I'll use this pinned comment to answer a few common questions I noticed. Q: Now that Oberon is released, will you update this Tierlist? A: Short answer: No. Long Answer: While simple at first glance, Oberon is a complicated addition to the Support roster, as he can actually help out in every System to date and not just Buster. You can watch the Pretender System vid I made to get an idea of how he achieved this. As such, his usage should only be judged on a case by case basis. Edit: I lied. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn-XhouCo8ibmpY Q: What if I don't have MLB Kscope? A: No problem at all for High tier and most of Standard tier. You can use Plugsuit + 50% Charger to replace MLB Kscope as long as your DPS has a 50% Battery with 6T cooldown or less. However, this means that BB Summer cannot use this method, as she's the only one with a 7T cooldown on her Battery. Same for Avicebron, though he can use a non MLB Kscope + Plugsuit + 50% Charger instead. In Emiya case, the 50% Charger also needs to be Castoria. Q: Can I use Mana Load Append skill in case I only have non MLB Kscope? A: Yes, you can. However, the caveat is that you'll lose a huge chunk of your Atk compared to using a MLB Kscope, and the fact that unlocking even 1 Append skill is not exactly an easy task. You need at least NP1 and Bond 6 or at least NP2 of a SSR to get enough coins to unlock 1 Append skill. Still, it is definitely the easier option than getting a MLB Kscope. Q: Why did you rank Arjuna Alter so low? A: Forcing the use of Plugsuit automatically deducts point from a Servant for me. You should know this by now from watching the other 2 Tierlists. His damage is truly disgusting though. Q: Why did you put Space Ishtar in Standard when she can do the same thing as Emiya? A: Because you really shouldn't be using Space Ishtar for this in the first place. Where is your Castoria? I'll update this if I notice any other good questions from time to time. No promise though.
@MaybeRay3 жыл бұрын
"Where is your Castoria?" Luck E people : ...
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
Spishthar still reaps better results in castoria setups after all
@markeb13123 жыл бұрын
what is the viability of using kscope+20npstart charge or mlb scope for tama vitch in order to use 10%charge from her NP? I would like to know if this is viable in a way for any servant at all as it can basically serve as 20% charge if both tamas NP
@xNaya3 жыл бұрын
@MarkeB Too much effort for little return
@gibbygibbstein78583 жыл бұрын
@@saltminer7711 smells like arts copium to me
@griffgraffjammyjam11423 жыл бұрын
The phrase "Arjuna Alter Buster Looping" should strike terror into the hearts of CQ level designers
@gamerwim90953 жыл бұрын
Remember that people already learned how to solo foreigner enemies in saber wars 2 (first event) with arjuna.
@Ka-nd5lh2 жыл бұрын
can't they just make the enemies debuff imune
@gibbygibbstein78582 жыл бұрын
@@Ka-nd5lh They could but most bosses in cqs don't just start off with a buff on turn 1, they usually gain buffs after a break bar which by that point it wouldn't matter because he'd already have a debuff on them anyways
@SoccYT2 жыл бұрын
@@Ka-nd5lh wouldnt that just make him effectively useless? his main gimmick is dealing high damage to rebuffed damage so why nerf that?
@Ka-nd5lh2 жыл бұрын
@@SoccYT nah i just said it as one of the ways they could possibly avoid AA just nuking the cq without any trouble
@sonic59933 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how the OG Knight trio (even if Cu is in a different class) are top loopers now. We've come full circle.
@roique38093 жыл бұрын
Finally all the buffs EMIYA and Artoria stacked for those 6 years pay off. And Cu just out there getting a new random buff in LB6 and suddenly top tier looper
@otakuop22462 жыл бұрын
Even Gilgamesh
@DeIanB863 жыл бұрын
The Meta: changes Space Ishtar: "I am inevitable...gogogogogo"
@clionelascendant83053 жыл бұрын
Va a salir en el servidor NA o en el JP?
@rayzhang75913 жыл бұрын
Tbh arts is still meta. Rip quick though.
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
@@clionelascendant8305 koyanskaya en jp, en NA todavia no sale ni space ishtar pq aun no llegamos a saber wars 2.
@DeIanB863 жыл бұрын
@@clionelascendant8305 both, in due time, 6th ani.
@thejudge17283 жыл бұрын
@@rayzhang7591 Quick usually has lower requirements for looping, ironically enough. Good Quick loopers can work with regular KScope and MA MC, whereas pretty much anyone with Koyanskaya needs MLBScope. So I wouldn't really frame this as a loss for DSS. The real loss for it was when Castoria came, anyway.
@jeddsh59563 жыл бұрын
nuttiest thing is probably AA being able to stack his anti evil skill anyway thanks for the video man
@jonathandwilliams28853 жыл бұрын
Honestly just because of that helping his damage, I might want to use him as my primary looper when Koya comes to NA, even at NP1. Drake, BB, and Saber are the only other 5 star options I have currently, and he's far above them in damage.
@steffy23 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandwilliams2885 the best part is that he works against pretty much everyone. You only need 1 working looping setup and you're covered for almost everything
@sahilm4833 жыл бұрын
@@steffy2 I use Merlin not loop but consistent enough
@aditadits54522 жыл бұрын
@@sahilm483 lol just grab waver at free ssr
@royd2092 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandwilliams2885 saber outdamages on class advantage nodes, her buffs are rivalling AA's in pure damage
@alaaeddine35133 жыл бұрын
Godjuna staking his first skill two times in the third turn though is not a joke at all
@TheMarth173 жыл бұрын
Its actually insane. For nodes with a very high hp on the last wave its just so good. I saw this set up with a np 5 godjuna. He does 500 k dmg per enemy on that last wave.
@alaaeddine35133 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarth17 Yes I know it's just freaking ridiculous
@svenkleinplarre94613 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would see the day in which Cu caster would become an S tier.
@KuroDokueki3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT!?
@jonathandwilliams28853 жыл бұрын
Kintoki, Moriarty, and Sanzang can also use this system in single target as potential boss killers. Sanzang can even do plugsuit Merlin for big turn 3 crits. Kintoki and Moriarty can do a 50% starting NP CE.
@VivianKurayami3 жыл бұрын
This. Kintoki in particular can do 1/1/2 nodes (NP wave 3 followed up by Buster crits).
@guilhemesantos65853 жыл бұрын
A Sanzang with 20% starting np + atlas mc + mlb black grail = 3t turn of absolute destruction (though she does have to get 20% refund somehow on turn 2)
@biribirilove3 жыл бұрын
Circe should also be able pull this off with any CE thanks to her 120% NP battery. More importantly, that's 3 turns to potentially pigify the enemy.
@ZuraJura3 жыл бұрын
That may be but you see AA can stack anti evil buff twice which pretty much kill everything
@drekaelric2320 Жыл бұрын
With the 3 support list this it's not an issue anymore
@messengerfrom03 жыл бұрын
Getting a double stack of godjuna's s1 on wave 3 is absolutely disgusting
@Zeon0813 жыл бұрын
does effect actually stack? he deals 100% more damage on debuffed enemies?
@alijaafar2743 жыл бұрын
@@Zeon081 yes. He may need a plug suit to work, but his damage in most cases will be absolutely nasty
@agearmaster13 жыл бұрын
@@Zeon081 yes
@glebscheglov92913 жыл бұрын
Actually, with plugsuit oberon you can get double s1 on wave 2. And that's a different perspective for sure. Uhh, if I still will be playing fgo two years later - my np 4 godjuna finally pays off.
@greg71523 жыл бұрын
You could also run atlas and use his s1 twice on turn 1
@yokuutsu90973 жыл бұрын
The fact that a character that we had since the beginning syncs well with her is incredible.
@kingcobra28583 жыл бұрын
Artoria and Emiya is expected but I didnt even know Cu caster would benefit so much from her. XD
@4orinrin Жыл бұрын
@@kingcobra2858 it’s the insane buff that he got in lb6 fr
@kingcobra2858 Жыл бұрын
@@4orinrin yeah, and because the jp spoilers made sense. Still a surprise tho.
@michi6486 Жыл бұрын
The weird irony is that Caster cu is on neutral Damage better than even Morgan on NP1. Morgan does less than 100k damage if her mods don´t prog whereas cu does with a non MLB black Gral around 110k neutral damage on wave 3..... as a 3*
@elusiveshadow5848 Жыл бұрын
@@michi6486 don't underestimate lower rarity servants, prior to AltJuna's release, the best berserker was a bronze one. And the highest aoe damage dealing Archer is still a 1star one
@Kiryuuin_3 жыл бұрын
"I don't have tesla" excuse me, what? I thought you had every servant in the game lol just kidding. Anyways, great video! konyayaya didn't came for me but I'm using some support ones with my ibuki and castoria/waver btw, in those "needs mlb kscope" servants, you can raise the new skill to 10 and use a normal kscope if you don't have a mlb one
@carlosmartins22653 жыл бұрын
Honestly is a grace for f2p
@thejudge17283 жыл бұрын
Notably, though, at NP1 you need Bond 6 for SSRs, Bond 10 for non-general pool SRs and Bond 11 for general pool SRs/non-general pool Rs (like Cu) to be able to unlock said Append Skill.
@smilingcat38513 жыл бұрын
LMAO imagine having a single copy of kscope :') may i ask if i can get kscope and black grail on event banners?
@TheWalshinator3 жыл бұрын
@@smilingcat3851 You can, but since there are so many 5-star CEs in the pool and the event CEs have a higher pull rate, the chances are pretty low. Btw you can always check Summon Info on a banner if you want to see what can be pulled and what the drop rates are.
@smilingcat38513 жыл бұрын
@@TheWalshinator thank you for the info!
@thewizardninja3 жыл бұрын
Cu pulling that damage on a 3-turn loop at only Lv70 is insane.
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
EMIYA could also use BG with Castoria + Vitch + Atlas if anyone was wondering, there's multiple ways to build him now. Edit: I also found out that you can run Nero Bride with him as well with BG +Vitch + Atlas, but you need the 20% Append skill max. It does better damage on turn 3 than with Castoria, but it needs more overkill to loop and can't farm berserker enemies. On top of that if you're running Castoria + Vitch + Atlas, with Castoria it could be possible to loop off of 2 enemies on the field
@fawkes63523 жыл бұрын
"I'm playing both sides, so that I always come out on top." -Emiya, probably
@vuanhuc35823 жыл бұрын
2 vitch and plug suit give more damage since he cant use 3rd skill on 3rd turn, which hurt the damage alot
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
@@vuanhuc3582 I think he's fine without plugsuit, still does a good amount of damage but then again it depends on what NP level your EMIYA is and if your BG is MLB or not
@anonjohn97603 жыл бұрын
@@radmandan773 Also depends on how bulky each Wave is too. With a Castoria/Nero Bride he can get some more damage in on Waves 1 and 2 while still doing great damage on Wave 3 within DKS, so if one does not mind using the Plugsuit it's the most reliable way of looping with him.
@crown44543 жыл бұрын
what is atlas?
@alrescha34293 жыл бұрын
It's funny that the First on the High Tier is the most consistent to loop, while the Last on the low Tier does the most damage.
@frds_skce Жыл бұрын
It's just like Arts loop situation all over again, easy loop but low damage
@clyvetruises9587 Жыл бұрын
29:22 Nero Caster is an actual powerhouse. The numbers she reaches with no BG and no Oberon, AS A CASTER
@yushouji8952 Жыл бұрын
Tbf the enemy is Human so Koyan S2 helps
@Conkel Жыл бұрын
Tfw you can double stack her 50% attack up. Sweet sweet attack ups.
@Kimu3657 Жыл бұрын
Is she better np2 looping than arts loop np5 sieg?
@clyvetruises9587 Жыл бұрын
@@Kimu3657 I'd say yes, she is. She does over 14000 more damage at NP2 than Sieg at NP5 with their own buffs. And Buster farming is more reliable than Art, so she completely takes the cake
@soran68723 жыл бұрын
Buster looping is the most busted thing I ever witness in fgo. No wonder merlin didnt have a 50% batterry. At least arts and quick relies on np refund which varies against enemy class and number of enemies. This buster looping system is just "see red, press red". Back to basic, but better in every way.
@gaoaibai62433 жыл бұрын
Not really. You still need a specific CE and a particular MC. In Arts looping you can run with anything and go everywhere with 6 event CEs farming like a fkin overworked ox. In Buster... You will need Man-trait, Human-trait (sometimes both) and abuse the crap out of class advantage otherwise its noodle damage and unlike in Quick looping... There is no massive star bomb every turn for you to crit the mob. As xNaya has said :"the turn order is important". Buster memes is for the smart only if you have small brain dont bother doing it.
@Zakrovik3 жыл бұрын
@@gaoaibai6243 You seem like a butt hurt buster lover.
@kanna38163 жыл бұрын
@@gaoaibai6243 i mean, class advantage doesn't matter if you just go with Morgan or Arjuna Alter lol and Arts isn't always reliable in farming set ups cause FGO has been releasing farming nodes with 1 enemy the first two waves and 3 enemies during the last. So how do you even consistently loop like that
@Zero-fx8pc3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Castoria is still the most broken thing in Fgo Arts was already the strongest card type and they released an almost perfect servant. Vitch is good for farming but Castoria is good for everything, I wonder what would be the next Quick support I just hope it’s not Castoria level of broken.
@ryanwest60353 жыл бұрын
@@Zero-fx8pc I like how people say Vitch is only good for farming when there's heaps of footage of Vitch comps 3 turning some of the hardest boss fights in the game.
@saberblue3 жыл бұрын
Mlb kaleido is not needed if you unlocked the new np charging append skill. Oberon is already at least middle tier and he will also let many other servants loop thanks to his 70% battery. August is the ultimate gorilla month!
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
Koyanskaya wants us to return to monkee
@ddog123593 жыл бұрын
Hope we’ll be able to Buster loop with these servants without MLB scope or append skills one day
@dramaturgy8452 жыл бұрын
@@ddog12359 you can if you have oberon you wont need a mlb scope if thr servant has a 30 np charge skill
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious Emiya's versatility is actually reaching disgusting levels now
@mythos52763 жыл бұрын
If not for his triple arts card then he would be such a monster rn.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez99043 жыл бұрын
@@mythos5276 imagine him having a BBQAA Deck... he can easily NPBB Chain or NPAA Chain without any problems.
@SilverYPheonix3 жыл бұрын
He would be better if his 3rd skill made his NP type change/Stay for 3 turns as opposed to 1 turn. There would be so many different ways to use him then.
@deltafx94623 жыл бұрын
@@SilverYPheonix he doesn’t need that lol. He is the only unit that can max refund 300%, Which is a 30% Atk down for enemies, which is an amazing Def buff + it’s loopable. This is perfect for CQs. making that buff 3T, would make every other unit in the game irrelevant. EMIYA is now one of the best farmers in the game, and he’s also one of the best ST units in the game via Hawkeye.
@SilverYPheonix3 жыл бұрын
@@deltafx9462 That's not true, while my fanboy side would like to admit that is true but a looping AoE can't do everything, much less be the sole staple for CQs, you'd still need other types of kit since these challenges vary drastically in formation and strategy.
@luciebarathlone7303 жыл бұрын
Seeing my boi EMIYA do so well with Castoria and Koyanskaya makes me hella proud, now I shall be back to bullet farming; Koyanskaya is milking them like crazy
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
These systems just makes emiya even more versatile
@mochii8133 жыл бұрын
The biggest plot twist would be that they keep changing the meta with arts and buster for Emiya specifically
@ronaldomendoza75783 жыл бұрын
@@mochii813 DW were just Emiya worshippers all this time, I don't blame them tho
@nepspartan-75973 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldomendoza7578 the power of Unlimited Blade Works
@naiRISE7663 жыл бұрын
I guess it's time to use the bond grail on my Np 5 Emiya,
@tmkai6073 жыл бұрын
Damn, Buster became the best looping card with this system. It's not dependent on NP gen and this works with Junao albeit his comp requires plugsuit to work. This will open the pathway to more CQ 2-3t cheese
@sorashizen51303 жыл бұрын
Sure he needs plugsuit but thanks to the fact he can stack his first skill he mostl likely can yeet any w3 hp at np1
@elusiveshadow5848 Жыл бұрын
I won't say it's already the best system, cause with arts you don't have to worry about np gen that much either thanks to servants with heavy batteries like space Ishtar
@aartx50013 жыл бұрын
EMIYA can also utilize black grail. But requires atlas MC and a castoria to work (or plugsuit castoria if you want more damage with double vitch). In this setup he performs an arts/arts/buster loop, which could probably reach the same damage as the arts/buster/buster loop shown in the vid. In addition, he can also reach 300% buster crit damage on turn 3 if you use his hawkeye on turn 1. If vitch had 100 percent crit damage up at max level on her skill 3 he could've gone 400% buster crit damage on turn 3😲
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
Vitch's crit damage is only limited to buster crit though and EMIYA's got only 1 buster card, so it's 300% Buster crit dmg and 200% crit damage. He'd be the perfect Buster/Arts hybrid if he just had an extra buster card, then he'd be able to do Buster NP chains and Arts NP chain. He also gets 200% star gen too lol, you can legit generate 90 stars on a single enemy on turn 3 if you do a brave chain with him
@aartx50013 жыл бұрын
@@radmandan773 oh right forgot about the stacked star gen. Looks like our boi can finally hang with the top tiers now (and becomes even more of a workhorse lol).
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
@@aartx5001 Yeah he's so crazy versatile now, literally takes the best parts from the buster and arts meta
@anonjohn97603 жыл бұрын
Paracelsus (and maybe Nero Bride with/without some tweeking) also works in getting him to loop with Black Grail w/Plugsuit, but I'm not too sure if that set up is worth using over xNaya's suggested method.
@SaotomeKun973 жыл бұрын
W Vitch + Castoria + Miss Crane for me! MOAR NP DMG! It's raining STAAAAARS!
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
So artoria works really well with this system huh. Also AA being able to stack anti-evil is nuts
@twobrosgamers84263 жыл бұрын
I mean She already could Buster loop. The real surprise for me was Saber Alter.
@gerardorivas28112 жыл бұрын
I didn't quite understood that bit in the video description, does that mean that Saber Arturia can 3T loop everything, regardless of class affinity?
@saltminer77112 жыл бұрын
theoretically she can since she heavily relies on batteries to loop. Of course there are exceptions like reeeeeeeally high hp waves and class disadvantage
@alaaeddine35133 жыл бұрын
You don't really need an MLB kscope With the new skills Just a regular Kscope with 20℅ NP charge from the passive skills and you're good to go
@chuyerroa12783 жыл бұрын
Or oberon with his 70 battery
@alaaeddine35133 жыл бұрын
@@chuyerroa1278 Sure why not If you want to use plugsuit
@waffleserzeant33273 жыл бұрын
NA players can start saving grail if they dont have mlb kscope. Clairvoyance EX+++
@alaaeddine35133 жыл бұрын
@@waffleserzeant3327 What's grail for ?? You just need to unlock the second passive skill for the NP charge That all what's really matter
@thejudge17283 жыл бұрын
You need Bond 6 if your DPS is NP1 to actually unlock said skill, Bond 10 if said DPS is Salter.
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif98923 жыл бұрын
Crazy how arguably the strongest farmer here is Caster Cu
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
His looping damage is legit SSR tier, he can compete with BG Castoria Art teams and doesn't have to worry about refund.
@Bt36153 жыл бұрын
In before we discover that the third skill of Oberon is irrelevant for the meta and he was a red herring for Koya unexpected support role from the beginning.
@Ozma3153 жыл бұрын
He'd still contribute with just the 70 np and np dmg. In fact he'd allow some of the other 30np chargers with 6t CD to loop.
@yammoto1483 жыл бұрын
Even if thats the case, he is still a 70% charge support with a team wide 30% np up. That puts both Reines and waver to shame in just np damage.
@pinkbean8973 жыл бұрын
@@yammoto148 Well, Waver and Reines's power budget is partially divided into defensive utility as well, currently, Oberon has all his power budget in offensive utility, so Waver and Reines will still have use.
@orionrev80583 жыл бұрын
@@pinkbean897 They do have good damage reduction, but doesn’t Oberon also have defensive utility? His NP prevents his enemies from acting one turn unless you have invul piece.
@pinkbean8973 жыл бұрын
@@orionrev8058 The thing is, the nps usually change for the trial characters you get, the trial merlin you get in Babylonia is one example of this. It might still keep the sleep on it but you still need to bring invul pierce servants or CEs which is another loop you gotta jump through.
@LesEnfants19723 жыл бұрын
The biggest advantage of Double Vitch system is that you don’t have to fight for a Caster slot. Now you can have Skadi in All for Quick, Castoria in Caster for Art, Vitch in Assassin for Buster and Reines in Raider to be battery slave. Oh heck, just realize that now I can have a fully OP Harem support list that is exclusively make up of cute girls/hot chicks without any dude and it still make sense.
@wilt30513 жыл бұрын
Female only support list This is truly beautiful
@sorashizen51303 жыл бұрын
Skadi system is very limited tho
@Chaos2Frozen3 жыл бұрын
@@sorashizen5130 Someone somewhere out there would still need a Skadi to power-up their Scathach/Kama/MHXA etc.
@sorashizen51303 жыл бұрын
@@Chaos2Frozen by skadi system I was referring to double skadi farming system, it's very limited cause not many quick servents can skadi farm, and they barely released any these days. I never meant to say she's powerless or sth, in fact she's actually a top tier servents that she can give lot of quick servents merlin power in the look of quick cards
@PanteraEnjoyer2 жыл бұрын
nero saber as well
@rencaplizor90413 жыл бұрын
6 years later and OG Saber is finally on top of the food chain.
@xenoemblem73 жыл бұрын
Buster despite people saying it's gorilla tactic, is for me the hardest to build around
@lordpaulphilippfernandez99043 жыл бұрын
Probably because of the fact that while they deal the most damage, they can only fire their NP once, unlike Quick and Arts where they can loop.
@vuanhuc35823 жыл бұрын
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 not because of the loop, not many people loop np in harder quest, but anyway, it because that if you play art/quick, shut your brain and use all the quick chain/art chain you find, although not the best, is a decent way to clear a quest. Buster otoh, drop performance drastically when not having art to get np or quick to make crit.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez99043 жыл бұрын
@@vuanhuc3582 that's probably why Merlin is the premier Buster support huh. He can provide what Buster servants lack: NP charge and Crit Stars, while boosting their damage up even more.
@SilverYPheonix3 жыл бұрын
I've already cemented the way capitalizing on units of all card types though. Never had the luck of pulling any supports so I could never fully taste the double support shannanigans. I can finally dish out insane damage outside bonus damage Event CES.
@ammarfaiz43073 жыл бұрын
how to build buster np looping with double koyanskaya. step 0 - kscope. yep its that hard for us who doesnt have kscope at all. jokes aside its not easy to build quick and arts as well cuz you need specific servants for looping and based on card arrangement, you need to consider that factor as well. more star gen from hits, start with quick. more damage from np, start with Buster. its versatility is what comp building makes FGO abit of a brain game.
@ivanbluecool3 жыл бұрын
Space Ishtar on her throne petting her new fox. As the support list grows so does she.
@mito05133 жыл бұрын
space ishtar is back at it again lmao what a great servant
@epsilia9233 жыл бұрын
wait a minute... since koyanskaya's also from the future... that means a future triple koyanskaya video might be inevitable.
@renflare25703 жыл бұрын
As a Salter simp,seeing her consistently 3 turn loop,makes me the happiest man to ever have her
@medievalplayz83272 жыл бұрын
I wish she had a rerun
@soka67323 жыл бұрын
Honestly 3T AJA just seems like the most optimal way to farm if you can do it. You never need to worry about anything surviving since everything will die to him
@fseiba67182 жыл бұрын
U can dish out with double castoria and berserk musashi 300k damage if u use both castorias np If u use plugsuit like arjuna its way bigger than arjunas attack but u have to use a black grail for this I still think that castoria looping is superior to anything cus its cheaper faster and castoria is the best support for everything in this game not just for looping
@sentryion3106 Жыл бұрын
@@fseiba6718 yes but castoria looping is a lot more troublesome with non 3 3 3 node which is where buster is more preferable
@AeirEclipseHayastin3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe my max grailed NP3 Summer BB is actually viable in this setup. I thought that was Madness Enhancement that possessed me to max her out: turns out it was Clairvoyance...
@GalaxT3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work, appreciate you always taking the time to make these compilations!
@Davi-sq7bi3 жыл бұрын
Indirectly, DW Buffed Saber Artoria Again
@chalo3427 Жыл бұрын
56:49 I genuinely got tilted that you didn't do the beautiful buster chain lmao
@jonathandelcid26763 жыл бұрын
Faster than the flash with these uploads my guy. Keep up the hussle.
@YourLordandSenpai3 жыл бұрын
I'm really hyped for these new systems. My Mordred will get some good use
@thetsubamehub21393 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Mordred get’s cucked from being in top tier. By 1 turn of cooldown. One day Mordred will get her chance without someone taking it away from her.
@glebscheglov92913 жыл бұрын
It seems vanilla Artoria always kills mordred in the end
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
She still have a win with castoria though. Surf mo is a beast with double castoria
@glebscheglov92913 жыл бұрын
@@ScumbagKazuela as much as summertoria is a beast against bosses with castoria. which is another artoria anyway
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
@@glebscheglov9291 archuria is ST though while surf mo is a 3t aoe beast
@glebscheglov92913 жыл бұрын
@@ScumbagKazuela that is exactly what i wrote on the previous message)
@cardinalslover093 жыл бұрын
Tbh kinda glad to see you only invested the lore on the first skill and left the others at 6 for this. Makes thinking about her skills a little easier. Only need 10/x/x to truly pull of buster looping.
@gonzalokun3 жыл бұрын
holy shit now I can spam summer BB even more on farming let's, fucking, go
@ningen63923 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming this doesn’t really affect arts much because we have broken servants like Castoria and Sishtar. Quick: this is fine Sishtar: The world moves around me
@someoneelse49393 жыл бұрын
Saber Artoria high tier looper. I thought I would never see the day, but I'm really glad.
@snailthelostcow633 жыл бұрын
Man, this could also work well with Merlin as both plugsuit and MORE buster buff in exchange of Atlas MC Delicious
@Unknown-wb4ex3 жыл бұрын
Tama Vitch + Memelin = unga bunga damage
@Zeon0813 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-wb4ex double tama + merlin + godjuna = more damage than any single enemy can take in 1 turn. it's 80% more attack + 150% buster performance + 200% crit damage on buster cards + 100% more damage on debuffed enemies. There are no enemies in game that can survive BBB crit chain without guts or break bar. Fucking insane.
@sentryion31063 жыл бұрын
@@Zeon081 imo Arjuna is the biggest winner here if you have vitch and castoria or waver (should be everyone by this time) At np1 he does almost 300k dmg to 1 target and the good thing he is immune to small wave. Unless there’s a foreigner node there’s little to no case where you can’t bring him
@pinkbean8973 жыл бұрын
@@sentryion3106 well with 300k dmg, it'll be tanked to 100k dmg, so he is still usable there with some face cards
@lhp89453 жыл бұрын
Every one: Replace Merlin with Vitch in Buster System Me: Well then,Chen Gong's new victim it is
@mordi92862 жыл бұрын
More ammo for THE GONG
@trigger27773 жыл бұрын
Emiya can do it without Kaleidoscope though. By filling Emiya's NP bar in the initial round (of course the transfer mana skill is active with NP art), plus the CE Divine banquet. Can allow Emiya to charge his NP to 100%.Then in the second round the transfer skill can be used again because of the effect of the previous vitch skill, Of course the NP will be filled 100%.
@SilverYPheonix3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to everyone who was lucky (or whaled) to get her, it's thanks to you these support videos can be made and generate a decent number of views.
@Pokemaster-wg9gx3 жыл бұрын
reminder that given 120 gives you 2300 attack and some change if you somehow got a servant to 120 and got the charge append somehow without getting an MLB Kscope it perfectly replaces it. given its confirmed we can get event coins from events you don't have to worry that much but if you want to get this day one it would take about NP 4 and bond 9-10, although of course if you go above bond 10 you can knock off an NP level or 2
@Memann208 Жыл бұрын
Never would I have thought I would brush off the dust from my Summer BB from 3 years ago. She might actually have good synergy with Koyan Light because of Buster Card guarantees, Crit Absorb/Damage, and stacking the Buster/NP buff.
@juanoliveira19203 жыл бұрын
Well for those who cant loop you can use arash on the 1st wave but doin this you need 2 scopes (1 mlb for your aoe dps our just using the new charge passive if your dps doesnt have battery) our just using a scope and an mlb sakuraleido =)
@SaotomeKun973 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on 50% Charge CE w Buster/NP Up + Lv10 Mana Load Append, then his 30% Battery…
@suryatejaaddanki46493 жыл бұрын
Artoria seems to be the most consistent and highly damaging here
@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub3 жыл бұрын
Artoria is the easiest to set up, Junao does the most damage
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
Yeah because Koyanskaya only provides a single damage type(Buster) while Artoria's got all 3 damage types(Buster, Charisma, NP damage) and she can use her broken steroid twice and stack her charisma twice as well. She has the most chemistry with double koyanskaya
@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub3 жыл бұрын
@@radmandan773 don't forget being able to guarantee buster cards to fall back on and the fact she works with all MCs
@radmandan7733 жыл бұрын
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub If you want to go even more deeper, not needing any mystic code means you could also run a plugsuit Merlin with her, stacking up to 200% Buster, 56% ATK up(Becomes 86% ATK up once you use Plugsuit's ATK up on final wave) 30% NP dmg, 100% overall crit damage and 100% buster crit damage.
@gerardorivas28112 жыл бұрын
@@radmandan773 I didn't quite understood that bit in the video description, does that mean that Saber Arturia can 3T loop everything, regardless of class affinity?
@quochuyvo37743 жыл бұрын
Merlin can rest now. Better save up my sq for her then, my Chen Gong really need a new arrow
@aminebachir33943 жыл бұрын
She's bad for Cheng why would you use her with him
@Aregulargameplayer3 жыл бұрын
Merlin was never really used for buster farming in the first place tbh.
@quochuyvo37743 жыл бұрын
@@aminebachir3394 I just want Chen Gong to have fun. I can spare a few turns to let Chen shoot some "arrow"
@quochuyvo37743 жыл бұрын
@@Aregulargameplayer He used to be in my farming set-up. I didn't have many good servants back in the days. Merlin is my only ssr and the only one has team battery
@aminebachir33943 жыл бұрын
@Agustin Andriolo why are you telling me something obvious, it's just that she doesn't give him anything besides 50% gage... Even Skadi has defense down, use castoria and Waver/reines, not just someone who gives only battery 🙄
@Criblo4562 жыл бұрын
I was curious what sort of damage Summer Abby did. I was okay with it until I noticed she was NP5 and still did less damage than Cu Caster...
@hungluu38683 жыл бұрын
Nice, first half of LB6 is Cu Caster’s strengthen quest and it’s really worth!
@FuWindsword3 жыл бұрын
I love how Buster could Loop even if there was 3 waves of 2 or even 1 enemies. ❤️ Long live Buster meme!
@kuhakuxsenpai Жыл бұрын
Funny how this's popping up in my recommended videos feed half an hour before her banner goes live :D
@aa401 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a pre Oberon video!
@thelurkerbel0w3 жыл бұрын
*Koyanskaya, looking at Tamamo* Look at me. I am Mikon now~
@grimthenightmare65363 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comprehensive essay, lol. Good Work.
@EmporerEmblem3 жыл бұрын
Technically MLB scope isn't always needed due to the 20% starting charge append skill, it's easy enough to get through high bond and NP1 for 5 stars, or NP2 and high bond (or just NP1 bond 10) for 4 stars, non-MLB scope would work too, that said lower stats due to unleveled CE, but it is an alternative. The new Wizard Marshal CE would also work, since it's just an hp focused scope, weaker, but still an alternative.
@gaoaibai62433 жыл бұрын
Not really its still bond 6 and a lore involved. If you already have a solid Buster roster already built up to a decent level then its ok. But if you DONT have a solid Buster roster (aka when you pull for a new Buster servant) then Plugsuit is MANDATORY.
@EmporerEmblem3 жыл бұрын
@@gaoaibai6243 First off, did you even read what I wrote? Because my comment was about how MLB scope isn't always needed. Additionally I never mentioned plugsuit or any mystic codes, however yeah, plugsuit or Atlas are what you need for Vitch looping depending on the CD of your servants battery (assuming they have one), much like how fragment of 2004 is run with specific Quick and Arts looping setups instead of plugsuit. Also, It's much more feasible to hit bond 6 (or role more copies for of a servant for higher NP and tokens) and spend a lore than get an MLB scope for the vast majority of players, since neither bond nor lores rely on RNG to get.
@ahaloburnout9 ай бұрын
One thing that isn’t noticed often in CF’s final cutscene is how it’s a mirrored recreation of the scene where Jeralt died. Down to the line he says foreshadowing the latter scene. “To think that the first time I saw you cry, your tears would be for me. I should be sad but I’m happy..”
@AzureAetherXx3 жыл бұрын
"Many Servants are also stuck with using Atlas MC and cannot use it to boost their W3 damage, further reducing the damage ceiling." So I think it might be worth noting that Ereshkigal might be one of the better uses for this system as each of her NPs gets stronger each time she uses it while Blessing of Kur is active. Her 2nd NP will have a 20% Atk boost and her 3rd NP will have a 40% Atk boost.
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
Yeah her attack ups really help her out coz it stacks multiplicatively with the buster buffs
@AnotherGuyFromEarth3 жыл бұрын
As a Buster Memer, this fills me with so much joy. I held my head high during Skadi's ,and later, Castoria's arrivals, believing that one day Buster will retake its throne again amongst Quick and Arts again. Now I'm more sad that I didn't manage to pull Arjuna Alter. Also, the real winner here is Spishtar.
@serafallleviathan41683 жыл бұрын
Cu Caster can work with any MC if you max his 1st skill and 2nd append.
@MuhammadKharismawan3 жыл бұрын
Oberon? I'm starting to think as Koyanskaya were given the buster up he' s actually gonna be a universal support, ie 70% charger Waver rather than the all awaited buster?
@dewanegara83333 жыл бұрын
well, if his 3rd skill leaks is true, he can become the best booster loop in the game.
@andott49593 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that you can run kscope and append on Koyanskaya while no CE on Melusine accomplishing the same thing as the high tier servants.
@DumaVadamee1093 жыл бұрын
to put in perspective this np1 lv 90 cu alter is doing the same damage with double vitch/reines as a np3 lv100 with 2 buffs eresh, merlin, and waver. Id live to see what he can do with double vitch and merlin at higher np levels.
@troyjusttroy17813 жыл бұрын
Tammy being back in the meta feels so good
@troyjusttroy17813 жыл бұрын
Never mind It's oberon now...
@koharuyuuki31623 жыл бұрын
We're in the Cu Caster Meta now
@Silver-Arrow3 жыл бұрын
Ibuki is actually able to get away with a 50% CE and plugsuiting in a battery though she is my only koyanskaya compatable servant with compatable skill levels so i cant really say much for other options
@MisaNeruru3 жыл бұрын
and yes,,, space ishtar is solution for all problem,,, can looping buster, art & quick with her NP now LOL
@razzildarkbrew19523 жыл бұрын
First time seeing Avicebron being used as a main DPS
@redfish3590 Жыл бұрын
the problem with junao is that he's okay but he kill the enemy too fast before we can recharge his np
@emmanuelsantos20653 жыл бұрын
shoutout to those like me hoping that raikou could loop. twas very unlikely but alas, it was just not meant to be
@aldoivancerecedoperez62353 жыл бұрын
I feel you man, I really do, she is my favorite Servant, but somehow she is never lucky with this kind of matters. Hope one day she gets what she deserves.
@emmanuelsantos20653 жыл бұрын
Amen my guy, amen.
@kongsunlyheng41863 жыл бұрын
still feel sad that Brynhildr summer is like 10 NP short for 3T NP loop
@_nzmi_12173 жыл бұрын
2x Koyanskaya with Morgan Vs Enemies with the man trait is absolutely disgusting I think I hit almost 2.5 mil with them
@felipeferreira98633 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I believe it is possible to use Space Ishtar's 1st NP as Arts. to get a 50% refund. 3 enemies (not beserk or assassin), Fragment of Year 2004 (50% NP gain/ 50% NP damage) , CE that gives NPgain/arts bonus/50% starting NP, like Painting Summer or Magical Girl of Sapphire. I think 50% refund is possible, at least very close.
@ArmityleOfTheChaos3 жыл бұрын
With Oberon on the way having 70% battery and appends you could even have 20% battery servants loop with a mlb sakurascope at minimum. 20 append + 40 from battery twice + 75 sakurascope = 135 + Oberon 70 = 205 + double vitch = 305 Or alternatively use superscope and skip the append.
@rikakosimp44833 жыл бұрын
Buster loop has come *The end is near!*
@KuroiHoshiV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the blessing at the end Naya! May the Criminal Overlord and the Moon Goddess Bless you too
@frds_skce Жыл бұрын
On the first day of 6th Anni NA, I got Koyan in my first multi roll. Tysm Naya, now I need to rewatch this more seriously to utilize her
@hemag38953 жыл бұрын
Man I hope the anni lancer buff is Eresh and she gets an NP upgrade (with maybe more atk up/having it happen before damage?)
@usernamesarestupid71043 жыл бұрын
This video is the exact reason why Arjuna will never have another rate up banner
@wallisbudge4022 Жыл бұрын
I come back to FGO after a year and now I find Cu Caster in a top tier, these are crazy times we live in.
@lipaiakerman3 жыл бұрын
Sishtar just chilling in every loop type
@451highbar83 жыл бұрын
Juicy double on AA s1. Dayum
@AkiRa220843 жыл бұрын
Woah, Tesla can double all his buffs turn 3!
@sorashizen51303 жыл бұрын
That goes for all servents tho, tyey all can double their buffs if its 2 turns or more
@ShiraFuyu20223 жыл бұрын
And the Meta just keeps on Evolving
@m0narch10003 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to loop with my NP 5 Bunny King in 2 years. Also can't wait till we have 6 enemy moon cancer BB mobs.
@agearmaster13 жыл бұрын
Altria with Kscope and Append starting np skill level for the 20 charge works correct?
@akatskipain19753 жыл бұрын
yes or u can plugsuit Merlin
@agearmaster13 жыл бұрын
@@akatskipain1975 omg :O
@WDWatameVirus3 жыл бұрын
Little correction: 11:56 Tesla starts here What about Napoleon? I got him yesterday with the SSR ticket since I didn't had a AoE Archer, does double Vitch works well with him?
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
Kinda meh. Based from direwolf's vid, he needs koyanskaya to clear wave 1 and the he can proceed to np on wave 2 and 3. A workaround is to use arash on wave 1 since you'll most likely run him in saber nodes anyways.
@LokiLiesGod3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to use Vitch's own NP on turn one, so he doesn't work as a solo DPS. You can use MLB Kaleidoscope on Vitch and any CE on Napo, though, so you can still keep a 5CE composition.
@jonathandelcid26763 жыл бұрын
Napoleon can't three turn with double Koyanskaya alone but I think he definitely can with the switching mystic code. He wasn't including in the video because he requires more help than just double koyanskaya.
@LokiLiesGod3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandelcid2676 The "low tier" xNaya added is of the servants that can do it with another plugsuit support. Napoleon and a few other servants (including those with just a 20% charge on their kit) can't NP 3 turns in a roll, but they can NP twice, so you can just use Vitch to clear wave one. It's a lot of work for not that good a result, but if that is all you can do, it's an option.
@chuyerroa12783 жыл бұрын
Or used arash to w1
@alvinchang85823 жыл бұрын
After watching this i just realize that all this time i can 3T buster AOE NP without koyanskaya because i have enough support servant with 50% battery skill but the problem is i only have 4 kscope CE and i'm missing 1 more
@mhliadesu3 жыл бұрын
*this footage is from my friend. I have no Tesla* Omfg I never expected that even xnaya don't have some servant 😂😂😂
@lorenzovismara93853 жыл бұрын
Artoria best farming Servant fuck yeah!!!
@anonjohn97603 жыл бұрын
Funny how all the High Tier consists of Servants were considered bad or mediocre at one point, yet all it took was a few buffs and the newest meta Support to launch them to the top of the pile. Funnier still that they were all launch Servants AND had their roots in F/SN. History sure has ways of going in circles, huh?
@christianpark03313 жыл бұрын
For the Standard Tier Servants, you can still use them without a MLB Kaleidoscope. A normal K-scope is fine. But you would need a lot of extra effort into it though. Every 5* servants has 3 new skills now, one of them being a 10~20% starting NP gauge at the beginning of the fight. To level up the skill you need normal skill level up materials. So then with a 20% NP gauge at the beginning of the fight + 80% from Kaleidoscope, the Standard Tier Buster Farming with Vitch became a little more possible.
@sahilm4833 жыл бұрын
Lets be real Godjuna is OMEGA broken now
@darkstorm2579 Жыл бұрын
Considering I don't even have regular Kscope, I'm gonna have to get really creative with my party building. Luckily I have several CEs with 50% NP, a maxed out Castoria, and of course, the infamous plugsuit. I'll also be getting Waver for my free SSR as I don't have him and I need more general support Servants. Yes, I know Oberon comes out after the anniversary, but I just do not have enough sq to try pulling for him. My main priorities are Morgan and Koyanskaya, followed by Melusine. Maybe if I have any sq remaining, I might try pulling for him but he's not my highest priority.
@dewanegara83333 жыл бұрын
for space ishtar you can also use any 50% starting CE + chaldea combat uniform + any servant that can charge 50% NP too.
@saltminer77113 жыл бұрын
As long as your 50 percent battery has a 6t cooldown , you can do it that way. Considering alot of players also chose waver in the ssr ticket, there isn't much of a problem obtaining a third charger either.