Field Recording Beginner Gear For Sound Recording, Filmmakers & YouTubers

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Free To Use Sounds

Free To Use Sounds

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@carlos_niggli
@carlos_niggli Жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a Field Recorder from Switzerland, if I would start all over again, I would directly buy the LOM basicUcho, best quality for a low prize...
@prakaboy
@prakaboy Жыл бұрын
I'm almost three weeks into my quest to find my first multi-purpose recorder. Not decided yet, but I'm learning so much from you, and your passion is rad!
@Mapachotgun
@Mapachotgun 4 ай бұрын
what did you finally get?
@Dale_Blackburn
@Dale_Blackburn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel, in here you talk about Audio Technica mic for sound designers and for field recordings. I am mainly interested in field recording, i create a lot of sound effects out of them for my films. But i was thinking to use Zoom H8's own X-Y mics for that? Is it bad? So i need to buy a one more external mic for field recordings? So i can't use Zoom h8's own microphones for field recordings?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale, oh no you can use the XY and the H8 for field recording. That is how I started. Zoom H1, H6 and then leveled up. Make sure you have wind protection.
@leonardocalvo
@leonardocalvo 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, i just start with field recording, i have a zoom h1 An interesting topic to address in a video would be how you started selling sounds, not so much for the money, but to take into account, how to sell, which pages, tips to start, things like that, greetings from Argentina
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Leonardo! Thanks for watching and yes that’s something we can do. Alright :)
@leonardocalvo
@leonardocalvo 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks!!! You are awesome!!!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardocalvo A pleasure! Maybe we can do this in two weeks.
@xSpirit
@xSpirit 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds yes please!
@tomsimpson001
@tomsimpson001 3 жыл бұрын
So excited to have discovered your channel on here and Bandcamp. It's inspired me to take the love of sound recording even further!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear Tom! :)
@jalenorion2622
@jalenorion2622 3 жыл бұрын
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@augustuszain6378
@augustuszain6378 3 жыл бұрын
@Jalen Orion Instablaster =)
@jalenorion2622
@jalenorion2622 3 жыл бұрын
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@jalenorion2622
@jalenorion2622 3 жыл бұрын
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@evlarette
@evlarette Жыл бұрын
i just found this channel yesterday,, and this is what i am looking for
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@barry_dalive
@barry_dalive Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I've been recording live musical concerts going on 25 years. I was watching, waiting to see if you already had the Sennheiser, and was pleased to see that you do. You already have more than enough nice equipment, but I highly recommend you look at the Shure MV88+ if you want a great little mic for your phone. You probably already know about it, but for years, it's been the best stereo mic made for nice quality phone recordings. I wish it had a little more range with the reverb, but overall, a great stereo mic for the price. I liked and subscribed to your channel and look forward to more of your content in the future. Thanks for your time!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you Barry! Oh yes we know about this microphone but never bought it. Maybe we come across it one day and try it out. Great for a minimal travel kit.
@ArchAangel21
@ArchAangel21 2 жыл бұрын
going to start recording airsoft videos but wanted a deeper depth of soundscape that an action cam can not compare to. it seems like a zoom F3 and a AT bp2045, with the jammer and gag but I'm excited to see how it turns out as have always wanted to record stereo. but looking forward to getting a pole and just recording ambience too. i got a flight flix that adapts drift ghost xl and pros to fit 37mm lens. so with a nd8/vpl and a uv protector. and that's forced the onboard chip to lengthen the shutter speed so there is a nice motion blur included now. if id buy another I might go with the urth vmd/pl if Polarpro doesn't release a 37mm mdvmd.
@abhishekvaru
@abhishekvaru 3 жыл бұрын
Your Channel is Actually Unique !
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Abhiskek! Thank you so much for saying that. :)
@852foodie
@852foodie 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Always love checking out your toys. For the MKH 8040 mics that you have in the Cinela Albert, do you ever take them out or leave them in the cage all the time?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
I also take them out for sound effects recording
@852foodie
@852foodie 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you for replying Marcel. When you use the MKH 8040 without the Cinela Albert for recording, do you mount it on any shock mount?
@tamhewitt-baker5602
@tamhewitt-baker5602 3 жыл бұрын
I mean this in the best way possible, but when you talk I get a very distinct picture of Taika Waititi in 'What we do in the shadows'. Also, I very much find your videos helpful, so it's a double whammy. thanks.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha Ha! I'm glad you din't get the picture of me in Jojo Rabbit :) but thank you for watching. That made me smile.
@dalemettee1147
@dalemettee1147 2 жыл бұрын
Marcel, I've been watching you vid's and I like what you're doing. I'm going to be 80 Y/O this year and I've been into sound and sound recording since high school. A lot of what I hear and quite frankly upset with is inaccurate sound effects. A phone that rings with the wrong bells or sequence, a car that starts with the wrong starter sound or some other flub. I also have the same passion with bad editing on a movie. Keep up the good work.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dale! We smiled reading your comment :)
@serenedreamwhisperer
@serenedreamwhisperer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I really appreciate and enjoy your channel!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@studiospiraluniverse
@studiospiraluniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please share if you always had troublefree experiences with airport security checks with your gear? How do you pack it?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! To be honest since I have the Cinela Albert with in my carry on bag, sometimes the security wants me to take it out. But thats about all. I have tripod, monopole, cables and also the F8n in my check bag. Batteries and power adapters always in carry on bag. Libby sometimes has more trouble with her camera bag :)
@АлексейКарнаухов-т5б
@АлексейКарнаухов-т5б 3 жыл бұрын
I don't record much of the sounds of nature and I don't see the point for myself to invest a lot of money in recorders and microphones. There is a Sony PCM-A10 voice recorder, but it's not enough for me. There is a Sony ILCE-7C camera. Can the Sony XLR-K3M adapter with two remote microphones replace a regular recorder, for example, Zoom H6 .How big will be the difference in recording quality when compared with the same remote microphones.Thank you if you answer )
@jonasbunds3100w
@jonasbunds3100w Жыл бұрын
Hey, I just saw, that you used the Cinela and now you have the cyclone. I’m about to buy a Schoeps dms kit and wonder, which basket option you prefer. Thanks for your great content!!! Learned so much :-)
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonas, I travel with both and both see great to be honest but if I had to choose between both, I would go with Cinela when using the fur. But in lower wind without fur on both units the Rycote performs better. Both are great but again, if I had to choose between both of them, Cinela.
@jonasbunds3100w
@jonasbunds3100w Жыл бұрын
​@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks so much, I think I know what to do now ;-) Have safe travels and Frohe Weihnachten!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
@@jonasbunds3100w Merry Xmas to you too. Great Christmas present awaits you :)
@danielbuckley4961
@danielbuckley4961 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good stuff. I live in Arizona and our summer monsoon storms are spectacular. Do you have any thoughts about gear for recording storms and/or technique. Specifically I'd be interested in what microphones might be able to handle the high sound pressure levels of a fairly close lightning strike. Even with a 32 bit recorder if you overdrive the microphone distortion will occur. Also in how you keep your microphones and gear dry without the sound of raindrops hitting something that is physically protecting the gear from rain. I've been watching a lot of your videos and they're very helpful but also really intriguing. What a great life you guys have carved out for yourselves.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel. That is correct so the microphones I have have a pretty high SPL so I don't worry about that.
@danielbuckley4961
@danielbuckley4961 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks. I'll keep watching.
@trovegaming3960
@trovegaming3960 3 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video as always. Keep up the amazing work !!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@danielmartinsaezdeparayuel2675
@danielmartinsaezdeparayuel2675 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Im here again. Great updated! Im very crazy whiz the geofón. I watch the dedicated video in your chanel for contact microphones and geofón and Im interesting to get one. What amazing sound, dude! Where I can get it! Do you know any place?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
The Geofon is very hard to get. The last batch of 400 items was sold out in less than two hours. Join the newletter from Lom Audio or the Facebook group Lom Instruments to stay updated. The contact microphone is the AKG c411pp. You can get this at Amazon or B&H. I have links in the description.
@danielmartinsaezdeparayuel2675
@danielmartinsaezdeparayuel2675 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Hi Marcel, thanks! I join to the newsletter from Lom Audio. I hope than they make another batch again. Happy recordings new year!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielmartinsaezdeparayuel2675 oh I’m sure they will :) Happy Holidays.
@MauriceBerisha
@MauriceBerisha 3 жыл бұрын
such a cool and informative channel! im making music and recently decided to get into fiel recording and am now learning all the essentials via your channel. im propably gonna get a h8 and maybe some contact mics for the beginning :).
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Frisko! That is awesome and thank you for the nice comment. A contact microphone is always a great device to have.
@alexandrevaliquette1941
@alexandrevaliquette1941 2 жыл бұрын
If we have a lavalier, does the phone quality influence the recording? Can you heard the difference with the same lavalier recorded by different phone? Thanks a lot for your great video. It does help us making better quality creation!!!! Thumbs up of course!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Ah you mean using a lavalier on mobile phone? Well this works for sure and it should sound okay depending on the lav. What lav you have in mind?
@alexandrevaliquette1941
@alexandrevaliquette1941 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I have a Pixel 3XL without phone jack. And I would like the best bang for my buck (but still have a nice sound). No wireless. Cheap Boya is an option, but I've read a review saying it clip sound with Pixel 3? Any suggestions?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrevaliquette1941 So either have a cheap microphone with low quality or you buy something more serious.
@alexandrevaliquette1941
@alexandrevaliquette1941 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I do have a nice condenser mic at home. But I need a decent setup for whitewater rescue video (outside).
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm then its more about hiding and protecting the microphone. You should look into Ursa Straps and Rycote products.
@kameradude
@kameradude 3 жыл бұрын
Hi very informative.. what do think about the Rode NTG5 using it for field recording since this is cheaper than the one in your video
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can use this for field recording for sure.
@kameradude
@kameradude 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Great thank you so much! Keep creating!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@kameradude We will :)
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 3 жыл бұрын
Marcel your channel is truly unique, a source of inspiration. A good helper is your sympathy. Keep it up! What a pity that the Lom Geofon is always sold out; I'm curious about your review of the new Zoom F2. Do you find that the windshields of the Rode are much inferior to those of the Rycote?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Giancarlo! Thank you so much for your nice comment and yes, these Geofon's were gone in no time. I believe that Rycote puts more effort and research into wind protection and for Rode its just a side product next to the range of microphones they have. Alone with that in mind and the experience I had with the Rycote blimp I believe Rycote has the better wind protection products. You pay more but in that case you get more.
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you very much
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Always welcome :)
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 3 жыл бұрын
Always informative and educational
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@ToddWhirley
@ToddWhirley 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content! Very informative
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Todd! Tomorrow we film a new video. :)
@bubbakav
@bubbakav 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the AT 8022 as a lower-cost alternative to the 4025? (And the Rode Blimp as a windshield for the 8022?) Many thanks! Just getting into this and really enjoy your videos.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David! Thank you so much for watching. The 8022 is indeed the cheaper version and I personally never used it so I can't tell you much about the sound quality but I do believe and reading the comments about it, that it is a good microphone for beginners to a very good price point. About the windshield, I saw one video about the Rode Windshield with the 4025 and its done a good job but I personally wouldn't use a Rode windshield.
@bubbakav
@bubbakav 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you, sir!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@bubbakav You are very welcome!
@TerraGermaniaTG
@TerraGermaniaTG 3 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm using the old Zoom H1 for ambient sounds in my videos. Unfortunately I have problems with hissing noise. Could you tell me the best settings for the H1 to reduce that? thank you!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Check out one of the latest video I did about setting gain for field recordings. I think you find your answer right there.
@TerraGermaniaTG
@TerraGermaniaTG 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds thank you for replying! I will check it out.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@TerraGermaniaTG Let me know if you have any questions!
@TerraGermaniaTG
@TerraGermaniaTG 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds thank you for the kind offer. I will have to experiment a bit with the recorder. maybe you'll hear from me again :)
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@TerraGermaniaTG You know where to find me. :)
@STIXSURVIVAL
@STIXSURVIVAL 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there which dead cat works well with the zoom H8. Quality video thx.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Rycote one they have for the H6 XY. That is great.
@MOTOMINING
@MOTOMINING 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, looking to up my audio game from Gopro audio to Zoom H5, what do the professionals do about water protection? How can I record in the rainforest without destroying my gear?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Rain is not your biggest problem. Humidity is.
@MOTOMINING
@MOTOMINING 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I couldn't agree more!
@gamertedd1881
@gamertedd1881 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Whats JOBY STICK model do you use for recorders?
@Smamaj
@Smamaj 3 жыл бұрын
love your channel lot of knowledge! Did you ever tried Olympus L-p1 ? I have one as my first recorder you think it is ok for begining of field recording? I am mostly making videos but I see more and more how important sound is and your channel is true gem in this field!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I never used this Modell but as a beginner you can’t make anything wrong :). If you like the recorder and you can benefit from it, get it :)
@OngoingBox
@OngoingBox 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly helpful! Thank you
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and I have another update coming up soon! :)
@mooimacow9533
@mooimacow9533 3 жыл бұрын
Hi man i love your channel! What would you recommend as a first recorder for a beginner who is field recording for music purposes rather than filmmaking etc? Should the tascam dr 07x / tascam dr-40x be considered (i only know these from googleing). Thanks!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not as Tascam user but you can look into the Zoom series recorder that are in the same price range.
@yellowleafproduction7221
@yellowleafproduction7221 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice that you share so freely about your work, methods and equipment. One piece that seems to be missing from the list (but is on the table) is the "pistol grip" - something that I am looking for a good solution to.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes this one was part of the Deity Set but you can get it from Rycote or Rode has also a pistol grip.
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel! I just ordered a matched pair of Rode Nt5 for XY configuration in field recording (ambient sound outdoor) and for dialogue in interior. I have the Zoom H6 and Tascam DR d60mkII as recorders. In your exprrience what is the ideal lenght of xlr cables to connect the two mics to the recorder for xy configuration? 1,5 to 2 meters? I halready have several xlr cables but I wanna buy two news identical very good cables for this setup and I want your suggestion. Thanks
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Giancarlo, I have 6 foot cables but if I extend the Nanopole to the fullest I'm reach the max and its to short. I think 8 foot is the best. Not too long and not too short. Also not to heavy in the bag.
@GiancarloBiondi
@GiancarloBiondi 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks!
@alex_montoya
@alex_montoya 2 жыл бұрын
Nice channel! Subscribed!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Looking forward to checking out your work!
@mr_duck_roll7820
@mr_duck_roll7820 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank for sharing this with us , I’m interested in learning foley sound effects for gaming and short video clips, would the Zoom H1N be a good device to start with? Thanks 😊
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for watching and yes the H1n is a great recorder to start with. I started out with the H1 :)
@Deffcolony
@Deffcolony 3 жыл бұрын
@Free To Use Sounds, What powerbank do you recommend for the ZOOM H8? and wich do you use? Because i am outside alot and i dont want to run the product on batteries all the time
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Powerbanks are a very good choice and was just running around the because of you and can't find it. I know I bought it last year in Iceland and its a good company. I do the Camino this year and also get a new powerbank. I'm very impressed with @GoalZero.
@ПолинаАбрамович-и9м
@ПолинаАбрамович-и9м 3 жыл бұрын
Вы хороший человек вас приятно слушать думаю если вы сделать ещё один KZbin канал и будете рассказывать о чём-нибудь другом то вас тоже будут слушать ещё больше
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Polina! Thank you so much for watching. It's always nice reading you comments. We had another KZbin channel but stopped early 2017 with it. This is the main channel and its good to focus on one thing that we really enjoy. Too many channels means more work load what could lead sooner or later to a burnout. We have already 14 to 16 hours days with all the other projects we have. :)
@soundhobo
@soundhobo 3 жыл бұрын
Well lucky me I bagged a Geofon on the last drop and it’s on it’s way 👍 Q...do you use the foam cover for the BO4025 as well as Baby Ball Gag and dead cat windshield as the video showed? I know it fits inside and it’s a snug fit.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!! So glad you got it. It was gone in no time. Yes if I'm outside I keep the foam on the microphone too depending on the wind. It there is no wind I just don't use the windjammer. Indoor I always have the foam on it as well.
@soundhobo
@soundhobo 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds ...many thanks 🙏👍
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@soundhobo You are so welcome :)
@mannaffolki
@mannaffolki 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel and Libby, I love the content you're putting out. And I have one question for you guys. If I would like to record rain sounds with a windjammer and dead cat over my microphone. Do I just do it under an umbrella? Or are there other methods to not hear the sound of rain falling on an umbrella so bad? Thank you for your time and keep putting out this quality content!
@mannaffolki
@mannaffolki 3 жыл бұрын
THank you so much for the reply, Marcel and Libby. I don't know where it went, but at least now I know a. how to rainproof and b. people like rain dropping on an umbrella :) Have a nice weekend!
@davidhellegouarch1622
@davidhellegouarch1622 3 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos. Thank you to sharing this with the world! I'm looking for an budget flexible pencil mics as Senheiser MKH 8040. I have seen the Lauten Audio LA-120 and nobody talk about these when it come to field recording (it's more designed for music production). Do you think that can work well ?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David! Thank you so much for watching. I just googled these microphones and they look pretty cool. The fact that you can switch the polar pattern is awesome and I would use them for field recording if I had a pair. Not sure how they perform in different climate areas but its worth a try.
@vividphotography
@vividphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, would you recommend using a cable saver on a lavalier microphone or not.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure.
@lifeisapicnic5612
@lifeisapicnic5612 3 жыл бұрын
saw the video well I want to buy equipment For example, the same microphone equipment in the same environment. Which sound quality is better, h6 or h8? I like mountains, so in the mountains, I try to shoot video with my mobile phone and use a recorder for audio. We do not record songs or performances. h6 h8 Which is better? Thank you
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I made a video about H6 VS H8. That should help.
@lifeisapicnic5612
@lifeisapicnic5612 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds very thanks
@genericmike7361
@genericmike7361 3 жыл бұрын
Curious about what you think the best wireless mobile sound system is with specific lav mics. Currently use the shure mvl with the rose wireless go and preordered the Saramonic Blink 500 Pro. And I also use a shotgun mic the rode video mic Me-L. But I’m starting to like the lav cuz when I put my phone down I tend to walk away and talk and catch wide angle shots.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! I haven't used any wireless systems yet and I think this is something I could see using only for my voice recording but not for field or sound recordings. I will check out the microphones you are using.
@genericmike7361
@genericmike7361 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds yeah I’m just a hobbiest but I like catching some good voice recordings in the wild on hikes. I recently picked up a DJI mini 2 and was trying to figure out what would be best to catch “the sounds of nature” haha (cuz then I’ll later add the two together)
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@genericmike7361 Oh I would say having a decent and small field recorder like one of the H series is a good start for sure.
@iaininberlin
@iaininberlin 3 жыл бұрын
In the video description you link to the 25mm BBG as being for the AT4025, but in most literature the 21mm BBG is recommended. Can you confirm which one you are using? Thanks! Your videos are a goldmine of information and ideas!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, oh yes that is the wrong one. You need the 21 mm version.
@dededindra
@dededindra 3 жыл бұрын
You guys so passionate! Just come to this channel and I love it. Greetings from Indonesia
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Deded! Greetings back and thank you for watching!
@Sashik
@Sashik 3 жыл бұрын
Why Zoom H8 and not zoom H6?? I want to get into sound recording too, mostly for personal use and I really wonder why you took such big "spider" a not mainstream H6. Is.. H8 better than H6 now? Better sound?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi have the H6 as well. I’m going to make a video about both soon.
@shubhojitghosh2960
@shubhojitghosh2960 3 жыл бұрын
Would love see a separate video on 360° microphone recording with Zoom F6 (in ambisonic recording mode).
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the Rode NTSF-1 next week.
@GiuseppeGessa
@GiuseppeGessa 2 жыл бұрын
Now I see what you meant about the right microphone (the ambient hydrophone), but I think it's a bit out of my badget, unfortunately. Anyway, good video, so thanks!!!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
You can find cheaper options for hydrophones out there. I made a comparison with the ASF2 and ASF1 which are high end products but you can easily find them for under $100.
@GiuseppeGessa
@GiuseppeGessa 2 жыл бұрын
@Free To Use Sounds Really??It could be interesting to start. In case would you mind to tell me what they are please? I'll promise, I'll ask you nothing more 😅
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
@@GiuseppeGessa Sure. Check out Jezz Riley French hydrophones for example. They are great budget hydrophones and do the job. Keep in mind that connector. If you have a recorder with XLR you want XLR.
@GiuseppeGessa
@GiuseppeGessa 2 жыл бұрын
@Free To Use Sounds Ok, thank you so much!! You are really kind. See you
@oceanvoice2302
@oceanvoice2302 3 жыл бұрын
I had a plan to record the ocean / sea waves sounds, I am planning to buy Zoom F1-SP as my 1st equipment, is it good to go for it? please advise.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm if you like to have a minimal equipment set you can try this for sure. The F1 is still a very noisy recorder. So for very calm waves, I wouldn't use it if I don't have to. I never used then stereo shotgun microphone so I can't tell you how good it is. Do you have in mind to use the F1 on top of a camera?
@Signcutter
@Signcutter 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a kit to convert the ktek boom pole to 5 pin for stereo recording? The one you link to and the one I purchased are only 3 pin.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Make! Yes these are special items and you need to contact Tino from Ktek about it. I'm not sure if they have it in store as a standard product but you should contact them and asked about it.
@rahoolsyam9538
@rahoolsyam9538 3 жыл бұрын
any suggestion on selling marketing and compiling sound effects whats your way of selling sounds
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
That could be for another video.
@sickheadofficial
@sickheadofficial 3 жыл бұрын
please what was that super ultra low self noise about 600$ or so very reliable, simple, kind of army style recorder? i once saw a video many years ago, now i am clueless.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, maybe a Nagra? But they are very expensive.
@AndrewSkalak
@AndrewSkalak 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for more resources on field recording and specialty mics. This channel is a goldmine!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew :)
@GuidoGautsch
@GuidoGautsch 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's quite fee upgrades in 3 years!! Great stuff, Marcel and Libby. I've just picked up a RØDE NTG5 and am running around grabbing sounds with it (as well as a couple of Samson C02s on a stereo bar) and am having a lot of fun. Going to spend a week in the Australian bush in a couple of weeks and hope to get some exciting sounds! I'd love to get a 32-bit recorder one day but for now, the Tascam DR60ii will have to do. Is the F6 your recommended option for filed recording?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Guido! I envy you being in Australia. The weather must be amazing and no tourists around. Alan from ZapSplat is currently doing the same thing. Maybe you guys should connect and record together. :)
@KyllandMusic
@KyllandMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Love you guys! :)
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh! Thank you so much for watching and you endless support! :)
@roadrunna.
@roadrunna. 3 жыл бұрын
I have subscribed and I hope 100k more will too, soon. Thank you.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and I think this will take a couple more years :)
@PhysioYogaProject
@PhysioYogaProject 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys! Love your work! Really inspirational!! I have a technical question. Is it fine to match the Wildtronic Stereo/Mono microphone without preamp directly in a Zoom H8? Can Zoom provide enough power for that? Sorry about these silly question, I love sounds since a while but I'm still a newbee!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm not sure if I understand your question. I guess you have the Wildtronics Parabolic Dish right? You want somehow connect the XLR cables but not using the Zoom? Also by not using the Zoom preamps what do you mean about power source? I think now I have more questions :)
@PhysioYogaProject
@PhysioYogaProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds ok I try to make it clearer. I'm wandering to buy a wildtronic stereo/mono, and I would like to use it directly with the zoom h8. Because they have two version of it, the amplified version and the straight xlr version, i was asking if I take the first one and I connect it directly to the zoom h8, can it work well? Thanks again for your work and for your answer, i've seen a lot of hours of your videos! XD
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhysioYogaProject Oh I see. Yes that makes more sense. I think what you wanted to know is that the H8 has phantom power and yes it can handle the Wildtronics. I do have to be honest and tell you that after one year, one of the channels on the parabolic dish I had, started already to fail and that is why I don't use it anymore. Keep in mind if you ever run into issues with this microphone you would need to ship it back to the United States. If you haven't decided yet and you are starting out with recording sounds, look into the Audio Technica 4025. Maybe you watched the video already? Its a stereo microphone that is cheaper, reliable and the supply chain is much better with an international company like Audio Technica. This is the microphone I wish knewing about it when I started out. Using a Rycote blimp or Rycote BBG you are cheaper or almost at the same price for this parabolic dish. Keep in mind the parabolic dish doesn't come with good wind protection at all. I had to customize one in Singapore that was alright but in places like Iceland, I wouldn't stand a chance to record any sounds with it. If you have any other question just let me know.
@PhysioYogaProject
@PhysioYogaProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks really a lot guys. I liked the capacity of the Wildtronic to isolate the sounds in the nature, but you're making me thinking about it. I guess i can make a cheap start with the zoom h8 and add the at 4025 after i made some practice with the only zoom. I think it makes sense. :-) Thanks again and if you would ever want to register in Tuscany (Italy), you'll have a guide!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhysioYogaProject I never really used the mono microphone with the wildtronics dish. It never appears to me it is strong enough but Schoeps on the other hand as a very powerful dish but this one comes with a price and is mono only. For ambience the AT is great to start with. We would love to go back to Tuscany and if we do it, we let you know. Happy recording and stay safe out there.
@MindwessWetad
@MindwessWetad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this! I'm slowly building a field kit and was wondering what type of equipment you are using. Since you mentioned that you would be open to trying out equipment for future videos: Have you heard of Line Audio Design mics? They're handmade in Sweden and ridiculously affordable for what they are. There's the CM4 cardioid, which may be a wider cardioid rather than true cardioid. I've read they are comparable to Schoeps Mk21. They also have an omni (the OM1). I just ordered a pair of CM4s that I'm going to play with in the studio and out in the field, but it would be cool to see you put them to the test more rigorously and hear how they stack up compared to your current equipment. I've read they have a bit more self noise than more expensive mics (mics over 10x the price of the CM4), but for my modest budget, I'm excited to get them. They have a clean, neutral, balanced sound. Planning on recording ambiances in ORTF. I don't have any affiliation with them, just excited about them and would like to see/hear how they handle in professional applications. Thanks again!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Oh yes I heard and read about Line Audio within the field recording community and the sound recordist who have them love them. The CM4 sounding very nice. Can I ask you what wind protection you are using for them? Not easy to get them shipped to me because I'm moving all the time but I will definitely reach out to them and see what is possible.
@MindwessWetad
@MindwessWetad 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Ah yes, the logistics of getting them to you would be difficult! I was looking into Rycote solutions for down the line, the stereo cyclone and/or ORTF windshield kit, but those are way out of my price range currently. Going to try out some Rycote baseballs + windjammers from a friend of mine, but I'm going to take a gamble on some Movo WS-G30 windscreens and compare them to the baseballs. Probably won't be able to record in any extreme winds anytime soon, but I'll be happy to be out recording something!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@MindwessWetad I wonder how the Cyclone compared to the Cinela Albert that I currently use but my suitcase doesn't allow any more additional gear :(. I haven't even thought about the Rycote Baseballs wind protection yet but for the Line Audio or even the Sennheiser I'm using, they could be a great alternative if its not to windy.
@MindwessWetad
@MindwessWetad 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Baseballs would definitely retain some higher frequencies if weather conditions aren’t too bad, at least compared to the Rycote baskets. I’ve used them on a Sennheiser MKH 50 for dialogue with nice results. I’ll definitely have to check out the Cinela Albert and see how they compare to Rycote. I’m glad you put that on my radar, thank you!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes Cinela has some of the wind protection products. I met Phillipe and his wife in Paris and I can tell you that they do all wind protection in house. Such lovely couple and extremely knowledgeable.
@richardlim2630
@richardlim2630 3 жыл бұрын
may I know. why you need so many input(F8) for your sound record?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. You mean the F6? First I need two inputs for my stereo recordings. If I want to get an ambisonic microphone in the future I need at least four. Sometimes I record underwater sounds with the hydrophone and use the Geofon, the contact microphhone and the stereo microphone at the same time.
@richardlim2630
@richardlim2630 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds cool 👍. thanks man
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardlim2630 You are so welcome!
@muffinman2.0
@muffinman2.0 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing some field recordings using a Zoom H5 in the last few years but I don't always have it with me when I want to record something. Just recently I bought a Sennheiser Ambeo headset so I can make recordings much more casually. Much to my surprise it has a great audio quality for a 59 euros pair of headphones. It's great for making binaural audio recordings without getting too much attention. Too bad it only works with an iPhone. Had to say goodbye to my Galaxy...
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the thing about these binaural headsets. It only works for the iPhone.
@WILDWILDVAPE
@WILDWILDVAPE 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you very much for your awesome content! :) I have 1-2 question: For ASMR-like recordings (Video A7 m3) at the studio/home, recording different sounds on motorcyles and field recording aswell... Would the Zoom F4/F8 be a good choice? I like that they have dual SD and the capsule connection for the zoom mics. Or would the Zoom F6 put me in a better spot so I don‘t get distortions, especially on the motorcycle... I looked into the H6/H8 aswell but the plastic and the less professional appearance didn‘t convince me...(and I can pic up the F4/F8 for almost the same price) And the last question is: which Mic would you recommend for ASMR (not voice, but unboxing things) and which mic to record Sounds on a motorcycle... (inside a bagpack and under the seat) If you find the time and joy to answer, I would appreciate it very much :) Greetings from 🇩🇪 , keep up the awesome videos 🤗
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning! I always have time to respond to comments :) That is what I signed up for being on KZbin. :) Question 01 about the recorder I had the F4 and still have the F8n but since I have the F6 I don't use the F8n at all anymore. It's only for backup. I replaced the F4 with the F8n back in 2018 If I really want to be safe with recording motorcycle sounds, I would always use a 32-bit recorder but that is because I have them already. I always think forward because technology moves forward but I use the recorder almost every day. If you do it just for fun and a couple of times a month or year then I would probably go with a cheaper recorder and safe the money. The other question I have for you would be about the number of microphones you like to use? Having 8 inputs is a lot but the F8 or F8n is a good choice for sure. I miss the capsule input on the F6 but there is almost no room for it. For recording motorbikes under the seat I would use the DPA 4060 or 4060 heavy duty. These are expensive but really good if it comes to recording such sounds. I know there are so many omnis out there people love using. Not sure if you know the website www.gearslutz.com. You can spend hours reading about microphones. It's a community-based website and if you have more questions about very specific microphones, this is the place to go. Question 02 For ASMR binaural microphones are always great because you have them in your ear and you can focus on opening the packages. I made a video about the Soundman OKM but what's so cool about the DPA 4060, you can create a DIY headset and use it as well. The cheaper versions are using LOM Usi Micro and you can build your own dummy head. I hope I could help you and if not just ask. I'm here :) Marcel
@WILDWILDVAPE
@WILDWILDVAPE 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Good morning, Thank you so much for your detailed answer! Yes, you are right the F6 (32bit) is the future... And if I get nice microphones the capsules should not be needed. Awesome tip with the binaural microphone setup... I was first thinking of a boom/shotgun Microphone. :D The DPA 4060 look good I will definitely take them into consideration. Your video about the Soundman OKM was great as well! 1 more question... if the microphone can be a bit bigger... in a backpack or attached to one... would you still take the DPA4060 or is there another slightly bigger microphone that comes to mind? Thanks again for your time. David
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@WILDWILDVAPE A boom or shotgun microphone is mostly mono and that doesn't work for ASMR effect, except you use two and mix it to stereo of course. A slightly bigger omni I use is the LOM Usi Pro but they are always sold out. You have to be lucky to get one but they are awesome. Another way to record motorbike sounds is by using a contact microphone. If you attach it to a frame, you get some awesome sounds.
@WILDWILDVAPE
@WILDWILDVAPE 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I found a pair of DPA 4061 IMK, guess they are the same? They are used at a good price :) Yes, I was looking into the LOM Usi Pro! And found out that they are very hard to find/buy :D I saw your Lisbon Video and this made me also want a contact microphone for exactly that reason! :D So I guess the 2x DPA 4061 IMK would suit my need for now? Thank you for your insanely fast reply :D
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@WILDWILDVAPE Oh yes the Lom's are really hard to get but be aware that the 4061 have a much higher noise floor. There are some posts about difference between 4060 and 4061. Not that you are dissapointed with the quality later. Make sure you read them.
@tesalsangma
@tesalsangma 3 жыл бұрын
Have you stopped using the Zoom f6?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tesal! Oh no I love the F6 but its an update video with the newest gear. I'm not repeating the equipment I already showcased in the previous one. :)
@tesalsangma
@tesalsangma 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds ah, got it 😊
@Expeditom
@Expeditom 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and always a pleasure to see what you use for your stunning recordings. I wonder, how I should proceed gear wise to record nature ambience as well as single distant animal sounds (i.e. birds). I own the Zoom H5 with XY- and Shotgun (SGH6) capsule, but the noise floor is considerable with the gain above 7. Given that many wildlife sounds are faint and distant, I struggle a fair bit and am contemplating about external mics such as 2xcondenser mics or one dedicated shotgun mic. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you very much in advance! Tom
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I know what you mean and I had used the Zoom H6 with the XY only. That was back in 2017 and I do think that the LOM I got was already a great improvement on a budget. What condenser mics are the one you have in mind?
@Expeditom
@Expeditom 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for your immediate reply! Highly appreciated! I am considering a matched pair of Se8 microphones, because they should be better than cheaper options such as the rode M5. However, your Sennheisers sound superb, but are out of the range :) How do you approach faint and distant sounds in nature? Cheers Tom
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Expeditom Wow! The SPL of them is amazing and also the self noise is not bad at all. Looks like a nice pair of microphones. If a sound is faint or in the distance I keep the levels always under the self noise. I never raise it to a level of unwanted sound. If the natural environment is quiet, thats how I record it because I know that I can't force sound into the recorder if there isn't any. Also lots of sound designers prefer quiet recordings because they are great for build ups.
@Expeditom
@Expeditom 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you so much for your reply! This helped me a lot! I will keep the gain lower in the future. All the best and have a wonderful Xmas time. Cheers Tom
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Expeditom Thats what we wish you too!
@pmishraofficial
@pmishraofficial 3 жыл бұрын
A very helpful video Marcel. I guess this will clarify a lot of dilemma for people who are looking forward to buying new equipment. :)
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Prashant. There is so much equipment out there these days and I had a lot of trials and error. I believe what I have is great for beginners and advanced sound recordists. I do think I should get a new VR microphone.
@GRafaella
@GRafaella 3 жыл бұрын
Any advice for recording dolphins and whales on a noisy boat?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Turn off the engine, tell everyone to be quiet and use a hydrophone.
@MartinBircher
@MartinBircher 3 жыл бұрын
Interessant. Wann kommt Ihr nach Finnland?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin! Ohhh Finnland klingt toll. Vielleicht im Spät Sommer 2021? Ich bin auch nicht sicher ob Libby momentan nach Finnland einreisen kann da sie einen Amerikanischen Pass hat.
@rainbowfishmusical
@rainbowfishmusical 3 жыл бұрын
Have you used the MKH416?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric! I wish but maybe in the future in another blimp setup.
@lilDaveist
@lilDaveist 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@PatrickECleary
@PatrickECleary 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how to stay safe around alligators 🐊 Now I know!
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@Feintgames
@Feintgames 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use shotguns?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have the Deity S Mic 2S and I use it if I record sound effects
@irridiastarfire
@irridiastarfire 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to get a Rode NT-SF1 ambisonic microphone in the next week (to plug into the F6) -- it seems to be high quality and affordable (for an ambisonic). I know you have/had the Zoom H3-VR though so it would be a bit redundant, I guess. I'm going to try to use the NT-SF1 for indoor dialogue as well as outdoor ambient recording. Oh, and thank you for the LOM Geofon video, I managed to get one in the most recent batch.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! You are so lucky with the Geofon, I also looked into the NT-SF1 because it is much better than the H3VR from the sound quality point of view. I always think, it's already out since two years and who knows maybe next year a new version comes out. I wait until May and then get this or the Sennheiser.
@011001er
@011001er 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like this twice if I could. Wait... 👍👍 I guess I can haha
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@pauldzinnjr
@pauldzinnjr 3 жыл бұрын
Do y'all have a www.kit.co/ page?
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
No Paul! We have our own website with the kit listed.
@jaylee2656
@jaylee2656 3 жыл бұрын
🤩🤩🤩
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@Light_Camera_Story
@Light_Camera_Story 3 жыл бұрын
Audio is 51% of the video. Your channel should get more exposure. More recognition. I know, audio is not "Cool" or "Awesome" . Neither you show any over enthousiasm or brag about Coffee like "Some does" You show stuff. And you act as per your age and personality. Thank you. Ps. I want to know if there is anything good and cheap lav microphone for people who are living just above 'Poverty line's. Lol.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you so much and audio is more because we need audio not only for film or video but you know that already. For other readers who like to jump to comments audio is so much more. In music we need sound recordings, animation, podcast, audio dramas, video games and I could go on for another hour. About affordable lavs, what price range you have in mind? I could narrow this down for you.
@Light_Camera_Story
@Light_Camera_Story 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds , Absolutely. I am looking at around 'as cheap as possible to 50 euro Max'. If I can connect with my laptop or Zoom H1N. Or other recordings device.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Light_Camera_Story Alright. In that case you should check out the Audio Technica 3350XIS or the Rode smartLav+ is almost $80 but a good mic.
@Light_Camera_Story
@Light_Camera_Story 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds , Thank you. I will check it out immediately.
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Light_Camera_Story Let me know if you need more advice.
@rendermanpro
@rendermanpro 3 жыл бұрын
I have AudioTechnica headphones. Sound quality is good, but materials is just piece of sh... They came with a storage bag that the same material (like synthetic leather) as on headphones, and that bag *without any of use* in a drawer start falling apart in couple years. As well as material on headphones, so caps are good, but I would not recommend it... cheap materials
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@arisugawa7084
@arisugawa7084 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job MarcelRESPECT++
@FreeToUseSounds
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much but Libby is doing the most work of all :) Thank her too!
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