimod5435]

Im just waiting on him to call chat "boy"

[@AlbertStone92]

Thank you for the video. I'm a wow player trying FF and I really need to know how I'm performing. I just enjoy extracting all the power I can from my class based on my level and gear of course. I have improved a lot on wow looking at my numbers and watching other people playing and seeing their numbers. I can use this ACT now after your video (I didn knew about that Yoshi video, so I watched through you) I found your channel because of your Asmongold reacts and his reacts as well. You're a beast and I am really enjoying your content.

[@Viceprezbacon]

I feel like this was the anger translator from a Key and Peele Skit.

[@davidbrooks2872]

I'm glad you made this Video. The key is using ACT to harass or gatekeep people from groups of content, unless you want to eat a ban of course.

[@SwordofPsalms]

Why not have an option that enables or disables a built-in ACT for queue before a dungeon pop?

[@Mortimer13]

at 9:30 he talks about something that must have happened a while ago that has to do with "skipsore and disban"? He made a video on that. Can someone please point me to that video or what it was about. I can't find it looking for "skipsore", I must be mishearing :-)

[@Shamrockin]

from AdamG6391 on reddit 4 years ago: It's a mechanic on Zurvan EX Basically, zurvan is in the middle, three lines appear and Zurvan divides and dashes along those lines to the edge of the arena. Then those three Zurvans dash across the arena again to the opposite edge like Ifrit or Ravana (in other words, those three radiuses from part 1 become diameters, eg a mid-north line becomes a north-south) After zurvan splits, everyone but the healers gets a fairly large AoE on them which will explode as zurvan does the full arena charges, if a non-tank eats two explosions or a charge, they will probably die After the soar, someone gets marked with a "stack here" marker with a hilariously short timer, so everyone IMMEDIATELY needs to collapse into the center The difficulty comes in the fact that there are two patterns of soar that must be quickly identified, and very few safe spots where you can stand without blowing someone else up or dying to someone else or zurvan's charge The reason it has become a meme is that despite being difficult, the mechanic can be cheesed: if you do enough DPS when he's in "stripper cake" mode, he will skip the first soar, resulting in a LOT of parties that demand enough DPS to skip the mechanic, mainly because they can't do it properly themselves. The community then took this and started making jokes that you need to do enough DPS to skip soar, even in situations where soar isn't even present.

[@Mortimer13]

@@Shamrockin haha, thanks for the writeup. That's actually funny lol

[@ps4share74]

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[@ElMofo9]

I play on console and just want to know if my dps is shit and im getting carried or if im pulling my own weight. I just started playing 2 months ago so im assuming im not putting out amazing dps but if im doing something wrong id like to know what that is so I don't keep doing the same stupid crap without knowing and fail miserably when I go to try doing actual hard content when im done with the story

[@Brawneteer]

Building on what Yoshi said about not wanting to have people wanting others to prove X DPS value in order to be a part of their team, he's absolutely right because it's happened in RuneScape. Short version, there's an item called a Challenge crystal, which will measure how much damage you and anyone else who signs up for it can do in 5 minutes. Players use these to measure their damage output and set requirements for others, saying "if you can't hit 200k dpm, you can't be a part of our group for this boss."

[@Demeskis1337]

What is the Beverly Hills Ninja situation?

[@AlchemicSoul]

I think the way its setup now is actually about as good as we could hope for, even if its on unsteady ground. You get to use the tool, to reap its benefits for your own usage and your potential static/fc/etc's own usage but it also cannot be used as a weapon to harass others and warp other parts of the game that don't nessecarily need meters present. I love data, and the concept of detailed metering but WoW has factually proven they can hugely compromise a game and a community when left unchecked. Also, great video, great content, subbing for sure.

[@danielhill8926]

completely off subject and I dont expect I'll ever get a response, but can someone give me the name of the song he pauses in the beginning of the video?

[@clarksoulsXIV]

Did you ever find this! I need it in my life

[@surgetsann]

I think a good balance would be to have an in game parser only in ultimates and unreal and maybe current savage tiers. or only have it track your personal dps, or maybe a 3rd option instead of just completes and incompletes in pf and add clear for the stone sky sea

[@heathaltom8601]

As a former WoW player, I can confirm Yoshi-P validity of being 100 thousand millionish % right on ACT. In theory, it can be a great tool. In practice, small pepe moves are usually made. Yes, your right, it is my fault. My old game standardized third party tools being overly relied upon. Yoshi-P saw the WoW community and chose a better route. It even feels like he wants to say " Just don't be a jerk, you'll probably be fine."

[@lunaticmode638]

Have you considered that they could just make it display your own DPS?

[@ZeniteZero]

For a sec there, I thought Xeno was about to say "Yoshi P can't say for sure that ACT causes bullying", but then he was an absolute CHAD and pointed out that idiots who use ACT data to bully people have set that precedent. I wish I could sub twice to this channel, just because of that.

[@bigbigu8671]

Yoshi-P is a legend, always so modest and true.

[@Oceanworker]

its just a not focus on numbers but the gameplay is what there focusing on cuz they feel like there fights are manageable enough to get thru

[@skrillsama6106]

I ain't never seen a soar in my life.

[@PaulRizzo504]

So going by his definition showing more then one persons name on a dps meter like you do could be bannable now that he has clarified if a single person complains that you group with in FF14. You are walking a fine line of a facing a ban if you get pissed on stream at a pug who is low on the damage meter you have displayed.

[@ProteoEuthismos]

Probably, but Yoshi was talking about the comments like "X player with this low XXX DPS slow my progresion, never play with this person" Or "Look at this sprout numbers, get out of here". Things like that.

[@PaulRizzo504]

@@ProteoEuthismos It is very easy to slip up as I have seen Xeno raid on stream. Get a pissed off person who thinks they are being called out with a dps meter on screen and bam he gets screwed. Yoshi P also just clarified this for their American gm's

[@Tyranastrasza]

@@PaulRizzo504 Yeah he is walking a fine line. And he and Athras have crossed it at least once.

[@JosephReference]

this guy is great

[@eldencheese8037]

I don't need to know how much dmg someone else does, but it's nice to know personal dps, so if they incorporate something like that...doesn't need to be an entire log. Everyone else's information could be private

[@FabbrizioPlays]

Honestly, the fact that every instance has a minimum ilvl you need in order to enter, and a maximum ilvl you get synced down to, already does a ton to cut down on factors for harassment. By the time you even get to the point where ACT enters the equation, everyone's contribution is already pretty homogenized. This is a game where ability to do mechanics is much more important than being able to squeeze the most out of your rotation. There are very few DPS checks, and if you can't make the check, it's probably not just one player dpsing poorly. It's probably a couple.

[@Brandunfriendlyman]

And when looking for a static they have things like "Post logs" so it's already a problem.

[@rhirune]

The problem is that current level cap content doesn't sync us down. Everything that is "relevant" have a min ilvl, but not max.

[@choopoopoo]

Wow a 15 minute video you fucking did it xeno

[@DeekerJones]

I appreciate their position on this because they are completely open about it. They have stated, unequivocally, they do not condone the use of 3rd party tools to augment gameplay. They have never backed away from that position, so when they say that it is "your responsibility" I whole heartedly agree, because they have been up front and clear about their stance on the issue. If, given what they have said and the actions they have taken in the past, you still choose to defy them, then it is 100% YOUR fault should you ever get hammered for it. I am not endorsing one side or the other, I honestly don't care, but I will defend Square in their position because it is forthright and they stick to their word. You have to give credit where credit is due.

[@brutalbeautyandthebirds]

They wont do it because he is also a fan of WoW and knows damn well what happened when Raider IO came around simple as that.

[@8bitchiptune420]

And now raider io is officially a part of the game.

[@vc4961]

video was translated by Blluist, super wholesome variety streamers from Japan they also play FFXIV

[@Inariele]

Arthas can tell a whole tale about that topic

[@KyvannShrike]

The thing is though, not only did I find it entertaining, I found it absolutely baffling that there are players who think it's ok to go into **the hardest content in the game** without understanding their job rotations.

[@gusty9053]

World of tanks has the same issue. XVM did this including "predicting win chances" and players would quit a game before it even started based on that. People are assholes in general and if you give them more tools they will be more proficient at it. Sure for top players this could be useful or even essential but for the average online asshole it would serve no purpose.

[@ram89572]

I'll have you know that I'm an extreme asshole. It's kind of a huge part of my personality. I still don't use a damn meter to harass a player with low numbers. It's certainly useful to have that information though

[@sullymoggle7211]

The guy on the right: "Hai Hai" ... "Sooya Sooya"

[@joshuarobinson1689]

I'm dumb, but I still understood it.

[@DKLYF]

How do i get the dps meter he is using 14:33 for reference :)

[@DKLYF]

@@willb6913 yeah what’s the plug-in, my act does not look like that

[@AleXwern]

It's Rainbowmage. I'm using the exact same one and it's pretty nice

[@ravanin]

what's this beberly hills thing?

[@baines803]

"I just want to point out your hentai and pervert shit is safe" Wew i was worried thank god

[@dylanmcla]

All I know is when I was younger and had no idea how to play MMOs I joined my first dungeon in WOW after having fun learning the game and a guy stopped after the first pull and said "Hey your DPS is absolute dogshit" and that's about where my time with the game ended.

[@regnid8186]

thank GOD my computer is safe! LMAO

[@turntapeover5749]

You dont even need ACT. Skip Soar is a perfect example. I was summoner main back then and summoner was locked out of PF because too low dps to skip soar

[@Xilibrius]

Skip soar or disband is why I never messed with Zurvin in HW. I cleared the other ex fights but didn't bother with that

[@fujiwaradev1535]

Imagine trying to brute force a mechanic out day one just because some top 1% raiders did so

[@nasbirhucrescent6032]

@@fujiwaradev1535 Wasnt even bad, just get better dps

[@deefour28]

@@nasbirhucrescent6032 or just do the mechanic it really wasn't that hard

[@Xilibrius]

@@nasbirhucrescent6032 there was a lot about the game I didn't know back in heavensward and wasn't even remotely close to being anywhere near optimal. So I wasn't going to be putting out the dps to skip a mechanic.

[@madlinkers8595]

was solo healing it it was cake you just made excuses not to do it

[@austinsmith8436]

Its seriously out of control with some people I had a clear first week on e1s to e4s and 2nd week had people kicking me from pf for my parse not being high enough after just the first week kinda killed my entire motivation for this whole expansion

[@Shatteredstarful]

Thats basically what they are saying. If they are kicking/punishing people by using the tools the harassment issue is the reportable/punishable item, the ACT is just an additional thing on that.

[@austinsmith8436]

@@Shatteredstarful exactly. Its still frustrating though and no matter what there will always be this kind of thing going on sadly.

[@TheInsaneEraser]

and you could report them, that is AGINST TOS

[@Brandunfriendlyman]

Or you could get ACT, actually see your numbers, understanding that "Wow, I might need to improve", learn the rotation, get better and perform better. Without ACT you have no idea if you are doing things right because you have nothing to compare to. And no, the target dummies doesn't help. That's just a bandaid to a problem they refuse to acknowledge.

[@austinsmith8436]

@@Brandunfriendlyman i do run it and at the time playing bard the difference between a top parse and a gray parse was like 500 dps because it was literally week 2 of the raid not to mention less than 1% actually clear week 1 savage raids

[@LazyVideosGAME]

Just sayin', low DPS can also be a form of harassment. 😆 Jokes aside, I find tools like this quite useful, but coming from a WoW background I know that it will be used as a gatekeeping tool if they don't say anything about it. In my static we used it for the current EX trials, and I have never done EX trials when they were current. Or any at all, outside of Thordans Reign, to be precise. When I looked at the data, I knew where to improve, and my DPS doubled, my overheal got massively reduced and my Raidbuff uptime went through the roof, meaning my Chain Stratagem contribution went from 50k to 150k. I was quite happy about that.

[@sirken2]

I find it interesting they always see the World first clears see EVERYONE using ACT and even using Call outs from ACT to do the raids as well and don't take action against them. That should tell you all you need to know about ACT honestly. As long as it isn't being used to harasses people it is fine. But I could see some people calling out ACt as "cheating" too in hardcore raiding having all the call outs just "given" to you basically acting like a raid leader Also people who decide to push speed runs and enjoy scoring high parses are just a different group of people and not everyone is like that so yes people who are like that look for a certain kind of player with a certain skill ability and will use act to weed people out that are not living up to a group standred for what that group wants to achieve. I got knocked from a raid static I was with for years after they decided to push hard on speed runs and parseing but it wasn't me kind of thing. Nothing wrong with that people do change.

[@CineGoodog]

Yoshi also said: "It is not possible to implement flight in ARR zones"

[@HB-kc2rc]

12:28 I'm dying haha

[@octaffxiv]

This guy is awesome

[@incognita112]

should i run one if im learning to tank? first mmo

[@incognita112]

@Dizzy Gear its what im doing atm, had no problems clearing the arr extreme trials with a friend who is new aswell, was just wondering if it will give me an edge towards improving my ability usage.

[@Borderlinevampire]

@@incognita112 I'm of the mindset that more information is always good so there is no harm in downloading ACT. It's a good tool but you won't get the full benefit until you reach endgame.

[@incognita112]

@@Borderlinevampire ok thanks guys!

[@Androssverse]

I’m on console so the only way that I know how bad or well I’m doing is by checking logs to see if someone was using a calculator during our encounter together lol.

[@Kte_Journey]

Talk that truth Xeno!

[@Deadeye2907]

honestly this has been such a nice relationship for act in ffxiv. no one bothers people because it's technically against tos and you never get banned for it. really happy with how they handle it

[@duo1666]

@@KainsAddiction I mean, its very easy to prove for a lot of people. Either theyll harass someone, proving by proxy and harassment charge ontop, or they make videos/stream, so youre literally providing video evidence. If they really wanted to, they could crack down on it pretty well. They could likely even break ACT on their backend if they wanted to.

[@KhronosTrigger]

No there are people that will try to insult peoples damage numbers. I’m blue on p1s-p2s and green for the rest. But yesterday I called out a sage for not knowing p4s part 1 mechs, he got mad and ended up calling out my damage, even got so salty, he made a PF stating “Don’t be a Sub Par SAM”. I really didn’t care being green for the last half with 591ilvl SAM I figure it’s good enough to clear. There are people with little weewee syndrome so don’t expect it all to be nice.

[@duo1666]

@@KhronosTrigger The shittiest parsed clear is still a clear.

[@duo1666]

​@@KainsAddiction Ah, was assuming it was a different thread, as i was replied to on a D2 video, and was half asleep. You cant be carried by others in a savage or ultimate fight. Even if you parse like ass in them, you still cleared it. The worst parsing ultimate clear is still a top tier player.

[@duo1666]

@@KainsAddiction A grey parse clear is still a clear. You arent allowed enough room to personally mess up and have the fight still be cleared. The worst top tier player is still a top tier player.

[@jamesutter2175]

11:48 I almost died laughing at the truth of this statement in its many forms.

[@gurenlagan1307]

Yoshi P is my idol.

[@Shinobaekun]

Reading out for his viewers because he knows they can't read LOLOLOL

[@apathyreaper5323]

Remember the Arthas incident or the Koki incident? Yep.

[@imPansy]

YoshiP: We don't know what's on your computer, that's private information. *Laughs in China*

[@lightningfarron5631]

"Paladins will never block magic" lol! Dude that is completely out of the topic at hand. XD

[@zZRevoloutionZz]

It was a point made about never getting inbuilt act. Yoshi P went back on one thing (PLD can't block magic but now does), hence can go back on this

[@davidbrooks2872]

Blocking magic doesn't lead to harassment either, but I think Xeno is just having fun

[@joeterrasi2202]

There's already a built-in act in the game at the end of front lines matches it tells you how much damage, damage taken and heals you did.

[@linkshellvendor]

You can't compare it. All gear is equalized in pvp and the abilities aren't the same as pve.

[@IronCladBeliever]

Its built into pvp a place were sizing yourself up against other players is the point.

[@blackjet2000]

Yeah but it's pvp. It counts how many assists, deaths and stuff you have done and shove it into a leaderboard. And that's at the end of a match so people still have no idea how much you are doing aside looking at your Battle High for performance\boost.

[@joeterrasi2202]

It still adds all your damage numbers up it's still a built in act.

[@starlessnox2525]

In short, use ACT only to perfection your own skills.

[@ElPincheDruk]

6:31 it better be, I spent years building that collection.... I mean, what is this hen-thai, food? 8:44 But I don't even say 'hi' to anyone D:

[@realhellzicke3661]

RIP speakers..

[@allstarreject]

What ACT skin is he using @12:31?

[@XenosysVex]

rainbowmage

[@allstarreject]

@@XenosysVex Thanks, I appreciate it. Watched this vid today and have been trying to figure out how to get it setup. I'll come checkout and sub to the stream.

[@Kat1kafka]

What is act?

[@klausjackklaus]

I can see where they are coming from, as in WoW all the 3rd party tools are used to compare how someone is decent enough for the group because the wow token has led to people purchasing carries with real money. I do feel it's fine to use it to track overhealing and dps for mechanics wise in relevant content, but I like a statement as "you cannot mention any dps/hps numbers in in-game chat, and if you are found to be harassing someone on other platforms (such as twitch/youtube/reddit) pertaining to these numbers you are liable for account suspension/termination"

[@blubblubwhat]

we heard it here first yoshi p only needs one hand to play;)

[@ShojiKareza]

i mean, the team did ban Xeno on harrassing on DPS on twitch :P

[@bobbi477]

From how this guy acts, they should have made it permanent.

[@BjorkensteinvanJurgenheim]

Came for the yelling bald man, stayed for the yelling bald man

[@Furcas]

First rule of fight club.

[@Vidyagameenjoyer]

Built in DPS meter = Party Emnity list, for DPS at least since the aggro dumps were removed and aggro became a joke.

[@obe22099]

I keep my frustration about underperforming people to myself. I'm a chronic deep inhaler followed by a deep extremely audible exhale. Sometims i pinch my brow or hold my head out of concern my head will implode or explode.

[@TerryVideoZone]

It can definitely feel frustrating at times when other people aren't progressing at the same speed as others, especially in more difficult fights. I just always try to keep in mind that everyone has their own learning method, and their own pace. Patience and practice will ultimately lead to consistency!

[@JJEMTT]

I have REALLY good headphones and holy fuck 14:06 you have a really good fucking MIC...