Our very own www.Subaruownersclub.com member Boot's Legacy Spec-B been reviewed on Fifth Gear by the one and only Tiff Needell. With a couple of other cars...
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@MD-uu5nt3 жыл бұрын
£1500 for an 850r. Ha, what a time. You'd be lucky to get a good one for £8k now!
@jacobdzik62383 жыл бұрын
Yes true Bro...8k -12k£ for nice one.in eastern Europe its between 6k€ and 20k for nice modified one. Very good and Quick cars...My old one was doing 100-200 in 9.5 sec....385hp...all day long 7 days a week. 13 years ago..🤣🤣🤣
@anmolsaxena_2 жыл бұрын
8k? one was up for sale for $30k in australia a couple years ago
@mikeclarke60002 жыл бұрын
It’s f*cking ridiculous
@motwhom3230 Жыл бұрын
@@anmolsaxena_ try 35k... really thought it would be a cool first car.
@hitmaniak17375 жыл бұрын
Legacy is great sleeper 👍 and with proper exhaust sounds amazing
@paulgrahamedwardspencer51617 жыл бұрын
Rather have a legacy r spec b than any other car its amazing people think it's just a saloon
@KiwiGraggle4 жыл бұрын
I have a Spec B Twinscroll, which is the best of the bunch I feel. It has 280bhp and all the toys. Imported, but well maintained, has specific boot tray with SUBARU written on it for my dogs, specific SUBARU dog guard, etc, etc. All these things that the likes of BMW, Audi, etc, etc simply do not offer anywhere. The car has the air intake on the bonnet too. Looks the dogs, are quite rare, have technology on them that many cars today I feel lack and the list is endless. I will though have a grinding noise that I think is a spring in the front right checked out again though. It was repaired, but come back again. Not sure what it is yet.
@yamahschector5 жыл бұрын
I would go with a Subaru. But those are all great wagons
@shiftyshamsk3 жыл бұрын
I've got a wrecked Spec B. I took the suspension off, brakes and put them on my 2.5 estate. Now it handles and stops unbelievably well. I have the front bumper and wheels for future use on mine too. My son took the engine out and fitted into a blown blob eye 2.0 Impreza. Should be nippy and sound like a Porsche.
2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what i’m doing for my 2007 2.0r. Can’t wait to drive it
@Nbomber2 жыл бұрын
Subarus are so, so good for this.
@Kacpa2 Жыл бұрын
@@Nbomber Subaru Legos :)
@pablochacon405 жыл бұрын
I got a Subaru Outback 3.0r legacy and I love it .
@TProfileG3 жыл бұрын
I am buying one this week. anything to look out for?
@pablochacon403 жыл бұрын
Check the wheel bearings and look at the serpentine belt and the idlers they are known to go bad . Other that that it’s all good
@RG-in7ks3 жыл бұрын
@@TProfileG Way too late but standard of front exhaust is important too, comes with 3 catalytic converters, two of which are replaced as a pair.
@roddydykes70533 жыл бұрын
It’s unbelievable how Top Gear-like Tiff remained
@5THR33S3 жыл бұрын
Loving the fact we got the ej20 turbo in australia, awesome car
@michaelhall22283 жыл бұрын
Even better we got the ej257
@chrischoy92 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall2228 The EJ20 turbo was actually more reliable though like with the oil squinters in cylinder 4 which fixes the Ringland issues.
@Kacpa2 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall2228 EJ25 is quite awful long term tho. 2.0L is infinetly more reliable nad got more advanced twinscroll turbo. No ringland problems, no headgasket issues, its slightly lighter and more economical too and lower taxes too as insurence companies add scammy price hikes for cars above 2.0L displacement. EJ25 is not worth all this trouble.
@maybenot60752 жыл бұрын
Love the fact the only thing they could point out on the subaru was the normal consumerable parts, japanese barn door engineering you cant ever go wrong with 👌
@krystophm17304 жыл бұрын
I have a 4th gen legacy gt. Have to say I've paid for it twice since purchase with all the add ons
@jackpez2 жыл бұрын
that specb is so pretty i want it
@somethingelse19883 жыл бұрын
Subaru all day
@unzulaessig3 жыл бұрын
5k for a spec b, congrats!
@khalil_972 жыл бұрын
Subaru for all day
@1stmissingsnowman9 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Legacy is its own chassis with WRX STi suspension & refined gearbox
@gambitsubaru70019 жыл бұрын
Best let Tiff and the crew at 5th gear know then. He clearly says it sits on a WRX chassis in the video.
@xt6wagon9 жыл бұрын
Gambit Subaru Most accurately, The WRX/STi used a updated legacy chassis at its refresh. When that era of legacy was launched it was quite a bit better than the WRX platform. Less weight on the nose, rear suspension that works, and stiffer. The US Legacy GT with 250hp 2.5L was faster on a race track out of the box than the 300hp 2.5L STi of the same year. Thats before you do sticky tires and stiff suspension.
@gambitsubaru70019 жыл бұрын
xt6wagon I'm not trying to be rude mate. But the whole chassis thing is getting pretty dull for me. I like all subaru's even if the Impreza is my main choice I'd happily own a Forester STI or a Legacy Twin turbo. I've had a few. But in all honesty I don't work for subaru I don't declare I know the full chassis or mechanics of Subaru and the cross between models. I never have nor will I. I just know what he says on the video. As I said before feel free to let Fifth gear know by all means. I am a subaru fan but I like many other cars too, and the legacy in the video I know the owner and the car. So was only posted for entertainment value really.
@elaxel14695 жыл бұрын
Is the supension too stiff in speedbumpers and bad roads?
@mikhail84505 жыл бұрын
I have spec b Legacy it’s not the best for bad roads but it won’t loosen your fillings
@The.JZA.9 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the Legacy 3.0R is built off the imprezza chassis. I have the 3.0R sedan, its fantastic to drive!
@CrazyHighVoltage9 жыл бұрын
the impreza is built of the legacy!
@gambitsubaru70019 жыл бұрын
CrazyHighVoltage You're right the Legacy is the Imprezas big brother. But spec-b uses the same chassis as the impreza. I think that's what he mean :)
@MrVittoriomischi9 жыл бұрын
Both wrong. It's the Impreza that has a "reduced" version of the Legacy's chassis. Subarus started winning WRC titles with a Legacy.
@gambitsubaru70019 жыл бұрын
Yes thats what I mean by the legacy is the imprezas big brother. But this legacy is using the new wrx chassis.
@samyoung17799 жыл бұрын
Gambit Subaru Nope. BP5 uses a redesigned BH5 chassis.
@LOFTEY5246 ай бұрын
so ive just realized that i now own that Subaru legacy that is my car someone has abused it a bit since this was filmed but exact same spec colour and number plate
@K03sport3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if I watch this, Subaru will see it too...learn something, then decide to bring it back and improve on it. There is nothing wrong with a Legacy Wagon STi Type RA/S210 etc. I would go back to 2005 and buy either the Legacy GT Spec B or the GT wagon (5M/6M).
@setoman12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not happening. We may get a Levorg on the Global Platform, one day.
@eurosonly3 жыл бұрын
When an audi rs6 avant becomes a cheapskate alternative to a ford transit van.
@jacobdzik62383 жыл бұрын
Facts
@richsan49232 жыл бұрын
I think I've got the last cheap fast-ish estate. It's a 2006 Laguna Sports Tourer. 2.0L petrol turbo manual. 205bhp. The mental used car market probably hasn't increased its value due to badge snobbery. Less than 90K on the clock and fully loaded.
@randomautonomousdronepilot3384 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like trash
@randomautonomousdronepilot3384 Жыл бұрын
Also that 9 second 0-100 time is trash. It looks so ugly lmfaoo. That’s why no one wants and the price hasn’t gone up
@djrphotography3 жыл бұрын
I thought the RS6 was an auto box only?
@simonfarrell43723 жыл бұрын
It is. Tiff is talking tosh
@romerosneck Жыл бұрын
Feisty performance and a cavanous rear, sounds like my ex
@peteglanton9259 Жыл бұрын
Good look getting an 850r like that for £1500 nowadays! ☺️
@BNHC04 жыл бұрын
neat
@JJsAutomotive3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Tiff. Let me know when you find that 10 000£ factory manual C5 RS6. I'll pay 12 000£ for it.
@rokbrglez31343 жыл бұрын
it was 10k just because it was autotragic
@Altanabstick8 жыл бұрын
They've never made a b6 RS6 manual. Get your facts straight guys.
@TheSamialb7 жыл бұрын
Ruben van der Vliet haha, I paused the video just after he said that and came straight ti the comments
@p1fly5 жыл бұрын
B6 is an a4
@juusovaisanen57695 жыл бұрын
its c5 not b6...
@DiscoFang3 жыл бұрын
Get your facts straight? Haha... But seriously, NONE of the RS6 models were ever available as manuals.
@jacobdzik62383 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoFang easy conv is to put in 6spd man from c5 2.7tt
@BionicSammich3 жыл бұрын
There never was a Manual C5 RS6. Not sure what he's on about.
@doncorleon93 жыл бұрын
1,500 for an 850r. I cry from my sh*thole country :(
@martin16493 жыл бұрын
They've gone up in price.
@pawefiett24684 жыл бұрын
1:40 That 850R is LPG?
@Wisniovy3 жыл бұрын
Yup, they love IT!
@georgipopov89896 жыл бұрын
So if i want to have a fraction of the Transit performance I should buy a used RS6 ... fuck logic :D
@jacobdzik62383 жыл бұрын
👌🏻🔥🔥🔥
@ubernoob1037 жыл бұрын
A manual C5 RS6 hey? And the Legacy shares the same chassis as the Impreza? 5th gear really dont do well on facts do they.
@ubernoob1036 жыл бұрын
TheOriginalBRad the Impreza never 'shares' the platform with the legacy - usually, imprezas use a modified version of a past legacy, so at any one point an impreza will not have the same chassis as the (at the time) current legacy.
@luigisena77502 жыл бұрын
How dare they compare the legacy to these cars
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
subaru much better
@andrewgibson79553 жыл бұрын
Try finding a 850 r for 1500 quid now
@garysnell473 жыл бұрын
True ... even a well presented one is over 8k now .
@daniswift4157 жыл бұрын
Volvo r £1500 were?
@AlfonsSwe6 жыл бұрын
DANI swift sweden...
@daniswift4156 жыл бұрын
+Alfons Samuelson get them bought and sell abroad there a fortune here
@Michael-45 жыл бұрын
This programme was aired many years ago. Wished I'd got an RS6 then, look at the prices now!
@josiahthibodeaux4 жыл бұрын
In junkyards around the world.
@todor922 жыл бұрын
RS6 is anything but cheap, lmao .. every single part of the RS6 costs A LOT. From these 3 ..the Subaru is the best choice for sure.
@ianmaskell25843 жыл бұрын
Good luck replacing those camchain tensioners in the RS6. Because you will be. Engine out? Yup. Megabucks? Yup.
@butterfliesandtape8 ай бұрын
Yup, just like super reliable H6 HG failures ... Engine out and bye bye holidays 😢
@MrTaff224 жыл бұрын
hahaa, maybe in England. Try finding an RS6 here in Norway for the same price=DD
@andersbjrnsen72033 жыл бұрын
Or try fining a spec B Legacy at all..
@MrTaff223 жыл бұрын
@@andersbjrnsen7203 that car is so rare youd have better luck finding diamonds in your backyard while cutting the grass=D
@thesis43493 жыл бұрын
1500 for a 850R!!!!!
@MarkVinewood3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. If you're testing a RS6 with a manual, you are not testing a RS6..
@jacobdzik62383 жыл бұрын
Or u testing the tuner spec...
@19ZOLTAN184 жыл бұрын
The legacy actually has one other thing that goes wrong with them. It’s probably the most expensive part.. Head gaskets. Once you cook a h6 engine it can lead to head leaks. The second most expensive is the bilstein suspension. They’re a monotube inverted design which they’re great fun to drive on, they typically leak in the rear. A way to check is to look underneath for oil around the bottom hats and go over speed humps to see if it’s too bouncy or knocking.
@railfanatic14164 жыл бұрын
I thought the H6 was much less prone to head gasket failure than the EJs. The head gasket on my EJ251 from 2000 is starting to bite the dust
@Y10Q4 жыл бұрын
H6 head gaskets don't go until you are well into 200k mile range just like the old EJ22 would do. Turbo EJ25 is the same; But naturally aspirated EJ25 head gaskets blow every 100k miles. Which granted is bad but it isn't horrible. It takes 5-10 years to drive 100k miles and that is probably going to be the only repair with these cars as they are otherwise very reliable.
@HOTPLATEGAMING3 жыл бұрын
Very rare for a H6 to have the headgasket to start leaking. Mainly the front timing cover and cam cases will leak
@RandomAussie892 жыл бұрын
My H6 head gaskets started leaking at 180kms. Also had to replace struts amongst other things.
@Mothmax3 жыл бұрын
Take the Volvo over the other two hands down. It’s a tank that handles. The other two are flimsy wannabes that cost too much to maintain.
@lukestocks43703 жыл бұрын
Audi yes Volvo yes Urabus no
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
why not?
@lukestocks4370 Жыл бұрын
I've had all 3 as company cars All 3 same models and specifications.. almost identical. The Subaru was the only one that gave a problem. I worked for a motor dealer who sold all 3 brands in Australia. New south Wales. I was a service manager for 12 years. The volvo was front wheel drive madness and just cool. The Audi was next level fast at the time. The Subaru was just a Subaru. I only took it because I couldn't get a WRX. none in stock at the time
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
@@lukestocks4370 maybe problems with maintance. Atleast cars here in east eu is very nicely mantained. actually the audis here are in worse condition than subarus
@lukestocks4370 Жыл бұрын
@@HardLordd could be true. But they are all shit compared to the Australian Ford Falcon anyway witch will do 1m or so kilometres. I have 7 of those
@HardLordd Жыл бұрын
@@lukestocks4370 not better in everyway. Subaru has great offroading capabilities, whereas Falcon hasn't.