Ryan Graves: UFOs, Fighter Jets, and Aliens | Lex Fridman Podcast

Lt. Ryan Graves is a former Navy fighter pilot, who has worked on advanced research and development programs for DARPA, Office of Naval Research, and Air Force Research Labs on topics of multi-agent collaborative autonomy, AI-assisted air-to-air combat, and manned-unmanned teaming technologies. Ryan and people in his squadron detected and engaged with UFOs on multiple occasions, and he has been one of the few people willing to speak publicly about these experiences. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:18 - Top Gun analysis
14:23 - Fighter jets
1:01:50 - UFO sightings
1:28:18 - Congressional hearing
1:36:19 - Tic Tac UFO & Gimbal UFO
1:50:45 - Alien life
2:04:07 - Autonomous weapon systems
2:21:15 - Advice for young people
2:29:30 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - GiveWell: www.givewell.org/ and use code LEX - Notion: notion.com/startups to get up to $1000 off team plan - Magic Spoon: magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 1:18 - Top Gun analysis 14:23 - Fighter jets 1:01:50 - UFO sightings 1:28:18 - Congressional hearing 1:36:19 - Tic Tac UFO & Gimbal UFO 1:50:45 - Alien life 2:04:07 - Autonomous weapon systems 2:21:15 - Advice for young people 2:29:30 - Meaning of life

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

Never forget that Aleyster Crowleu designed the look of the typical grey alien, with his "dark being" named LAM. Same cranium just smaller eyes than what since has seeped into collective consciousness.

[@Jasonsteel334]

No such things as aliens. GOD is real. only ONE world. Anything else is DEmonic.

[@r.w.6556]

Yeah...lol. Ethical leadership lolol.

[@randyross5630]

No one has yet proven to me that this of Extraterrestrial Origins, Specially within the Context of all the other Hominids to Hominoids we've already discovered in the Fossil Record, and BONES!

[@randyross5630]

I'm sure some much less evasive Hominid to Hominoid Terrestrial Species would love for in some Cases their Cousins to Others think they are from outer space oppose to in Remote Areas in the other 2/3rds the Land Mass we don't inhabit, to In Underground Networks to Under the Ocean. Give them more safety from us, and power over us, the only logical move...

[@Michael-rx2hv]

Thank you for getting into podcasting, Lex. I like Rogan but as an engineer myself I was frustrated that he didn't seem to be asking the right questions of his science-literate guests. You've really filled that niche without sacrificing the human element of the conversation- you're killing it!

[@platoman214]

AZZECATISSIMO‼

[@imnotsmartbutimdumb]

What do you mean without sacrificing the human element??? A robot is hosting this podcast!

[@FairNuff]

Well put

[@ReadABookAndLearn]

Sometimes he asks the right questions. Other times he interrupts the guests to ask stupid questions that aren’t necessary and would likely be answered if he just let the guest finish his sentence. For instance, at the beginning of this episode he spent so much time asking about how different speeds feel, to ultimately seem surprised to learn that acceleration/deceleration is what’s felt by pilots/occupants and velocity is essentially imperceptible. Which is basic physics that most people figure out in childhood with their first rides in cars, planes, etc. Or he’ll stop to ask about definitions of everyday words, instead of just assuming that everyone listening speaks English. Don’t misunderstand, most of the time Lex is great. He’s one of my favorites. But he can really be frustrating when he starts asking questions that Joe Rogan might ask.

[@johnjohn-hv3mh]

Joe Rohan is not a engineer or scientist? Joe Rogan opened up a world to podcasting . None of this would of happened if it wasn’t for joe organ . Lex Friedman would not exist if not for joe Rogan

[@Bender2497]

FOBS (Graves' callsign) was a student of mine when he was learning the F-18. We also went to Aviation Safety Officer's school together. He's a solid dude.

[@bearschmidt3180]

Have you ever seen a ufo/uap , in person?

[@Bender2497]

@@bearschmidt3180 I have not, and I've been flying in the same airspace that he's talking about for roughly five years, also during that timeframe that he mentions. I can say that others have seen them, and we were told to report any near-midair events with any UAVs in the working area. We were using the term UAV vice UAP, but could be interchangeable. But personally, never did see any.

[@LowKickMT]

FABS is a nice callsign though 🫡😂

[@LowKickMT]

@@Bender2497 what is your take on these videos? tictac: could it be a visual track that is lost due to zoom / mode manipulation? gofast: could it be a bird that the wso tried to catch just for laughs and skill demonstration? does the provided data onscreen / triangulation indicates its not as fast as the ufo guys are telling us? gimbal: do you see the small rotations everytime the atflir has some wobble? could it be glare that we see? do you think it could be truster from a space x rocket that was launched on that day and region? this could explain the wedge position of the "fleet" on the SA page

[@againsteternity110]

This is an awesome tidbit to read! Seems odd to thank you for your service as I'm in South Africa, but fighter jets are so damned cool I'm gonna thank you anyway! lol

[@smax4895]

I was a sailor on the USS Nimitz in 2004 when we spotted the tic-tac UFO video. I worked as a Reactor Operator in the Nuke plant, but I remember having a smoke that night and talking to one of the Pilots and flight crew from VFA-41. They were super amped up about it and I remember believing them (knowing that these guys would be crazy to make something like this up), but the hype just died down a few days later and I stored that memory somewhere in the back of my brain. When the DOD released the video in 2017, I couldn’t believe what I was watching. Putting the two events together changed my perspective on life all-together. I had always thought deeply about life elsewhere in the Universe, but having actual first hand knowledge and data helped make my mind up for good.

[@tbo2120]

Respect brother.

[@bpacheco6]

I've listened to this almost every night since I've heard it to fall asleep. Ryan's and lex's voice is so relaxing. Quite a few times I heard Ryan mention landing at night on the ship it's terrifying to imagine being on that situation..relying on someone on board to see a little light on your jet to help you land...yet it's so peaceful to listen to that story ,....landing on a dark ship middle of ocean. Amazing. These fighter pilots are a whole other level so much respect is due

[@steve0ne11]

I love how much Lex has been covering these UFO related topics.

[@vids595]

I'll agree with you on that when he has Mick West on.

[@seanmccall7277]

Me too. It's either earthly, which means we humams actually have this remarkable tech, or...it's "other". Either way, it's an exciting time to be alive.

[@dzidmail]

​@@seanmccall7277 ...or it's people keep misinterpreting camera screens.

[@masonnash9305]

Lex's guests**

[@ivanjdrakov1957]

I agree totally bro

[@cameronscottcairney8852]

My grandad flew the F-86 as a fighter pilot through the Korean War. He had many interesting stories. After he passed away I was allowed to dig through his study and found a small bundle of carbon copies of some select mission reports from his time leading patrols over Alaska and Canada. All of them were describing UFO sightings. They all described spherical or tic-tac shaped objects that could hover motionless, match his high speeds with ease and do circles around the F-86s at high speeds and altitudes … then zip out of sight. I never got to ask him detailed questions that could elaborate on these experiences of his. But I do have memories of him expounding now and then on the incredible things that were being built by our government.

[@majisher]

Share more details! 🙏

[@alec5151]

That's really cool! If you could make them available online and drop a link that would be amazing!

[@1961Lara]

Super cool! I lived in Alaska for35 years. Never saw one myself...

[@ryanb9749]

Sabres are awesome.

[@robvangrieken2615]

Interresting! Are these documents published somewhere?

[@peakydene1943]

Ryan and Lex are two wonderful, highly intelligent, benevolent, kind, progressive, curious, purposeful, compassionate human beings. And Ryan is as brave as anyone could be. I believe that both Ryan and Lex became who they were meant to become, whether by design or chance, and the world is a better place with them here-doing what they each are doing-at this particular time and place. I am elderly-in my eighth decade- and I feel privileged to have just been able to watch this video and listen to them talk to one another. They, and others like them, give me hope for future generations.

[@NorthernGreenEyes]

❤

[@kylesdeadbro]

Man… I KNOW you’ve seen so much change, and innovation in your 80 years. Just the last two decades have been CRAZY.. A life of many perspectives, I’d say! Stay informed! 📚👍🏼 Aliens rule! 👽🛸

[@emmaread5505]

I’ve seen Ryan speak on many occasions and what I love about this chat you’ve asked beyond technical questions. Humanity and philosophy. This was extremely thoughtful and mind opening. Thank you

[@sturmanaskie]

This is one of the smartest guys you’ve had on your show Lex. And genuine and humble. Kudos to him.

[@LowKickMT]

highly doubt graves is one of the smartest guys on this podcast lol

[@DBFIU]

@@LowKickMT agreed, lol what about Josha bach, Roger Penrose, John Carmack etc.

[@LowKickMT]

@@DBFIU hes easily bottom five in this podcast together with David Fravor, Theo Von, Joe Rogan and one wildcard (has he interviewed Eric Weinstein by any chance?)

[@akoskovacs1337]

@@LowKickMT Smarter than you... I know the bar is low - but anyways

[@LowKickMT]

@@akoskovacs1337 could be. but that wasnt your initial argument lol

[@anonony9081]

Hearing him describe the pilots seeing a black cube with a translucent sphere around it gave me chills

[@jayyy4491]

Sounded a lot like a huge mushroom trip. Seeing these strange shapes in your sights in reality. Gave me the chills too just like when I tripped.

[@birsay123]

No problem. It’s just the Borg.

[@ward142]

Black cube. That tells you a lot more than most people can see!

[@bperusek]

Anyone know the size of these spheres? I’m imagining something 5’ in diameter.

[@zacharyfindlay-maddox171]

"Resistance is futile"

[@PiperPurdon]

It’s refreshing to hear two curious and intelligent people speak respectfully and pragmatically about subjects that have a high emotive response. Ryan is a rare breed of decency, of deep curiosity to better understand the world we live in, of common sense along with deep understanding of what matters. I find it most intriguing to say the least that knowing that there are unexplained anomalies right in one’s airspace but as a pilot you have to compartmentalise it to focus on the job at hand. The mental gymnastics that takes is incredible. I’ve mad respect for Ryan and others who’ve spoken up at huge risk but with an underlying fortitude that it’s the right thing to do because there’s a greater concern that requires proper attention. It’s frustrating to think that we are no closer than we were decades ago that we are still trying to get our leadership to show some degree of seriousness. I fear that by putting in place these investigative bodies together with some acknowledgment by Government that we’ll end up where we have previously : nowhere. And decade passes by again. I am concerned the stonewalling is not whether there’s evidence that something otherworldly exists because there’s been enough evidence of their presence globally denial is futile, but that we’re hindered by belief systems that sits at the top echelons of government who are stoic in not wanting to entertain what they would essentially deem as demonic such is their dogmas about this matter is concerned. I think that Ryan knows this so he is intelligent enough to be measured, factual and pragmatic in his recount. It’s much harder to shut that down. He gives sound insight. Clearly takes ownership - I admire these qualities . Thank you Lex you asked intelligent questions.

[@TheAntManMan]

I see you trying to use big words and im proud of you bro! However, i believe clarity via punctuation is much more valuable than a diverse vocabulary. I was a terrible student and i relate to you’re vibe, its awesome your watching this pod and continuing to learn in your free time!❤️ much love bro👽

[@PiperPurdon]

@@TheAntManMan fair comment usually I’ve have time to write coherently but literally banged this out whilst waiting on an appointment. And speaking of correcting others, did you actually read your own response. You’d be better served by setting the example - all you’ve managed to achieve is the ole pot calling kettle black

[@ebaystars]

@@TheAntManMan he is Mr Bombastic Utter Fantastic!

[@alexlarsen6413]

​@@PiperPurdon That comment you've replied to wasn't fair in the slightest. Don't give in to these d-bags, not even in a sarcastic manner because they won't get the sarcasm. You wrote a lot but with enough punctuation. Besides only a high school dropout would consider anything in your comment as "big words". That being said; do you really think the people responsible are ignoring these testimonies due to their belief systems?? As you say: if they acknowledged it, they'd have to consider it demonic...according to their belief system. That honestly seems beyond bizarre to me, but then again I'm not particularly familiar with American politics. I just know some of the best science comes out of the US. I've served with some brilliant, rational, pragmatic Americans, both in the military and those adjacent to it. Is the discrepancy between the experts and the politicians really that great??

[@itzajdmting]

If these pilots are seeing these things so regularly, most likely many other individuals have too. Someone else knows more about these things most likely, but at present they're just keeping quiet. I'm a civilian pilot non-commercial and I saw a UAP in 2009. It moved in the same way others have stated in that it behaved as if it was indifferent to the atmosphere/airflow. As it decelerated it underwent some sort of lateral wobble left and right - it was most unusual I've never seen anything like that before - it was like it was suspended within some unseen field, and had some ability to resist against or induce itself forward into this field for means of propulsion. As it changed course then accelerated it had the same intinial wobble but remained at a steady speed. It seemed fairly slow from the ground. But I was unable to ascertain its altitude as it was giving off an omnidirectional bright white light. In other words it emitted light from all angles, unlike a plane or chopper. It was bizarre. Always wondered what that damn thing was. Went online at the time and after trawling through a load of other sightings I found a similar sighting made by another pilot and also qualified engineer - what he described was identical to what I saw. So I know others have seen this thing too.

[@EvidenceOfData]

Hello, Any indication of speed or rate of acceleration?

[@williamkacensky4796]

Your sighting is genuine unlike many who spread false narratives. I have been observing them for 62 years. I could write a book on this subject but I do not have the time or interest. Thanks for sharing.

[@itzajdmting]

@@EvidenceOfData the speed was quite ordinary... It approached me at altitude then slowed down to a very slow speed almost directly above where I was standing - that's how I was able to witness this lateral/side to side motion - then it changed direction, sped up to it's prior speed which again, because I could not estimate it's altitude I could not comment on its speed... Except to say that it's speed and acceleration was unremarkable and not really of interest it's more the other unusual details that disqualify it as a conventional aircraft, balloon, drone, satellite etc.

[@itzajdmting]

@@williamkacensky4796what have you seen? What are the common features, and approximately how many individual sightings have you made

[@williamkacensky4796]

@Rob S Hi Rob, see that photo next to my name. This is a screenshot taken from a 4k photo/video in Summerlin Las Vegas, on May 9th, 2020 at 5:58 pm. Covid was at its peak. As a pilot, you know the flight cancelations that took place here. In other words, the sky was barren. Furthermore, this incident took place at a non-military fly zone. Nellis and CREECH have their training practice along the Sheep mountain range. At least 25 miles from here. My photos/videos have been authenticated by a 7 member lab team located on the east coast. This past to present sightings, I have observed over 700 of their vehicles. I have accumulated a minimum of 2,775 hours of observation. As I mentioned before, I could write a book on this subject. No one would believe me so there is no sense in writing about it. I will tell you and others that might read this, that extraterrestrial visitors are here and I have proof but since ignorance runs deep in the scientific community, I just have to wait until someone takes notice. These visitors in my opinion are not a threat. We do not own this planet or the space-time frame that encompasses it. Their speed and maneuverability are off the charts. I believe the US Navy sightings such as David Fravor as legit. This includes your sighting. After 62 years of observation, I have a good inclination of what is true or not. Lastly, what I know of them I will remain silent until I have scientific backing to continue my research. For you, as a pilot, they mimic the stars.

[@jocpowell1]

This chap is on another level. Damn, he’s an extremely concise talker, a really interesting listen. Cheers Lex

[@thomashaley1036]

I agree. Dense wording.

[@PosthumousAddress]

Pity Fridman is such a moron.

[@thomashaley1036]

@@PosthumousAddress You wouldn't even have a proper definition of moron versus idiot, so I won't waste my time insulting You in Latin.

[@nomandad2000]

@@PosthumousAddressare you gd serious?

[@GreySpyder]

He explains technical jargon way too much...just dont use it. not concise

[@LukeNeidig]

Lt. Graves does a great job at explaining what it’s like being in a fighter jet , probably does a better job than any other pilot at making it relatable and understandable to the average person. I learned a ton just from the beginning of this interview. Very interesting stuff.

[@Mattirondack]

It was incredible. I learned SO MUCH!

[@-108-]

Agreed. I love listening to accomplished fighter pilots talk shop. Their language is so precise, direct, and specific. When they say something, they mean exactly what they say... and there is never any way to misinterpret it. Refreshing.

[@epitaph4humanity]

Check out channel Leto Files Retired fighter pilot with focus on ufo / uap. He has the real talk He recently did a collab with Kurt from TOE > theory of everything pod, and has many more excellent in depth vids, natural jargon / lingo & math 👍

[@seltonk5136]

I'm going to car wash school in the fall

[@TheDecapitatedApple]

bro I was gonna say, this is insanely descriptive and imaginative he did a great job

[@landon4216]

Lex, your ability to build a question and pivot where needed, is incredible. Thanks for bringing content that can actually influence.

[@theapocalex]

just absolutely phenomenal, i mean how does he do it? Incredible! Hes going to change the world 🤣

[@johntoffee2566]

Beautiful conversation. Articulate. Measured. Humble. Thank you.

[@travistouchdown1812]

Lt. Graves is such a great story teller. I love how he develops and reveals the information for us at the perfect pace, keeping me completely engaged without overloading or speaking over my head.

[@minibuns5397]

I like how he tried slipping in that TALL tale about seeing aliens hahahah. That’s a special kind of crazy hahaha

[@lorenheard2561]

@@minibuns5397 I like your Squirrel,as I am a Squirrel fanatic,but even animals like Horses,hate Alien abductions... It NEVER goes well for Horses,or Cows... Ever!!🐿️🐄🐎🛸👽👽👽👽

[@alexeilindes7507]

He has never seen a physical uap w his own eyes...

[@treeoftreason6564]

Here the REAL DEAL UFO kzbin.infowUzLWCtQmS0?feature=share

[@little_wonderer9290]

@@minibuns5397 You're jealous that you haven't seen any lol

[@bambino2378]

I love how Lex spends the first hour enabling his guest to establish his credibility. What a guy. Amazing interview.

[@dbmusic4114]

more like has to get over his tom cruise obsession.

[@anontimothy8]

Almost like he was trained by an intelligence agency...

[@CEELOW3000]

genius

[@urbro2]

Same with david fravor, good stuff

[@dotexe-vn5hf]

I hadn't heard of this man until doing some research on Ryan's story, but I LOVE Lex's style. He not only enabled Ryan to establish credibility like you said, but he made him feel comfortable (and he is at least acting convincingly comfortable). This is such a chill conversation. I could fall asleep.

[@cknowles3980]

I’ve listened to Ryan several times so I thought this would be boring wow was I wrong I think this is my favorite interview so far, thank you Lex for asking the great questions as usual.

[@michaelmargotta1828]

One of the best interviews in the history of interviews from the perspective of the questions and the answers and the life observations shared. Thank you both for being authentic which is rare in a podcast.

[@ebaystars]

you must be young

[@rolandconnor575]

Normally what I am about to say goes against every fiber of my being, but I believe every word that this guy says.

[@guywebster8018]

Kind of hard not to when ya got the stuff on vid and the American government acknowledges it

[@Jay_Hall]

Roland, why do U fear?

[@NaneuxPeeBrane]

@@Jay_Hall It's not fear. Its conservation of that last bit of skeptical brain... we need it... otherwise we believe everything we hear. This is so convincing as "truth" because he explains with detail and seeming honesty.

[@moonshadowlelune5426]

Have you never seen one? Look up Lex. I look for them. Ive seen 3 over my life & dreamed i was on one in space. I also had an out of body experience once. Im not a witch, i'm a Christian now but wasnt tnen. I have had prophetic dreams all my life. Twice I dreamed of an alien invasion in the sky, not on the ground. Ive dreamt reoeatedly of tsunamis coming over land. Very high. Ive had multiple dreams of jet fighters crashing in America. Close to where i was. Hot metal was raining down with fire. I was running to get my family. It was terrifying.😮

[@jungtarcph]

@@moonshadowlelune5426 Fun fact, there is more documentation for these UFO, than there is for the excistence of God.

[@majisher]

Lt. Ryan Graves is on the forefront of solving the UFO enigma. We owe him a great deal of gratitude for his service to America and humanity as a whole. Why do UFOs behave like curious, teleporting hummingbirds around our biggest/fastest flying machines?

[@phlanjo]

He seems highly intelligent, I wouldn't be surprised if he has been seconded

[@iraniansuperhacker4382]

maybe they are just intelligent teleporting hummingbirds? You ever think about that?

[@millhouse782]

Maybe there is no curious pilot, perhaps the entire UFO is an organism in and of itself. Or maybe, it’s an organism and it isn’t an alien at all. A careful terrestrial species that has inhabited earth for a long time, evolved to survive by hiding from everything else

[@tommyhopkins6431]

@@phlanjo ufo noob here, what does seconded mean in this context? i also think he seems smart

[@majisher]

@@millhouse782 Yes! And a more advanced lifeform/machine would be weirder than we can imagine. Precisely why we may need AI to help solve the enigma. The efforts to reverse-engineer UFO behavior and material are our best hope through tools we've created that are smarter than us.

[@brokens1097]

Even setting the event aside, hearing the discription from an intelligent well respected individuals first hand account of an event s priceless. Great interview.

[@als1023]

What a great honour to be a part of this. Lex can plan listen and execute with the best of the best !! Ryan Graves gives such credence to the wonderful world he was trained in. I rarely hear anything like this coming out of ruzzia. Lex refers to the Ukraine war multiple times,, small wonder.

[@martinprovaz5485]

I like how Ryan was careful from beginning, mainly about UAPs and then he went full send about possible ext. life and experiments with a matter. Another incredible podcast. Sometimes I wish I would have a bunch of friends that I could sit down with, open beer or maybe a whiskey and watch Lex’s podcasts and discuss these burning topics. That would fill me with joy.

[@walterlotte4215]

I have that... I mean friends. It's less exciting than you think. Some of the more boring conversations that I had during my lifetime.

[@jayyy4491]

We here buddy. Got my whiskey too

[@Rogelio_007]

@@JohnDoe-bi5cc Solid NO! Our technology has jumped in leaps and bounds and all we can do is figure out how to leverage technology to wipe ourselves out. Like giving a blind monkey a gun.

[@nobody6032]

@@martinprovaz5485 Agreed. He could have fuckin sold that UAP bullshit... but he didn't. He actually was quite careful considering any assumptions. Great watch

[@nosrevinellanelaa5125]

Let’s make a group chat/ video conference. Schedule it weekly/ fortnightly lastly give out invitations make a toast🍺. It’s a good idea. Pretty soon you’ll be in touch with people in ur area. Send me an invite.

[@SomeKindOfTease]

Ryan sounds like a great guy, we need more guys like him in our world.

[@ultmiddle4991]

And that very thing is happening, one LF interview at a time.

[@eyoutube1]

I hope other AF pilots are like him.

[@MrSimonw58]

Did the aliens probe him ? 👽

[@djrafash2715]

Reptilian that’s what he is🛸

[@biglollol]

Dude sounds like he'd rather have a beer and have some fun than gloating over his achievements. Very humble vibe.

[@asarunelson5245]

I'm Glad Brave People Are Coming Out And Revelling The Truth. Big Up Ryan Every Time 💯👍🏿

[@ChadnRanda]

The man you are Lex, yes yes the man you ARE!.?! Counting on you very much we all ARE. We love your love for us all. So many thanks and much respect is deserved! Though foreal, appreciated ARE you!.?!

[@3ggyt0ast]

I got teared up when Ryan was talking about finding peace in nature. I also want to acknowledge and praise his advice to young people: that he encourages young people to ask questions and explore at the risk of being misunderstood or laughed at, for the sheer Love and Care, very specific words, of the pursuit of learning and growing. What a great interview. I really enjoyed it!

[@adamumagpire7848]

Well said good sir, have a great day:D

[@3ggyt0ast]

@A M yes. Disagreeing with someone's life choices and unethical behavior does not render me incapable of sympathizing with someone and for them. He has his karma to deal with. No matter how much wrong a person does, i am still able to learn from them. It's fine for you to disagree with me. I'm not looking to enter into another internet argument. Peace to you.

[@derekaugust872]

You got tears from a KZbin video? What a girly man.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@3ggyt0ast - While appreciating your general sentiment and agreeing with you, just how far and deeply do you extend sympathy towards another whose unethical ( and/or evil ) choices and actions can bring profound trauma to the world? From an abuser to a dictator. The most extreme being a Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. My role model of all time is Jesus Christ, for example, and He had tremendous compassion on "sinners", yet publicly shamed and excoriated the corrupt religious leaders of His people. And maybe He did sympathize with these corrupt leaders in His heart of hearts, but that wasn't recorded. I am curious about the finer points of your opinion here, not in a deceptive way to aggressively argue over the topic. ( My 2 Cents: There seems to be a much heavier weight on extending sympathy and understanding to perpetrators than stressing sympathy for victims. )

[@3ggyt0ast]

@@machtnichtsseimann i think it's possible to Love every person in that you can offer compassion, decency, and try to see them for who they Truly are. I'm not saying it's easy. It's probably one of the hardest things to do, especially when you have to forgive others, and yourself. In the case that you mentioned concerning people who have hurt many people and committed serious acts of violence, if you or your loved ones are personally affected, this becomes even more difficult. I come from a belief that we are all One, that we come from the same place and will return there eventually. i also believe i have the responsibility to defend myself from violence and do my best to prevent violence from happening to others. So, my belief in our humanity and oneness would not stop me from using force, up to and including lethal force, to prevent violence. Whether you believe that means i can or cannot still lend sympathy towards these folks is up to you. Thanks for your nicely-worded, non-hostile response lol

[@pablohansen6953]

Your content quality is unmatched, Lex; you are my favorite content creator by a huge stretch. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@XoXo475]

Him and Kurt Jaimingal’s Theories Of Everything are the best out there

[@kittervision]

This is top shelf podcasting :)

[@cullyx2913]

Ryan is such an interesting,super intelligent guy.

[@edwardtrezza8129]

Rex make a spaceship getting it and fly away

[@KaySloan]

Im sorry to say, but I wish the questions were better.

[@aimanmahmood8330]

I never finished this interview, but after the congressional hearing couple days ago, I could not help it but notice how impressive is Ryans personality, how articulate he is and knowledgeable, so I came back to finish this interview , and boy I was not disappointed. listen to time stamp Alien life 1:50 and what he has to say about theories for future propellants and manipulation of matter. the whole interview is gold. thank you gentlemen for an intriguing conversation.

[@Books_Makeup]

The intellectual chemistry between Lex and Graves is amazing which is why this works⚛⚛ I'm loving it. Great episode with a great conversation.

[@geneinpennsylvania]

100% right on point

[@StephenDedalus74]

Yes !!! Agree !!! They could even start a new podcast that they would host together, it would be awesome !!! :)

[@lapislazuli7876]

It’s a sexy interview.

[@pureruckuspower2165]

The level of calm while working a highly complex machine.... in the air. Is just astounding to me.

[@AliciaM5555]

Ikr?! People who are trained to soley concentrate on such technical tasks literally do not allow themselves time for any personal self reflection. It's uncanny.

[@Merlin.Twiggles]

Great show, Lex. I appreciate you taking him seriously. You seem to bring up a new topic at just the right time without intupting him.

[@AssassinACS]

I could have listened to 4 hours of this. Outstanding stuff!

[@treeoftreason6564]

UFO CAUGHT OVER MY LAKE kzbin.infowUzLWCtQmS0?feature=share

[@jamesherren3479]

@@scaramanga8121 or even 7 or 8 hrs. 🤷‍♂️

[@ZombieRommel]

I am super impressed with this guy. The way he clearly and concisely answers questions is incredible. A subject matter expert and excellent communicator.

[@Man_fay_the_Bru]

Yeah how weird a guy trusted with a billion dollar jet has a basic grasp of english huh😏

[@ZombieRommel]

@@Man_fay_the_Bru It's not a "basic grasp of English." It's high level communication skills, and not every intelligent person has them.

[@robertbelongia6887]

Listening intently to Lex Fridman interviews more and more and overwhelmed by the quality of guests. Kudos to Lex for many reasons. A heartfelt Thank you to Lt. Ryan Graves for your former service and what you are doing today.

[@radamus210]

It's comforting to know we have such big brains looking over us like this Lt

[@kristian80au]

Great episode, I much prefer people like this over 'celebrities'.

[@johnalcala]

Surprisingly I really enjoyed this entire interview from start to finish. Tuned in for the UFO stuff but stayed for the rest.

[@jschauer31]

Lex is so great at interviewing amazing and interesting/intelligent people. Thank you, Lex.

[@raven6245]

Great stuff. As a old retired ag pilot that flew under power lines and over sprinkler systems all day long I really like hearing from other pilots and there experience.

[@jasonmitchell6773]

The whole conversation was fascinating, not just the UFO talks. Thank you.

[@ketchuppoptart]

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[@549BR]

Sometimes my eyes cross when I'm listening to these two guys; translucent globes with cubes inside. Zowie 😎

[@ridingluna]

I just come here to hear about the Tic Tac subject coming from Ryan ..... i i got immersed in an unexpected philosophical conversation, about life and values. With an incredible " wired " in a very good way interviewer ( first time i saw you Lex, with all my respect ), and an incredible human been with a very unique profession like being a US Jet Pilot ..... This was just wayyyyyyy more then expected Tic Tac thing ..... Thank you so much for this deep human conversation .... i felt so deeply touched with the humility of both of you in all the subjects ....... Just wow ....... blow min mind in an unexpected way.

[@luscid5602]

This was awesome. One of my brothers is an F18 pilot about to be a squadron commander and my other brother teaches flight instructors how to be instructors for the air force. Many parallels in his stories and thoughts. Very intriguing, informative and thought provoking!!

[@neeneenee]

Fuck yeah another aliens/ufo episode!

[@bunniburtuqoli6987]

@@chuck5419 😂

[@joeluft8969]

I truly love and greatly appreciate everything Mr Graves said, here. His responses are incredibly thoughtful, intelligent, and insightful. I learned a great deal about MANY things from listening to him in this interview. And it has inspired tremendous hope in me to realize that there are exceptional human beings (like this remarkable gentleman) in this mixed up, complicated world, in spite of what I may encounter in my day-to-day life.

[@joeluft8969]

PS I also must acknowledge the SUPERB work of Mr Fridman, here; his mastery of guiding this interview and encouraging an amazingly organized torrent of information on a vast array of topics is nothing short of brilliant.

[@privatepilot4064]

I worked for a simulator manufacturer and was part of a team that designed and built the first computerized Landing Signal Officer training simulator for the US Navy. Very advanced trainer for the early 90s. The trainer was extremely effective in training LSOs. It was fun to run during lunch breaks too!

[@rigenmehilli5864]

Ryan is a very well spoken, kind dude. Great interview with lots of useful insights

[@Robliss]

Im amazed how well spoken this guy is. Even outside of military nomenclature, his vocabulary is incredible. Allows him to quickly explain complex ideas; effectively.

[@MRkhaldrogo]

Mechanical and aero engineering. Says enough

[@bluemountain1411]

No offence but that’s revealing about your IQ 😂

[@Robliss]

@@bluemountain1411 Theres more to intelligence than vocabulary/speaking ability. Your comment is even more revealing about you.

[@sirlancair]

I'm sure there are better ways to comment about your comment than cutting you down, because it is a good observation for which there are good reasons. There is a deep misguided thought that college is useless, perpetuated even by genius level IQ holders (probably bc they are able to self teach an entire course on dynamics eg). The truth is that most college courses require little abstract thought or problem solving. There are many exceptions of course , eg, all of the sciences and mathematics. Their language is precise, and necessarily so. As an example, the lamen says, well, " it's just" a "Theory" of relativity, whereas scientists hold the term "theory" to an extremely high bar. These men are scientists, and as such, they have a command of language that directs precise meaning so as to be as unambiguous as possible. ..Not perfect, but limiting the range of interpretation to minimize misunderstanding

[@bluemountain1411]

@@sirlancair your a nobody and will die forgotten

[@SnackPack913]

I think the best thing I’ve learned from my engineering studies and now job is just how little I know. When I was younger going through school I used to think I knew a lot compared to most of the peers around me but I got humbled real quick in grad school and now employment. There are some incredibly smart people in this world and I should really try harder to better myself

[@adyorvanderlei4767]

Understanding what you don't know makes you smart

[@justasslajus5982]

two absolute legends. Inpiration can come just from listening to two great minds talking about anything. Thank you so much.

[@RTS907]

“Talking” Lol

[@549BR]

Walking, talking, and chewing gum; the great trifecta.😎

[@momakinde4817]

Best Lex interview I’ve seen so far, and i must say all your interviews are all very good but this one really resonates. You’re a very genuine host even to the point of stressing and empathizing with your guests experience. I salute you

[@VakningIS]

.þ 4þþ K....

[@butoikaruga]

This is the most wise, non-bias, professional and respectful UFO talk I've ever heard.

[@rooskadoodle5952]

Spent so many hours listening to Graves since this podcast came out. So proud to have people like him willing to stick the foot in the door and stand for truth and our constitution against the powers that be. He does still look good present day now that he's succumbed to his male pattern baldness and shaved it off. Thanks so much Ryan there's a lot of us with you

[@privatepilot4064]

I was one of the “lucky” guys in the Navy that had to clean up an A-7E Corsair that had a massive, multiple bird strike episode. Massive damage to the intake, wing leading edges and engine. Stinky, dried bird flesh everywhere. I also had to rebuild an engine that had ingested several birds. Remarkably enough the engine wasn’t damaged that bad physically. Just a lot of foreign object debris that had to be cleaned out.

[@RyanHoguePassiveIncome]

Very interesting, love hearing ex-Navy discuss UFOs - thanks Lex! 👍

[@rocknrollreststop7110]

I think Ryan has become my favorite team member in the ufo phenomenon. Super credible. Incredible stuff.

[@wwolfdogs]

Mr. Graves is in all likelihood a paid shill, courtesy of the military /industrial/complex, employed to divert attention away from true origin of the the cutting-edge technology utilized by these flying machines. You can bet there is a guy somewhere in Virginia with a joystick in his hand, laughing his ass off. Sorry Bob Lazar, no aliens in this TicTac.

[@MrCrockett1]

So is it credible or incredible?

[@vikinghammer87]

@@MrCrockett1 Both lol

[@frankfindout1505]

Bob Lazar

[@michaelmartin7514]

😅😂

[@justinjones5281]

40:28. So profound. When you are stressed at all your vision changes to suit fight or flight. Your brain also interprets data differently. Wow LEX is a great host.

[@mayaamis]

this guy's brain just operates on a whole other level

[@22triggy]

Outstanding, two very impressive young men.

[@kuga428]

This was one of the best and most respect-filled interviews on aviation and Ryan's assessment of his experience with these unknown objects. His perspective has not been given the seriousness it deserved. Thank you for being the interviewer you are. It was time well spent.

[@christianmorales5974]

I don’t see how one cannot take a man like this seriously but honestly i think the government is starting to take people Like him seriously. It’s the public that’s still struggling

[@ClickClack_Bam]

@@christianmorales5974 There's a KZbin channel of "special effects experts" named: Corridor Crew They "review" all the top UFO footage by immediately damning it & laughing at it, then they recreate how they think it was done or how they'd exactly do it. They irk me personally, but they've got their subscribers bought & sold on these are fraud videos. Go watch some of these videos on this stuff they do. They blame all kinds of things they claim are what they really saw. Lens dirt, to the shape of the iris, to lamp shades are what they say are some of the reasons they recreate.

[@yan.weather]

Wonderful, intelligent, good hearted conversations. Thank you Lex!

[@5chitzo]

Here rewatching after the recent news/leaks ❤

[@Kidd42O]

Same here

[@toddtrillo7445]

Thank you Lex and Ryan for this fascinating pod cast

[@spookyninja4098]

Great interview - Luis Elizondo says there is a very high quality 20 minute UFO video from FA18s that AATIP has but the Pentagon has not released

[@djacob9800]

Also he said they have a classified picture taken from a cockpit of a jet airliner which the ufo was about 50 feet away, its clear and detailed.

[@stuartsiglain3972]

Of course. All the best videos are off limits.

[@beklerken1]

What an intelligent and real, gentleman Ryan is and how I wish that the governments and authorities related could be real and transparent as Ryan is about the subject. TY Lex for asking the questions that come to my mind. Greetings from Oz.

[@vikinghammer87]

He’s a special human that’s for sure

[@ronaldpellet854]

Ryan is so sharp I can see how he be a great pilot if his mind keeps continuity speaking as fast as he does that’s amazing

[@marybodnar4749]

I’ve watched this 3 times so far, in its entirety. Ryan is one hell of an impressive young man.

[@happyvalley6990]

and he sprays chemtrails on Americans.

[@michaelalan6459]

Me too. The UFO aspect is interesting but just listening to him talking about flying and his career is awesome.

[@shellderp]

Every pilot I've seen talk seems to have an amazing story

[@maryrobinson9300]

@@datiger39 LinkedIn says he started university in 2001. I'm guessing he graduated high school that year, as well. So, 39-40.

[@Nobnoxious]

Agree, when I see men like this are part of the military I feel more secure.

[@DrGonzo-jl9wq]

Thank you Ryan and Lex for keeping the UAP/UFO topic alive!

[@lisamuir4261]

I loved the detailed description and detail of what it is like to fly and land on the Naval ships. The blind landings was intense. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@ltv..123]

It was an honor to hear two intellectuals discuss a topic I’m very interested in. I’m a retired Aerospace Engineer and I’ve always believed that the universe is in stasis and it’s our minds that stir it, explore it and learn from it.

[@stephenembrey883]

By far the most logical and carefully thought out interview I have ever seen in my life. Hats off to both of you!

[@medicinemanboxing3222]

All I ever wanted to be, as a child, was a fighter pilot..a nasty propeller injury put that to bed, but this man is an absolute hero to me in his openness. I’m so glad that Lex had him on his podcast, it has helped encourage me in my pursuits. Thank you Mr. Graves, for being so honest on your life and thought process, as well as offering advice on how to move forward in this cold/calculated world, with such vast aspirations.

[@leo-unddieAnderen]

We suggest you all try ditching politics and make peace for yourselves. You are leaving uncountable lives in the hands of murderous fucking thugs and sociopaths and fucking lying thieving blood sucking liars called "politicians" . STOP BEING IDIOTS or they who you americans among others worship and bow to and are slaves to, the capitalists, will bring with their nuclear war everything you ever loved and knew burning into a pile of ash on the poisoned soil with the remains of all living beings. EVERYTHING YOU EVER KNEW.

[@Galvaxatron]

Ryan's interpretation of the meaning of life at the very end was a beautiful way to cap off this amazing conversation.

[@AECommonThread2137]

Vindicated! Today is July 26, 2023 - the long awaited congressional hearing after 70+ years! Heros: Fravor, Grusch, Graves, Burchett, those who attended congress today Joe Rogan, even Steven Greer for being a voice in the community - whether or not he is capitalizing on parts of the stories. Thanks for having Fravor and graves on.. I want to see my boy Grusch next!

[@ditallow1618]

What a good soul. He won me over when he said, we should not be excited to get into war.. the consciousness of a virtuous soul always sounds different. Thank you.

[@amule1154]

Excellent interview Lex. Ryan Graves is such an incredible and beautiful person. I was especially impressed with this conversation, the scope & depth. Thank you both so much for such a fascinating 2.5 hours.

[@deborahchesser7375]

Those pilots are some sharp fellows, not only in top physical and mental shape but very tactful and classy, I really admire them. 👍

[@spicyjalapeno]

Excellent guest. Articulate, full of information, to the point, intelligent. Great interview.

[@World_Analysis-]

Lt Graves is an amazing American. His work on UAP’s has pushed the topic into the halls of congress/Senate

[@lorishumate]

Thanks for such a thorough interview. All the background questions are helpful and interersting and shows what a credible witness Ryan Graves is. I am so thrilled that he is speaking out.

[@tommyk3707]

Loved this one, long time listener. As a guy who helps makes the Martin Baker ejector seat. So great to hear what my day to day work does for pilots. The best of us ☺️🙏

[@ranetterobinsonstrinz3468]

Incredible interview with an exceptionally incredible young man. Totally to be respected.

[@marshalllucero1919]

Up 7o80

[@ronaldpellet854]

Very well formatted questions. Well thought. Very philosophical. I totally enjoyed this. From both of you.

[@FlytheBIGones]

This was fascinating, Ryan Graves, what an honor. Such honesty, so enriching. Your IQ is off the charts. Very perplexing issues tackled like a fighter pilot.

[@prince_ofmadness]

This man ryan graves is a legend you lucky you got to interview him so interesting

[@nev29]

Enjoyed this! These Navy pilots are straight shooters. Graves, just like Fravor don't like to speculate unless asked. Highly intelligent, professional, logical thinkers and always humble. Lex, as always, superbly interviewed Graver and I'm always astounded in how much he's versed and knowledgeable in countless subject matters. Thanks for a superb podcast!

[@thehubrisoftheunivris2432]

I have listened to this several times and retain new information after every listen. Also, i recently learned that hypersonic flight actually changes the way the atmosphere reacts to the materials of the craft. And different altitudes have different composition and reaction/reaction sensitivities.

[@WanderfalkeAT]

You have an amazing way to treat your guests, Lex! I see you doing great Podcasts forever :) I think Joe is pretty proud of you!

[@blairh8394]

I was blown away by the wisdom within Ryan’s words. Thank you to you both! Amazing interview!

[@hsk2213]

Listened to this on Spotify but had to come drop a comment. This was one of the most engaging Podcast I’ve listened. Appreciate what you’re doing in this space Mate.

[@chadclark321]

Lex asks amazing questions. Ryan was amazing to listen to. Awesome pod

[@TheIgnoramus]

Watching this in prep for tomorrow lol

[@ABeautifulHeartBeat]

i knew i loved this guy in high school but he is bringing me to tears with his reasoning for becoming a pilot

[@delj3875]

You knew him in high school ?

[@ABeautifulHeartBeat]

@del j Narragansett regional high school. I've never met a more solid dude... now hearing everything he went through and how he articulates it... I have no doubt in my mind he and his team saw these UAPs.

[@KaySloan]

@@ABeautifulHeartBeat He comes across exactly as you describe him! Thanks

[@SwavSkis]

Guest is a charlatan!

[@ABeautifulHeartBeat]

@@SwavSkis nope

[@waynemyers2469]

Mr. Graves did something for me that no one individual has ever done before, he gave me a sense of peace and security and softened the general dread I feel when I think about both war and possible first-contact scenarios. The peace and security aspect came simply from his personal integrity and the knowledge that it's guys like him who are at the controls of the most powerful machines of war known to mankind. If politicians flew jets I'd be terrified all the time, every time a jet flew overhead because in my view politicians are, by nature, immoral, unethical, self-interested psychopaths whereas Mr. Graves is intelligent, moral, ethical, self-aware, compassionate and motivated to such a degree that I feel confident about his role and his actions when flying a plane and defending the nation. The further knowledge that foreign and even enemy pilots are generally cut from the same cloth acts as an additional reason to believe that in a time of war, with our lives in the balance, the men in the pilots seats have some sense of higher purpose and common decency and the right uses of the power available to them through technology. I know that there are limitations to their ability to operate in a completely moral manner because, well, orders are orders and things happen in an environment ruled by split-second reactions and incredible speeds but I believe that in the broader sense he and people like him are not eager to destroy or cause suffering or to dominate through the unbridled application of the power that resides at their fingertips. When considering first-contact I've always cringed at the thought of The Joint Chiefs Of Staff or the Department of Defense being responsible or most likely to be in charge of a first-contact scenario. Those old grey-haired battle-wagons have been too desensitized and motivated by the application of violence toward political and economic ends that I would never feel comfortable with their being allowed to create or manage a meeting with extra-terrestrial-intelligence's. What could men like that bring to the table other than being cognizant of and effective in the possible military components, advantages, mind-set and tactics that could present themselves in an encounter with an E.T.? Very little. I'd rather have, ideally, philosophers, scientists and humanitarians in charge of communicating and interacting with Aliens than the generals or politicians who inhabit the Pentagon. But in a pinch I'd feel relatively confident in men like Mr. Graves to conduct themselves in a manner most likely to instill confidence and a feeling of mutual good-will between themselves and an Alien intelligence. I even detected an unarticulated but possible willingness on the part of Mr. Graves to view the occupants and pilots of these hypothetical craft as, if not "equals", then at least similarly engaged individuals with skills and equipment to be admired and relatable characteristics that could exist among all "pilots". That was a very convoluted way of saying that there exists in men like Mr. Graves the instinct to strive for the best in themselves and, as an extension, to see the best in others as well. Being an unrepentant romantic I feel much more comfortable with the idea of men of integrity and compassion spearheading our introduction to beings from other worlds than a room full of pompous politicians and callous, aggressive generals and can even imagine ways in which a face-to-face encounter between the Lieutenant and an Alien pilot could turn out to be an occasion of great camaraderie, affection and celebration.

[@pj1909]

Comment far too long to read 😴

[@barriemurdock5376]

Only 26 min. Into this and it is a pure joy to listen to such an interview. I’ll enjoy the rest and wish you all good health and an interesting time on earth. 🚀 🌎

[@bivens3ify]

This is so cool. Even from as a child, I was always fascinated about jet fighters. And their capabilities.

[@La__Rat]

Lex is taking over Joe Rogan. Thank you so much for not moving to Spotify.

[@La__Rat]

@@somethingawesome9547 I am not comparing Lex to Rogan level. I am saying that Lex is filling the empty spot that Rogan left on youtube. Most of Lex guess had appeared on JRE. Dave Fravor, Elon Musk... to name a few.