Fifth Gear Crash Test- Land Rover Discovery vs Renault Espace

Taken from Series 9, Episode 2 of Fifth Gear. They simulate a 40mph crash test between Land Rover Discovery and a Renault Espace. Watch from 5:50 to see the crash!
This is not original work. I do not own the property or rights to any filming or soundtrack in this video.

[@zombielord102]

I own a Land Rover discovery.... watching this was heavy on my heart... I could of used those parts

[@cherfan5]

LOL

[@chaoszombie9995]

There are still tons of useable parts though, like boot lids tail lights ETC but yea it does hurt to see one go like that

[@BigNat3000]

Xpenguinkillr12 *could have

[@toxy3580]

This happened like 15 years ago

[@angievalenzuela2018]

For real

[@johnnyvvlog]

tbh the most impressive thing is being able to walk away from a 40mph head on crash. Can't imagine how many lives these new technologies have saved already.

[@Rosbergen80]

Yes

[@firebladerider7050]

6:20 if you want to see the crash

[@khaledaska]

👍

[@PaulTaylor80]

This is an educational video,if you like crashes you're searching the wrong thing

[@ZADNITCO]

+FireBlade Rider Thanks, bro!

[@xxxenricop]

+FireBlade Rider thanks

[@PaulTaylor80]

+deiz nutz nonce

[@wishfix]

It's a good thing that a discovery doesn't go over 40mph in real life.

[@drekipookiebear]

it does over 100 mph what do you mean

[@bluelightasmr6201]

@@drekipookiebear he’s making a joke.. slow but reliable, we have one 0-60 in 9.36 secs

[@freddierowe-crowder7178]

@@bluelightasmr6201 2.5l disco here and it does 0.60 in like 20 seconds if youre giving it the beans

[@bluelightasmr6201]

@@freddierowe-crowder7178 lol

[@BuckeyeMCS]

Boy, that footage of the child seat during the crash in the Discovery was very telling...Oh wait, you did not show any.

[@thegameshowgeek]

True, they didn’t get a camera on that one it seems. However, the fact that the child’s leg is up against the seat in front of them in the discovery post-crash doesn’t bode well for them either.

[@randy109]

Having been in Law Enforcement since 1979 and my mother a CHP Matron/Dispatcher since 1970, I have seen too many vehicle accidents up close. Air Bags and mandatory Seat Belts and Shoulder Harnesses have come of age in my adult lifetime. I have seen people literally "walk away" from accidents that would have certainly been Fatal just 30 years ago. My own daughter was in a terrible crash during her 3rd year of University in 2002. She was driving her 2000 Kia Sephia and T-Boned a full sized Van at 50+ miles per hour. She was uninjured. That little Kia remained structurally sound and her airbag and seatbelts worked perfectly. The seat even remained intact in its mounts and the 'crumple zone' crushed while leaving the firewall and dashboard totally intact. Had she been in a 1970 Chevrolet she would have certainly been killed, even though the big old Chevy weighed 1500 pounds more than her Kia. We take for granted today what would have been traumatizing just 30 years ago. Buckle Up!

[@vargata]

lol, t-boned a van with 50? thats like hitting a very soft wall, that speed wouldnt be fatal in anything, we t-boned an other car in a golf1 at 90kmph and didnt even get hurt. lets see her walking away from that kia hitting the van frontally both driving 50mph...

[@mickm5097]

It's unfortunate to see the dumb replies. I agree, today's cars are much safer. Yes, if you bang into someone at 5mph, a 30 year old car may come away less damaged. But if you hit something at 40 mph, your body will come away a lot less damaged in a 2 year old car than even a giant 30 year old car.

[@mapley2167]

www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/kia/sephia-spectra-4-door-sedan/2000

[@hatchetman29]

randy109 IIHS crash of a vintage Bel Aire head on with the contemporary Malibu (you may have already seen this): kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIGpZZl4fLN-Zrc

[@mikeporro3311]

@@hatchetman29 How can u judge accurately when the belair is 60 yrs old. Metal fatigue.

[@lucarnetrange]

Thanks for this interesting video. At 3:20 it is clear that the Espace has a much shorter bonnet, which made the result of the test interesting. It prooves that a good shock absorption design can really save one's life. I'll try to remember that for my next car.

[@Wh3atley]

And, what was your next car?

[@CountryHouseGent]

Don't you just love modern TV programmes. They spend the first 5 minutes on the 'build up', then go for a break, then come back and spend another minute reminding you what you've just watched. STOP IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, I'M NOT STUPID !!!!!!!

[@BadDriversofCentralArkansas]

You may be, but the average person is extremely stupid.

[@gra100ful]

You are totally correct, the older I get the more I realise that 'most' are extremely stupid - how most earn a living is beyond me.After spending 30 years in industry, mostly as a systems engineer and the last few years in a 'retirement job' in a school I now know why the youth of today haven't got a clue............they are taught by those that haven't got a clue !!

[@sah3343]

espacede bişey patliyor

[@bernatmihaly4045]

de asemenea se poate face prin posta 138$

[@tugrulsen536]

Sahin Kaplan Hava yastığı kapsülü . SRP sistem kullanir Renault kemer takılı olmasada tepki anında hava yastığı açar .

[@irelandbloke]

Why not just show the crash from one angle in normal motion first ?. I hate this 25 different angles in the last 2 seconds before impact bullshit. At least there's no shitty rock music throughout the video I suppose....

[@MikeG52]

its called indian dramatisation xd

[@cadonbarton1933]

I still love the Land Rover Discovery/LR series.

[@A_Degenerate_with_Glasses]

"Older cars are safer than the new ones because new ones has too much plastic!" This video and many other videos on youtube will prove those type of people wrong.

[@user-jt6xh2ln9z]

Now do the test with a polo or mini

[@PaulTaylor80]

Don't be silly

[@PaulTaylor80]

+Seized Cheese you're just mad because you own a corsa LOL

[@armymatt83]

+Donny Donster yep, those people like to think the entire car is made out of plastic but it's not. there may be plastic body work but the underlying structure is metal and that's what really matters.

[@tom100hp]

don't be silly virtually all new car are 5* there thinking of introducing more * ratings because of this

[@tomsharman3136]

What I find incredible is how the Espace driver side window is completely fine. Love Renaults.

[@KretinoSantino]

Both families would be perfectly safe as they would be in living room while both old Range Rover & Espace would be in service station :D

[@sexynamesmiff5917]

its a disco

[@dextertreehorn]

7:55 Renault speedometer still intakt and on power.

[@atarvhegde5210]

It took me a while to I understand that the Speedo was in the middle

[@32bit15]

@@atarvhegde5210 me too

[@toby9055]

Wow. It is incredible how many people commenting don't understand the point of the test. It's not which is safest, people carrier or 4x4 It's to answer which is the safest £10K vehicle for your family, based on used values at the time (2006) - as budget is likely to be the deciding factor in such a purchasing decision. Watch and listen!

[@Cdmxforever]

This is to be expected. You put a model of vehicle with 20+ years technology to a newer more modern and with superior technology vehicle. I want to see the same test; but this time with a 2017 model Rover.

[@vittorio870]

+rover09151976em Got Cash !?

[@magnetau]

+rover09151976em The Espace is 2003, why should one compare it with a 2017 rover? ..oh ..I know..because a 2003 espace compares with a 2017 rover :)

[@cobusventer8188]

ok so why compare a 2003 Espace with a 1980s discovery. I would put my family in a disco 4 over anything else

[@samshasteen1252]

What the hell are you tlaking about over, 20 years newer?!

[@interceptor-ss8kb]

They could have used a Discovery 3 they cost next to nothing now, but I still think the Escape would win, it was built for nothing but safety.

[@TorreyBraman]

This was really interesting!

[@someamazingpenguin8531]

"we don't want our faces full of agressive cup holder" this statement was so funny

[@mightyslaylay8142]

oh for god sake its like a 1990 discovery and then a 2003 espace

[@MrSpookylukey]

+Mac Kent it's a discovery 1 from 1989-1998. It's a poor test. They are saying the espace is a £10,000 car whereas a second hand disco 1 is worth about £900-£2000. It seems they chose it because all discoverys have a common shape and are easily misjudged as later examples, for the main reason of creating shock to the public for better ratings. If you test a discovery 3 or 4 against the modern equivalent espace I think the results would be very different.

[@shadowblack1987]

+MrSpookylukey 10 year old video.

[@MrSpookylukey]

+Shadow Black your point being?

[@eccIefechan]

The Discovery was also developed on an extremely low budget, sharing many components with the original Range Rover whose design dates back to 1970.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Even fifth gear is better than the new top gear

[@Cynchronia]

That's just cold. Lol

[@fj2339]

legioner9 fifth gear was never better than top gear it is utter 💩

[@invalidcrazy7034]

@@tafdiz What kind of monster are you

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

Simon George - Sticking pins in my eyes would be better than the TG was when you wrote your comment. And now TG is even worse with those three (Sorry TWO, as Chris Harris is still OK!) muppets in charge. McGuinness and Flintoff. What were the BBC thinking? There is zero report between the three of them and they are just not funny.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@invalidcrazy7034 - They're a brainless one :-))...

[@A1111272]

There is no surprise that new models are usually safer than old models...

[@MrSupercar55]

Plus 4x4s tend to be designed differently. That and 4x4 tax would deter me from owning a 4x4. If I did drive a 4x4, I would not drive it on the road much. I'd be too busy cruising through fields to even notice the traffic on the roads that I had bypassed.

[@A1111272]

Well...this video is made for those parents who thought "SUVs are always safer". As for off-road users, the safety standard seems to be slightly different from the regular crash test.

[@andrewgreen3564]

MrSupercar55 s

[@maztipu4531]

Is it? which sedan or SUV is more safer

[@USSPhoenix23]

especially since the other suvs they showed were x5s and volvo xc90s and other modern suvs

[@mipmipmipmipmip]

horrible repetitive editing, impossible to watch, and this is even without having to watch ads inbetween

[@John_Doe....]

this is how you solve having no content to fill your show

[@flyingmerkel6]

Another great 3 minute video stretched out to over 9 minutes

[@gemth9853]

Tbh your just an idiot. If im totally honest, I find the editing useful.

[@mr.beefschurger3373]

your just a hater of this TV channel

[@patchp009]

Thats shit 5th gear for you......thick overpaid wankers.

[@matekochkoch]

To all claiming this would not be fair. It is a used car comparison with two cars of the same price level. In general you can say newer > older and on new cars expensive > cheap. It was for people having 10k pounds and are looking for a secure family car. To me this test makes perfectly sense

[@stanpyrzanowski]

Just about when the cars were to crash, I forgot what I was watching. I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Thanks for the quick reminder. That way a video which could've been 7 second long, including a comment which car is better, took 10 min to watch.

[@markeith081193]

But what if you compare same model year? I had a 2003 discovery that a friend had crashed and I feel the results would be different

[@SMOKYMTNPATRIOT]

The most amazing part was the Land Rover wasn't in the shop (again) and could actually be there for the test.

[@scottm5425]

well it did need a cable to pull it along

[@kubol1909]

I love how you can see the airbag filling up with gases 6:20

[@ElectronicsTechnoMusic]

WooW Good Job ;) You Rock Man

[@hatimsalim1355]

This was very pleasant and very light on my heart like a feather, typically like sitting on top of the mountain and watching the French and the English killing and Slaughtering each other

[@RetroMotiveAdventures]

Nooo I feel so bad for this poor disco... I know look at mine like "I'll never let that happen to you"

[@Wasmachineman]

Cool, 0:19 is music from Wheeler Dealers!

[@WhispersOfWind]

lol nearly hours of footage, hours of speech to relay 10 second information. Gots to love that.

[@bggdodge]

Are we just not gonna talk about the fireball coming out of the airbag on the Espace?!

[@muhammadiqbaltawakkal4506]

Nice comment

[@Sir_Budginton]

All airbags are literally inflated with explosives, that's why you should never mess or play with them. It's the only way to fill them up in milliseconds, and even if it was possible to fill them up with compressed air you can't expect a bottle of super compressed air sitting in a car to not slowly leak away over 20+ years.

[@charlesmacgilchrist3648]

At the beginning when the bumpers touch at a few mph....that's severe whiplash claims on insurance right there!

[@PaulTaylor80]

I'll take a few grand if someone insists

[@fonziebulldog5786]

With todays fuel prices in Europe the 4x4 have become nearly impossible to sell.

[@polygamous1]

Who would have believed this B4 the crash? almost unbelievable a Land Rover coming second best to an MPV it goes to show how wrong we can all be at times many thanks so informative

[@ahemgee9542]

I wouldn't have expected an ancient body on frame Landrover to be that good in a crash test.

[@Toyota_Fortuner]

im crying cause that land rover is my favorite

[@playsinmud]

Did anyone else see the fireball that the Espace spit out of the steering wheel at 6:20?

[@nuwanpremarathne1759]

+playsinmud that's the airbag firing up

[@UnsyNZ]

+playsinmud Airbags have to inflate very quickly, so its done by using a pyrotechnic explosion

[@playsinmud]

+UnsyNZ In all the crash test videos I've watched, I've never seen an airbag spit a fireball, especially one of that impressive nature. I understand that airbags have to inflate quickly, but with a pyrotechnic charge big enough to take out half a city block, that seems fucky.

[@UnsyNZ]

playsinmud It may be because this is an older car, before dual stage airbags were around. Dual stage airbags can tell between low and high speed impacts, and vary the explosion force that inflates the airbag accordingly. That may be why you don't see it in newer crash test videos

[@sreenxth]

+playsinmud I saw. The fire ignites to pump the airbag but the fire was too big. That is what I was wondering about

[@Rigel_Chiokis]

The stiff, heavy chassis of a 4x4 is great for low speed impacts with trees, rocks, dropping into ditches etc. In otherwords, off road driving incidents. It's not so great in high speed collisions with other motor vehicles.

[@JUKE179r]

That's the fastest I've ever seen a Land Rover Discovery move.

[@stuarth43]

if I start my d4 in ist gear I can spin the wheels at the lights, normally it starts in second, at 2500kg plus it's no snail, I have towed 4000kg one thousand km from Sydney to Buderim

[@stevefuller1779]

I wonder what would have happened had they been square on?

[@CptSchmidt]

Fifth Gear has a thing for Renaults. What they do in several of their videos is they take a brand-new, current-year model of a Renault and stack it up against an objectively safer manufacturer, but from a model that is 15+ years older. In this case, they took what looks to be a 2012 or 2013 model Espace and crashed it with an early '90s Discovery. They then go on about how the child would be safer in a Renault than a Range Rover. I would like to see them do the same thing, except use the same year model (or even within 2 to 3 years) Range Rover. I don't think a 2012 Espace and a 2012 Discovery would be as forgiving to the Espace as this. There is another video they made in which a 1993 or '94 Volvo 940 is crashed into a 2012 Renault Modus. The Modus wins, but again, the car is almost 20 years newer than the Volvo. Even worse, they removed the engine from the Volvo, so who knows if the Modus would have actually won. They then go on and on about how Renaults are safe compared to the Volvo, as if Volvo's record on safety means absolutely nothing. Of course, they don't crash a 2012 V70 into the 2012 Modus because, well... I think you get the picture. It's like these shows are 25 minute Renault commercials.

[@RalfFinne]

CptSchmidt the Modus and the 940 was actuallu about how a newer small car is safer than an old big car. So of course you needed an older car for that thing. The narrator clearly says that the 2 cars are what you get for the same price..... And 4×4 cars are more expensive... so of course it will be older. Everyone understands that this test necceserely does not go for 2 brand new cars

[@lukeyang5580]

CptSchmidt I agree with you, they did emphasize how these cars were what you could get for the same price. In the Volvo vs modus one,they talked about saving money vs going all out.

[@mattyg267]

The modus was a 2004 car. Hence the 54 plate reg and the fact that it was on a 2004 episode of fifth gear... lol

[@mattyg267]

And this espace is a phase 1, which is a 2003 design.

[@CptSchmidt]

Regardless, it's still approaching 15 years newer than the Range Rover.

[@ryancraig2795]

The Espace probably handles and brakes better, making avoiding an accident more likely. Crash tests are interesting, along with the ratings, but I think there's a little too much emphasis on them - the best way to walk away from an accident uninjured is to not be in one in the first place. Of course, all things being equal I'd rather have the vehicle with better crash ratings, but I'm not going to get rid of my 2011 vehicle because 6 year newer vehicles have better crash ratings. It would certainly factor in (but not predominate) to my buying decision on a new vehicle, though.

[@PatrickBaptist]

I really liked the Discovery II I owned a 03 model, raise it up on big tires and put a huge steel bumper on the front. Never wrecked it thank God but yeah it didn't look like it could take alot, thus why I put a big bull bar on the front. Thing was the best stock 44 I've ever driven/owned.

[@themancuniancandidate2744]

The Discovery is a tarted up 70s Range Rover, with 70s crash protection.

[@ethans7875]

Low N Slow not 70s more like 90s. Probably 1992

[@santileonsteinberg1441]

RoadCarReviews No, the structure, engines and such date back to the BL 1970s era. And initial development to the early eighties. However, they sold these without any significant structural improvements until 2004, so this is a fair test in my opinion, as the Espace they used was also on sale in 2004.

[@getplaning]

The Discovery is an aluminium bodied car based on a chassis that came out in 1973, the Espace is a CAD designed car that came out in 2002. Try crashing an Espace against a 2005 Discovery III. No contest.

[@user-cc9gy3fq5c]

That's a discovery 2

[@MrTribalsun]

Try to do that but with the safest SUV in the planet so far, The VOLVO XC60. Then I'll guarantee you that your opinion will change.

[@bradleycruse1996]

marcwel_ discovery 2 had different headlamp clusters and rear lights, that’s a 1

[@bradleycruse1996]

marcwel_ @2:55

[@toby9055]

Missing whole point of the video. It's to answer which is the safest £10K vehicle for your family, based on used values at the time.

[@edwintodd627]

And how much did you cut out of the Disco to make it the same weight as the espace?

[@one2nd1]

These fifth gear crash tests is what makes this program better than top gear.

[@godfreypoon5148]

5:04 - How on earth do crash test dummy children represent the cases of beer?

[@mackan98502]

+Godfrey Poon Always have the beer in the fron passanger seat where i have a airbag. :D . would be disrespectfull to have the beer in the rear seats.

[@Y2Kvids]

My next car.

[@codyallsup5027]

i find it funny that they used an old land rover discovery instead of the same year model as the espace

[@svaddict9499]

Thx Fire

[@Chris56579]

well my discovery 1 has a full external and internal roll cage welded to the chassis, so I'm sure I'll be fine haha

[@sharadms]

You'll definitely be safe in case of a rollover when offroading. Not in high speed crashes.

[@natehawkins2910]

Save your life. Go to 6:10 This could have been a 2 minute vid. So much forwarding! So much blabber!

[@atarvhegde5210]

Thanks a lot

[@natehawkins2910]

Atarv Hegde Any time!

[@ryandever2355]

6:19 why are the espaces brake lights on ?

[@nl3712]

Excellent

[@canonballsimp]

Anyone ever tried off-roading a Renault Espace?

[@canonballsimp]

@Jay Leno I had a Disco, it was awesome off-road, and I never had to spend anything on it... Idiot!

[@himyname4708]

Fuck yes i owned on 2 years ago it was a dream come true

[@xox_momin]

For people in hury please the crash will be held on 6:17

[@233kosta]

A "last minute technical error" is the sort of thing that can easily cost you your life.

[@teamidris]

Discovery mark1 is a 1972 Range Rover underneath and the chassis kinks rather than collapses. If I was to go technical on it I would argue the chassis is too big just in front of the bulkhead letting too much crash force travel into the passenger area. (I race one) Also, small windscreen pillars from that era are something that the car industry changed later on to protect passengers.

[@Romeo_GR]

It is not a sorprising result.We should consider the difference of age between the two cars. The Disco was designed and studied in the 80's and if my memory ...works properly,it was based on Range Rover 1st series that was studied much earlier. For the 80's standards,the Disco was ok , for today's it is not,as well as the 99% of similar age cars.

[@gemth9853]

6:05 is where it happens!!

[@atarvhegde5210]

Sorry but 6:15 is better

[@gemth9853]

@@atarvhegde5210 mate you get to see the build up to the crash

[@atarvhegde5210]

@@gemth9853 Ok.. I was just talking about the crash.. But this could have been a 5 minute video

[@1100HondaCB]

The Discovery has a typical 'ladder frame' chassis. The Espace has a monocoque construction with reinforced areas. Hence why the Espace faired better in the test.

[@olivierolivier6360]

Good job

[@Lar308]

It was not a direct comparison as the Landrover was ancient in relation to the espace. But the child in the Landrover was smarter as he put his leg up against the driver's seat in order to better brace for impact.

[@badnewswade]

Err, pretty sure he'd have lost that leg if he'd done that

[@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM]

Even in a test, the land rover had a fault.

[@petyakov9200]

The land rover is a 1989 body The renault is a 2003

[@petyakov9200]

1:27 That 2004 volvo vs renault would be a huge difference

[@drunkenmonkey5529]

@@petyakov9200 Of Course,,,, So you are telling,, modern days quality better than classic ? i dont think so

[@petyakov9200]

@@drunkenmonkey5529 Not the quality The safety

[@drunkenmonkey5529]

@@petyakov9200 boss... Without quality there is no safety.. if the body is too weak means,, how come a safety measures will save us ?

[@brmbrmcar]

It;s a closing speed of 40... The test was fair and good.

[@titan9259]

Both cars were travelling at 40 mp/h, 40+40=80 mp/h

[@brmbrmcar]

That would be combined over both vehicles, but there are 2 vehicles so it's an average of 40mph closing speed

[@titan9259]

The closing speed it as 80, it would be like the Espace or Discovery hitting another non moving car at 80 mp/h

[@brmbrmcar]

In theory yes, in reality other factors would make it lower (if the stationary car had handbrake on for exmaple it would be more damaging to hit it). But the only accurate thing to say is that it would be similar to hitting an immovable wall at 40mph. And it's incredibly rare to just hit a stationary car anyway unless it's a lower speed rear end.

[@jeremystout8547]

It also depends if the vehicle is on a frame or unibody.

[@CMDR_R.Burnat]

I have an espace 4! Super car!

[@omara04]

So... I wonder what would be the result from flipping the models and using a 2005 Discovery and a 1998 Espace... very different I should think!! Not really a fair test IMHO

[@stamkaly]

Seems like you took it personally haha. The point of the video was to compare the espace that was the best in euroncap with ANY 4x4 that COSTED the same price.

[@MiniFR12]

It's funny to see how many people are getting pissed off over the old disco. The video was recorded in 2005, and they were both similarly priced at the time.

[@akj2387]

(The Discovery 2 was the last Land Rover product to use an evolution of the original 1970 Range Rover underpinnings )

[@acebull7408]

I love my 1998 land Rover Discovery

[@florenceflavien3970]

espace👍💀☠️💪💪💪

[@acebull7408]

But still i think the disco is safer

[@wetlettuce4768]

You'd be better off in the Renault becuase it would breakdown before it had chance to get into a crash.

[@MJ16Othman]

+Wet Lettuce LOOL

[@Bogdanini]

+Wet Lettuce well, you right on 50%=) Land rover would brake even before you'll start driving. So it's a standoff for them.

[@srrjoel6924]

Bogdanini you mean pushoff

[@boosted_builds_n_customs5391]

Bogdanini have you seen how many more classic landrovers there are than Renaults therefore land rovers are better

[@baba0rum]

unknown Tube people take care of the land, not the renault and later complain renault suck. Most of them does not even use genuine part and will say renault suck it only lastes 200k kms... and yet again, renault engine are used in mercedes. Wonder why if renault suck that much.

[@hatimsalim1355]

@ 6:42 he mentioned the beam I am guessing, anyway whatever it is, is connected to “A Crash Member”, I don’t know? But this is the way I heard it… My question is what is a Crash Member?. Because it’s the first time ever I heard of such thing in cars. Anyone please explain and satisfy my curiosity please.

[@Nthstar]

Are new cars still rear crash tested as they used to be?

[@allanarmstrong4333]

i own a 4x4 disco 300tdi. and a ford focus. i would rather be in my diso than my focus in a head on .

[@gabesmath105]

Hopefully in the disco you'd be lucky enough to hit a sedan instead of a same size'er

[@tommurdoch2989]

The discovery is nearly 20yrs old, the espace looks less than 10yrs old. a fair test would have used a 20yr old espace.......wait they've all been scrapped....lol

[@user-cc9gy3fq5c]

Hahhahahah wtf

[@black5f]

Your right, It's a Disco I , '89 - 98, it looks like a '96 300tdi? The french car could be as late as 2014. The airbags didn't go off because of a technical reason .. it never had them fitted, or ABS. I owned one for 21 years (SWMBO made me sell it when I bought the Camaro :-). And a 20 year old Disco chassis does not look that freshly painted ... believe me. It's TV, sponsored, he's following the script. I bet the Renault "driver" caused the "accident" though.

[@xanthuumnihyr5319]

@@black5f The espace is from 2002

[@thecool307]

@@black5f 2014? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Are you living in a jungle or what?

[@liviu-ovidiustefan6858]

Actually, the Espace is tested, not the 4x4....

[@connarcomstock161]

Canadian Here. It's common knowledge here that Trucks/Body-On-Frame SUVs are *not* as safe as you'd think they are.

[@banagher81]

Proudly sponsored by RENAULT

[@stuartcole3759]

The Renault wouldn't even be on the road, it would be in a garage with an electrical fault

[@chi-8289]

British cars would blast before it even reaches garage😂🤣🤣

[@stuartcole3759]

The reason it crashed was that the crash test dummies were distracted from driving buy all the flashing warning lights in the Renault

[@shepturley]

That's why they are so safe lol

[@petyakov9200]

The renault is a car body after Euro NCAP But the land rover is a before Euro NCAP regulations NOT FAIR CRASH TEST AT ALL take a look at 1:55

[@stephen10.]

Stuart Cole my uncle had a rover 2500 and it has burned in the city after an electric fail. it was in the 80 ´s but i remember it . A pity because i liked this comfortable english car . now he has a nissan 4x4 made in uk again lol

[@0alexpepper1]

that disco is gorgeous. what a waste

[@Hunter76251]

+x0xAlexPepper ikr

[@tz6414]

that disco is a death trap, breakers is best place for it.

[@Danim24]

It was probably fucked which is why they used it. Gearbox knackered, electrics shagged, engine rattly, transfer box buggered.... need I go on?

[@interceptor-ss8kb]

it's a piece of sh## death trap, Airbags didn't even work typical Land rover quality.

[@peterpeterson9903]

This model didn't have airbags as standard.

[@tmgeza]

I want to know what technical fault led to the discovery airbag not deploying that is very very very serious and should not be brushed aside at all

[@pentrudreptate3342]

I want to see more crash test like this. Audi A6 with BMW 5 and Mercedes E clase.

[@ph4tboy]

interesting to see if a bullbar would've helped the discovery

[@Z0neDrift]

Not really. In a crash, all the energy will be sent through the cars body, bending and crumpling the softest parts first. Adding strong parts wont help dissipate the energy. Thats why newer cars have crumple zones.

[@kennycoinneach1712]

Perhaps ph4tboy is being sarcastic. I would hope so.

[@rick7858]

A bit unfair don't ya think?Talking about a soccermom SUV, and showing clips of BMW X5's, Cayenne's, and finally coming up with a 20 year old Disco :/

[@reiknir]

+Rick van den Berg The film is more than 10 years old

[@COM70]

Two vastly different generation cars. Would have preferred to see a discovery 3 as they are closer in generation.

[@matthiasrottler947]

While crashing something in the Espace was burning for a short time. What was it?

[@instintaniously]

not entirely sure this is fair, maybe if they put a disco of the same age against it there would be a better comparison. and not all 4x4s have a chassis. im not convinced just yet

[@mrspenn1611]

no..... its a closing speed of 40 mph....!

[@gemwalker2365]

No if both cars are doing 40 then the closing speed is 80

[@armymatt83]

+URMz no the closing speed is 80 but the impact is like hitting a solid wall at 40.

[@atsernov]

+Stephen Pennell It's a closing speed of 80. Meaning if the one was standing still and the other was driving at 80 MPH you'd get the same result. What your thinking is that it is similar loading as hitting an immovable object at 40.

[@mrspenn1611]

atsernov apologies ... I should have typed an impact equivalent to 40mph. Both vehicles will collapse as though hitting an object at 40. Seen it on one of the car shows.... same damage as a 40mph hit.....cant remember which show though....

[@stevefuller1779]

+Stephen Pennell , That can't be right, two vehicles travelling at forty miles per hour will contain a lot more inertia than one and this all has to go somewhere.

[@Hawkertempest1]

The Disco is an old technology vehicle that doesn't represent the modern SUV chassis design of today. That particular model Disco would be at least late 70's chassis safety technology. Hardly a fair comparison really.

[@ButchE30M3S14]

Glad I got a thick winchbumber on my D1. Outcome would be still be devastating, but definitely less worse then this result.

[@THELURKER1458]

6:20 bring a fire engine the car is on fire!!

[@flight2k5]

i could have told you newer is better than older

[@flight2k5]

***** no, modern day vehicles are far safer. You're ignorance is rather silly.

[@armymatt83]

+shaggy plastic bumper covers don't matter what matters is the underlying structure which is always metal and newer cars are designed to meet crash standards that hadn't even been thought up yet with older model. I have a 2002 v8 4x4 suv it has plenty of steel having a fully boxed frame and live axle in the back and if will do fine protecting me if I rear end somebody or have a head on but If I have a crash that reassembles the offset crash test it won't do much. why because it was designed before that test was come up with. and yes your example is retarded the 14 ton driver's injuries had nothing to do with damage to the truck they were from the sudden unexpected impact and no car can take being broadsided by another car doing 100mph flat out not possible doesn't matter the year or make, being hit on the rear half of the side and the rear being demolished but the front ok doesn't count so some is lying either you or your dad.

[@eccosabanovic1589]

+flight2k5 ..go against Volvo 240 GL..

[@flight2k5]

+Ecco Sabanovic go what against Volvo?

[@flight2k5]

***** cool?

[@joshualee6119]

Is it just me or did the steering wheel on the espace intrude a fair bit into the passenger compartment

[@TheSaltyAdmiral]

Having huge SUV not only does nothing to protect yourself, it also does a lot to endanger others(more mass).

[@cmdraslima1924]

erm... I get that 4x4's are not safe.... But at least do a test on vehicles that are similar in age.

[@Hubert101010]

Value or vehicle type is irrelevant. Just show us cars from the SAME YEAR! Age and technology is THE variable.

[@toby9055]

Missing whole point of the video. It's to answer which is the safest £10K vehicle for your family, based on used values at the time.

[@johnmurray7419]

You dont get to choose what car you crash into in the real world. Old cars crash into newer ones all the time. This is a good test for that reason! Shows you how rubbish older cars are compared to modern designs.

[@Collateralcoffee]

I wonder about that technical fault.... I wonder if it was not just a malfunction due to the airbags in the Disco being old... and they try to smooth it over by request from Landrover.

[@bastiendelanot355]

I don't understand english very well so which is the more secure ?