FGU Lighting and Vision More Advanced Features Demo

[@TimothyHannon]

So are we just not gonna talk about that new, sexy sidebar action? Sooo coooooollll.....

[@VyrilGaming]

I'm a new DM, with all new players. I'm excited to get this in our adventures to really get the new players experiencing the "need" for torches and darkvision etc.

[@ManoChannelTuNelysk]

I tried it out on the dev channel yesterday...so cool to get my hands on it and I bet that my players will love thise when I bring lighting into our campaign.

[@Randomhiker]

With this addition fantasy grounds satisfies everything I need completely. I've always struggled with the idea that a character with no darkvision can see what a with darkvision character can. So many options for a tool this powerful. You have outdone yourselves thank you thank you

[@FantasyGrounds]

It definitely increases the value of darkvision immensely.

[@eimor_music]

This is awesome! Can't wait! You guys add that extra thing that other platforms that i try don't have. Is really worth the waiting! Ty!

[@neilhewitson1617]

I like the easy that you can change the effects on a token. Very cool.

[@chaldus87]

It is in the test channel. Thanks a lot, you guys at SW are awesome 👌

[@ungainlytitan1460]

Really looking forward to it

[@Pyro-Pica]

Can't wait for this to come out :)

[@Brandonien]

It's out in the test channel now!

[@Pyro-Pica]

@@Brandonien I had just looked in the discord to see the post, though i'm running a few games with new players so I'm going to forgo testing this out for the time being as i'm not the most tech savvy

[@Brandonien]

@@Pyro-Pica :P I've been running a campaign for nearly a year and my players have gone from FGC to FGU and FREQUENTLY switch between channels.. XD It can be a headache but I like playing with new features.

[@skellan9702]

I predict a run on the sale of nightvision goggles

[@bobcasale3241]

This looks great. Any chance that the fog of war effect can get a slider or option to adjust how dark it is?

[@FantasyGrounds]

We might consider making this a setting that can be adjusted.

[@sarge1233]

@@FantasyGrounds that would be great . It's hard to let players who don't have dark vision know they can't see things that are farther away

[@henriqueoliveiramachado8763]

Holy fucking nice. Just in time for my birthday s2 Love you guys. Best money i've ever spent

[@mrlicopoli]

Happy birthday!

[@henriqueoliveiramachado8763]

@@mrlicopoli oh thank you bro.

[@morgannoggareth]

Read on the title "Lighting and vison more advanced feature" means i have to push LIKE instant!

[@ashakawise]

Super!

[@SenorGato237]

Pulsing red and flashing purple lights? Looks like someone tripped the alarm there chummer, better get that nova hot decker of yours on it. Else we're in deep drek.

[@SammyElal]

This is so nice. Will the light state be able to influence combat effects. Eg. add miss chance or disadvantage in dim light for hitting monsters and vice versa?

[@FantasyGrounds]

We don't currently have any plans for that level of automation, but you never know what the future holds.

[@johneccleston4707]

Hi, looks great, but I noticed one flaw. When you were playing around with shadows, at timepoint 2:30, I noticed that on the bottom building the area with the door did not cast any shadow. Even if it is open, it should still cast shadow as threre is probably a roof.

[@DougDavison]

good catch. We fixed this in an earlier version, but it looks like the bug has returned.

[@rouecherossilouis1155]

That's amazing, when will we have the update ? i want it so much

[@FantasyGrounds]

It is in our TEST channel now for people to play with if they want. You can switch to TEST in the Settings under the Advanced tab. Just run an Update after switching and make sure players and GMs are all on the same channel.

[@rogueDND]

Hi, Could I add an effect for a specific lighting color too or that feature can only be controlled by using token lighting?

[@danherve8172]

Is there a window mask that will let the ambient lighting into structures?

[@mzamna]

Seems great, I love the posibilities this since before using it, and don't want to seems too picky, but is it planned to have support for Devils sight, or similar abilities, that can see trough darkness but are not true seeing (wich i saw present in the video)

[@FantasyGrounds]

Currently we just have devilsight set to truesight. There is a current limit on the total # of vision sets we can support without negatively affecting performance. We will keep looking at it based on the benefits versus impact.

[@AndresGarcia-wu6oi]

Could you link the Wiki reference in your video description?

[@theolddm]

This is good stuff. A quick question: For the individual lights, does the flicker affect only the source itself, or will it cause the 'light radius' to flicker as well? I wasn't seeing the flicker very well in this video, so I was just wondering how visually impacting the flicker really is? I'm thinking of a campfire in the woods at night... the light can bright and dim pretty dramatically, so I'm hoping this can produce a similar effect and not just be a static circle of light that fades out.

[@FantasyGrounds]

It's a subtle effect. it doesn't really affect the bright and dim radius that I'm aware of.

[@ungainlytitan1460]

When is planned to be released?

[@Brandonien]

It's on the TEST channel

[@ungainlytitan1460]

@@Brandonien I gathered that but was wondering if there was any timeline for final release.

[@FantasyGrounds]

@@ungainlytitan1460 April 1st

[@Andrewc87563]

Looks great! Any chance for a light and vision button under the effects tab so I can quickly find the lights effects?

[@RediculouslyUnder]

Curious for clarification... You're asking about a 'pre-set' effect button to make 'effects' that control lighting, or about a button in the effects window which opens some kind of lighting effect options window?

[@Andrewc87563]

@@RediculouslyUnder A button under effects so I can quickly filter a list of vision options darkvision 60' darkvision 120', lamp 5' so I can quickly find these and drag into the combat tracker to apply lighting effect to PC and NPC, For example they just got true sight spell applied. Also would the statement darkvision 60' red; make the fire genasi darkvision tinted red.

[@luizhdcosta]

Are we going to have a way to add Darkness in the map? Like adding an area that will be complete darkness and override the light sources (like the Darkness spell).

[@FantasyGrounds]

Yes, you can add a light and choose Darkness instead. It is a checkbox on the Add Light tab.

[@B0ldtaar]

Anyway to set up a cone shaped light source like from a modern flashlights?

[@FantasyGrounds]

Not yet. It has been talked about but no final decision has been made.

[@AJBernard]

That's pretty epic! Is there any talk of limiting darkvision to a range of, say, 60 ft, like you limit the candle / torch? It's the same effect (in 5e, at least) with darkvision being good sight to 60 and poor to 120, I think.

[@FantasyGrounds]

Yes, it can be limited the same way. The effect is called VISION: 60 darkvision

[@AJBernard]

@@FantasyGrounds Thank you!!

[@gamereaperoz]

Will you be able to add an option for 3.5e/PF1e low-light vision (i.e. double the effectiveness of light-sources for characters)

[@DougDavison]

We don’t have a solution for low-light vision yet.

[@jasonshortt7]

When will lighting be available for AD&D 2e for all us grognards?

[@FantasyGrounds]

Once it is pushed to live but we have no ETA yet.

[@lostsanityreturned]

Any chance of us getting dynamic token shading? (Tokens shaded by light or desaturated if in darkness with darkvision on).

[@tripledippedorange1538]

I had a pc with blind vision out to 60 ft anychance there is a seperate vision limit for each pc?

[@DougDavison]

Yes, it is per PC it NPC token. See the video in vision.

[@chris_carrigan]

My players all have Moon-touched Swords. Is there a way to add a light effect to a piece of equipment?

[@DougDavison]

My suggestion is to add an effect for each player that you can turn on or off depending on whether or not the sword is out and radiating light. You can read about these on our wiki here: fantasygroundsunity.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FGCP/pages/1312784387/Adding+Lights+to+Maps+and+Tokens#Adding-a-Token-Light-Using-an-Effect-(Recommended)

[@chris_carrigan]

@@DougDavison thanks - that's done. Is there code for getting the lovely Bright, Dim Fade effects available on token lights, the wiki implies effects in just a hard circle.

[@FantasyGrounds]

@@chris_carrigan you can do this by editing and creating your own custom preset and then use the name of the preset in your effect

[@chris_carrigan]

@@FantasyGrounds Brilliant - Done.

[@TheRealDarkSpoon]

Is there a way to add our own presets? Also with the darkness option, does, devil sight see through it?

[@FantasyGrounds]

We will be adding another video on token vision settings. It picks up our supported options from the character sheet or NPC automatically, but we support normal vision, darkvision, blindsight and truesight. We don't have a way to add other presets at this time.

[@jrock-hk7rm]

Will cone lighting be introduced at go-live?

[@FantasyGrounds]

It is not planned at go-live. Maybe in the future.

[@phodal37]

Any ETA for this going live?

[@FantasyGrounds]

We have no ETA yet.

[@Shannovian]

Question: would it cause issue to put a clean-coloured torch at the entrance to buildings and structures, so ambient sunlight spills into, for example, that shack, when the door is opened?

[@FantasyGrounds]

Potentially, but whether or not you wanted to do that would also depend on the direction of the sun. If the building is backlit, then it would be in shadow still.

[@Shannovian]

@@FantasyGrounds Do players have limited visiblity in the dark? Like if I open the shed, would I be able to see shadowed interiors up to 5 or 10 feet? Because, I take your point, but light bounces off walls and even if the light isn't directly pointed in that direction (however, yes, you're absolutely right about that in relation to my point). If I open a shed, even in the dark, I can generally see a rough outline of things in my immediate area. Yes, I wouldn't want that to be the case for inside caves. But surely is for areas directly adjacent to direct sunlight. I'm not being critical; this look fantastic. I'm just doing the mental gymnastics to figure out how it will work in practical application for buildings that might have windows or cracks in the wall that would let ambient light in without having it look like it's exposed to direct sunlight.

[@FantasyGrounds]

@@Shannovian players don't have any visibility in the dark without darkvision. If you have a map where it would not be totally dark, you could set an ambient light that is very low and then use an effect to cap the max distance players could see. That might work for your needs.

[@Shannovian]

@@FantasyGrounds Neat idea, thanks.

[@RediculouslyUnder]

I haven't tested this myself, but it stands to reason that one could achieve the same effect by using a 'darkness' light (or several small ones) inside of a 'shaded' area (such as inside the cabin). One would presumably also have control over the translucency of the light (in the Alpha value of the 'color' setting) to control how light or dark it would be in the shaded area.

[@danherve8172]

Does lighting not hide the rat token?

[@FantasyGrounds]

It is hidden for players and just grayed out fir the GM.

[@shalafichg1]

how can we use this features?, I understand that is not ready yet, but... can we use in dev mode before release?

[@DougDavison]

You can go into your Settings and switch to the TEST channel on the Advanced Tab. Your players need to be in TEST as well. Please note that the current build has some significant performance issues we are working out. TEST also uses a different data format than LIVE, so you won't be able to move a campaign from TEST to LIVE if you switch back. I would recommend starting a brand new test campaign in the TEST branch so that you don't affect your actual LIVE campaigns. Once it leaves TEST and goes into full production on our LIVE channel, you will be able to use your old LIVE campaigns without issue.

[@shalafichg1]

@@DougDavison Ohh , thnx , i went DEV but now in TEST works fine. Waiting the final release. One more question: can I prepare a campaign in TEST and change it in the release update to LIVE?

[@fmaho3139]

how will this be handled with the vision types for PF 2e?

[@FantasyGrounds]

PF 2E vision types handle the supported vision types as well. We map greater darkvision to truesight though, because it is the closest approximation.

[@fmaho3139]

@@FantasyGrounds fantastic!

[@hookanthem7098]

Noob question: When/ how do I get these to use in my game?

[@FantasyGroundsAcademy]

Not implemented just yet.

[@FantasyGrounds]

@@FantasyGroundsAcademy you can test it out in our TEST channel if the GM and players all switch to the TEST channel.

[@baddiemcbadbad9231]

All I want is for the fog of war to be revealed based on the tokens vision

[@FantasyGrounds]

It is on the test server so it should be here in the near future.

[@MachineTeen]

I was hoping this would be in now.... sad now. =( Just checked.

[@FantasyGrounds]

It is in the TEST channel. We want people to play around with it there for a few weeks before we move it over to LIVE.

[@MachineTeen]

@@FantasyGrounds Yeah I know. Just can't wait to use it myself. =)

[@HabiburRahman-kl1gk]

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