"FGO Hot Takes" : 90++ nodes and the importance of Oberon

[@G.Dongio]

Its a good thing if they alternate events where you now can use the single target servants for farming and events where you need the "classic" aoe farmers

[@artemeaux]

I guess they could go that way, but for me 90++ is like a challenge that if you can efficiently clear it you are rewarded with 90+ drop but with 90 node's drop rate

[@Spiderdude93]

@@artemeaux I thought 90+ nodes were better overall, what do 90 nodes have that are better than the 90+ ones?

[@artemeaux]

@@Spiderdude93 you're correct in 90+ better overall. It's just that 90 nodes have better rate for specific event currency

[@TC127_]

@@Spiderdude93 90 nodes give a high amount of a specific currency but only give 1 90+ nodes give a lower amount of each currency but give all 3, but if you need all 3 currencies its more efficient than 90 90++ gives all 3 currencies at the same high amount as their respective lv90 node

[@paulct91]

Better idea, if farming is still a FGO thing, then just make two nodes, one for Single Target farming, and the other for "regular" wave AOE NP farming.

[@2iq371]

funny thing is BB isn't even evil in this nod. so astraea extra evil trait dmg doesn't even apply

[@grailedrobin]

Instead of Oberon, I have seen others use ruler Moriarty to apply Evil to BB while at the same time clearing out the Ocha Nobu to get Astraea apply her anti evil super effective modifier

[@owo4288]

Unless you have a copy of Ruler Moriarty lying around which I'm not sure if slot him in instead of Oberon is actually worth it at lower NP level.

[@Talyrion]

Wasn't regular BB always Chaotic Good? I'm pretty sure BB is only Evil in her Summer variant.

[@Soluxya]

I do agree that they need to release more ST SSRs. I'm hoping that the Grand Berserker that might be released with LB7 is an ST farmer meme or a face card meme. We already have a lot of AOE Berserkers who are the best at what they do, Junao and Morgan for Buster, Ibuki and Musashi for arts and now Sen no Rikyu for Quick.

[@ammarnk9260]

Who said they're gonna release a grand berserker?

[@amari7782]

@@ammarnk9260 lb7 has a grand servant there and everyone is assuming it’s grand zerk

[@dramaturgy845]

@@ammarnk9260 apparently daybits servant is grand berserker from what ive heard

[@tipoima]

Ado Edem ST arts farmer when

[@amari7782]

@@dramaturgy845 he’s a grand and since we were told he wanted a zerk process of elimination was that daybit has grabs zerk

[@PlushieMistress]

Oh yeah i forgot abt super bunyan, I apologize lol

[@yolkkyz]

It's okay Plushie I also forgot about her existence

[@AaronMaximum]

Who hasn't, honestly?

[@ray-kun9]

I'm surprised you even remembered the trung sisters because both them and super bunyan are equally forgettable :gudalul:

[@Cav829]

@@ray-kun9 Nah, the Trungs are actually really good. Also Sea Crisis was an actual fun event, whereas the less said about the Riyo event the better. Bunyan on the other hand came out like a month after Bazett and fills the same "ST" Alter Ego role. Except Bazett blows her out of the water.

[@nombregenerico7775]

@@Cav829 wat happened in the riyo event?

[@JohnDoeADeerAFemaleDeer]

5:25 “Maybe they’re doing this so they can release a omni-farmer Single-Target Servant”, and about half a year later, we got Draco.

[@LilyAquina]

They just re-invent themselves in preparation for the next couple years of the game lifespan... At this point, the game has reached peak peak maturity where new servants bring nothing new to the table aside of "more option" to min-turn certain nodes... By introducing something that majority can't do comfortably, they soft-reset the game so that they can release the solution that excites its playerbase. In NA, the last 2 events that I did since I came back have "tricky" farming nodes as well. IMO this is a good move...This is what live service games should do ideally. Once the current content has matured and becomes stale, reinvent yourself... It makes farming a bit more fun than the last time I remembered and this will at the very least, ensure that until the 10th anniv, they have something else to offer other than "new servants to do what other servants can already do"

[@sentryion3106]

I guess since its only 2 turn you can treat it as a 3 turn and stun the large target and split the 1mil to 2 500k. Then again the moment they make it 3 turn I'm out of ideas

[@PlushieMistress]

yeah that works as well

[@dramaturgy845]

Its probably 2 turns since it has no damage mod ce like the summer event

[@pingufan1239]

5:19 wait until this guy finds out about Summer Castoria

[@PlushieMistress]

Also you can always just 3 turn this, I don't see the purpose of pushing for 2T unless you are farming super hard for this. I don't want to send the wrong message I genuinely enjoy this more than just arts looping. Also Also for this event specifically, just raise Iyo, she is perfect for this.

[@poijutt7926]

Meh, I've been 2 turning it with Kintoki and Summer Corday without any trouble

[@fl3xratgame]

"an omni farmer ST servant in the future" they released draco, so yeah Plushie was right

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

I always like this type of video. Rather calming.

[@bestpriest2224]

I love the Lvl 90++ nodes. Gives as much drop as some raids

[@ammarnk9260]

Wait till you see the lottos

[@artemeaux]

@@ammarnk9260 correct me if i'm wrong but the drop rate for 90 node still roughly the same as old node before the 90+ and 90++ stuff right. So, the way i see it is 90 is good for specific event currency, 90+ is good if you want to get all event currency but at a lowered drop rate and 90++ is just 90+ but with 90 node's drop rate

[@GeorgeMonet]

I HATE THEM.

[@player2pushstart]

they gave everyone iyo with event boost which can farm the 90++ node easily with proper support...

[@tinchong7059]

This. Grailed NP5 Iyo with black grail is MVP for me

[@rodolfaso6750]

It would be nice if the Grand Berserker had some mechanic similar to Melusine's that allows him to choose the range of his NP, I think that would be a good way for him to stand out from the rest.

[@Air83]

The free release of a great generalist AoE Arts looper like Iyo, may by another signal in that direction. Exactly because they are giving her as welfare, they automatically devalue the whole system. And they are perfectly aware of this. So you are right, they are probably going to change the meta soon. If they didn't do it for the Anniversary, we should expect something huge for LB7 and/or New Year.

[@sebastianchavez1225]

Honestly? 3 turn farming is overrated You can attack with the regular cards, you know? I farmed like 60 roulettes in the last lotto taking from 5 to 7 turns each time.

[@poijutt7926]

This is a welcome change. Looping babies don't deserve rights

[@sadino123]

This video appeared on my feed and i clicked without checking the date... i could swear at the ending Plushie was jokingly talking about Draco before i saw the vid is 7 minths old... spot on prediction.

[@Kcirrot]

Castoria has only been in NA for a couple of months and I can already see how more that 90% of the game has now devolved into Arts looping. Honestly I think that this might let different servants have a point to exist and that’s fine with me.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Well the game wouldn't need to devolve around arts looping if they didn't force players to do that to maximize the value of their time. They could have easily have chosen to make nodes be a SINGLE WAVE and/or have autobattle feature or replay functionality like other gacha games have.

[@sorawitchareanchol8534]

90++ node is fun to play and think about what team can do min turn but I still want auto farming in this game. Because not everyone has enough time to play or has a lot of CE events to increase the number of event shop currency to reduce farming rounds. If this game has auto farming I can farm while I'm working or doing something that important. Today we have the FGOAutomata app that an unofficial auto-farming that doing by fgo fans but I want official auto-farming as a system in-game. I hope one-day dev will do this but it is just a hope, all of u know fgo's dev are lazy they don't do even a rerun event and make all of the new event stay too long(3 weeks) and have more dead week in every month this is more disaster than DW.

[@nevisysbryd7450]

They really, really hate looping. They clearly want much slower gameplay, between not wanting np skips, constantly taking the rug out from under dominant farming strategies, and so on. _Yet they keep making the game mostly come down to grindy AF farming._

[@Sharquado]

great video. it's really refreshing to hear insights & analysis like this, especially since it will help non-JP players to see what's on the horizon. since Tunguska, when the DMG CEs were gated behind gacha and pure-f2p comps were tough to find, it's clear that a trend is slowly developing and i'm not sure that's a universally good thing. like you said, Oberon is a near must-have servant, and as much as many of us like to say that no servant is a "must-have", it's clear that he's about as close as it gets now. i worry that placing a limited SSR - one who has had what, one banner ever? - in such a position of importance will put pressure on non-JP players to forego the servants they might like to try for so they can have more SQ for Oberon instead. it is compounded further when considering that before this we had typically only seen such lengths of time between OP units happen for damage-dealers like Arjuna Alter and Summer Musashi. this of course hearkens back to the pain that our friend Myst went through when rolling for him, and...i'd hate to see that happen to many others simply because they feel pressured by the way the game is trending. i guess we'll see. also of note to me: i think the last new ST SSR Buster servant we got in the game was Super Bunyan and the last SSR ST Buster before her was way back to Sigurd. that's kind of disconcerting to me, since it would be really convenient to have more options for ST Buster looping, but i guess it means the next one has the potential to be massively impactful.

[@valhallakombi7239]

Just pull Kintoki later this year/early next

[@supermarth64]

For the Summer Arctic World event, 5S 90++ > 6S 90+ in terms of droprates so even if you dropped down a slot (which is reasonable due to the HP values) it was still more efficient to farm the 90++ node. For the GUDAGUDA 7 event, 5S 90++ = 6S 90+ in terms of droprates for the tea mat, which is the important aspect of it. With that in mind, it's not super important to actually farm 90++ on this event unless you wanted the node mats, want to save time (2T vs 3T minimum), or don't want to plug. Going into the future I'm hoping that more events will follow the equals amount as opposed to 90++ being strictly better because the barrier of entry to 6S 90++ is very high and I'm fine with not all players being able to realistically go for that goal.

[@XorPaw_Edits]

2 waves nodes are really bad for the likes of spishtar. And other characters made with the assumptions that battles last 3 turns.

[@jeksewnoleeray1020]

As a free to play it used to be that you could just summon one good omni farmer and castoria and then have the rest of your quartz for boss killers and waifus. Now I feel like I could spend every bit of free quartz and still not have all the necessary pieces to consistently farm. This trend is pushing the game further into whale territory and my motivation to play fgo is starting to take a hit. I started out with high hopes for Lasengle, but in the end fgo has enough whales to make it worthwhile for Lasengle to push greedy strategies that leave F2P players in the dust.

[@madearjuna4793]

Nah I don't think F2P can't survive even if can't farm the 90++ node efficiently since both Level 90 & 90+ still exist. 90++ nodes are just like what the level requirements said its meant for well developed endgame account.

[@fseiba6718]

Or just play NA and plan ahead i think

[@mohdig9]

it's a gacha game having good luck is part of the required skillset also, you dont have to do the 90++ nodes 90+ and 90++ nodes allow people to try different things and utilize their roster to its full potential

[@NickOfoshizzle]

I like these 90++ nodes with a high hp single enemy better because it's giving me a reason to use single target np servants. My hope is that they release more servants that can switch between AOE and single target NP or introduce a new CE that switches AOE to single or single to AOE and adjusts the NP damage modifiers accordingly.

[@lhv2k]

I love these 90++ nodes, they are super fun the way they encourage people to be much more creative with team comp and not just brainlessly resort to 1 looping comp everytime. They are not even demanding, the previous 90++ has a damage CE and f2p dps can min turn it without Oberon, and the current 90++ can even be farmed 6CE 2 turn with just 1 Castoria and free units, so these nodes are not designed for whale at all, but people need to be extra creative, and i really like this direction they're heading.

[@sanjeevsinghrajput5593]

Damn, imagine having Castoria Can't be me

[@GeorgeMonet]

THEY ARE AWFUL Most accounts cannot 2 turn these nodes. That isn't fair or reasonable. It is trash game design.

[@Gio.3]

Its beyond me how people can find farming fun.

[@gram1438]

As a NA player and haven't experienced it yet, is really that bad that you have to take a little time to do these?

[@sansars1]

​@@GeorgeMonet just farm 90 or 90+ lil bro

[@IrfanFakhrianto]

Cant wait for them to release a quick ST grand zerker cain that can guarantee his face cards for one turn and has a triple buster deck

[@owo4288]

These 90++ node should only appear in event with damage bonus CE to make it fair for everyone instead of this. At least the reward for this event is worth it.

[@Event_Horizonn]

Well, all events don’t JUST have one 90++ node, there are plenty more with reasonable difficulty levels. So asking LSG to limit it like that just to make it fair for everyone isn’t exactly sound argument imo.

[@alfierowenaw5827]

Personally, I really like the 90++ Nodes, It's makes some Servants you never knew you needed would be good for doing that Node I used Summer Nobu for both of the 90++ Nodes, So far the MVP of those nodes, that's because Summer Nobu just has a bonus for both events back to back

[@GeorgeMonet]

Personally I know they are terrible game design. The devs need to stop increasing mob hp and actually start reducing it.

[@BoopaKing]

I despise the fact that Roland of all servants ended up being one of my most consistent farmers. That motherfucker could've been an NP5 Kriemhild. He's NP3, she's NP2.

[@agearmaster1]

Is a great idea until the event doesnt have a damage CE.

[@randomnpc445]

These nodes are nothing but a good thing (provided they stay an extra node at the end and don't replace the standard nodes) for everyone except hyper optimized "oh no I didn't min-turn this quest my life is literally over" type people who also don't happen to have the tools to min-turn these quests. As it stands, you can easily farm events and clear the shop with no issues just from farming the standard 3/3/3 nodes. I've done this many times, and I often end up super clearing the shop (monuments, pieces, and silver fous included) now that they've given us three weeks per event as a standard. I rarely have more than one bonus CE for silver/gold currency (if that) and I'll regularly do it with time to spare. So essentially what these nodes do is open up an even faster option for people who have the tools to do it. If it's the most efficient node in terms of AP spent vs drops gained, then people who want to maximize AP efficiency can do it regardless of how long it takes. If someone has lacking tools and can't consistently clear it in a reasonable amount of time, and value time efficiency over AP efficiency, then they can just continue farming the standard 3/3/3 nodes. If someone has the tools to consistently clear it in 2 - 4 turns, then even better. Even with the case of this event where it's a "pseudo-lottery" like... who really cares? Does it really bother you _that_ much that you're potentially going to miss out on 2 million QP and a couple materials just because you chose to farm the easier node rather than the super duper 90++ node? Don't let me tell you that you're playing the game wrong, or that what you find fun "isn't the right way to have fun," but if this bothers you, you've gotta realize that you're in the minority (this isn't aimed directly at you Plushie, it's a general purpose, second person you). The positives of these nodes far, far, far outweigh the negatives, and the negatives are only really going to be seen as a negative by a minority of players. Unless this style of node becomes either the standard for all nodes, or events become so strict with farming requirements that you'll have a hard time doing anything meaningful without farming these nodes, there's not really a problem here.

[@huhhuhuuhh]

The whale node

[@saberblue]

ST servants have been less and less useful in recent years, since a lot of CQs and story fights turned into multi enemy nodes and a lot of AOE servants are so op they can easily deal enough damage. Honestly I'm kinda glad they are doing this, finally giving some spotlight to servants that simply have been neglected for far too long. If only they actually made more ST SSRs with some unique gameplay rather than the 1000th AOE farmer with 30/50% battery...

[@adz4528]

My Oberon is 100/100 2k/2k fou and I mostly did it coz of his character and how cool I think he is. My last 4* pick was Astarea as well. But bruh there's no way I can farm this. I get it's prob meant to be for Iyo but without a dmg CE there's just no way...I wish I had mlb BG too. I picked that CE but I'm still one off and it really makes a difference.

[@dindapriska]

Well, you certainly can if you want to. It's not hard nor impossible -unlike most, if not all, super recollection quests,- but it takes either a lot of resources if you want to min turn it or a lot of turns if you don't want to min turn it. I did the latter since min turning isn't really my cup of tea. I did it with just Iyo - Astraea - support Castoria. It took at least 5 turns, sometimes more, but they both are grailed and have high NP level (Iyo is obvious, though that Astraea is NP3).

[@adz4528]

@@dindapriska Yeah I never really cared for minturning much myself. I used to brawl if it would get me maximum drops. But I started the event late and I'm trying to reach 2M and clear shop so it helps here. Fortuantely I am able to 3t it with Iyo with *non* mlb BG x2 Castoria and Oberon I just need to get good facecards.

[@dindapriska]

@@adz4528 Oh, so you're speedrunning it. Good luck then. Try to stock a bunch of leaves first then make tea in batch, like every 30 teas or something. That really helps in jumping through the ladder.

[@adz4528]

@@dindapriska Yeah I finished the main quests and have Iyo NP5 and her costume. Just working on the ladder and shop. Yeah thanks.

I really like 90++ nodes before 90++ a thing I always love to do weird farming team but now that this is a thing I finally got to use Gong Davinci Ruler team lol but god dam they need to lower the hp like please just make it 800k or something that like the right amount of hp for me to consistently clear it with 6 Ce and a Counter class + Oberon

[@madearjuna4793]

So far all the 90++ node have f2p solution either by using the Damage CE or using welfare sevant. I guess if the next event doesn't give both maybe the 90++ hp threshold will be lowered

[@Gio.3]

Honestly I never thought of farming as something fun nor interesting, so ever since they introduced the 90+ I've been against it. I would rather have more Challenge quest per event than harder farming nodes.

[@i4npunz64]

Yeah which brings up another good feature that one should consider when rolling: content. JP probably not so much, but NA players can now have a better visual of how to prep for future content and have the best QoL based on what servants they use. Especially for significant events that gives good resources. Important especially in a game where farming is major factor.

[@kamasammohana9697]

np 2 caren w/ double skadi, oberon and BG can clear the node without needing any face cards!!

[@Flaris]

We'll have to see what happens. But it is a bit troublesome. Let's face it. When it comes to lotto or lotto-like events people want and need some consistency. And having characters that can handle a lot of content lets people free up their quartz for personal picks. But if they take this the wrong way it may force rolling on a lot of different farming solutions or yeah some omni-farming single target. Maybe they'll steady things out and not take it too far. But we'll have to see.

[@akifa2465]

Literally first world problems

[@PocketChalk]

Just use my Level 120 NP5 1580 Gold Fou'ed Sei Zerker I NEED FRIEND POINTS PLUSHIE

[@RandomRiku]

I honestly wouldn't call it anti-arts looping as much as I would call it anti-aoe loops. I wonder if we're going to see better ways of looping Quick or if we just go unga bunga and loop Buster for memes

[@hectorgregorio95]

Yeah ST farming servants need to play catchup with AoE. Last event Faker was my god an savior since I dont have Hokusai on jp and this event my np2 grailed max fou Morgan is coming clutch with face cards vs BB (love you koyan and oberon) With musashi, spishtar, kama and now ibuki we have enough Aoe arts SSR (without counting welfares like Ranmaru, Taisui and Iyo). Buster has Morgan and Arjuna and now quick has Rikyu, wouldnt mind better loopers on quick but i would rather get a budget support

[@anonjohn9760]

No need for apologies mate, this was a nice and insightful video. Personally, I'm not too beat up over this future trend, since I'm both in NA (and therefore have plenty of time to prepare) and don't mind simply sticking to less frustrating nodes if I can't clear them in a reasonable timeframe. Doesn't hurt that I got all the ST DPS and assorted Crit monsters to have a blast with these types of pseudo raid too.

[@アンシュ-e9k]

You can two turn the 90++ mission 90% of the time with the following comp - Hijikata + Sanzou + Assassin Tamamo + Assassin Tamamo with any switch-in mystic code. With that being said, this mission is pretty insane compared to the events before this.

[@xenoemblem7]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see 3-turn clear as an essential thing that every player has to do. I am one of those people that quite enjoy using face cards

[@dindapriskanurfitriani3988]

May, not just you. I enjoy doing face cards, especially in these kind of nodes. Even more now that I'm testing to farm with account restrictions.

[@munteanurodica2252]

I dont feel good about it. Imo. Especially if they increase the drops and somehow make it mandatory to farm. But then again. I just half-ass events and get the bare minimum. I guess these nodes will make me farm even less and only focus on doable lottos. Good thing I am a veteran. So I can pick and choose what events to even bother farming.

[@PlushieMistress]

Its never mandatory, as ive mentioned unless its a lotto event it barely makes any difference. Even as a lotto 90+ isnt far behind in terms of drops.

[@munteanurodica2252]

@@PlushieMistress Is it like lets say a 10% difference in drops? If it is more then yikes. If it is only this much, then its no problem.

[@dramaturgy845]

@@munteanurodica2252 i think its just abt 10% or less Since theres like mostly a 10 drops which doesnt really change much and for a harder quest, for f2p players that doesnt have much luck, it is pretty much not worth to farm them since it will take longer Also even for veteran players Most needs a bg for it so you will be take a spot for your event ce So its kinda better to do the 90+ nodes since more space = more slots for ce Also btw iyo the welfare is pretty good for the farming node

[@TheAnaz41745]

@@munteanurodica2252 If we use the current event nodes then: - Lv90+ average 35 tea drops(3 per drop) - Lv90++ average 40 tea drops(3 per drop) So running a 6CE setup in lv90+ will give you (3+6) * 35 = 315 total tea While running 5CE setup in lv90++ will give you (3+5) * 40 = 320 total tea They're comparable even when you get to the max bonus drop of +10~12 So if you can manage to do 6CE run in the 90++ node, you'll get the most amount of drops but only an extra 40 or so drops compared to doing it with 5CE. Honestly, it's not that big of an increase unless you really want that maximum drop and sacrifice the consistency a BG provide

[@munteanurodica2252]

@@TheAnaz41745 Eh, I am not that of a min-maxer. I dont even have a top tier arts np looper. Besides soon I will go for the double DPS route with 2 non-event CEs to 3turn. So I guess I will be sticking to the 90+ nodes, if it isnt such a loss.

[@tsui1024]

Oberon has always been better than Koyan. He allows for a lot of BS that you simply can't do without him

[@yoshaaq]

5:24 draco foreshadowing?

[@agearmaster1]

Im using the welfare to farm the event. But i need a castoria np and Oberon. :/

[@ishigamiryu5689]

"Explaining how koyan light is more valuable than him" Unsub

[@ravensaurer2315]

I like the concept of single target 90++ nodes; using Summer Hokusai was really fun for the last event and possibly other servants that don't see much use outside of the occasional challenge quests. But the 1mil HP requirement is way too harsh imo without a damage CE, I've had to give up on farming the 90++ node this event.

[@m.ppanca5057]

at least its still 1-1-1 and 1-2 node, but who knows maybe the nightmarish 2/3-2/3-1 with variant class will appear in the future

[@MagicalGirlContractor]

YESSS MY KING. RISE IN POWER MY SAD ANGSTY BUG BOY!!!!!!!!

[@uselesshero.official]

Actually there have been two convertible ST servants: Summer Barghest and Ptolemy...😅

[@bajs3493]

they literally give u an arts looping wellfare that can 3t the node in this event

[@thatoneguy2242]

Oberon and Kriemhild eating good

[@AmenoHoshizora]

My lvl 100 Izou is absolutely killing this node, never thought I would be able to use him for farming instead of just boss killer

[@lyudmiltsekov8557]

I think the issue is that people are too used to the "3 turn farm" set ups and are somewhat unwilling to swap it off. We are not starved out of Single Target SR and SSR, but usually they are delegated to boss killers....

[@alainblandi2885]

Both 90++ nodes were quite different, i don't think it's going to be one specific way, they might keep changing it to keep the meta fresh. I used to think that my account had anything i needed, but now i might need to go after a few more ST servants in some classes i don't do particularly well, and that's interesting. Also, as long as the 90+ nodes continue being decent options, i think it's fine to have absurd 90++ ones.

[@dramaturgy845]

Im really enjoying these 90++ nodes since they are quite unique Having playing for a year and finishing the story I want some challenges and these ones are a great excuse to use some of my 4 stars and 5 star that i dont really use much like da vinci ruler And nowadays im able to use my kintoki Hopefully next will be archers so my bryn can do it

[@GeorgeMonet]

They are terrible.

[@El_Leviatan]

How odd, I'm using the new ruler welfare servant with a non-limit broken black grail and I can one shot both waves, I would complain about not being able to efficiently farm this final node if there were absolutely no options but at least in my case after testing my servants I found the one that works, a free servant nonetheless, and I can farm without a problem.

[@Makiosaa]

As someone who has 2 years to strengthen my account and is already working on a 120 Luvia, this is an absolute win.

[@uzumakiyuuki3454]

Wow, what is this ruler is doing more dmg than ibuki?!!!bruh....

[@derangedluke8146]

For this node they clearly had in mind Iyo with class advantage and her 100% damage bonus since they decided to not have an event damage bonus CE this time

[@agearmaster1]

She farms it well but you need oberon or castoria np before her.

[@SpaceAndyx]

You are supposed to use Lyo. They usually give you a tool to handle difficult nodes in the events, like event DMG CEs. In this case Lyo. It hasn't really changed much and all metas are still the same. It's not a Oberon check or X servant check.

[@poijutt7926]

I mean, Oberon is way more important to the clear than she is. Her name is Iyo btw

[@madearjuna4793]

But even when using Iyo, oberon is needed to reach 2 turn easily

[@arivald6677]

How much Damage can you get with Santa Quetzalcoatl? Maybe she's the easy answer to that BB 2 rounder.

[@keyros3036]

hmmmm, agree~

[@joypanchal5753]

Ibuki got booted so quickly 😂

[@AloyImpact]

This is why I love my Discouri, Sigurd, Saber Diramund. Salter Rider. Beautiful single Target damage

[@AloyImpact]

@@ezeks2440 true but for me personally I just prefer Single Target Servants. Like ST don’t get really moment In the spot light it’s always wave clearers.

[@AloyImpact]

@@ezeks2440 man I wish I had played around the time Kintoki was attainable

[@Luca-yb4sh]

I don't know if I'd call it "anti-arts" system, I'm using Luvia and archer Artoria to farm the current node. I'd say anti-AOE, which in itself is not bad, as ST servants were close to useless. However, I think the 90++ should be limited to non heavy farming events with a dmg CE. That is unquestionable. So, this is not an appropriate event for 90++.

[@WiseKingOfMemes]

Just a question do this node can be cleared with a non mlb BG?

[@dramaturgy845]

Ye I did it with kintoki and iyo Though i did have oberon

[@watashielshaeddo5454]

yes i tried nmlb black grail (60% instead of 80%) double castoria and 1 oberon using the welfare servant and it does very well. i was able to 2 turn using the atk and np+ up master skill , and before i np using welfare on wave 2, i would have the castorias using their np first. So on wave 1 you can np using 1 castoria before welfare np, then wave 2, 2nd castoria np then welfare np. My castoria is np 1. My friend castoria is also np 1.

[@larrycap2946]

Yes With astraea atleast at np2 or with Iyo while using the np of the 2 castorias You still need oberon tho

[@spacejungler8469]

Great ideas come in the shower

[@GeorgeJames-e3d]

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[@ricardobujedo7880]

And take a comp with (Merlin + Arash with NP charged to 50~60) OR (Proto merlin + Chen Gong with NP charged to 50~60) and in the first turn charge the NP of Arash or Chen Gong remove the first phase and in the second with the Mystic Code (Chaldea Combat Uniform ) change Chen Gong or Merlin for a support of any side and a single targert dps. As an example Merlin | Arash | Vlad III [Castoria | Castoria | x], in the first round I use Merlin to charge Arash to cast NP and in the second phase I change Merlin for a Castoria and buff Vlad III the 2 castorias.

[@shikiyama]

ive had issues with this 90++ as well but i found a semi consistant way to farm it with sen no rikyu and my level 120 np5 arcueid on occasion i still have to rely on face cards on wave 1 but rikyu and arc in combo is basically guaranteed to 1 shot BB so im still gaming

[@NguyenNguyen-ec7eq]

I'm thinking of that will they make 90++ node with mobs with just 20 - 30k but with 100% damage resistance like that Siegfried fight in Nerofest. Can Angry Mango poster girl farming be a viable choice?

[@LesEnfants1972]

5:00 That’s completely misinformation there. The latest ST SSR is Super Bunyan. Not those 2. And for those that’s looking for a universal ST looper, maybe they should stop burning Berserker Vlad. The dude does good damage.

[@telluranskate8]

ngl, looking at this now, Olga unironically can turn into this omni farmer sorta if her np is ST

[@kuri16]

I just deal with BB with the ff: Musashi (Saber) (Her overcharge has bonus damage vs AEs and MCs) Two Koyanskayas of Light. One is a support ofc. My own Koyan has a Kscope 5 Oberon with the event CE(Skill 3 not even at lvl 10 but it's doable) Activating all skills except Koyan S1 when I see 2 buster Musashi cards on wave 1 Try to kill Ocha Nobu at wave 2 to get Musashi's cards on cooldown for a turn All buffs on Musashi except for Oberon S2 which is used on himself. Triple NP Buster Chain (Koyan, Oberon, Musashi)

[@CaitCU]

I actually managed to successfully 2-3 turn full ce with Douman,BB(summer),and Van Gogh+Koyanskaya of the light.You will be getting about 250k-400k damage on each buster card from bb because of the Sheer amount of massive Crit buffs.I could upload a video for demonstration if anybody is interested.

[@EsterhKB]

I love beating up BB with Martha Ruler, It feels like a throwback to Fate/Extra CCC Event Release. 5 Years ago.

[@Sb142sf]

Plushie forgot his words in this video when he made his recent “koyan is higher priority” video

[@abbashashem9289]

I dont maybe I'm wrong but this event with the 2 waves and no damage ce card They were forcing u a little to use iyo I use 2 castoria iyo , Oberon set you ( black grail ) and finish it with 2 turns

[@orzorzelski1142]

Looks like another wave of powercreep might be coming. Also, looking back at how awkward some farming nodes were in the past, as well as how faming in general gets tedious really fast this is a dicc move by lasagna. Need more money for yet another anime, huh?

[@kameoosama]

*90++ kills arts looping* Nah but like, this is gonna be great for squirtle, for Lancer Scathach, for this 120 Martha Ruler I'm working on, etc. We might see nodes you wanna take soloists like Suoer Orion to.

[@mauriciochena8621]

I think its fun I use Vlad III np 2 with Castoria, Tamamo and Oberon to beat it, I had the append NP 1 in Vlad so I have 100 NP first turn to have 50 in the next (with Black Grial) and thats it i clear it in 2T if the same turn I have a arts cart of him

[@kun2588]

Yeah, I think the age of AE servant dominance is coming to an end. The term "Omnifarmer" is going to be extinct. Personally, I see the future of farming lies with event bonus servants, rather than wholely ST servants.

[@LuisRamirez-hw6vm]

thanks that for this Event the Free SR Iyo can manage to do this in 2T if you have Oberon, but it´s ok if you can do it in 3T

[@luart732]

I knew this was gonna be a thing since ibuki douji came out with such a overloaded set of skills, "just effing overload her, ST nods are way better now". The only way to confirm this now is to wait for the lostbelt Best farming spots, of course ibuki has a lot of use, but c'mon, an aoe arts berserker that outshines summer musashi, coming out at the same Time as the first 90++ single target nod, saw that coming from the space (?) Of course, if you love ibuki that's totally fine, but I can't stop seeing this as the most "it's way too good to be real" moment on FGO. AND yes, sorry if my english sucks.

[@sanjeevsinghrajput5593]

I've been using Iyo with Oberon and 1 Castoria but she still leaves BB at like 300K HP and goes to sleep herself so it takes me like 7-8 more turns for the node 😔

[@manydoorsedboy6579]

So Pretender is just Alter Ego for the Knight class? Got it.

[@dramaturgy845]

Im wondering whether the welfare can predict what the 90++ node will be from then on if without a event damage ce I counted the summer event out since it has a damage ce power mod

[@gabsterrivera5674]

It's weird that I am F2P in JP since I started my account there from the Arctic World event, and somehow it felt more rewarding for me rather than having more difficulties when it comes to event farming irregular nodes with ludicrous HPs

[@tribopower]

As long as drop rates are good and worth the effort I don't mind, but I must say new players are kinda screw, nodes nowadays work with the intention of you having your dps at lvl 100+ (which is why it's called 90++ but they don't want to straighten up admit it)

[@ShadowAraun]

can Echan tackle this node? I feel like I can easily hit 1m+ with her np in many situations.

[@polux1092]

space ishtar stays winning

[@Don_Momoringo]

not so sure bout that with the over inflated hp from the 90++ node

[@O550Sn94]

For the 90++? Nope. She ain't winning since ST servants will likely be better for this mission.

[@frogking307]

I’ve been using my sanzang to farm this node. Absolutely murders bb.

[@lacie8080]

I've found quick comps with summer Skadi to be really fun for these nodes, especially when the current SSR with trait damage is quick. I go with S.Skadi over OG in favor of more NP damage despite Koma's triple Q (but I'm at NP2). Nonetheless it's still reliant on normal cards without BG, so more 90% 2T guarantee than 100%.

[@สหวัชจองพาณิชย์เจริญ-ว8ฝ]

So... Black grail era is coming ? Wait. We already in bg era for far too long .