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@sgtcrab2569 Жыл бұрын
You never spill beer on a violin.
@llud4th2 жыл бұрын
so the sacrilegious boy has a 24karat gold fiddle? xD
@hiroku182 жыл бұрын
Maybe. But he got nasa chips too.
@christopherreilly53392 жыл бұрын
And his soul too.
@EndMC2 жыл бұрын
I n t e r e s t I n g
@juliekrizkova85842 жыл бұрын
🤔
@eesr2 жыл бұрын
I N T E R E S T I N G
@taurotar2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of confusion about the the words "fiddle" and "violin." They are both essentially violins although "fiddles" can differ in a number of minor modifications from the Classical violin, namely the bridge which can be flatter in order to facilitate double stops with more ease. More often, the term "fiddle" refers to techniques and styles in playing various world folk traditions. The word comes to English from its Dutch and German cognates, "vedel/ fiedel" and "vielle" in French. The vielle was the medieval period bowed fiddle. Prior to the 2nd millenium, bowed instruments were virtually unknown in western Europe with possible exceptions of the Crwth. It is believed by most musicologists that the Byzantine lira, a bowed instrument, made its way to western Europe via the Crusades, along with a number of other types of instruments such as the Persian santoor (western Hammered Dulcimer) and the rebab which lead to the medieval rebec. The vielle was replaced by the viol family during The Renaissance and early violins were produced in Italy by about 100 years after the viols. Initially, violins were played more as folk instruments and it was not until the likes of Arcangelo Corelli and Antonio Vivavldi that violins were elevated to higher stature and eclipsed the use of viols although the viol da gamba continued in use through most of the Baroque era.
@LeekowalskiWalker Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@taurotar Жыл бұрын
@@LeekowalskiWalker You're obviously a troll. People such as you who say "wrong" without poffering an alternative explanation are the biggest dumb asses in the world.
@taurotar Жыл бұрын
@@LeekowalskiWalker Go away
@LeekowalskiWalker Жыл бұрын
That won’t make you any less wrong.
@lonniepaulson7031 Жыл бұрын
For fiddles I play both the violin and the viola. I see a lot of comments by people below that were confused over your video. One asked that you should have played both the fiddle and the violin so they could hear the difference in sound. You showed a five string violin which is handy when you want to play in the same register as the viola, but someone said in your comments, Not all violins have five strings. That person didn't know that the violin has four strings unless you want to buy a violin specifically with five strings so you can play the notes the viola plays. Another comment was someone writing as if he was of some authority telling who ever would read his post that "the violin has a slightly larger body and often the strings are tuned to a lower pitch. The fiddle, on the other hand, is smaller with higher pitched strings. In addition, violins have deeper ribs that help produce fuller sound while fiddles have shallower ribs that allow for more projection." But I can speak with authority since I have been playing the violin since 1963. Fiddle is a word used as a slang for the violin. A fiddle is a violin and a violin is a fiddle. When one plays folk, country, blue grass or a type of genre of music that is not classical they will call that music "fiddle music" and may refer to their violin as a fiddle. Some musicians that play fiddle music will file their bridge down so they can chord all four strings at once. This makes it impossible to play individual strings. They have an additional violin so they can play individual strings. Both musicians of classical and fiddle music may have a luthier do changes on their instrument for a different sound. I JUST WANT EVERYONE to know that a fiddle is NOT a specific instrument. It is a slang word for a violin. "Fiddle" is a genre of music not an instrument.
@jaronbryant3944 Жыл бұрын
Well said sir! Congratulations on 59 years!!
@mscraig514711 ай бұрын
Very nicely put. 100% agreed, and very easily puts the endless and confusing debate to rest. Thank you.
@henryblackfish4339 Жыл бұрын
If there are beer stains on the instrument it's a fiddle. Otherwise, it's a violin.
@Twallrion2 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, this is actually a very good video, and a great explanation. You should do more videos on the violin, I'd watch them
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! I'll definitely take you up on that in the future!
@Twallrion2 жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 you may, I've subscribed to your channel
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
@@Twallrion Many thanks! What kind of videos would you like to see? (Just out of curiosity)
@Twallrion2 жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 you're welcome. I'm fairly new to the violin, I'm a adult beginner. So I'm facinated by the most simple things. I loved the facts and history. I do find great enjoyment out of those play along videos on KZbin, that might score you a couple views, they seem to be popular
@Twallrion2 жыл бұрын
At my music school there are several people who told me that they, just like me, picked up the violin during corona times, because they always wanted it and were scared, but started with a really cheap one and online tutorials. Only to realise that it was a waste of money, they loved it, and joined the school and got a decent violin
@christopherreilly53392 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the clarification. I always wondered what the difference was. I have always been a big fan of the fiddle as opposed to the violin.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
(Me too secretly 😂) but I respect the skill that it takes to play both. Definitely two different skill sets!
@christopherreilly53392 жыл бұрын
Never thought drinking Chardonay vs Drinking Moonshine was a skill set. I accept your challenge sir. I will get back to you when I find my bagpipes.
@spowers6783 жыл бұрын
Good explanation!!! I just wish I could have heard you play the fiddle!!!
@dingdingkuo82832 жыл бұрын
Wanna listen to the what sound the fiddle makes, too
@isaiahmarquez97179 ай бұрын
Very instructive. Thank you.
@DieterLo12 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Started 3 months ago with violin. Did know nothing about that instrument, but meantime listened to many KZbin Videos. And more and more I am fascinated about that instrument and also history! Thanks for your video! Greetings from Germany! !
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to meet you sir! Violin is an extraordinary instrument, and I wish you all the best in learning!!
@christatler73782 жыл бұрын
The difference between a fiddle and a violin is a fiddle has had beer spilt on it.
@revoakes89842 жыл бұрын
Interesting. When I was a young violin student (50's) of a professional/teacher/conductor, I was taught that the difference was mostly the placement of the sound post of the fiddle vs the violin. I think that a different bridge might have been mentioned, but never anything about how it was played particularly, just the difference in resonance and tone caused by the altered placement of the sound post. It's certain that the square dancing fiddler's tone, when I attended those, was quite different from that produced by any of the violinists I knew, more intense, tending to be a bit harsher, less rich and full. Ditto the sound of a country fiddler as seen on TV etc. This teacher was quite able to improvise freely, and even sometimes did acrobatics while playing. He had a Guarnerius violin, btw.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
That’s so cool! Thank you for sharing!!
@Floweroftheprairie2720 Жыл бұрын
I loved learning this! Ty
@RockReynolds2 жыл бұрын
Good video. A difference I describe, between Classical and Fiddle, is that Classical is "sit and listen" music, while fiddle was originally, and still is, highly focused towards dance (audience "participation" maybe?).
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Yeah! That’s a great perspective!
@RockReynolds2 жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 Jason, I find it extremely "interesting", that "violins" just "popped up out of NOWHERE" (Cremona), with an ALREADY PERFECT DESIGN (Stradivari and Guarnari tweaked it a little). How'd that happen??? And whoever thought of "purfling"??? Who could even think of that? Jason, I consider the biggest musical tragedy in history, to be "violins to fifth graders" (I was a victim!). Since Eighth Grade, 55 years ago, I have overcome my disdain for fiddle, and now I LOVE IT. I play Old-time fiddle now. I have fiddle videos on KZbin, but don't watch any of 'em, because I'm getting ready to UPGRADE my sound, and post new videos. I have heard Old-time fiddle, played with Classical precision, AND a "Hillbilly Beat". It sounds AWESOME. I have developed a new approach to fiddling (new mechanics and 'tude), that I intend to publish on KZbin in the near future. My objective is a sound I call "Classical Hillbilly". Rock
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
@@RockReynolds that’s incredible!! I wish you the best dude! I’m excited to see what your approach is!
@Mossy-Rock2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info! Doesn't a fiddle usually have a flatter bridge than a violin? Mine does. I was told that this facilitates double-stopping (i.e., playing two strings at once) - your arm doesn't have to rise and fall as much when switching strings.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
That might be true! Now I’m curious! I wonder if fiddlers switched out the traditional bridges for flatter ones at some point!!
@jdoracing7030 Жыл бұрын
I've played fiddle for well over 15 years with a 'violin' styled bridge, double stopping with ease... The difference between fiddle & violin is how much booze you can handle and still play haha
@janach13052 жыл бұрын
If you tap your foot while you play, it’s a fiddle. If you don’t, it’s a violin.
@chiron14pl Жыл бұрын
In between the rebec and the violin are the family of viols, which are probably the closest ancestors to violin, viola, cello, and bass
@ungrateful-66 Жыл бұрын
thanks for being so translucent… either way, my dad must’ve bought wrong one forgetting i’m the blind but never deaf one …
@kaito93472 жыл бұрын
INTERESTING!!!!
@Hotdogwater4212 жыл бұрын
They are the same instrument just how you play it. It’s in the bow. I don’t even play. But I have eyes. The violin side the bow is on the bottom part of the string. Fiddle it’s set in the middle and you don’t left off much just how you feeling and the sound you are getting or know. It’s simple to understand hard to do. And I’m about to buy one. Haha
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Have fun learning!!!
@gavinthegamer79672 жыл бұрын
Since when has violin had 5 strings
@bobbymcloughlin345211 ай бұрын
They Are Both Fiddles A Violin is a Variety of Size For Viols like a Viola Da Gamba These of What You Have Are Versatile (Light) That You Can Dance Around
@tomsmart19702 жыл бұрын
I've heard many highly accomplished players of serious, composed music refer to their priceless instrument as "my fiddle" (Itzhak Perlman," to name just one). And I've heard many far less accomplished players of vernacular and improvised music refer to their cheap instrument as "my violin" (me, for one). My answer to the question, "Fiddle vs. Violin: What's the Difference," is this. "Fiddle" is an older English word that applies to bowed instruments in general (e.g., "bass fiddle"), while "violin" is a more recent Italian word that applies to a very specific design and size of fiddles.
@JustFiddler2 жыл бұрын
violin is singing ... fiddle is dancing
@WilsonTaylor2 жыл бұрын
The violin has a slightly larger body and often the strings are tuned to a lower pitch. The fiddle, on the other hand, is smaller with higher pitched strings. In addition, violins have deeper ribs that help produce fuller sound while fiddles have shallower ribs that allow for more projection.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but are you possibly thinking of a Viola? It is larger, and is tuned CGDA rather than the GDAE of a Violin.
@twistknit12 жыл бұрын
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@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
@@twistknit1 great example! Thanks for sharing!!
@dogguy86032 жыл бұрын
And you can use a fiddle to win against the devil in a fiddle contest
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
@@dogguy8603 🙌🏻
@edenbarker73852 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I love it. Keep it up
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnsavard75832 жыл бұрын
This video was missing something. I would have liked you to have played the violin and the fiddle you showed us, so we could hear the difference for ourselves.
@Kira36k2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Very succinct.
@AlenbtgMepstoen Жыл бұрын
I was playing fiddle when string broke. I changed it and continued playing violin. However they all liked how fiddle sounded so I left violin and played fiddle. Still by night when no one hears, I enjoy violin playing. Got it? 😜
@jaronbryant3944 Жыл бұрын
What a roller coaster!! Whichever you decide to play, I hope you love it! 😂
@AlenbtgMepstoen Жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 I do very much, because I play both!
@sdeery2 жыл бұрын
The difference ? Never seen a beer spilled on a violin before.
@MrJ-zs2ew8 ай бұрын
A violin sings A fiddle dances
@tedgibson5960 Жыл бұрын
i care not to play one! but i love music & love learning about music! this was a good one fer ya!!!
@AZZAMNO1 Жыл бұрын
They played us like damn fiddle
@Adrian_AdamViolonDiGerma-tm3nq8 ай бұрын
Fiddle and violin is just different class, different genre, different playing. Fiddle is a violin in a village, violin is inba konzerthaus. It's annoying if someone call a violin as a fiddle, Paganini fiddle concerto?
@goatslunch6991 Жыл бұрын
Gee, imagine if someone could actually demonstrate the 2 styles by say picking up and instrument and playing it in the 2 styles. If only you had access to said instruments.
@jaronbryant3944 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t demonstrate both styles because I’m fairly new to violin. I’ve been playing fiddle for 9 years, so I felt like I wouldn’t be able to fairly represent violin. I made the video because people ask me this question all the time, and I figured maybe other people would want to find out too!
@aprillpalomino3481 Жыл бұрын
Uhm violins only have 4 strings....not 5. idk about fiddles but i do know that a violin does not have 5 strings
@jaronbryant3944 Жыл бұрын
Most don’t. They do make them though! Mine is one of them!
@lolkillermoon2 жыл бұрын
Why are there 5 strings on that violin?
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
It’s a specially crafted violin. It has an extra lower C string, so it basically combines the ranges of a violin and a viola. I bought one after Michael Cleveland let me try his, and I fell in love. Mike’s an excellent fiddle player by the way. Highly recommend that you check him out.
@lolkillermoon2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@lolkillermoon2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
@@lolkillermoon Thanks!!
@bennyrobertson2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the poster that the difference is largely a matter of the style of the player. However, I disagree with his contention that it is the difference between written and improvised music, especially since he cites jazz as an example of the latter. Yes, jazz is improvised, but we talk about jazz VIOLINISTS (think Stephane Grappelli, Stuff Smith, Joe Venuti, Jean-Luc Ponty), not jazz fiddlers. Many jazz violinists are in fact classically trained. There are differences in setup between violins and fiddles, but they are still the same instrument. The best definition I have ever heard is this: a violinist plays long strokes, with two or more notes being played per stroke; a fiddler saws back and forth, one note per stroke.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Very interesting insight sir!
@RockStarOscarStern6344 ай бұрын
Jaron Bryant Well it's all the same instrument
@alonzowitt5931 Жыл бұрын
The fiddle is the unorthodox version of the violin 😂
@mariomedina38682 жыл бұрын
You're really good at reading.
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thank you sir! There’s no way I could have come up with all that info on the fly!! I definitely had a script!!
@keithclark4863 жыл бұрын
Who told you All that ?
@jaronbryant39443 жыл бұрын
Tons of research and 8 years of playing experience!
@Twallrion2 жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 i was about to say, he probably plays the violin. Playing violin is a lot of work, and you have to be really serious to pick up the instrument, most violinists do have quite a lot of knowledge about the history, and the rest, out of interest. I work full-time and have a second job, but I make sure to practice at least 1 hour a day, and i aim for 2+ hours
@pedade022 жыл бұрын
Well, fiddles in past times (more than a century ago) were made with scrap material found here and there, it was poor man hand made because no money to buy a "real" violin. Violins, like it looks in modern days, were luthier's art and pricey - available mostly for classical musicians playing for the bourgeoisie and Kings. So it is a modern conception that fiddles and violins are the same; only since industrial mass production has lowered violins' price so almost everyone can now buy one - exception, in poor countries today, sitll many people make their own instruments with scrap material savaged here and there in garbages...
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you!!
@user-el1dl7ks7x Жыл бұрын
He is lying. The only difference between a fiddle and a violin is that you don't spill beer on a violin.
@davidbostock69332 жыл бұрын
Next up the faddle, a fretted cello played like a bass guitar.
@caithnessviolinist7903 Жыл бұрын
NOT TRUE! Violins and fiddles are the same instrument! 🎻 People in England (where I'm from) always say "violin", whereas people here in Scotland always say "fiddle". It's a colloquial thing. Classical music is associated with "violins" and traditional folk music is associated with "fiddles". Also - violins do NOT have 5 strings 🤦🏻♀️ I have been playing for over 30 years, teaching for over 20 years, and I'm Diploma level, yet never once have I come across a violin with 5 strings!
@jaronbryant3944 Жыл бұрын
Once you realize that the beginning part was a joke, you’ll find that we said the same thing! And my violin is specially made! It has an additional low C string like a viola! Your degree and experience have nothing to do with never seeing one before! You just haven’t! They’re really cool though, and I would highly recommend you try one out if you ever come across one! They’re really something!
@Internetguy_L337_90D2 жыл бұрын
so a fiddle is freedom to play how you want and violin is compositions only
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Broadly, yes. It’s also the style. Fiddle lends itself to folk and country, and violin is classical.
@sunnyegereonu72912 жыл бұрын
Wait are you saying the violin has 5 strings and fiddle has 4 strings? That means I have been playing fiddle all this while
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
No. That was just a joke. My fiddle/violin has 5, because it was built specially. Standard is 4.
@sunnyegereonu72912 жыл бұрын
@@jaronbryant3944 ok
@bruhgaming71232 жыл бұрын
not every violin has five strings so it’s still hard to tell the difference
@jaronbryant39442 жыл бұрын
Anatomically, they’re the same. It’s all in the style!!