Fifth Gear: Web TV - Mazda3 MPS

[@MrRex111]

A few things: 1) it's a 2.3l 2) it's 263hp

[@raphimenzi]

?

[@strictlygaining3105]

the lady said 2.5l and has 256hp dylan was correcting that statement

[@raphimenzi]

i understand

[@gbajien]

Mine has had a remap and makes 283whp 446nm at only 1.2 bar boost, and at 190k km on the odometer 😎😎

[@ryanmeissenheimer9307]

Gregory Bajien, what has reliability been like on your car? Would you recommend for someone on a student budget?

[@martinkent6425]

Hard to see why people wouldn't choose this over the GTI? How about cost and reliability? Wouldn't touch a VW unless it was inside of warranty. Mazda is more or less bullet proof.. and very cheap when things do go wrong. Torque steer, so what? How about rolling performance? This thing is magnificent in gear. Much more fun than a Golf. The GTI is for women or guys who think they're hip and trendy. MPS is for people who want something a little edgy and different. Nice car, great bang for $.

[@grysx4160]

Martin Kent I have a gen 1 speed 3 and people complain about torque steer but in my opinion all you have to to is hold the wheel. Is that so difficult for people haha

[@andrewhaines8603]

Hashtag Tsunami I had a Clio 172 and l did the same as you, just hold the steering wheel. Damn fun car to drive. I'm driving a 2004 Mazda 6 at the moment and would like to get a series one 3 MPS as it doesn't shout like this model and I kind of prefer that. Must be my age!

[@dallasmellsop5488]

Damn facts man

[@carbq5280]

@@grysx4160 yeah I used to have a 89 Mirage with a Evo motor swapped into it, these people don't know what torque steer is.

[@supposedly6991]

LMAO. U r a fucking clueless idiot. My golf 5 1.9 tdi has a whooping 447k kilometers on the clock and it's still running perfectly. It always has, with regular basic maintenance it can run forever. VW reliability is remarkable, truly amazing.

[@TheDarryl50]

idk why everyone hates the front end of this car. I actually find it very nice to look at. It makes that car look a lot more sporty than the original 3

[@lawrencemarychurch9575]

"55 grams more Co2 than the golf" How things change...

[@staggabob]

+Lawrence Marychurch Co2. The VW defeat device lowered NOx emissions.

[@brrebrresen1367]

and they also faked CO2 and mpg values by finetuning em just for the EU cycle meaning in real world use the Mazda was close to the mpg and CO2 but the GTI and the Ford RS used far more fuel that on paper

[@gbajien]

Lawrence Marychurch this was pre VW diesel-gate scandal discovery hahaha

[@Jandejongjong]

Lawrence Marychurch Dont forget CO2 make’s trees grow!! Care for nature! More CO2 is good!!

[@Jandejongjong]

Børre Børresen As always

[@xeniosm]

i test it and this car gived me one of the best driving experiences at it's class, cool handling and controling

[@wakefielddevin]

I don't know what she's talking about, I love torque steer! reminds me that I'm not driving just a regular Mazda 3!

[@clutchfreak13]

Did she said Golf is cleaner? LOL, say that again now :D

[@FireballGER]

word XD ...

[@Jandejongjong]

Aatrox She ment it was washed better with clean

[@barren76]

She got paid to say that

[@kavehrad1000]

3:50 because it will still cost the same to run in 10 year and parts will be cheap, also wont break down, and the electronics will work long after the rest of the car doesn't, unlike the golf

[@brrebrresen1367]

"most of the Mazda's chassis DNA comes from the Ford Focus" strange... since the platform that the Focus is built on is just was used by Mazda several years before Ford even used it...

[@Jandejongjong]

Børre Børresen Couse ford and Mazda do a lot of back to back They design engines together and most Mazda diesel is just ford engine. Wich is Pretty good sometimes;) Ford got some good diesels and fast easy to tune

[@elusivellama]

Interesting... MPS badge on the grille and a MZR 2.3 DISI TURBO badge just inside the hood scoop, neat little details that add a bit more flair to the car. Torque steer, unruly, raw and untamed... is exactly why I love my 2010 MS3. An upgraded rear motor mount (and maybe passenger motor mount) is mandatory - reduces torque steer, reduces shift jerkiness, etc.

[@brzutt]

I would have this over the gti anyday

[@bubbazenetti5834]

Ha ha ha Mazda Mps shit box. The interior is made of kinder egg shells. Mk5 ed30 dsg any day.

[@aaroncheok4316]

Bubba Zenetti DSG?? Can you drive?

[@dallasmellsop5488]

@@bubbazenetti5834 just buy a standard golf man, if you don't care about driving, clearly you don't, with dsg and not choosing the raw speed 3

[@sarahnabee4477]

@@bubbazenetti5834 speak for your self

[@armesisp3201]

I still have mine since 2011, Everythings still clean and working well. Not the easiest car to live with, but still the best ive ever owned.

[@Monkiimagic]

And a VW Golf GTI would have broken down several times by now, you can't question Japanese reliability :)

[@357kurt]

I miss 4wd , 323 heritage from the gtx gtr

[@mokbulhussain1476]

Not the easiest to work with? I want to get this car, do you mind expanding on the problems you've come across?

[@armesisp3201]

@@mokbulhussain1476 The close ratio gearbox is excellent for acceleration and when driving very fast on a curvy road, but for everyday driving, you'll be changing gears ALOT compared to a normal car. The low profile tyres and 18 inch rims can be uncomfortable, so I've swapped them for normal 17 inch non performance tyres. Its much more comfortable now but it has less grip, so the wheels spin alot and I absolutely love it. The car is still great and looks/feels like new. The only things I have replaced so far are 1 headlamp, and I've just ordered a new suspension. One of the rear dust covers came off due to old age so I decided to replace them all in one go. They still work fine I can drive above 200kph and it all feels good.

[@northof-62]

And now we know VW cheated on their emmision figures..

[@zeemonkeyman1]

3:08 - 3:13 Runs over a cat.

[@jarraandyftm]

zeemonkeyman1 hopefully, hate cats.

[@OGtrushalpatel]

@ it's not that deep lol its just a cat

[@DarkAngel1979fuck]

Shame she didn't reverse over it.

[@cihanseven6227]

@@jarraandyftm fuck off you desperate monster!

[@alteclansing3333]

If you do some research the engine actually makes euro stage 5 emissions (some websites say 4) because of the unique design of the engine and catalytic converters by mazda, also most owners say mileage is good for a sports car. But not me, everytime i get into this car by feet turn into lead blocks

[@jeremym9739]

What do you guys think! I'm from Australia and I'm still studying. I'm currently in year12 doing my studies and working 4 shifts each 3hrs a week at Kmart. So far I've got over $7000 saved in my bank and I'm keen on one of these for my first car. All the money is my hard earned cash from working for 2yr at Kmart and I'm going to make sure I have 10k by the end of the year. My parents will pay the rest but I will be working full time next year to save money to pay the rest of the car off for my parents and enough for university fees!

[@jeremym9739]

Don Duke I'm in WA and I haven't heard that they are illegal for P players. Might need to do some researching, but yeh I know they kick ass, defiantly not a STI though

[@kc2zxl]

Good review. I recently purchased a 2012 Speed3 with option called "Tech Package" here in the U.S. -- same color as this review. I have drive the MKV GTI with DSG 2 years ago and I actually prefer the Speed3 over it as the reviewer said, it makes you feel alive. Speed3 has a lot more sporty feel unlike GTI when pushed. GTI seems more cramped interior wise, Speed3 feels more spacious and has better seating and cargo space. The six speed, close ratio, short throw shifter is like a jewel!

[@SuperQuantumMechanic]

I finally got a chance to test drive a Speed 3 and the supposed big bad "Torque Steer" was not nearly as bad they make it out to be.For roughly $23k it's actually a damn slick little hatchback.

[@stinkbra]

just out of curiosity, at 1:30 is she doing the usual thing where people confuse torque steer with understeer? torque steer is a result of HAVING grip and that grip pulling you to one side while trying to go in a straight line; understeer can be caused by getting on the throttle while cornering and LOSING front end grip as a result (which seems to me to be what shes describing... i could be wrong) Also she talked about turbo lag and then later mentioned that above 2500rpm power is instant (so no turbo lag). does she think turbo lag is being below the working range of the turbo (under 2500rpm) and waiting for the engine to get up to 2500rpm? turbo lag is the split second delay of power when you initially put your foot down while the engine is ALREADY IN the working range of the turbo. Also the "2 and a half L" engine is a 2.3 i could be wrong with what i said but IF im right then thats half of the review being bullshit, useless material. It makes me question a lot of the info i listened to in other videos that, unlike this, were about cars i dont actually own and in turn didnt notice the faults. ........ rant over LOL

[@numbereightyseven]

brad ley you're right except for the turbo lag.

[@jmccann6735]

numbereightyseven He's actually right about turbo lag. Lag is the delay to boost if you floor it whilst in boost range. Boost threshold is what ricers call "lag". Threshold is the rpm range needed in order to actually spool up the compressor. You obviously can't floor a turbo car at idle and expect full boost

[@stepcotr]

I love my Mazdaspeed 3! This car was designed for skilled drivers just like the ZR1. Ever see one of these shows, like top gear, rate a ZR1? They claim it is rough, unrefined and completely out of control. Yet it puts down some of the best track times on the planet. The Mazdaspeed 3 is the same. For those of you looking for an easy car that requires no skill go buy yourself a GTI, but don't expect to see a Mazaspeed 3 in your rear view mirror.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

I love the aggressive looks of this Mazdaspeed. Hopefully a new one will come out soon with similar aggressive looks.

[@leeleaguegaming6033]

You are talking crap i have a 2gen mps it has no talksteer and the power comes in at 3500 and theres nothing left a 6500

[@jacobthellamer]

I was following one of these a few months back in my little golf GT. It was hard to keep up with in the straights but holy shit was it slow in the corners - to the point of irritation. Looked like it was always on the verge of understeer, maybe bad tires?

[@A92CB7]

For some reason this video DOES NOT describe my 2012 Mazdaspeed 3 which is the same car but the steering wheel is on the opposite side, it's MUCH better than how she described it

[@stpe2005]

@PARCE93 Torque steer is when you put your foot to the floor and the steering is going left to right.

[@Warzoneplayer2024]

beautiful car

[@rodneydurden1267]

Exuse me

[@MrPicky400]

Great review Vicky how ever is ford focus st that's faster than mps3 ford focus rs is slower

[@VAspeed3]

It's the same engine from the previous generation -- 2.3L. The 2.5's are normally aspirated, only, and are not available in the Speed3/MPS.

[@Jayc2400]

I wished they had this white color on the 2011 Speed3, the only options that they gave me was lipstick red, panzy blue, boring gray and overused black! So I went with the black one. One question is there a breaking point on the turbo when buying new?

[@OscarLodge]

@SUPERPIDGEON /Looks good.. I'm off to a Dealership tomorrow to look at a red Demo' 985 miles on the clock. This new model seems in demand so....I'll probably buy it....Any tips ??. .DJ.

[@honesttroll3463]

Why mention the GTI? It’s nowhere near as quick as these and far less reliable, especially with electrics and intercooler which is very typical of German cars.

[@VAspeed3]

@ChamaliVR6 -- Is the Golf R even sold in the US? The R32 was a sales bust here because it was $10,000 more than the MazdaSpeed3 (and its worthy competitors), but it was slower because it was ridiculously heavy for such a small car. I hope the new R is much lighter, or it wont be able to keep up with the MPS/Speed3 from a rolling start either.

[@pliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

except quality wich isnt important right ? or ride confort ? or looks ? or handling ? ....

[@kalargyi]

what happened to the Flip-up GPS? Mazda has Gru's Shrink ray?

[@Alladin-n5j]

The Mazda 6 MPS was far superior since it was AWD aa opposed to FWD Mazda 3 MPS

[@richad3091]

bouncy ride? i was recently in the previous version on this car and was very surprised at the comfort! and as for the torque steer? what torque steer? i couldnt believe the handling just ate up every corner with ease

[@sockerdood11]

Forgive me for asking this possibly dumb question, but is the MPS the rest of the world's Mazdaspeed?

[@derickchow777]

@PARCE93 its where the torque of the engine makes the steering wheel move to the side. if the car is power full enough it can be quite a handle full keeping it in a straight line while accelerating hard.

[@MS3Willy]

As a mps owner, go through a corner above 4k, torque steers nuts

[@RaulRodriguez-dl8hd]

i still don't understand what's so good about the gti, every time i seat in one i want to gtfo.

[@fatyowls]

Shame they didn't do a 4 wheel drive version, the tuning options would've been interesting..

[@Patrick-857]

I had one. I liked it, blew the turbo, was covered under warranty, I eventually got bored with it though, because the power limiting in the 1st 3 gears really started to annoy me. Forth gear before you get full power is ridiculous for a road car, try and actually use that power when you can only get it in forth and say goodbye to your license. It was a very fun car but I ended up trading it in for a Subaru WRX STi. I do miss how silly that MPS was though. One of the most fun cars I ever owned.

[@armesisp3201]

I chip tuned it very soon after to remove the power suppression. I still have mine since 2011, i put smaller 17 inch lightweight rims on it so now it spins its tires all the time lol. Everythings still working like new, best car ive ever had!

[@nogvdub88]

my 07 MPS completely stock pulls hard from 2nd gear. The trick is having the wheel dead straight. The moment you have slight turn on the wheel, it will limit boost quite abit.

[@darylgoh6198]

$700 Access Port and the problem is solved.

[@themantouf]

what should i get speed 3 or 6 fwd vs awd 3 as a better look but yea fwd ...

[@VAspeed3]

The power is not wasted unless you only drive around in parking lots. On a good smooth surface, you can use it all from 3rd gear up.

[@DaveDude571]

Yes, but she said BRAKE horsepower, which is not that same as at the wheels. When one is talking about brake horsepower, they refer to the crank, which would be 263. The term brake originated from the device that was used to measure the horsepower at the crank, which would be a brake.

[@fan4now]

i still love the old one and dont think they need to change it but i guess it would have to grow on me if i buy one

[@hundvonkrieg]

@popomomo12 negative ghost rider, the Mazda6 MPS also had 256 HP. the US spec MS3 and 6 have 273.

[@HFLanciaStratos]

You can complain about the interior, the ride, etc, but there's no escaping the fact it's both cheaper and faster than a Golf!!!! It's a handsome machine too!

[@genocyde83]

What season is this from

[@nahenuff8174]

What year is this model?

[@genocyde83]

Why did they discontinue the speed6. great car and it would have been awesome to see it again with the redesign and even more power.

[@predsjednikvlade]

two and a half liter 4 cylinder engine?

[@MilosKsonzek]

@seauryakumar because the WRX is a 4x4 like the evo, and HotHatches are FWD ...

[@Shane-Singleton]

I've got the US version of this car. The Mazdaspeed 3. And I have to agree with pretty much everything said here. although I don't mind the somewhat bland interior the torque steer always wants to pull the wheel out of your hand on hard acceleration. You have to pay attention to it or things could go wrong, fast. That being said I've found mine to be great fun to drive. Although the Sat. Nav. screen could be a little closer and bigger, as it was in the previous generation.

[@ImOnly1Person]

After watching so many reviews on the Mazdaspeed3 and the Golf GTI, I can't help but think that they are so close in comparison, that I would be heart torn to choose. They are both such good cars, in very different ways.

[@hundvonkrieg]

the Euro mazdaspeeds only have 256? My 2007 Mazdaspeed6 has 273

[@mituc]

@ronkerfred , not on stock tune and not when fuelling it with the right kind of gas. No.

[@PARCE93]

@SRQshark what is torque steer?

[@alexanderdubois7931]

You've Got What It Takes! living stocking !!!

[@jackies83]

@265justy i own a golf mkv GT, so what does that make me?

[@VAspeed3]

And the GTI does not get any 39MPG!! It's the same as the Speed3 according to anyautomotive publications I've seen. Not to rag on the GTI, however. I've driven one and found it very nice -- loved the DSG transmission.

[@ChuyGl89]

@tacticalHID fifth gear's been around for about the same time as new Top Gear started in early 00's. While TG focuses more on entertaining, FG gets straight to technical specifications. Vicki has raced against Jeremy countless times

[@Paul63G]

@nazhif1 why is better?

[@jose0rane]

The Speed 3/ 3 MPS/ Axela MPS is the ultimate automobile. Affordable, fun, fast, safe, reliable - and with personality in truck-fulls. Come-on, how many performance cars have a cheeky grin like that?

[@EnglishSaint1]

I’ve had a (left) drifting problem with my Mazda 3 MPS from new. I constantly need to correct it. Its been to 2 Mazda dealers on 4 separate occasions. Even in the right lane where the camber of the road should take you to the right, mine goes left. There is no sign of physical damage nor uneven tyre wear, its had a 4 wheel alignment several times but still no improvement . The Mazda garage has said its ‘just what this spec of car does‘. Does anyone else experience this with their MPS?

[@BLACKSTEEL26]

is this the european version of the american mazdaspeed3?

[@xraycortina]

@rondar2 Petrol is also expensive in Turkey isn't it?

[@michaelgross9064]

Things like torque steer, firm suspension, and that "raw" feel are all things I personally enjoy in a car. Cars that are calm, refined, etc are just a bore to drive.

[@brazzr]

did they even bother to open the bonnet, it says 2.3 on the engine cover

[@sealion16]

Because it gives them something negative to talk about. A good reviewer has to state both good and bad aspects about the product. You're right, it's not really an issue. If you punch the gas and the car pulls left, you simply pull right to compensate.

[@sakal88]

Is Mazda using French diesels ??

[@somebodyjones2]

wait... did she say torque steer is not a particularly nice sensation? DUDE!!! i LOVE the torque steer in my MS3... it's inSANE - makes me feel like i'm really driving something beastly! she's nuts, man. it's a BLAST to drive.

[@drmanos1]

@RicardoSS85 really?why so expensive?they should cost around 30000

[@SalVatioN2011]

2 and a half liter? 1:04 mmmmm i thought it said 2.3 DISI TURBO 0:18 ...or is ti just UK specs....

[@reraskol]

I love torque steer! Think of it as the car fighting back. Torque steer shows the car's raw power and rude acceleration. For the haters out there, I have the rwd Mx5 for the track and a Mazda3 MPS for my daily driver.

[@Makoholic11]

the torque steer is hardly an issue. I dont understand why people complain about it.

[@Edward911234]

waight 2.5l or 2.3l

[@paintmymarker]

@RooR2027 That is the Naturally Aspirated Mazda3/Axela. Mazda kept the 2.3L displacement in their turbocharged speed3/MSP line of cars. If Mazda made a 2.5L turbocharged setup, they would be criticized for manipulating and following Subaru's standards in sport compact cars/hot hatches.

[@yanzodadon]

it looks pretty damn good if you ask me, even with it's huge smile

[@kicksoffs]

My opinion the mazda 3 has a nicer looking interior than the vw golf

[@sultanabran1]

torque steer always goes the same way. it's because of un-equal driveshaft lengths. mounting a longitudinal engine will get rid of torque steer. like in a renault fuego. better still, put a diff in the back and make it rear wheel drive.

[@ThePetrolhead94]

i know people say vw eletronics are bad but my dad has had a passat for two years and not one thing has gone wrong

[@Gloomfrost]

@MyRandomLife247 Not exactly... it's not an 'old' 'Ford' engine, it's been changed and improved a lot, and is now Mazda's own. Also, inb4 'Ford owns Mazda': Ford sold off their share in the 90's, they have less than 5% of stake today.

[@Rarae192]

What I miss about the new Mazda3s (i.e. from 2010) is how the instrument cluster hood doesn't have the 3 cylinders anymore -- I thought that looked awesome and unique. Now they just have two cylinders that stick out, with some junk squashed between them.

[@XR8xSHOCKWAVE]

I'm looking forward to the comparison review between the MPS 3, Megane RS250 and the new Focus ST when they're available. I like being spoiled for choice : )

[@Edward911234]

@BoricuaBoxing its a 2.3 bro The mazda 3's are 2.5 not speed 3's

[@Wonderbread1023]

@Gilliatt83 I was curious of that very same thing. Apparently there are vast differences between bellhousing and output shafts, vast enough for the Mazda drag racing team to say its ridiculously expensive. The original mazdaspeed3's tranny was special designed to save space and keep a 6th gear, guess its too difficult to modify. Superchargers are available for the MX-5 atleast.

[@VAspeed3]

@KittyKranker Did you have an MS3 a couple years ago? Thought I recognized your username. I've still got the one I bought is October 2006. Tracked it (road course) a few times. Still a great sleeper on the street, but the guys at the track all know about these by now.

[@RicardoSS85]

@drmanos1 The tax we pay here, when we buy a new car, is unfortunately one of the biggest in Europe, so all the cars - from a Twingo to an Aventador - are very expensive when compared to other European countries. As for this Mazda in particular, I don't know. The tax is based on engine displacement and CO2 consumption, so that might be part of the reason...

[@djkasdjkasdjdjdj]

on the golf gti you get more maintenance on the dealership than gas mileage or on the road!

[@JDM417]

@jackies83 you got that right i drove a 2010 GTI and the interior is very well made BUT me being a HONDA FAN BOY...lol i love the HONDA interior as well. HONDA & VW are pretty much head to head when it comes to quality. YES i will tak quality over speed and day.

[@mpalm887]

@popovicvl Car or Vicki? Both I suppose.

[@serz1885]

@WiseGuy02 ok tell me than how come skoda octavia 2001 with disel engine 110hp pay 112£ per year and octavia 2010 105hp pays only 30£

[@saxmanbrad]

@801Snowflake nope still 2.3, at least in the US. The 2.5 is the naturally aspirated.

[@81giorikas]

Why did they give it to Vicki for a review...

[@PrivatePAuLa29a]

I'm driving one. and i can say, its not a beginners car ;) As she said you allways have have a firm grip to the wheel when you step on it or else you'll hit the next tree ;) but its a real fun car to drive and i'll stick to my MPS. btw: if you care for the environment, you'll be better off with a prius or a VW Lupo 3l

[@K20TypeR]

Lots of misinformation in this video: it's not 2.5 litre but 2.3, 0-62 is 6.2 seconds not 0-60, it comes on boost at 2500rpm but power does die out after about 5500rpm. If you don't want torque steer then don't get FWD. A little bit of torque steer is fine, gives a raw feeling of power. Hot hatch buyers today want hot hatches to drive like BMWs!

[@invincible751]

@mykatamari she says "torque steer" not "torque stick" but i can see how you would hear that. her accent is very thick

[@Yanp87]

actually, mazda has made hatchbacks for years before Subaru decided to make its impreza STI a hatchback, so Subary are the ones copying actually

[@ASHWINAHMED]

Why is she comparing this car to the GTI, The GTI is a fwd 2.0 Ltr, 200hp car. I think the Mazda 3 MPS its directely in competition with the Audi S3, They both produce around 250/260hp from a 2.0/2.3Ltr turbocharged engine, both have AWD, both are hatchbacks.....