Is Final Fantasy XIV Combat too SLOW? Xeno Explains How to Weave oGCD Skills

Xeno goes over people's complaints about the Final Fantasy XIV combat being slow and clunky and explains why in reality the combat is smooth and hard to master. He also shows how to properly use oGCD (off global cooldown skills) so you don't clip and mess up your rotation.
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[@Creedlane]

I'm rewatching these post streams just to appreciate that Xeno got an editor.

[@TheZifrit]

saaame

[@Lunar_Yojimbo]

He is the man 👍

[@sequences8942]

"Game is slow" -Machinist when they play other jobs

[@sage595]

Also Monk mains.

[@meissen1337]

I used to main mch but tried tanking and other jobs for Promise, and can confirm that gnb and drk are not slow whatsoever, to be fair if it’s any faster it might have me scratching my head when mechanics/tbs line up with bursts

[@jackadam9348]

Machinist gameplay is not that fast. I usually play it at 120 action per minute, it is slow compare to starcraft pros of 300 actions per minute.

[@divaluxe_]

@@jackadam9348 apples and oranges dear

[@cookiebaker2660]

From my experience MCH is fast but simple. You just have a phase where you press like 3 buttons quickly over and over again, but then its back to ~2.4 GCD. Very easy resource and long cd management too. No RNG bs. Being a ranged class it makes dodging AoEs and planning movement in general way easier. Your speed as MCH is basically offset by how braindead easy and reliable the "handling" is.

[@karlklein2263]

Ok but hiring an editor is like the best thing for this guy.

[@jopet216]

I know. Both twitch and KZbin. Well deserved imo

[@mauriciocuatrobolas9306]

In the begining the GCD feels heavily slow, but when you do higher level bosses you pray for a pause.

[@prawn1717]

Exactly this. Though it is somewhat job dependent, most jobs past 70 flow extremely well and you'll take solace in the time between pulls.

[@RhadaGhast100]

@@prawn1717 Yeah me not knowing this until I was told at max level I think is what costed me my raid spot. I'm a slow learner and once I pick up a habbit it's hard to drop it, so when I was benched from raid because I wasn't learning at the same pace as the rest of the group I just ended up quiting the game.

[@prawn1717]

@@RhadaGhast100 Whew yeah that can be rough. I've got ADHD, and it can both help in certain fights and be a nightmare in others. There were some nights where I would mess up so consistently for 3 hours straight and that was painful, but it ended up being worth it. I hope if you ever decide to come back to the game you're able to find a more accommodating static!

[@bernardo879]

lol u clearly never played a fast paced combat if u think ffxiv has a fast and not boring combat system

[@enesozgun7519]

This is the actual problem of ff14 players. I quit the game around 52 lvl i think. I played more than 200 hours and mostly play summoner healer because other classes feels so slow on low lvl. Healer not fast too but doing something just clicking buttons :D raids are fine and actually having fun with them but not classes. You are constantly telling arguments on 70lvls but new players not come 70lvl in one day, it's a very long journey. So you get bored because leveling not fun. They can do special things for just leveling 1-50 level period. 2.5 seconds gcd just a pain in the ass if you are 20 lvl. You people just ignoring the fact leveling also need to be fun. I quit the game because i dont have the money to play, not because i bored. I living on a country a very bad economy. So im not ff14 hater. I also not playing wow anymore ( i played fury warrior, one of the fastest class on wow), i playing lost ark because it's free and fun

[@freakindamnshiki]

Xeno is stepping up his YT game, nice nice

[@qbee3642]

A real KZbinr would've zoomed in on the hotbar at the intro hook. I couldn't really grasp what he was saying because I was just looking at his character animations.

[@InvictusRed1911]

"Combat is Slow" Me: *Cries in Piano Summoner for the past 3 expansions*

[@MrCmagik]

well... there is that 20s (relaxing) period of ruin spam that is slow.. and quite convenient sometime XD In ucob I have that downtime right before Nael's dragon dive, like, I don't even have to think about the time it's just "ruin ruin ruin ... oh dive are coming, let's see.... "

[@icipher6730]

Piano Summoner Synth Black Mage Drumkit Ninja

[@Altmer353]

@@icipher6730 positional and up time hell that is monk

[@bigbay1159]

@@icipher6730 Bass Rift monk?

[@SirMcLowen]

lol at least you get major overhaul this endwalker

[@KrazyBean14]

Getting an editor is probably one of the best decisions he's made. Xeno always has the knowledge, but his prior videos were frankly too long. Now that is sorted.

[@taepoppuriGaming]

So happy to see an edited version of this! Straight to the point and easy to understand for new players. Kudos 👍

[@pointdowguy9359]

This is really nice, having xeno wisdom in more bite-sized videos is awesome

[@tsundenana]

this video was really insightful as someone who has been playing a while but has yet to go into extreme+ content yet. the bit about slotting your ogcds into either "1st slot" or "2nd slot" was really helpful as i had never really given it much thought before

[@Vekysus]

Just tried to follow the double weaving strat and that helped a lot with my DRK! thank you!

[@Sairagna]

"now depending on your ping.." *cries in Australian*

[@luizfilipesibinel199]

Try playing from Brazil :(

[@CodyGamerX]

Such a great fucking video, loved the zoom-in cuz it helped a lot to see the exact points for the weave, thank you for this!

[@DMWScorpian]

The fleche in a red mage pot window is a first ogcd, so that you can get a second one in at the end of the window under the buff. This is a rare case, but they do exist.

[@borderbass8177]

So glad to see these edited vids on Xeno's yt. I don't get much time to play these days but watching your streams back in HW helped me get into raiding and made me such a better player. Looking forward to seeing more like this!

[@kyoai]

I think the issue is that the early game combat is extremely slow and monotonous, with people then quitting before getting to the point where it beings to become half-way interesting. Just take a look at the first dungeon, Sastasha. You maybe have 2 skills to use. No way to be creative, in most cases no OGCDs. And if your gameplay is not interesting in the first dungeon, chances are many people will leave, because they'll assume that it'll stay the same for the rest of the game.

[@tiredguy2753]

This so much. There is no question that late game it gets better but it is agony in the early levels where everything is on cd and since you have no other abilities you just sit there auto attacking asking yourself why am I playing this game ?

[@Megaphy]

Yo Xeno's edtior. You're the real g man.

[@themorbidkid187]

Loving the chopped up videos in smaller segments. Keep up the great content man!

[@Awokenify]

What is this? An edited highlight from a Xeno stream? Has the day truly come? Praise it!

[@Fndlord]

XEMO! Amazing Videos man! I'm so happy you've got an editor now :)

[@ArikaStack]

You know, I've only played about 10 hours of FF before putting it down for now, but it's NOT because of the combat being slow, even if it can be annoying at times. I mean it's slow compared to PSO, but anyway. The reason I did put FF down is because I'm not emotionally capable of getting invested and caring about the story right now, and I want to wait until I can actually appreciate it.

[@mcihay246]

That's actually a very fair response. Nice.

[@bernardo879]

the combat never gets better its a slow mess and the pvp god the pvp sucks and its almost inexistent, but the story is really good thats the only reason I played, picked rogue/ninja for stealth soo I would fight as little as possible

[@austenmoydell4357]

Oh thanks for this! I've been playing this game for eons and I never thought that hard about using certain ogcds at the tail end of the gcd! (I don't do savage ex stuff so hasn't been "necessary") Good stuff!

[@emonymousemo5342]

Yeah man. When he explain why certain oGCD need to be in the 2nd weave because the GCD will go up just by that time and we won't miss a oGCD effect early, that was like big brain time for me. Thanks xeno!

[@CrispyRaha]

Loving the KZbin activity again. Keep it up man!

[@Kheirongale]

Xenos, you sir are a bliss. You helped realized the mistake that was making my rotations missed the last GCD. For that you can take my sub.

[@bigbigu8671]

Nice edited version, ty for the tips and great stream

[@rhirune]

11:44 Every WAR when they miss a Fell Cleave.

[@sapasaja1640]

problem is leveling up you dont really need to use proper rotations, or knows your class very well. the difficulty will significantly risen after you hit max level and then need to properly know your class to be effective

[@RhadaGhast100]

Yeah, I quit the game because of that honestly. My raiding guild that quit in wow and came here never mentioned anything about it, so when I started raiding, I was doing really poorly, eventually got benched cause I wasn't improving very quickly and I just went back to wow after like 4-5 months of playing XIV. I guess I'm not a good enough player as I thought I was.

[@eightbitheros]

Loving the new videos dude, good shout on getting an editor

[@lockekappa500]

I love how a 20min video is a "short" Xeno video, gotta love it.

[@123pirules]

Xeno my man you are gonna blow up with this style of videos im sure of, glad to know i was here since Heavensward. You rock!

[@lyconxero457]

God bless whatever editor is bringing the good word of Xeno to the masses via these condensed videos.

[@yuyutaizezetai7079]

I recently realized I should save requiscat till second half of gcd to give me a bit more time to make sure I can finish with confi. That one extra second can make a ton of difference. And it feels bad when magic phase ends just before you can press it. For a while I was genuinely wondering if I needed some spell speed cause I was missing it so often. Lol. But some time on the training dummies made me realize the gcd timing. Btw I'm basically a crafter main and part time paladin.

[@kamaha0010]

Okay. Bell icon clicked again. Lets see if you keep up the good editing Mr. Editor.

[@SlimShady-hk8qp]

Says its not slow.. proceeds to drop the slowest combat demo since WoW

[@celesticer9949]

*Subscribed* Thank you for the clear explanation

[@Primordias95]

Amazing! Thanks xenos for chopping your chonccs of Videos

[@roadrunne255]

Damn. The 1st 20 seconds was sooo smooth, actually hyped me up for the video.

[@veliona8920]

"Combat is too slow." -Trial that never made it past level 15

[@romdog1818]

Well maybe the problem is the slow ass early game then -Trial player who is now a lvl70 standard sub, who also thought the combat was mind numbingly boring for the first 30ish levels. It doesn't help that the game gives you a large exp boost, but still puts your ass back to the more boring levels thanks to the slow crawl that is ARR MSQ progression. And people say ARR MSQ was trimmed? Well shit, not enough apparently lol.

[@jmarshall3150]

Well I tried this game as trial and nearly hit 30 but the game felt awful and slow. I had to stop. I don't like the feeling of forcing myself to play something and that's what this game was for me.

[@StarShadow9009]

@@romdog1818 i personally like the slow start as it gets you nice and familiar with the class. It gives you time to think about what you are doing when you are new and once you are used to it. It really ramps up. Especially on dps.

[@romdog1818]

@@saikoserum8938 Well I would rather them tweak the content so it's fun instead of shaving off MSQs. As it is too many of the MSQ instances are just simply not engaging enough, which is WHY people complain, cuz y'know... Why would anyone complain about the game being too long if the content is actually good? Bringing down core class abilities so that you get them way sooner and not at Lv60-70 while also dialing up the frequency of mechanics in fights (like they do in StormBlood) could ONLY be a good thing for the early game.

[@kleberson777]

i mean did you guys expect your character became a Kungfu Master in a lower level? Of course your character became smoother the higher your level.

[@GuyinTime]

Your editor is great man holy cow

[@ahmednassif5044]

What a great video thank you for all the hard work you are putting in good work my dude and i hooe you make great success mr strummer!

[@jopet216]

Dude. You are blowing up!!! Well deserved

[@sergejregula7638]

Im glad i found this video, so he could explain to me when to use blood weapon, i assume my tanking dps will be higher now, thank you heavily bearded man!

[@edumont88]

Drk started kinda slow when I switched from warrior but after hitting lvl 64-68 when you get key traits/abilities that help with mp regen or blood meter it REALLY picks up and there's almost always an ability for me to use.

[@zanido9073]

Even with ogcds most jobs play very slow. The only job that I would say is "fast" is Monk, although it's slower in Endwalker than it used to be.

[@itsLevelChecker]

Your editor is great, great idea hiring one man!

[@alexandrezolla4959]

Nice video!

[@mooxart64]

I can see you got a new editor, nice.

[@kday42]

Editing is magic!

[@banriswirl6414]

My man finally got an editor. Nice

[@DemeitriHitokiri]

dude immaculate break down and explanation of gcds thanks!

[@algame3]

I need a guide like this for monk

[@furbyoats1]

Dude these edited videos are fucking fantastic.

[@TheZifrit]

yoyoyo, glad to see the editor buissiness became a thing, this is nice man. gj guys

[@slaybial1]

Okay that's makes sense. I get it, it's not an action combo game. Damn I was hoping it would be

[@brohogany9920]

I don't think the combat is slow, clunky, or easy bur I still think it's not very fun or impactful. It's just personal preference really. For me it lacks weight and reaction. There isn't really much audio visual feedback when you hit an enemy. It feels like you're throwing and attack and more like you're performing elaborate dance moves which trigger a large flash of special effects. For some jobs like spell casters it's not too big a deal but when I'm playing a tank I don't get the sense that I'm swinging and axe at something.

[@3Ebo3]

i ditched final fantasy while leveling like 5 times, cause its feels so slow. tried monk(?) and mage at that times. i was so bored while questing, and i rly tried to keep playing and make it so max lvl, but no a chance. watching this video i might give it another shot edit: last played ff14 in 2019

[@HotRefuse]

I was playing SAM without weaving and I didn't find out I was playing it wrong till I tried stone sky sea. I screwed up my muscle memory and if I want to use SAM I'll have to spend time working on it.

[@Cahrub]

When I first switched from WoW to FF14, I found it weird that people complained about the 2.5s GCD. I thought "well, then obviously that means there's gonna be a ton of other things to do in-between that 2.5s window". I end up mashing way more buttons in FF14 than I ever did in WoW (also take into consideration that you use the majority of your abilities in FF14 as opposed to WoW where you can optimize a class to mashing literally one button. So, a combination of 15+ GCD and oGCD abilities with a 2.5 GCD versus mashing 2 to 3 buttons with a 1s GCD).

[@RhadaGhast100]

Yeah, I wished I learned that sooner, picked up MCH, my guild in wow suggested it when they came over, though no one told me about weaving, I didn't know I was playing my class incorrectly so when I got to max level I was preforming really poorly, constant grey and green parces, low dps. I eventually got benched cause I was being to slow with learning, eventually just quit after 5 months and went back to wow. Thought about giving the game another go but, I'm not sure.

[@MsZeroElements]

The main thing I had a problem with is that, I know all the off gcd skills are at endgame, it took me a month to casually finish ARR and every single skill was on gcd, after I got to spec into dragoon I gotten two skills off of gcd but that's just still two hard CDs. It's just as new player the heavy slug of leveling with everything on gcd just fucking blows. I am going to give it a chance again in a couple weeks and yes I am a wow player that mainly plays rated arenas and battlegrounds where u can literally die in a single gcd, the stat squish in wow made it really enjoyable to lvl and see what your class is/does

[@darkmirror21]

"for every one gcd, i'm hitting two off gcd" *cries on single weaving while waiting on oce servers*

[@NessieNice]

:')

[@Emuney12]

The people who say the combat is slow are most likely the ones who never made it out of ARR. Even jobs at lvl 50 don't have alot of oGCDs

[@ericjones5290]

I’ve mained SMN since the game relaunched and some parts are slower than others, but I’ll never give up on SMN no matter how many nerfs they throw my way

[@ericjones5290]

@@semiramisubw4864 yeah but we’ve been nerfed almost as much as the BLM

[@seto108]

and now you smn become a REAL smn and not dot mage

[@gillsejusbates6938]

after reaching lvl 70 on gunbreaker i dont think the combat is slow anymore, however all the GCDs and oGCDs do feel rather clunky, like you are playing on 100-200 ping

[@edalyerhis3136]

Then you're probably using things in the wrong order.

[@ashash8026]

arthas one of the most harshest ff14 complainer , plays all datacenter from NA to EU to Asia and doesn't complain about "Clunky" for this game cuz u don't know how to proper play the class in the hard content or don't know how to do full rotation. It will take practice .

[@plac1197]

Doesn't feel clunky at all to me. I'm a WoW vet/refugee. FFXIV has combat that is almost as smooth as WoW was in MoP. If WoW is 10/10 in terms of smoothness, FFXIV is easily a 9/10. And that's just the feel of rotations and ability use. After playing FFXIV for a couple years now, I prefer 90% of the stuff in this game to WoW. FFXIV is just better imo.

[@godsplayingfield]

I play scholar, dark knight and dancer. The “slowest” is scholar when I don’t have to worry about healing or mitigating the “feck you” move the boss is about to do. But when I have to actively start healing due to the bosses damage phase, shit gets real. With the regents, the shields, the sacred soil then managing my fairy etc Dark knight has a lot of stuff it can do. It has a basic 1-2-3 but ideally you wanna put in a bunch of off global, like the edge or flood of shadow to boost damage, salted earth or the AoE heal, Athena you have the blood gauge attacks as well as lunge etc Dancer is… well dancer. You are constantly using different attacks, moving around to use aoe’s fan attacks etc saying any dps is slow is kinda dumb really. In essence, the game is as slow as you are and s fast as you wanna make it.

[@Lunar_Yojimbo]

👍 I agree with you 100%

[@AdrasAdraki]

Getting an editor was such a big buff to your content kekw.

[@darkpenguins9594]

when you dont play other mmos so u dont know how slow and clunky the combat is...

[@hmaerblood]

Yo Asmon I love your content

[@PaulSmith-fd2gy]

Well i played wow for over ten years and i think FF combat is fine but u have to keep in mind in wow these guys can pretty much macro their whole burst rotations they not used to more than 3 buttons

[@TheFurrLord]

@@k.vn.k they are not recommended because macros do not spell queue like normal skills, and they can only do wait in whole numbers for cast sequence macros. You will pretty much always clip in cast sequence stuff. The only macros for combat that get a pass are target oriented macros like mouse over, self target for ground abilities like salted earth, and party number specific ones like card cast macros or party specific dragon sight macros.

[@seto108]

btw macro doesnt work for bard….. why? because proc is random

[@henriquerodrigues7795]

I think my only issue with the game so far(I'm relatively new, started 6 months ago) is how much my ping affects my rotation, so sometimes the game does feel clunky for me. Even then, so far I've only had real issues with 3 jobs: DRK, i can't double weave with the necessary gcd to fit 5 hits into blood weapon, I clip Everytime. MCH, I clip every single time I hit an ogcd after Heat Blast, which means I can only use 2 gauss/ricochet during ?overcharge? or I lose the 5th heat blast. And NIN, ninjutsus casts are 1.5 so I always clip after it, much like MCH, it feels especially bad with Assassinate and Ten Chi Jin, both of these clip really hard, the worst part really is i can't fit everything into trick attack on opener and every 120 secs. I just stay away from those 3, though i love NIN, wish I could play it more reliably. I really enjoy the game and the combat, even more than wow, mostly because the job rotations are way more fun and interesting.

[@n8doggy733]

for me it isnt that the combat is necessarily too slow, my issue is that it is more lik a puzzle or a minigame than an actual combat system

[@brohogany9920]

Kind of get what you mean. Feels like I'm completing a dance routine and not fighting an enemy

[@Heykutaap]

As someone who is playing the free trial, i also thought the combat was slow As F#$*. BUT thats also because of having only a few actions at lvl 20. Guess ima keep trying and see if i can reach end game, cuz this video makes it so cool and make much more sense.

[@CrooKdLetterJ]

Feels like a game i played called aion most mmos start off slow until you get your kit.

[@user-pl5pb1vk4n]

Pog Xeno got an Editor

[@Berguna645]

nice explanation, imagine playing as Monk. nightmare, i have love and hate relationship with my main monk

[@jf4156]

someone saying XIV is slow just instantly tells you that they got filtered because the speed picks up so much after 50.

[@Bilbologna]

I played MNK level 80 with 4 grease lightning stacks and personally for me it’s too slow after playing WoW. Off-globals just aren’t enough to compensate for a GCD that is halved. I still love FF but yea the gameplay to me is slow. WoW isn’t devoid of off-globals, CC’s, interrupts, AoE dodging, mechanics… The Off-global in FF are in the opener and periodic throughout. The majority of time you’re spending mashing a skill waiting for the GCD to catch up. It just feels like a remnant of FFXI but being a pure action RPG I just don’t see the point. I think FFXIV is great but could be much better with a shorter GCD.

[@Ikohyu]

@@Bilbologna What kind of content have you done? I mean being lvl 80 doesn't say much if you hit normals/dungeons and dummies. I never found myself "waiting" for my next GCD to come up in savage and ultimates. Then again I didn't like WoW GCD either not because of its lower GCD but because basicly everything looks the same and I don't feel the "impact" in any of the GCD.

[@CWFDSmokeEater]

@@Bilbologna ff wouldn't be ff with a shorter gcd lol

[@anavelmacko4370]

Stop hitting target dummies and go into some real endgame content

[@ilmalefico8431]

The point is always the same you can’t use “oh the real combat is at high levels” as excuse every time, some jobs are ok some are not, and it doesn’t matter if you can weave or double weave cause not all the time ogcd are available

[@RMeitzen]

needing 20 min to explain why a game isn't clunky seems strangely ironic

[@esmolol4091]

As a table tennis player... this game feels, as swimming inside of mud. 2.5 seconds feel like an eternitx to me.

[@pipz420]

FF14 Combat is simon says. You hit your buttons in the right order = win. Scales up extremely slow as you level. Not strategic and you rarely have a chance to die. FF11 had strategic combat because things were random and you had to react to what was going on. I have done everything in both games and quit. I now play embers adrift for the combat of 11 but the QoL of FF14. I like being able to target a monster and an npc at the same time in embers. I don't have to wait 100s of hours to start endgame when in embers endgame starts at level 1. Its new tho so not 10+ years of content but I have been enjoying myself more than I have with a game in a long time.

[@UltrosFF6]

Second comment by the way. You are my favorite strumer. The only person I am subscribed to on Twitch. Nova and I are simped to the same person 😂.

[@kaischulz5717]

Wich class would u recommend me? I completely freshnin ff14 but want a class with really fun combat. That's means combos, procs if possible

[@kerwynbrat5771]

I think one of the biggest problems for new players to the game is that unlike WoW, there just isn't the information available. I play wow, but love my black mage. I had ZERO concept of off gcd management because nothing told me or taught me this. I searched so hard for information because I knew I was doing something wrong, but couldn't figure it out. Finally a super nice player was watching me beat on a training dummy, dropping my evo (facepalm) every time I tried to move or do any mechanic (cause ya tired of dying in raid). They whispered me hey can I give you some suggestions, and I was like OH GOD YES. They pointed me to a few sites, but they are written for the player who already knows what is going on so it was like greek to me. NOW I understand but helpful vids and information would be incredibly helpful for those of us trying to learn. I'm still working hard to fit in all the weaves and slidecasts ALL of which are so alien to me. Please be gentle on those of us who really really want to learn!

[@pingtrip77]

hey thanks for your input. would b great if you could post the links to the resources for us all struggling w the ogcd and weaving that u benefited from. I’m black mage as well and dont know if im on the right track.

[@holgualoxford3871]

Im not to 80 yet, in the 50-70 levels on several jobs. I dont find the combat slow as I enjoy doing more than just 100% button mashing. Getting some oGCD going on SAM and NIN now. Not very many on DRK so far. My main issue has nothing to do with fast or slow and more to do with setting up my keyboard to better fit the combos vs oGCD sections and getting some muscle memory down. Going to need far more keybinds than in WoW / Rift / EQ that I have played in the past. Or Ill be mouse buttoning too much hehe.

[@valravn6777]

Idk whenever I watch someone play FFXIV I can clearly see them pressing the next button in rotation a couple times like a 0.7 seconds before gcd comes in pm always. Same from personal experience even with the jobs that are supposed to be high apm like nin or brd. And people saying you need to get to level 40-50 for combat to start to feel decent like... that's not a good argument, that's an admission that it sucks.

[@din0chickennuggets]

oh shit you got an editor

[@TheGunz0001]

Just refer them to Teamcraft. From there we can benchmark and improve our own performance, on our own playstyle n latency. We can't have a serious discussion on whether the combat is too fast or slow if there is no benchmark and everyone is referencing their own playstyle. Also good job editor!

[@user-gt2vc3qf3l]

AND EDITOR AND NO MORE 2-3 HOUR VIDS? LET'S FUCKING GO

[@theredwedge9446]

I wish I could enjoy playing this game because it has really interesting mechanics, the story seems good from what I managed to figured out however.... I didnt really like remembering just a long combo for fighting... it wasnt that enjoyable for me. I am happy that others do like this game. I believe I had gotten to lv 43 bard and then I also tried out the white mage, something about a blood bomb was interesting; so I am not just talking out of my ass.

[@tacozilla1351]

Wow that’s pretty much where I stopped lol. Lvl43 free trial. Played dragoon and bard but the combat felt extremely slow and unengaging. Tried watching this but tbh both the “slow” and the “fast” look the same.

[@mcflynnsreturn]

I'm glad I tried a different class but fuck me early casters feel so bad. And some of the other classes go the other way and get complicated quick. I'm loving the game but pacing feels all over the place pre 50 anyway . Now the kits do make each class feel very different and I like that, just some early tuning issues, and most of the awkward levels go quick so far it seems. Just a returning (still basically new) player's perspective

[@zanagi]

I knew this from asmon stream, damn you're savage 🤟

[@Noone-pf8sb]

Did you get the dudes at Work2Game to thumbnail for you XD or was it the youtubez that made you do it?

[@revoktorment440]

What turns me off the most about the game is the role lock for jobs. I like questing with Pld and Drk but then I can't just do this. I have to tank dungeons and raids in order to progress thru the story and I can't really since I haven't done them and sometimes you want to just learn the thing before you lead a group in it. Also, smn used to be cool... I don't know why they changed it like that. Yes, I'm a returning player

[@aiellamori]

That's the most fun thing though, going in blind to a duty and learning it as you go. You aren't at fault for failing if you don't know what's going to happen

[@windack768]

"Combat is slow" Me (a new player) playing a summoner, panicking and spamming Ruin 2 while trying to avoid stuff

[@windack768]

​@@k.vn.k yeah, I know what lies before me. Its not even the rotation that gets me tho. Beginning of fights and openers I can do just fine, its all the aoe stuff the further the battle goes on that gets me jumping around like and idiot. Its fun though, and I feel with enough time and knowing mechanics of bosses it will be just fiiine...

[@bophadesknutz7798]

​@@k.vn.k You're kinda making summoner sound more complicated than it really is. Majority of your time as SMN is just pressing ruin 3, and when youre in a phase, 2 buttons + an ogcd every 10 seconds. Best and free overall movement of all the casters.

[@seto108]

@@bophadesknutz7798 and now you ARE real smn and not dot mage

[@kimbonono1962]

Dont get me wrong, i like the game, but when i talk about combat feeling clunky its about the ”lag” not the pace. It feels weird because when i hit a button in wow i get that instant damage while in ff14 it feels like it takes some time for the numbers to pop on the screen.. same with mechanics, the damage gets calculated when the boss finishes the cast, not when the animation hits. dont know maybe its something to get used to, but i would lie if i said its been smooth sailing coming over from wow’s combat to this. Again. I still like the game.

[@tsukigann2236]

You'll get used to that. I don't know where you live but it was worse for european players at ARR because our data center were in US, lot more lags. It's the same for australian players (they'll get their own data center for Endwalker). It's a habit, at high level you just know the attack is ready by the end of the cast and not the animation. But I understand, a friend of mine comes from wow and made the same remark. For me it's just normal now.

[@bernardo879]

the game is nice but the combat is terrible and this whiteknights trying to argue it being good is a joke

[@BhargavaMan]

These are great

[@Karnicide]

Xeno how did you get your builder bar as a bar next to your HP and MP?

[@autlos7751]

Editing HUD layout most likely

[@Wkenbkejake]

Xeems out here tellin it how it is.

[@Zachthe504]

How do you check your ping on console?

[@castell1301]

Nice new intro. The neckbeard is in the house

[@risu-shin8464]

How do you know how much ping you in have FF?