Gimbal UFO incident | Ryan Graves and Lex Fridman

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Lt. Ryan Graves is a former Navy fighter pilot, who has worked on advanced research and development programs for DARPA, Office of Naval Research, and Air Force Research Labs on topics of multi-agent collaborative autonomy, AI-assisted air-to-air combat, and manned-unmanned teaming technologies. Ryan and people in his squadron detected and engaged with UFOs on multiple occasions, and he has been one of the few people willing to speak publicly about these experiences.
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[@denniscleary7580]

I’m just happy to be alive for this information to be so widely and seriously discussed

[@zachhart4067]

Same here, shit is getting real.

[@ARPorganics]

I'm really glad that pilot is going on podcast to show the world this kind of information must be talked about more often then usual. Also that pilot must be protected at all cost.

[@KazKazui]

fell for the psyop

[@knotNyourHead]

It's declassified. Not like he's telling secrets.

[@jediknight73]

@@knotNyourHead dude people who said that they saw a UFO you would get your pilot license and people for years make fun of you

[@jediknight73]

@@KazKazui go to Mick West KZbin you will fit in for sure

[@ant7018]

@@jediknight73 Not when there's multiple witnesses and those witnesses were literally told to check "it" out.

[@solarflair3613]

so happy to listen to this guy, someone with real knowledge about this and he seems very open about it too

[@chriskiesling9387]

Loved this. Fascinating stuff plus a surprising and profound ending.

[@whhmjr]

Watching the abridged sections of talk with Ryan Graves after the unabridged 2+ hrs - excellent, beautiful, and awe inspiring listening to intelligent, skillful, yet humble guys who are making a difference in how we see, appreciate and make sense of phenomenon outside ourselves.

[@nunyabiznez666]

This is new info to me! I haven't heard anyone else speak of "the fleet". Really enjoyed this episode ❤

[@PlayZombieFTW]

So you have never seen the Video? 😅

[@JesusMartinez-mk6fc]

Excellent interview Lex. Ryan Graves is a very intelligent man as demonstrated by his academic achievements as well as a top notch jet fighter. He's a very good speaker with a clear mindset. He has clearly invested much time pondering over and analyzing the UAP phenomenon.

[@Mondo_0ne]

Absolutely loved this episode!!

[@flakdampler11]

Thanks Lex for this new info!

[@mattcole3067]

In regards to “our busy schedules” well said, Lex!

[@samuela9058]

Great video my friend very educational

[@mjsup1]

Like this guy, seems to be objective intelligent. Pretty refreshing 😊

[@jatticusfinch9015]

This conversation is refreshing. I know it’s a cliche but I want to believe. There’s just too many people in the community that are too ready to say stuff like, ‘you’re an idiot for not believing,’ or ‘use your brain’, or, ‘the evidence is right in front of you.’ Too ready to say I’m smart and you’re dumb. I’m right and you’re wrong. No one knows the truth, but I think honest, calm, informative conversations like this will edge us all closer to whatever the truth is. Thanks Lex!

[@Testing_123_]

5:14 It's almost like the gimbals movements and the object the FLIR is displaying movements are out of phase.

[@richardjohnson9534]

Great insight Alexei. Our lives are so busy we don’t really even know ourselves. We do things all the time that make no sense. But because we are so busy. We never even see it coming. When the consequences of what we have been doing. Accumulate and then deliver us some rather unexpected news. It’s only when we take the time to review how we got to where we are. Do we take to heart why things worked out the way they did.

[@bigdofba]

I think Bob Lazar is full of it but this thing moves exactly like he explained… You can almost see the field around the craft he explained as well

[@MrScooter1287]

Then why would you think that Bob Lazar is full of it? I ask with sincerity and curiousity.

[@bigdofba]

@@MrScooter1287 He was a C & D student in high school and claimed he went to MIT. MIT would never accept him based on those grades, has no record of him, and Lazar himself can’t even name one professor. He has been caught lying. Someone asked him for a professor’s name at MIT and he gave them the name of someone at Pierce Junior College. He also has a shady past and is a convicted felon. In that Netflix documentary they edited footage to make it look like the FBI raid was because of element 115. People have shown the dates on the cell phone at the beginning of the doc and the timeline doesn’t add up. That means they intentionally made that part up. So what else did they deceive people with? I believe he worked at Los Alamos and he may even have worked at Area 51 in some capacity. That doesn’t mean he worked on UFOs. Some guy on Rogan said he had a contact that said Lazar was just the guy that scanned badges. Who knows. Bits and pieces of his story probably are true but with most conspiracy theories you’re going to have to make several leaps of faith that involve the government covering stuff up and erasing records. I just can’t quiet get there. PS. I would love for him to be proven right but the dude says he isn’t ranting any money from his story…then you goto his website and he is selling merch and autographs.

[@tyrrian2520]

Not according to this pilot . Lol.

[@LuigiKjo]

@@bigdofba dude… you think a super intelligent guy like Bob Lazar… that built a car with a jet engine… works as a badge scanner? xD The lacks of records is simply the cia or whatever trying to hide his tracks so he comes across as a liar. He is not getting rich from selling autographs. Sometimes maybe his business needs a small extra push. All the things he talked about in 1989 has come to fruition. Gravitational waves, element 115, tilting UFOs etc etc. He is as real as it gets. Yes he has a shady past. But AREA 51 needed ”crazy” scientists to do a crazy job. Outside of the box thinkers. It all makes sense. UFOs are real, they are here everyday. Get a grip and do a little research before you discredit, and dont forget: Use your brain

[@bigdofba]

@@LuigiKjo I’m not saying I believe he worked as a badge scanner. That’s just what someone else reported. It’s just as factual as some Lazars claims. You think someone that was a C student in high school gets into MIT? And you’re telling me to use my brain? I want to believe him but I’m trying to look at things objectively. I believe the pilots and this radar data way more than a former C student turned convicted felon. Does that make me crazy?

[@chartsfocusone]

Is it not odd to anyone that Graves' description on the Gimbal video sorta parallels Bob Lazar's description of the craft he supposedly saw a few decades ago?

[@ericchase5045]

I don’t fully understand the pilots comments and reasoning. If there were a number of objects in the vicinity of a military exercise, it seems it would be a priority to determine whether they were friend, foe, or otherwise a hazard or potential hazard. These people just essentially ignored them and went about their day. WTF?

[@ONE_FLYMINGO]

Lol “that part” makes zero sense at all. Yeah, just weird stuff supposedly in the sky. No worries, carry on!!..righhhht 🗑🗑🗑 each time they (the navy) claim to see this type of nonsense they never shoot at it etc. absolutely never ever. All they have is little videos and that’s all folks no diff than the other hundreds of thousands of videos, pics etc. since however long we can remember. So it will always be 🗑 to me.

[@guyfawkes8384]

I haven't heard of anyone else mention this, but I have found a very interesting correlation in Bob Lazar's description of the alien craft and that of Travis Walton's; who was famously abducted in front of his co-workers out in the woods in 1975. I am currently reading Walton's book on his experience titled 'Fire in the Sky' and there is a sketched diagram of the alien craft Walton says he was abducted on to. The description both give are exactly the same right down to the size of the craft and the fact there were no hard edges or wires of any kind. I thought that was very interesting and gives credit to both stories.

[@bluejay711]

I was just watching The Joe Rogan Experience interview with Bob Lazar and they were speaking about the gimbal video footage 🙌🏻

[@cabforwardooo9983]

The Walton case provides some interesting insight. The environment inside the craft was very warm and humid, maybe with low oxygen levels, because Travis had trouble breathing. He initially saw alien beings, but they handed him off to people that appeared to be human. Humans working with aliens? Or were the humans bred to serve the aliens? He was taken off the craft into a hanger that held other craft. It was either a base somewhere on earth or he was in a mother ship. Some interesting points to think about...

[@MichaelM-ik7nz]

I would love to see the same view of a standard fighter jet as a comparison. Does it always look like a blob?

[@elijahlafayette7666]

how is it that the object remained perfectly centered in the image being recorded by another aircraft at high speed?

[@paulwary]

Seems unlikely the military would ignore what appeared to be a craft invading their airspace during manoeuvres. Unless someone knew they were also testing a device to fool the radar.

[@LuigiKjo]

These objects are not uncommon. They know they are there.. and they know they can do nothing about it

[@grimblegromblethegnome]

That's certainly the most likely explanation. If I were to bet money on it that's prob what I'd say. But there's just enough anomalous detail such that I'm not totally sure. My heart says aliens. Brain says secret US tech.

[@LuigiKjo]

@@grimblegromblethegnome it’s not US tech. They have been here for thousands of years. Some of them are US tech now, back engineered. But most of them not. The book, ”the book of enoch” talks about ”The watchers”, and that book is more than 2000 years old. And ancient writings like hieroglyphs show ETs. They are here. End of story

[@omrieforni]

Please interview Alex Karp! Dying to hear you guys talk

[@ianmangham4570]

Mind Blown 🤯

[@user-eo7oh8px9e]

There is a video on here and people say it’s a lens flare?? I’m confused by them multiple radar??

[@ravener96]

Ironic that its called gimball when the turning of the object matches exactly what you would expect from the FLIR pod rotating the camera on a gimball to track the target.

[@haydukethor]

that doesn’t seem to make sense

[@ravener96]

@@haydukethor why? heres an image theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ATFLIR.jpg the head rotates around its axis

[@BadEnergyJohn]

I saw a very convincing explanation of this video that I don’t think gets talked about enough when people discuss this. It’s practically obvious what this is and people refuse to accept it. Exactly what you said, the rotating head of the camera pod is what is “changing diredtion”.

[@rothko1234]

yet more interesting/different takes on this famous video- great

[@oglaucio]

Just the fact that, seeing those on a radar, the base having knowledge that there are foreign objects around USs jet fighters and NOT TELLING pilots to engage and intercept those objects will tell you how much we don't know about what is known by the military. Mind boggling!

[@nikokapanen82]

Since they have no idea what those objects are, how could they engage and intercept? Maybe these objects are unknown natural phenomena and maybe if you try to destroy one of them it will start a chain reaction that will lead to some horrible outcome. Unknown is unknown and as of now, no harm has been coming from these unknown objects.

[@drechillin2154]

The way that thing moves is probably to hard to take down honestly

[@szczurrat2402]

I think, maybe, I might have accidentally seen an unedited version of this thing on the internets. The video I saw, the object had a haze around it, a misty, whispy haze. Could be a fake, could be anything, who knows.

[@brulsmurf]

You also see that in this video btw. Keep in mind the videocamera does a lot of processing. The haze probably is just the camera doing some local contrasting so you dont get complete black outs or white outs.

[@josephgranger5261]

Off gazing of materials used in the manufacturing of displays in the cockpit, perhaps.

[@rensc4262]

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” `- ACC

[@SPARKYTX]

The "Gimble" appears to be an energy signature of some type of gyroscopical device.

[@Jack-pz4my]

Glare

[@SPARKYTX]

@@Jack-pz4my so, ir vision systems suffer from glare like standard cameras?

[@CanadaJ]

Why is this OLD Footage still being talked about when you know they have much, much better.

[@CanadaJ]

@@Joe-sg9ll Surely you don't believe that Joe.

[@CanadaJ]

@@Joe-sg9ll Wherever they are hiding it.

[@caseymoore4759]

@@Joe-sg9ll during the uap hearing they had just recently they literallly admitted they had a lot better stuff but weren’t releasing it……. That’s a under oath hearing if you don’t understand what that means. They mentioned a lot of interesting things during the hearing that people just seem to glance over. They also confirmed these things being tracked on multiple independent systems at the same time. That means they are 100% real. Now whether it’s aliens that’s a diff story but being confirmed metallic. Confirmed to do things not even our top drone tech can do etc does point more in a specific direction

[@caseymoore4759]

Pretty sure in the hearing they said they weren’t giving up all info so other governments wouldn’t know how much they know. But there are other reasons as well like for example. Typically a government wouldn’t just admit to something like a potential threat that they can’t defend against. It just causes doubt and panic.

[@CanadaJ]

@@caseymoore4759 This is probably true. The World would stop for a bit if we got too scared.

[@mjolnir_swe]

He doesent mention any speeds or accelerations. Could they just be high grade drones?

[@KelticTim]

Gentlemen, when your losing the battle of the hairline, just go with a buzz cut.

[@igokarts4510]

"Together but not in formation". Kinda like birds. These things are more natural than we think, it's just otherworldly and we don't understand

[@haydukethor]

I don’t know what to think anymore

[@attackscorpion5323]

The craft using an inertial mass reduction device comprises of an outer resonant cavity wall, an inner resonant cavity, and microwave emitters. The outer resonant cavity wall and the inner resonant cavity wall form a resonant cavity. The microwave emitters create high frequency electromagnetic waves throughout the resonant cavity causing the outer resonant cavity wall to vibrate in an accelerated mode and create a local polarized vacuum outside the outer resonant cavity wall.

[@bluejay711]

I was watching The Joe Rogan Experience interview with Bob Lazar and they were speaking about the gimbal video footage 🙌🏻 very interesting stuff!

[@lxgb01]

Why can’t we see the Gimble craft in good resolution? Surely the equipment carried by the F18 is better than that ? We can the shape but no real details ..

[@OTOxKRUGERxOTO]

Maybe that aura is what Salvatore país mentions in his inertia mass reduction craft

[@TwdlD]

Why are the comms only one sided? Where are the comms from the tower?

[@leny7858]

Pretty sure there are a lot of people who are aware of this and know a lot more than they seemingly give away, and they probably use bureaucracy as a diversion or more of a way to keep that knowledge away from the regular people

[@quarterbagatx806]

Looks like he took the hair off the barbershop floor and glued it to his head,

[@BandytaCzasu]

So he saw UFOs, and he didn't give this the attention it deserves? I would be thinking about it all the time.

[@RobChapala]

Sounds like he's describing inspect flight patterns

[@thelastbrobo7826]

There is lots of footage of similar objects taken all around the world. This is the disclosure that the "loonies" talked about 10yrs ago.

[@user-up1us9jf1o]

I like this topic just for the mental workout when thinking about it. One thing I’d love to know is have any pilots said publicly they saw these things with their naked eye or was it all on instruments?

[@dentonholmgren4886]

I believe Fravor and his crewmate saw the tic-tac object with their own eyes as well as their instruments. The other flight crew might have seen it as well though Im not sure

[@dflsam]

Watch / Listen to the Lex - Fravor discussion

[@dietisgreat]

Watch "extraordinary until proven otherwise " by LEMMINO it on KZbin

[@artandchill2480]

ancient astronaut theories suggest YESSSSS, these are visitors from the STARZ trying to make contact.

[@davidh8857]

Look into the Ruwa Zimbabwe Ufo incident. Now that’s what I call a close encounter..

[@lufasumafalu5069]

See Bethune Gander encounter and Canadian destroyer Iroquis encountet

[@kevinwilliams1421]

Isn’t this exactly how Bob lazar said it was years ago regarding propulsion

[@ZxRiGxZ]

I recommend you watch “VFX Artist DEBUNK Pentagon UFO VIDEOS” they explain this exact clip in detail.

[@bethanyschool]

Future technology is out there that we have no idea about. But human body language never lies.........

[@mrmonkeboy]

I assume he's seen a recording of the "gods eye view" ... Can someone get hold of this? This formation?

[@ibeprofinn8890]

Why would you assume there is a recording of the Situational Awareness Page, I find it extremely unlikely.

[@kevkevdj]

The gods eye view is in the awacs. It’s not a video satellite feed, it’s marks on a radar

[@ibeprofinn8890]

@@kevkevdj that's what I thought, could you even screen record it if you wanted?

[@outty77]

​@@ibeprofinn8890 If I was sending out billions of dollars of tech, and highly trained human beings worth even more than that, I'd be inclined to keep track of everything - doubly so if we encounter mf aliens or enemy advanced tech in our airspace. I'd have to hear it from the fucking president to believe that they do not log SA data.

[@drboone357]

@@ibeprofinn8890 lol it's one of the most advanced vehicles on Earth, it doesn't have WIndows dude

[@THEGRENAAAAADE]

Probably just the wind

[@tobydidmagic1629]

Jean Jacket's first appearance

[@davidrandell2224]

No energy, charge, photons, waves, spin, fields, potential, quantum,quarks,orbitals,space, time etc. Proper physics required: “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon for ‘gravity ‘ etc.

[@DrSpooglemon]

"It was a very tight IR image" Yeah, the computer uses edge detection to enhance the image. It's a glare from the back of a distance jet that is being enhanced. And the SA was showing a flock of birds changing direction.

[@weisthor0815]

let´s see, a bunch of highly trained mililtary personell and other experts tell us that we don´t know what the heck this thing is, but thank god we have the random internet guy that knows the truth!

[@HollidaySpessa]

@@weisthor0815 since when should anyone believe the military or 'other experts'? the US gov and military are not, nor have ever been, reliable narrators. you're abandoning your critical thinking in favor of a guy whose entire public-facing career since leaving the military has been chasing UFO talk. why would the US gov in a million years release any footage of something they didn't know what it was? they know damn well they released video of birds and glares, that one vid is really plainly a bird and parallax effect. assuming in good faith they really didn't know thta, should you trust a world power who misses such a thing so easily? if it shows up on your grandmas nightly news, you can probably throw it in the bin.

[@azhivago2296]

@@weisthor0815 LOL yeh I never fail to be shocked by such absurd pretentiousness

[@phapnui]

I forget name of image expert but he said the same thing plus stuff about limitations of the jets radar and video. Very credible. He also debunked several other "releases" to the public, one of which turned out to be a mylar balloon.

[@weisthor0815]

@@HollidaySpessa they release it because they have no other choice. they can´t hide it any longer and therefore they realised they will have to prepare the public slowly for what is to come if they want to prevent turmoil or even worse. the alien presence on this planet is real and it has been for thousands of years.

[@Bteebz]

A lot of the observations here which seem to assert it’s a UFO actually describe how light would move, which would mean infrared/light artifacts would be a good way of characterize these objects

[@boomerang-digital8514]

but why would they be on radar

[@rastafasta100]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6Som4luecmGmNU

[@Sanchuniathon384]

They took photos as well, it's not made of light, it was metallic under electro-optical

[@Bteebz]

@@Sanchuniathon384 Maybe I missed that part. Do you have the time stamp?

[@Bteebz]

@@boomerang-digital8514 light artifacts can come up on a sensing device where either light is refracted in such a way that it appears to be a unique object or if there is light/signal interference when viewing a particular object, that object’s movement can be easily distorted. It’s like if you can imagine putting a straw in a cup with water, the straw can appear larger or in a different location than it would. Just a silly simple example of how that can happen in real life

[@nathaneivers8700]

Alright guys we located some UFO's, shall we mount some new cameras or stick with our Nokia cell phone quality cameras

[@FacePalmTheWorldArmy]

sure buddy. Seeing aliens at work but going back to your job... suuuuuuuuure ya did

[@michaelfabrizio2956]

Ion shielding

[@milkybar81]

Killing the fuel 5,45

[@warmonger8799]

[@khalidjjk]

It's a djinn. Not a UFO

[@sleepydoglee]

They were ducks.

[@jimsinthailand]

Balloons....

[@dqf9830]

Do the animals in the safari know they are in a zoo?

[@samwise9122]

johnny rico needs a haircut.

[@MichaelMcCabe-eb2bo]

😂😂

[@AlexAnom420]

the devs aren't playing.... meaning, stop the war shit

[@charleshultquist9233]

If I hear someone say tic tac I'm leaving my sub

[@aruleki]

Its a glare. Looks like a glare, rotates with the camera like a glare. Its clearly an artifact of the camera. Might be a glare from an alíen aircraft, and i dont argue the rest of the story. But the shape and the movement is explained with basic camera knowledge. Its not serious to keep saying its the actual shape of the object.

[@theidiotphilosopher]

we deserve disclosure!!

[@Sonickrunch]

The object moves because the camera gimbled...hence why it's called the gimble video(taken from a gimbled camera)...most of what this guy said was completely inaccurate or heresay since there's no video of these other objects or them moving around in ANY other direction than one direction as the planed moves around it(hence the clouds moving as they are parralaxing from the viewpoint of the camera).

[@greg8538]

As tech improves so do our sightings. Used to be a guy hanging one of his wife's plates on a power line and taking a fuzzy pic. Now it's a guy with a fancy drone and taking a fuzzy pic.

[@giedriustft3333]

just watch anton petrov video about these tiktoks

[@writethisthat3613]

Consistently ignoring objects invading your air space? Go ahead and ignore the gorilla in the room. Nothing to see here, moving along, all is well.

[@1999tenorio]

just shave it. ya,know

[@Ambersdf]

This video is called 'Gimble' bcos it was filmed using a gimble... 🤷🏽‍♂

[@jonrussell3905]

This interview is a whole lot of dancing around the subject. It is both impossible to be a natural phenomena or human technology. There is no natural metallic boulders occupying the skies defying gravity. There is no nation that is 100+ years more advanced than the rest. Were smashing particles together in colliders because we have zero understanding how gravity works and where it comes from. There is zero chance a nation has built crafts using gravity technologies let alone even figured it out. That leaves only two possible choices, they are from another star system or another dimension. Period. People need to wake up and face the reality of this.

[@BentleySkywalker]

Interdeminsional demons man

[@PronatorTendon]

Every time someone gives one or two possible choices and no others it's a big hint that they don't know what they're talking about

[@_OHEN]

Tom Cruise: hahahaha it was me .

[@craigthescott5074]

There may be some countries 100 years more advanced from others. We may be that much from a 3rd world country. but these crafts aren’t 100 years more advanced they are thousands of years more advanced, if they can manipulate gravity. We don’t even know how gravity works much less how to make it. I would agree these objects are not meteors, or a weather phenomenon, they are a solid craft and they are not from here. Even our own government is admitting this now. So that only leaves so many choices Pronator.

[@edimbukvarevic90]

Agree. And another dimension, future or another star/planet advanced civilisation is basically the same thing. It doesn't make much of a difference. Very advanced technology and also very advanced intelligence/psychology.

[@robstearns7080]

it was peole in a spaceship from another planet

[@fenrisodessa]

Only in america

[@mowvu5380]

does that guy know he's bald?

[@smark1180]

Graves' shtick in the context of UFO/UAP is "air safety." No aircraft has suffered any damage from a UFO/UAP encounter. However, there are over 13,000 bird strikes annually in the US alone. Damages are estimated at $400 million within the United States alone and up to $1.2 billion to commercial aircraft worldwide. His priorities seem misplaced.

[@matttilley8620]

I know nothing about anything, so forgive me for asking a dumb question. Is it possible that the enemy (or whomever) has devised some way to create an optical illusion just to screw around with your everyday activities?

[@HBC423]

People have tried to disprove this video, great to hear from the pilot. Everything all the skeptics said wad pure bs

[@DrSpooglemon]

You're a true believer.

[@mnassens]

Oh noes. They keep believing the blips are aliens.

[@aurid6838]

i thought the corridor crew guys debunked this video

[@wangfugui7217]

第四

[@teepot4539]

1rd

[@m_b4]

Get Mick west on here

[@erichagan7153]

I believe it's American missile defense tech. Seems like the gimbal could've been practicing chasing objects. It seems like some technology that the military has been working on in secret (like the Manhattan Project) since right after WWII.

[@MrLuridan]

The belief in Aliens has turned into a religion.

[@Apex-rl4fb]

There is far more evidence for Aliens than God.

[@ilostmehkeysandphone7540]

and it wasnt before?

[@Frenchy78ify]

mac 20

[@dtorres101]

Nah, belief in other intelligent creatures is rational. Science “as it’s practiced” is the prevailing religion.

[@MrLuridan]

@@dtorres101 Nah, there's no tangible evidence at all for "aliens'. You have to have "faith" that aliens exist and are visiting us, without any proof. Science doesn't need faith since good science is provable.

[@edwood53]

You can almost see the hair he wishes he had.

[@timgerard262]

Interesting, the pilot said "run out of gas" wouldn't a seasoned pilot say fuel? Jets do not use gasoline.

[@ReDzDoctor]

I think he's just using casual speak, dropping his jargon for the podcast. He would probably have said something like " While (they're) RTB with low fuel the pilots saw something on the FLIR that was white-hot but didn't engage because of the ongoing exercise and commands by flight lead at the time"

[@drechillin2154]

He just talking like normal not everyone feels like talking sophisticated lol just because your job is high ranking

[@UncleBobo]

The way these guy describe things make no sense to me. What I see in the video is a black oval shape that really could be anything.

[@KaneGregory]

I’m not impressed with those videos at all if you say you saw a UFO fine but that video doesn’t show jack it’s so bland I believe you are filming just another plane!🛸🤯🔫

[@MidNiteR32]

Oh look Military just proved Mick West right again and that GIMBAL object is NOT rotating.

[@stevenc301]

Fifth.