FIESTA ST VS FOCUS ST🤔 OPINION?😬

[@shadowsaiyan]

He's right. I've driven both. The Focus ST feels great for what it is... A quick & nimble little street car. But the Fiesta ST?! That thing feels like unmitigated VIOLENCE on wheels 😳😅

[@MaxHPower]

Haha well said😂

[@rellik9869]

Yep😂

[@NEMESISISDEAD]

focus st has the best shifter ive ever felt and its in an american car....how

[@FZERO20]

Do they have the same motor?

[@GZ187]

@@FZERO20Both eco boost but focus is larger

[@6z0]

My buddy has a big turbo fiesta st, that thing is fuckin nuts. V8 owners faces as a ford fiesta gaps them is priceless

[@MaxHPower]

Haha that’s amazing! They really are underestimated!

[@R03333]

Without even seeing the owner I could have told you he'd be wearing at least something that said monster energy on it

[@69GIGACHAD69]

Funny because the guy who I went to to install a comp clutch on my st was drinking Red Bulls all day. And his cousin was chugging monsters. Lol

[@arlequin241]

Power to weight ratio ❤

[@zachall1558]

it’s better on a focus st stock

[@kevinbuchanan67]

Are you sure? I would think the Fiesta would be better

[@Beaminn_]

Love my Fiesty Egg😂

[@MaxHPower]

Hahaha! They are fun little cars!

[@dre32pitt]

I've owned both the FiST and FoST, as well as many other hot hatches/sport compacts (GTI, STI, CTR, to name a few..) and the FiST is the only car I've bought twice (I've owned over 30 cars).. Currently paired with an ND Miata. Quite the fun lil' garage 😊

[@MaxHPower]

That’s awesome!!

[@postalpancho]

Fiesta ST> Focus ST Having driven both back to back I can verify that this statement is true. While the Fiesta lacks the all out acceleration of the Focus it more than makes up for it in the handling. The handling in the fiesta is insanely good due to being so light. The Fiesta st is essentially a FWD 4 door Miata.

[@kylewise3111]

I second this. I was a diehard vw guy, loved my golf R. Ditched it in a heartbeat for the fiesta. It's simply stupid that a car this new handles this well. It's like a little puppy that always wants to play lol

[@joejeans23]

I’ve got to say I’m so happy that you started this channel ever since I subscribed you have not fail to present Great content from the motor city and surrounding areas keep up the great work manifesting a successful journey 🎉

[@MaxHPower]

Thanks so much!! That means a lot, I’ll keep on striving for the best content for you!🙌

[@swervon617]

Bought a Fiesta ST 2 months ago and I'm already to trade it in for a lower mileage one in a better color so I can modify it. It'll definetly be a forever car.

[@MaxHPower]

Heck yeah! I’ve heard wonderful things about them!

[@zack8819]

I had test driven a couple Fiesta ST's in the past and loved them. I finally got one last Sept that had just under 13,000 miles. I was unaware that the orange cars with Recaro seats also have orange inserts in the seats which sets them apart even more.

[@kylewise3111]

​@@zack8819 I've been trying to find a set of recaros for mine since I got it last July lol, all the sets I come across have the orange inserts, I thought they were all just like that lol

[@nightmaster6381]

Theese cars have more nicknames than street drugs..... egg, FiST, bean, ect

[@MaxHPower]

I’ve been thinking the same thing! 😂😂

[@timomomomo969]

I’m driving a Fiesta ST a few years after selling my Focus ST. They’re different cars, but they share the same formula: torquey little engines, the ability to rotate in turns, with a pretty nice manual as the only transmission option. I think the Focus is more refined, quieter, quicker, but also heavier and with more isolation between the road and driver. The Fiesta reminds me of foundational hot hatches and their lighter weight, quicker reflexes and higher level of driver involvement at lower speeds. Like a Miata, BR-Z or 86, you don’t have to triple the speed limit to have fun in the Fiesta ST. The Focus did not feel like a light car to me. The Fiesta feels like a front-wheel drive Miata, BR-z or 86 with a hatch. And with summer tires, the grip is insane. It’s funny to think that I ended up back behind the wheel of a car like this after so many years, with compromises such as noisy freeway travel, reduced cargo capacity, and fewer comfort and convenience options. If you’re careful, you just might end up like me 😂😂😂

[@Deathbecomesme3]

The FiST is miles better in the curves than the FoST. The real crime is that we never got a Fiesta RS. What a little monster that would have been.

[@Kasper-qr3in]

Asking why he went with a fiesta instead of a focus is like asking a M3 owner why he didn’t go for a M5. Completely irrelevant question, they’re two different models

[@MaxHPower]

I do think there are a lot of people deciding between the two that may be curious to hear.

[@skylor9520]

​@@MaxHPowerdon't listen to this guy

[@kylewise3111]

​@@scottlepotas someone who was shopping for a fun daily last year, I was cross shopping focus st and fiesta st along with civic SI, corolla hatch, and gti, because they can all be bought for similar money by me. It's a valid question by the guy in the video. A few old co workers switched from focus ST to fiesta ST too lol

[@malcolmportelli9059]

I have non st fiesta with 80 hp. I have kw coilovers and good grippy tires. I sometime scare myself in the corners. Although mine has no power compared to an st i fucking love it

[@MaxHPower]

That’s awesome haha

[@portdicksondrive8972]

Me too. Driving 80hp fiesta. Still new. 2 months driving it. Really love how it let me be more in zone whenever I'm driving it. Introspective while driving. Lol

[@sleepyheadhtx]

I had a Fiesta ST, traded it in for an RS, dumped a ton of money in it, then bought another Fiesta ST and eventually sold the RS. The RS was fun going fast, but hated just going slow around town. The Fiesta feels fun doing whatever.

[@MaxHPower]

Thanks for that feedback! That’s super interesting! I have yet to make a video with an RS, but I’m looking forward to it!!

[@kylewise3111]

I second this. I had a golf R but also dumped a ton of money into it to make it feel like my buddies focus RS in stock form lmao. I ended up also switching to a Fiesta ST. Phenomenal daily for sure, it just honestly puts a smile on my face to drive, and the Golf R was one of my dream cars to own. It's insane that I'm more excited to drive a damn fiesta lol

[@picklepee2771]

I need to know more about this car

[@MaxHPower]

Full video on it is on my channel! The owner goes into detail on his mods!

[@themomofmemes467]

That’s why I love the r53 mini so engaging and turns like nothing else

[@darrensurrey]

Smart. The problem with modern cars is that they can be too "luxurious" and heavy so you feel disconnected from the road. You want a car that makes you feel alive even at normal speeds and not accelerating hard.

[@MaxHPower]

100%! Well said!

[@matthewpogrebneak9490]

I never had the opportunity to drive a Fiesta ST, everyone has the same opinion about it. I chose the Focus ST because when I drove one for the first time it spoke to me instantly, the way the car felt and the power just made it a great driving experience. I've taken my ST pretty far with modifications. You really need to experience a Focus ST with a Mfactory/Wavetrac/Quaife LSD. So far my favorite mod I've ever done to my Focus ST is the Mfactory LSD, which changes the entire car.

[@MaxHPower]

Thanks for the feedback! That sounds awesome, I am really looking forward to making a video with a Focus ST! Hopefully I will get that opportunity soon! I doubt you are, but if by chance you’re in Michigan shoot me an email! [e-mail]

[@fastasfent9195]

Have you blew it up before? Everyone I know who nodded the focus has blown up at least once some people like 3 times

[@robbiewahl2435]

@@fastasfent9195I have a built focus on motor 3 and it’s usually because the way people drive. Hitting limiter and 2 step cracks ring lands fast! And pop tunes or pushing the stock turbo hard (anything bolt on and tuned) makes the cylinder head crack and that’s the issues everyone sees on the focus reality don’t hit limiter and put a bigger turbo on it and it becomes an entirely new car however not everyone can do that I understand and that’s where the bad rap comes from unfortunately.

[@fpaltenhoff86]

Honestly, I would be happy to have either one. I used to have a Honda fit sport years ago, and when they announced the fiesta ST, I was contemplating trading the Honda in for one, but I never got the chance.

[@MaxHPower]

Go get one! It’s never to late!

[@LSCBTHEWAVY]

Seen a souped up Fiesta st the other day shit is really clean tbh homie who was driving had a like light charcoal grey color but it had some sick rims and it definitely sounded like it farted flames for breakfast

[@jaynosowsky9708]

I test drove both too...hands down the fiesta st wins. .its crazy fun..the handling is better...its freaking awesome!!! Buy the fiesta st!!

[@GMBStillFree]

Owned both the fiesta is the better car all day. The focus is a better daily if you want more room and more power without modding. The fiesta overall is easier to drive harder, the handling even stock is incredible and the power to weight ratio once modified is satisfying. The fiesta simply put is aimbot on wheels.

[@Jambiswag]

I test drove both I also went with the fiesta

[@BjornKuma]

100% When I drove both on track at the Ford Performance driving school thing when I got my FIST, the Focus was good fun, the Fiesta was great fun, and it confirmed my choice. I live in the mountains, and even driving down to the mailbox is fun in a FIST!

[@twintarbos]

I just got a Focus ST, I think if I was 10 years younger I would've gotten a Fiesta ST, but for me the Focus was a perfect fit, it's more of a (sort of) comfortable and practical commuter car

[@MaxHPower]

Nice! I agree with you there!

[@fordrewls]

I agree as well and I can fit two car seats in easily.

[@nahcuh9140]

He’s 100% right. Especially with the mk8 fiesta st now too. The handling is waaay better than you would expect I still miss mine to this day :’(

[@joeschmoe5009]

I looooove those tail lights

[@daPorkchop]

Just got rear ended in my FoST by a dodge ram truck. I would say he was going about 30mph without braking. My gfs 10yo was in the back seat. Me and his older brother in the front. No one seriously injured. We are all sore today except the 10yo. I genuinely wonder if the Fiesta can protect us like the focus did

[@MaxHPower]

Dang, I’m glad no one was hurt!

[@nightmaster6381]

Im glad you are all ok. Honestly, at that speed and that size of a truck, im surprised no one was hurt. The diference in size is inches as far as length, so i doubt the FiST would be any less safe. I say its a miricle. The problem isnt wether or not 2 cars almost identical except in size are more safe than the other. The problem is 9/10 people who own trucks have literally no legit truck use reasons to own a truck. I say this as i drive a truck for a living. I drive large loaded trucks for 8hrs a day while these idiots go buy trucks and modify them to be the size of my work truck - but then they drive what, an hour per day?!! Trucks are for work, and unfortunately you were the vicim of the result of a grown man/woman playing with work tools like a child playing with their dads power tools. You were the victim of some grown man/womans fragile American ego where they felt they had to own a large truck or they arent really a man. Glad you are all safe, and thats too bad about your FoST. I hope you can find another one or something else that gives you that feeling. But dont let dumb truck/suv/crossover owners stop you from getting something you enjoy.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

You had me at girlfriend’s 10 year old

[@kodiakrl1094]

This car in in traverse city. I met this guy at a car meet

[@MaxHPower]

Yessir!! Cadillac and Traverse! He’s a great guy!

[@kodiakrl1094]

@@MaxHPower ya! I have a grey focus rs if you see me arounf

[@MaxHPower]

@@kodiakrl1094 dang! Shoot me a message on Instagram @maxhpower

[@SergeantSniper]

I already have a FoST, but I would *love* to drive a FiST someday.

[@ChrisHondaProductions]

Nice build !!!!!

[@gg.chucky]

Yup I want one

[@CurtF94]

Fiestas only come to America recently,they’ve been in Europe since the 80s. I passed my test in a fiesta,it was my own car actually it was a 99 mk5 and was rusty but I done my driving test in it. I think the examiner just wanted to get out of it tbh 😂😂😂

[@johngallo7383]

I have a 22 Explorer ST and I just got a new exhaust put on and I have of other mods ready to go. The guy installing my Exhaust said I wouldn't go that far with it. If you really like the car you drive then do what you can afford and what makes you happy. I plan on 10K more in mods over then next year or so. Going to make it really fun SUV to drive!👍

[@thisbelettuce9509]

Okay but whatever those seat straps are imma need a link for those ASAP

[@Jambiswag]

It's just a harness

[@rbwarrior1212]

My first car is a fiesta 1.6 turbo stage 2 tune I start driving it in late 2024 my mom uses it when she isnt driving her rang

[@MaxHPower]

Nice! That’ll be super fun!

[@KurumaDesigns]

The styling choices is not my cup of tea but respect to the owner for taking pride in it 👌🏻

[@MaxHPower]

Nice to see a friendly comment like this! Way to respect!🙌🙌

[@OurNotSoSeriousLife]

Im new to the focus group. My daily is a Focus Svt. More smile per hour.

[@MaxHPower]

Haha very nice!! Enjoy it, sounds fun!

[@clutchbleach2057]

All these sweet newer builds and im over here wanting someone to ls swap a buick century or something wild like that 😂

[@enigma-sama2509]

He drives what he likes and thats cool as fuck

[@MaxHPower]

🙌

[@DriveWithAndy]

Here here

[@tyronenosworthy1874]

I have both and i hate my focus. My fiesta makes me smile every time i drive it.

[@benjaminmoon3248]

❤

[@superclawsy]

My wife got a Fiesta ST back in May. Its her first manual, and dude can she drive it. She really wanted a Focus ST or GTI, but the Fiesta ST was more affordable. About to throw on a catless downpipe and get it tuned. Might end up being quicker than my 08 Mustang GT, but not for long!

[@MaxHPower]

That’s freakin awesome, good for her!! Sounds super fun!

[@barringtonbig9203]

Fiesta is the best handling car ford ever made

[@tyronsmusic9534]

The focus is way beter ngl

[@chrisevans9134]

Are they same wheels as Lancia Delta integrale Evoluzione?

[@MaxHPower]

They could be, I’m not positive though! I know these ones have been discontinued unfortunately.

[@WaffleStomper69]

Fiesta ST or go in a different direction for Focus RS. Focus ST has it's place for a cheap fun car and project platform, but I would go for the Fiesta ST for the same reasons he said. Wish we had the Yaris GR and I wish the Fiat 500 Abarth was still a thing, even if it was a cheap deathtrap. I have the RS for a fun daily, and I always keep some kind of roaster (mx5, z3, etc) in my stable for the same reason he likes the ST. It's just fun. If I wasn't partial to verts, The Fiesta, 500 Abarth, z3 Coupe, or the alike would be on the table.

[@josias.qr25]

I'm cross shopping both, and long term I think I'd be more satisfied with the FoST because of the looks, features, space, and higher base HP. They aren't that different in price either, I'm finding plenty of FoSTs online under $15k with less that 100k miles. I recently found a FoST ST3 for $11.9k and less than 100k miles. I'm in the works of pulling the trigger on that deal. Will update later.

[@MaxHPower]

That’s awesome, sounds like you may have found a great deal! I hope it works out for you!🙌

[@brianlee2646]

I've driven both and own a focus at now. All you need to do is upgrade the coils in the focus and it will handle with the best of them. Plus it's faster

[@xlr8jaeger]

Id be more honest. For me, I got a focus st instead of rs cause I couldn’t afford it. 8 years later I can afford an rs but it makes more sense to upgrade the turbo instead 😊

[@SKITYSTUDIOS]

Cmon g

[@brkscat92]

Ele tem bom gosto

[@damionspittles1847]

People talk down on them so bad because the lower (base) models are fairly pathetic both spec and power wise but with a few upgrades to the mk7 ecoboost engine they’re almost unstoppable. Especially for under 10k with mods included

[@beauvansickle1777]

The FiST is more nimble and lively, but the Focus feels more premium with the ST3 package. The Focus is also a more comfortable long distance car. I ended up going with the FoST for the space and comfort factor since I do a fair amount of roadtrips.

[@MaxHPower]

Fair enough!

[@Woo.f32]

Face says it all

[@EthanJamesBriers]

Where do u get them in 5 door with sun roof that’s unreal

[@youngrusyyt720]

Idk much about them but they’re big in rally, like all the rallies I’ve been to you’ll see em everywhere

[@MaxHPower]

Very true! Super popular for that!

[@KillnYall13]

I just bought both a 14 fiesta st and a 18 focus st

[@MaxHPower]

Heck yeah haha, that’s the way to do it!

[@Melvin_RongDong]

Are they both four dours? They'd look so much better as 2 doors

[@GZ187]

UK versions are usually 2 door

[@gunsnrosesforever100]

Also the focus is more expensive with the same options more or less, the same amount of power can be achieved with bolt ons on a fiesta st and the fiesta st weighs less. They are truly little go karts

[@MaxHPower]

True!

[@s5SnipEmo]

Slow cars are more fun. I went from a modded Mk7 Golf to a stinger GT2 to a Corolla hatch 6mt. The Corolla is just as fun, slamming gears in a little hatchback is the best

[@MaxHPower]

Yes!! I totally understand where you’re coming from! It’s the whole experience of the car that matters, not just speed!😁

[@NEMESISISDEAD]

lol i just went from a 2012 Buick Regal GS 6Spd to a 6spd Nissan Versa i have more fun driving the Versa wtf

[@jaym2569]

I replaced my srt-4 with a fiesta st the fiesta is a bad ass car.

[@MaxHPower]

Heck yeah! They are awesome!

[@sxnfvr]

would rather the srt4 lol

[@NEMESISISDEAD]

whhaaaa i been looking for an SRT4 for so long i remember when they first came out

[@jaym2569]

@@sxnfvr it ended up sitting a lot due to career and family stuff,it needed and engine rebuild. I had to compromise sadly lol

[@jessebudelman]

Now someone should 1.6 ecoboost swap a mid 90’s ford escort hatch, that would be fun.

[@MaxHPower]

That would be awesome haha!!

[@dragoscostyn6895]

It's lighter than the focus and the way it takes corners and bends it's so much quicker

[@gavincardwell2223]

So does my vibe

[@SalMadrigal-lm3ob]

I love my fiesta

[@MaxHPower]

They are pretty awesome cars!

[@evceygomez]

Oh well .. what can i say? ......I LOVE MY FOCUS ST✌️✌️✌️

[@TopSecretZ]

When adding power the Fiesta is comparable with the rs because of the weight

[@BigDaddysPlati]

Ok time out! Anyone notice those plastic snap buckles on the “safety harness”? That’s a big no for me! Upgrade that first😂

[@collinwiedel]

The CAE shifter is pefrection

[@-PLAYER0NE-]

The only reason i got the focus is because i have a 2 yr old lol. Even if i was single i would probably still go for the focus though i love that car

[@anonamos6086]

Fiesta ST all day (focus owner).

[@Troydizl]

Hot hatch!

[@cueball6969]

Smiles per gallon on the Fiesta ST are off the scale

[@RNGJack1]

Try a mini jcw, those deffo feel faster than the fiesta and deffo feel like a go kart

[@MaxHPower]

Those are awesome cars!

[@NEMESISISDEAD]

more unreliable

[@RNGJack1]

@@NEMESISISDEAD depends which engine, luckily I have the N18 but N14 are dogshit

[@jonyleche3549]

Aren't the transmissions on the Fiesta and focus really bad though?

[@leonardotorres4662]

The automatic Dual clutch transmission are the best people just don’t know how to properly drive them 😂 I trash on it single time all the way to 6500 no more cause it will dump on you tho …..also don’t use lunch control on all weather tires

[@paulosicne8498]

"Feels like a street-legal go-cart". For sure, that's why I stopped buying Mustangs, Camaros; etc. I don't care if they're faster. They feel large and heavy when compared to driving a smaller, lighter car. I'll never go back to driving a larger vehicle. Plus smaller cars fit through tight squeezes and you park them with ease.

[@armandolopez6302]

Sounds better to imo

[@rickyclothesband789]

bro put in racing harness for 200 hp

[@MaxHPower]

Can never be to safe😏

[@nickbakey9188]

fiestas run 10s all day focus you got to dump big money

[@johnjackson2349]

Trouble is in the states you guys don't get the mk4 focus st, that car is a different animal altogether, he right though the mk3 focus st is meh, especially compared to the mk7 fiesta st

[@MaxHPower]

I’ve heard this from others as well! Interesting for sure!

[@johnjackson2349]

@@MaxHPower the main difference is the engine, the old 2.0l has a tiny turbo which is difficult to get power out of, the mk4 has the 2.3 ecoboost although different turbo to the focus rs, however a simple stage 1 still yields over 500nm and 330bhp, if your willing to change the turbo 440bhp at the crank although good luck getting that kind of power down

[@Fordfocusstmk3250]

I only have the focus bcus in the UK fiesta st in 5 door are near impossible to get and I needed 4 door car for kids

[@MaxHPower]

Gotcha! Quite common here in the US! The focus is awesome too though!

[@Mona-.-]

Oh that’s why I saw 5 door fiesta st lines going for literally twice the price as the 3 door ones. Explains so much since I basically have the same problem with 2 friends. I just decided one of them gotta climb into the back cuz I can’t afford the 5 doors

[@Fordfocusstmk3250]

@@Mona-.- you can get them but I'm sure it's only between 16 to 18 plate and they are like 10k + lol nuts

[@Mona-.-]

@@Fordfocusstmk3250 yeah on auto trader they started at like 8k and I was not happy

[@DrivenMind]

Fiestas look and sound better. They weigh less too.

[@MaxHPower]

I haven’t ridden in a focus ST yet, I’m looking forward to comparing then!

[@Jackson-xm6xb]

no they don’t lol

[@DrivenMind]

@@Jackson-xm6xb 100% do. The Focus ST is one of the worst sounding 4 bangers. It just sounds flat.

[@kodiakrl1094]

@@DrivenMind get an rs then. Really good sounding car

[@runningwildttv3648]

​@@DrivenMindnone sense.... If you pick the right exhaust they sound really good. Tune has a bit to do with it aswell. MBRP and Cobb do the STs right. Those loud garbage exhausts i would agree with you. The two i listed sound pretty similar to a Boxer engine. I went with MBRP still stock downpipe for now though. I know noise will increase once i get dp but we will see when time comes.

[@chieftex3015]

Why not get a Miata if nimbleness is what you were after. More reliable too

[@ma_dd]

Well it is still an fwd platform so idk (fiesta driver myself)

[@MaxHPower]

For sure! They are both pretty awesome!

[@Motoplugg]

Anyone that asks this question has never driven the cars back to back😂 the fiesta st handles a lot better

[@nasimahm3d]

tbh in a focus st you'd be pissed at yourself for not getting a focus rs lol

[@hshrr7e]

Ford fucked up by making it a four-door I would have loved to have gotten this instead of the focus st but felt too cramped. 2door with more legroom and cargo space. Would have been perfect

[@zoranschultz2146]

Young men is right

[@muhamadazimul4370]

what absorber did u use sir?

[@MaxHPower]

Feel free to checkout the full video I have on this car! The owner’s Instagram is linked in that description and you may ask him!😄👌

[@itsjustakia2256]

KB43❤

[@Slixzered]

I tried to like it. The rear end just disgusts me. It’s like a focus got slammed from behind

[@Mona-.-]

Really? I think the fiesta looks better behind tbh. The focus definitely has a meaner front tho, I think it’s the headlights

[@Slixzered]

@@Mona-.- it’s the taillights for me. They are so tall and make the rear end look smooshed

[@kevinbuchanan67]

On a twisty mountain road, the Fiesta probably beats the Focus

[@K-NineVlog]

Super ganda 😮😮😮

[@picklepee2771]

What shifter is that

[@MaxHPower]

Yeah it’s awesome! There’s a full video of it on my channel, like 6 or 7 videos ago! It should answer any questions you might have!

[@Y2Gambino]

it's cheap yet you put all the money into it to get to a Focus RS.. Makes sense

[@aaronreed585]

how much bhp is it running?

[@MaxHPower]

Approximately 320!!

[@Twongz_does_anything]

id still say a type r ep3 feels more like a go kart

[@MaxHPower]

Those are fun little cars!!

[@Brandonr757sGaming]

We don't have those here in the states 😅 we got the Si but not the Type R. That would be a good comparison car tho; I'd say this does a good job of feeling very similarly gokart-y even though it's over 10 years later with much more safety regulation to meet.

[@Twongz_does_anything]

And a renult clio 182

[@Brandonr757sGaming]

@@Twongz_does_anything That's a bit older and, again, something we DEFINITELY don't have here in the U.S., haha. The difficulty of finding a good-handling and/or light car in any category is much harder here in the U.S. where everyone wants trucks or SUVs, and manufacturers hardly make cars (let alone ones that are sporty/handle well).