Fiddlesticks Jungle Clear Breakdown

[@gtothee5723]

Thank you so much! I really like how you show approx range of leashing the camps, as well as markers to look out for. I worked hard, and have gotten the blue side pretty well, now to move onto the raptors and red.

[@xdae]

Diamond fid main here. For red side it’s actually better to start with red buff/birds up top then golems. You can lv3 gank top if enemy is low/pushing. You start top so you can path to bot and avoid enemy jg. Bot is priority for fid since he does aoe dmg, also can solo secure drag soon as it spawns. Feeding ur adc is critical as fid’s ult zones for the adc to spam autos. ps: after first drain on gromp quickly place ur fid ward on the bush in river entrance for invade/reset its cool down. Same thing after red buff on red side.

[@donbongo993]

hey Sawyer, do you have a guide for an optimal red side clear?

[@Jason-with-a-game]

From what i did, auto red, walk to raptors and auto, walk to tree. When i used w red buff reset and came back. That's how i did it, but I don't know how to do it without red buff resetting

[@randylin1871]

yup we i would def like to see this

[@randylin1871]

Actually, after some browsing his latest vid: Fiddlesticks Jungle Commentary - Master Tier shows him starting at red buff.

[@youssefirari7253]

Imma the only one who practiced it for hours and still failed on the first steps?

[@mikerp5260]

Nope, lmao.

[@arthur9531]

Yup just got it down in about 30 minutes

[@Noodle-Segootal]

Yeah, that wolves into blue is really precise. Starting on red buff is way more forgiving!

[@moop8996]

Thank you for the early Valentine's gift

[@ronniekoomba922]

My god this was great to watch and finally understand!! Thank you so much for this guide! Also to note, i had NO clue that that bar at the top was called "patience" lol. I though it was aggro distance or something.

[@vocus2306]

hello, sorry for asking, what program do you use to draw on the screen?

[@sergiogarciacuesta9811]

Could one be done starting in red?

[@avisar3457]

why did you private the jungle camp leash range video? very informative on how to do fiddle clear

[@RudeGuerilla]

after trying this clear in practice tool I can say the margin for error is extremely miniscule. 9/10 would recommend this, as you will fuck it up 6/10. Camp aggro margins are ludicrously small.

[@moonwatchereclipse5291]

A pretty optimal and significantly easier red side clear is doing the blue buff and the gromp at the same time, then moving to the wolves, and then doing the rest of your clear.

[@jmedios]

Loving your channel bro. Super informative. Which support would you recommend that I use to climb out of Gold? Preferably a champ that isn't mechanically hard. Thanks!

[@SawyerJungle]

Alistar

[@BenDNee]

Garen, Annie too

[@MS31459]

@@BenDNee as supports, no chance in hell

[@pappousmakis9062]

Thank you a lot but can you do one for red side ?

[@hadiakhtar8431]

you usually never wanna start red side on fiddle, its just awkward. Unless ur in a weird matchup ig.

[@Coldz651]

@@hadiakhtar8431 really? I start red on fiddle cause once I’m done with blue, it’s faster to get to scuttle than on reds side

[@user-fg4iw6ru8y]

@@hadiakhtar8431 well i guess you can start red side if u r assuming them to try catching you on blue side but the blue side clear is faster

[@astral9022]

You really only start red if u get invaded or if you are on blue side team and your top laner has below 40% wr in ranked which means that you don’t want to path to his lane during your first clear. If you put your fiddlesticks ward on one side and then put a control ward on the other you should be safe from invades and can carefully plan on what to do next if the enemy actually decides to attempt an invade without getting yourself killed. Level 1 invades however can’t be denied by your wards so you will have to get your team to collapse on them or start red which I really don’t recommend

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Crazy, gonna practice, thx! Update: It's frickin' hard, man... the wolves ALWAYS run away, even if they don't then the blue does or ONE of the small wolves keeps limboing between me and its camp. Not to mention the chickens resetting. D: Update: Can do the wolves part kinda okay now, Gromp is still being a jerk. Hitting those drains so that they kill stuff just before they'd reset drive me up a wall. D:

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

@@rori9237 I feel ya, good luck!

[@phat2670]

I always mess this up in practice tool, and do it properly in actual games. I think its the fear of failing that gives me the power to execute the sick camp manipulations.

[@TehKevinYang]

Can you do this but when you're starting on the right side of the map? Idk, the landmarks to look for kinda gets to me and I can't do when on the other side

[@PogaltaEditz]

On right side you should start red do you can go for bot scuttle regardless

[@ArguablyTheWorst]

What about the other jungle? Any pointers on red side?

[@SawyerJungle]

ya don't mess up

[@ArguablyTheWorst]

@@SawyerJungle Thanks m8 👍

[@matyaskoranda3700]

practice couple of times in practice tool. The wolves are a bit trickier...

[@CptApplestrudl]

I was wondering, does getting a leash on fiddle actually slow you down?

[@SawyerJungle]

depends

[@azaphakaylock2789]

Situational- it can slow it down, often leashes will not know the clear and possibly pull agro on the camp which can A: effect the patients bar and make you have to stay around longer B: make a camp move out of range of E which DOES heavily effect your clear, can easily have around 10 seconds added to your otherwise perfect clear for this

[@sorashou6229]

Did they shorten the aggro range because I am in the same spot as you are in blue/wolves blue side.. yet I keep losing aggro on blue or wolves or both.. Man i'm level 7 in fiddle its embarassing..

[@SawyerJungle]

nope

[@zephyrs4850]

What is a leash range

[@izamalol9146]

thats a science on its own

[@MayoZrooski]

Little pointer/question: When you aa wolves 2 more times, shouldn't you be aaing blue because drain+item will execute wolves anyways?

[@matyaskoranda3700]

you want to move to gromp as soon as possible. you might kill blue sooner, but it will actually delay your clear, because you have to wait for the wolves to die and gromp will take the same amount of time regardless of wolves.

[@MayoZrooski]

@@matyaskoranda3700 Trueee

[@propedey8489]

I love this video but the problem im running into is doing the same thing but on red team

[@SawyerJungle]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmaUant_m8aSh5I

[@CaptainRawn42]

Great video!🔥

[@gtothee5723]

Hey there. As you know, jungle is being changed and gromp is getting 100 hp buff. What will this change about this clear?

[@SawyerJungle]

Won’t be poggers

[@gtothee5723]

@@SawyerJungle would love an updated route to see how low it can go!

[@janekkrawiecki4654]

Is it still possible?

[@UndyingPharaoh]

I already knew this bro wtf? i am too 5head for this man

[@jonathanpezzati9115]

bro... this video is amazing! I'm gonna be a fiddle main now.

[@DragonGuyCz]

ty ,, Helped me a lot ,,

[@SawyerJungle]

cool

[@TehKevinYang]

Did they change it? I didn't get lvl 2 from wolves .-.

[@markomajdandzic1763]

You have to buy the jungle item

[@redringo2303]

Did the W cooldown nerf change the clear?

[@SawyerJungle]

No

[@bbyagamii]

I'm surprised you didn't save time by second smiting the big krug. Good tutorial though. For the people that would think it's for scuttle you wouldn't need it as the enemy jungler 80% of the time would be pathing top side and taking top side scuttle.

[@baauumm8223]

what should i do when i am blue side, the visual ques are not there

[@astral9022]

It’s different on blue side, and it’s considered harder (slightly). I can’t really explain it to you but go watch Doubtfull’s newest vid on fiddlesticks. He shows how to do Blue Side clear and the spots where you are supposed to use to bring wolves + blue together and red + wraiths together

[@akhi-yahya]

Can we get a red side guide?

[@SawyerJungle]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmaUant_m8aSh5I

[@rrerny9431]

I was trying this and I sucked, but I just had a thought that it should be better to smite the group asap since there is no real benefit of waiting since the smite healing is flat now and you get the w execute damage twice.

[@chrislee8436]

I agree with the smite idea.

[@YoDan7431]

The one thing is you want the whole healing from the smite so if you do it immediately you can miss out on like 50 health

[@happymangamingfun]

How do you do this on recent patches? I keep getting way too low or executed on the blue + gromp part

[@matyaskarikas1348]

hi man, you must be doing something wrong, because fiddlesticks can clear withouth pots, and never lose health, you w gives you so much hp back. if you have discord, i could teach/show you how to, add me Matyas999#1506

[@matteodv6407]

exactly same way, it didnt change. remember to smite before your w finishes as smite heals based on your health, the less health the more it heals, so smite just before w ends on the frog, otherwise you wont heal enough

[@sunlight_beginz9401]

Fun clear and pain clear lol ty for the vid though its so harad though

[@codoskiexd5933]

Fr i swear im doing it the same way but i die so much faster then he does 😂

[@BossKillRatio]

I got gold for the first time with fiddlesticks with this guide

[@SawyerJungle]

Nice.

[@adrijusp4213]

Ty for the tutorial but my mental cant handle when it reswts i just wanna smash my desk and moniyor

[@SawyerJungle]

Same

[@LegendarioMitico]

Great video

[@Chillbot17]

In theory this is easy, but I'm still 20 seconds too slow

[@TheBenirons]

there was this one time when this newbie fiddle needed a leash on blue... He was just autoing.... use your W man I tell them... They do and then immediately cancel it with an auto lmao well somehow they dont die to blue with leash and move onto gromp where they continue to break their W instantly... I had to ping them off cause they were legit gonna get executed

[@lamuneboy9562]

Hahaha gotta give those newbies some love! Hope he figured it out soon enough in game lol

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

I bet 99% of people playing haven't read a single spell tooltip. HNNNG!

[@cottonwhyy]

why not smite the big krug / golem?

[@SawyerJungle]

Scuttle

[@cottonwhyy]

@@SawyerJungle oh, i didn't think of it as a whole game, makes sense

[@miguelcosta4752]

such a nice guy

[@nikolespipes5348]

Hey big help fren thanks a lot

[@MrJimmyOG]

Glurp glurp

[@alejandrobenegas7340]

wtf im so mind blown

[@redforest3740]

Why is this so hard? I've been doing it for an hour and only had 1 successful attempt...but all of a sudden I can't get it right again even though I'm literally step by step trying to copy what you did and what I did on my only successful attempt...wtffffffffff I keep dying to the blue buff I'm tilting so fking hard I still can't do it and it's been 2 hours LOL IDFC I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS I WILL SPEND A WEEK IF I HAVE TO

[@alexbenner565]

Yeah I've been working on this as well. Seems like you really just have to juggle the camps patience perfectly, which feels like its balanced on a knife's edge. One absolutely minor mistake and a camp resets.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Yeah, it's been so difficult that it's close to putting me off playing Fiddles jungle. I love the champ but this might be too much to handle.

[@SawyerJungle]

New Fiddlesticks Vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnnXZZWBoZenkJI

[@Crucile]

Nice

[@FuriaFIFA_]

U will need to make a new one for the next patch bcz jg is gettin nerf

[@feldt7378]

Jg xp is getting a nerf, not the jungle camps patience. It's the same thing.

[@naiysliogan]

The camps have a few mor hp too. So the number of aa and the timing to w may change

[@feldt7378]

@@naiysliogan ohhh true mb

[@redforest3740]

@@naiysliogan wait does that explain why I've spent the past 2 hours trying to do this and it didn't work? Or am I just that bad even after the jg nerf? LOL

[@naiysliogan]

@@redforest3740 I heard than since our W does percent HP the clear almost doesn't change and you heal a little more. But for me wolf + blue + gromp level 1 don't work either... I die every time. So I don't know ^^"

[@zalmncocu8827]

I have tried this for 2 hours now and I can't make three hit to the wolves and smiting blue instead of grump. fuck! edit1: (15 minute later) I have done the blue side of the jungle HAHAHA!!! I will edit again when I done the red side. :D edit2: I have practiced for 1,5 hour I guess and I cant find the spot where red and raptors met perfectly and I fail lots of the times. So, Its not perfect and I can rotate in 4 minutes.

[@CptApplestrudl]

Yea, the problem is that sometimes the wolfs stand in the way, so you might not make it back into leash range in time. At least that's a problem for me time and again.

[@GimmeMarks]

its been 22 hours. It appears red side is still alive 0_0

[@zalmncocu8827]

@@GimmeMarks xD

[@miguelangelmoncayoprado1652]

good job, i am playing in lan , and actualy i am the 3th fiddlestick in lan (mtkwolf) its very god this video, maybe i could practice

[@recuerdadiciembre]

Empieza en 1:21 @elmillor

[@reetox4986]

and when u r on the other side u are fcked? xD

[@luccatuffery8826]

this shit is fucking impossible

[@xvio8289]

outdated

[@ricosuabeyatusabe3855]

ELMILLOR

[@lilliaplayer9439]

👃

[@ricosuabeyatusabe3855]

@@lilliaplayer9439 como sabes que soy argentino👃

[@crafter_6239]

Tried this, got 4 man invaded by a master Yi despite us having a thresh on our team, and then irelia was camping Yi's wolves. Easy AFK. Fuck league lol

[@redforest3740]

felt that pain bro feelsbadman past 3 ranked games I played I got invaded over and over again and got camped by all the enemy laners in my own fucking jungle and when I tried to counter jungle they'd all come to kill me because they only put wards in their jungle, because what's the point in putting it in a bush next to you if the enemy jungler is still level 4 while your jungler is level 7??? fuck league indeed