Fighting DIRTY to avoid the ground | An MDS instructor's guide.

[@StripMallSensei]

For those asking about Cliff’s background he sent me this: “Fought at San Manuel reservation and morongo reservation between 94-95 5 fights 3-2. Like I said did it for beer money and sh*ts and giggles. Sport fighting training Folk wrestling Freestyle wrestling Greco Roman wrestling Kick boxing Boxing Very little Bjj I am predominantly a street fighter never had a referee to save me to speak of. Self defense training 10+ years Krav Maga hold multi black belts in several styles 10 years MDS Currently training libre knife fighting under Jarrad Arbuckle Currently training tactical fighting and shooting with Oliver Gruner from Gruner Tatical out of Vegas.”

[@thebaneking4787]

I was under Brian Stanley for MDS. I loved it but my health got worse.

[@ransakreject5221]

Training in sport makes u way way tougher. Wrestlers n boxers are enormously tougher than street fighters

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

@@ransakreject5221 Absolutely. Its the base. there is no net negative to being good at any, or all, of these styles. You will also be VASTLY more effective at applying any "dirty" techniques like the one sin this video.

[@ransakreject5221]

@@CthonicSoulChicken and who said you wouldn’t? I mean other than the nonense like the thigh knees from under mount. So I’m left to assume I’ll get zero proof of anything ?

[@MrDreatx]

@@ransakreject5221 All I can say is train a an MDS class, if you can. I have done it a few times. The way they market it is really weird so you're right to be skeptical but damn. When you get caught up in that bullshit you can't reset. I asked the instructor to let me try something with full resistance and to not hurt me too bad. I suffered a lot in that class. And I've trained with Craig Douglas, Cecil Burch, Tom Sotis some SPEAR and my general BJJ stuff. If you try it and agree to accept some pain, you’ll see how it works. Including some of that stuff you think would not.

[@paulhornbogen980]

This video is excellent. First, I love how he talks about the difference between a striker and a grappler in a real world situation. Pure excellent. Your guest is so spot on. Well done.

[@dposting2941]

Thank you for NOT being yet another Brazilian 69ing fanboy gaslighting to cope.

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!!

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

I think Bas Rutten has the best self defense videos bar none. They're all here on KZbin. I think his greatest pearl of wisdom is not to escalate a fight you're going to lose. I thought of this while watching this dude biting everyone. I promise you, if a guy bites me and he doesn't beat me in that fight, he WIL wake up in the hospital and he WILL be missing most of his teeth. That being said, if your life is in danger, its not a fight anymore--its combat. Do what you feel is best.

[@sovannahong6472]

Denga da denga da deng

[@anti_Hype_334]

Bas Rutten is a clown with an mma bias

[@JingShenKuoshu]

The biting stuff... uhhhh. I do think he has a number of good principles that would help untrained fighters leverage their abilities. The goal of Self Defense is disengagement rather than engagement. Most people cannot perform Bas Ruttens techniques and skill sets without years of training. He is a top shelf street fighter. This is not about that.

[@anti_Hype_334]

@@JingShenKuoshu indeed

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

@@JingShenKuoshu Actually watch the videos. "Bas Rutten lethal self defense" or something to that effect. This isn't "how to be a pro fighter." He has several floating around KZbin. They're hilarious and 100% realistic, and practical.

[@4nhk066]

i'm 30y.o. dude, i was growing in the balkans, been in some bloody fights throughout my youth, and i can confirm that headbutts are some of the most devistating hits a human can use. i've done 2 headbutts in total, and both of them stopped the fight INSTANTLY (one opponent with bumb above his eye, the other with bloody nose)

[@StripMallSensei]

Oh for sure! I was thinking about doing a whole episode on them.

[@MyZ001]

@@StripMallSensei do it! definitely do it!!

[@DamienNeverwinter]

I lived around Glasgow, its a tough town. I've seen huge guys knocked out by much smaller guys they were attacking using the old headbutt.

[@chrishayes5755]

@@StripMallSensei if you're mounted, and you bite someone, you realize you're opening the door to next level of brutality right?.. and you're in a very vulnerable position. some people will just take that pain or even tear their arm away. you might want to put a disclaimer about "fighting dirty" because once you go that level, if you lose, high chance you're ending up getting some very nasty treatment. really dumb advice. and your mount escape guy did zero to resist that. put a helmet on and do a real world mount escape with a guy actively resisting 100% and hitting you HARD.

[@swfblacksheep703]

I completed the Army combatives level 2. Long story short, it was practically a 3 week fight camp. In the end, the final thought was "martial arts are good, but ANY weapon is always better be it a rock, or a knife.

[@StripMallSensei]

Yeah… we didn’t film it but Cliff showed me ways to use a cell phone as a weapon. It was BADASS!

[@johnmarty2966]

For sure, I've always heard that the first rule of unarmed combat is to arm yourself.

[@StripMallSensei]

That’s a good quote actually!!!

[@zzzzBadBoyzzzz]

​@johnmarty2966 While you're trying to arm yourself, Cliff would have kicked you in the shin 3x and bitten a few of your your fingers off😂

[@tonyjones1560]

@@johnmarty2966”Invest” in a tactical ink pen. You can both write with it and go full John Wick on somebody if you have to, with little/no fear of it breaking…like a pencil?

[@Ezekiel-rv3pe]

Using the head to push with is a staple of wrestling.

[@StripMallSensei]

Pushing the forehead into the ear? Interesting. I’m not much of a wrestler or grappler so I’ll have to ask my guys about that. I’m also kind of new to this whole fight thing. lol.

[@UrbanDefenseSystems]

@@StripMallSensei I don't know why you're so incredulous. It's basic wrestling 101. I swear that all these McDojo nerds (not you necessarily just people in general) are going to loop all the way around to basic boxing and wrestling in their search for proven techniques lol.

[@bkup1332]

Yeah, pushing with the head is a basic wrestling technique. Not sure why he was suggesting using it against someone who knows how to tie up.

[@BeepBoop2221]

Yes this is a technique that uses head pressure to move center off mass. The problem i have with the headbut part, if youre wrestling a wrestler, hes been In this position for a long time. My solution to this was to learn wrestling. ​@@StripMallSensei

[@robmarsh918]

@@UrbanDefenseSystems And I don’t know why you’re incredulous that a person who says they are new to fighting, and has been learning it as a general approach of self-defense and not within a specialty (I.e. only focusing on wrestling) doesn’t know a basic wrestling tactic. Don’t be so condescending. If you expressed ignorance in my field of knowledge, I’m gonna explain it to you, not be like “How could you not know that?” He was even humble and appreciative in his response 🙄

[@Channels0v3rTim34Y0u]

I 1000% agree with you saying, "This is not a competition for points!" I learned the most from the shin kick, biting and keeping that distance! Very easy & painful enough maybe kill the aggressive threat. Because I don't have any combat training. Even if I did, protecting my self & family is all I really want. 👍🏾👍🏾

[@screentake01]

Thank you for sharing this info!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for watching!

[@MatthewSchenk-ki7xk]

Some nice details I hadn’t thought of before! Great job on the video!! This channel is getting better and better! Can’t wait for the next video!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!!

[@tomjames7889]

Thank you for posting this video. It's a great video with some no nonsense down and dirty tools I'll be adding to my tool bag.

[@StripMallSensei]

I greatly appreciate you watching. I have another video with cliff coming up! It will be my next upload.

[@Billybongbaxter]

The head butts!! Fantastic

[@StripMallSensei]

I know. I heard that Europeans use them more than haymakers.

[@studer6884]

​@@StripMallSensei the Danish Kiss according to Monstery.

[@PhilipAJones]

Glad to see more English language MDS content out here.

[@sickpuppy011]

Great.love it. Never had formal training so love this attitude

[@StripMallSensei]

Awesome! I would recommend a little formal training. it helps. You can start with something like Krav Maga.

[@TicTac-g7m]

This is an awesome vid. Real techniques to use. Dirty fighting.

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! I’m glad you liked it!!! What martial art do you train?

[@scarred10]

Its all completely useless unless you can already hit really hard and wrestle

[@johnygoode2239]

This cliff guy is good! I agree with his points I have the same grappling background.

[@StripMallSensei]

Cliff is the man!!! I’m glad you liked the video.

[@johnnewman3221]

please make a video on pressure points and self defense

[@StripMallSensei]

I’ll add it to my list!!

[@studer6884]

Look for the 1992 revision of US Army FM 21-150 Combatives. It has a great breakdown of vital targets and their likely effects, and it's public domain and free in PDF format. Techniques wise, I like the 1942 original, but the 1982 revision has a lot to recommend it.

[@simont.b.2660]

Quite nice! And it sure must have been a video that was fun to shoot too, thank you!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! It was fun!

[@วทีนาคะเกศ]

It widened my vision, thank

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for watching!

[@MackDavis-n5t]

Great video 📹

[@UrbanDefenseSystems]

Keep in mind people, what they ALWAYS fail to tell you... Is that if you can do these techniques to someone, they can also do them to you. And ask yourselves this... "Who is more likely to successfully execute a bite, an eye gouge, or striking tender parts of the body... the out of shape nerd who watched a few self-defense videos, or the trained grappler/striker with superior speed, strength, stamina, reflexes, durability, and positional control?" You'd be amazed how little percentage of hand-to-hand fights actually are to the death, it can happen but it's unlikely. When you start biting and eye gouging, you're escalating it to a whole new level, so you better be convinced the guy was trying to kill you from the start, that way there's nothing to lose when he starts returning the favor. Also, usually the person who initiates these tactics is in a losing position. Rarely would a guy with complete domination/control over his opponent resort to these tactics, they're usually from desperation. Meaning you're probably already way behind the curve as far as the fight is concerned.

[@EdBender]

Totally agree. Trained bjj for more than a decade. Fighting dirty doesn't work unless you already know how to fight.

[@StripMallSensei]

Yes. Knowing how to fight is a huge advantage.

[@nickramas9507]

Do we have some Armchair Violence fans here? I was about to write this too. 😂

[@anti_Hype_334]

@@EdBender 2 questions for you: 1) why did you waste a decade on something that takes 3 years tops to learn and be sufficiently proficient at and 2) knowing this, why should anyone take you seriously ...

[@kcwliew]

@@anti_Hype_334 ??? Who says it takes 3 years tops to learn? You? And please define 'sufficiently proficient?' Finally - given the lack of solid information in your comment, why should anyone take your questions seriously?

[@Hallucitania]

I'm loving your videos - non-sport fighting is like comedy gold to me so, thank you it makes my day. There's no need to be polite to assholes breaking your peace. Cheers!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! 🙏

[@danielyoung633]

This was a great video. I see a lot of discussion here about justification in terms of use of such techniques, and the "it better be life and death" speaking to motivation of parties involved. Sometimes there are things like size differential, actual sex, ability, intent, means, direct line of access, lack of escape, multiple assailants or drugstore handicap. Maybe you're sick when it happens, or you just wrapped up a 16 hour night shift. There is no way to level a playing field nicely and you may need to cheat to survive given the scale of relative vulnerability. I personally do this style of training, and recommend that everyone do the same. I get my students and training partners to spar to get used to handling the reality of opposition at least once a month to contextualize the techniques we practice.

[@StripMallSensei]

All good points! What specific style do you you teach?

[@danielyoung633]

@@StripMallSensei I teach togakure ryu lineage of ninjutsu. I differ pretty drastically from how it’s often taught in the name of practical application.

[@StripMallSensei]

That’s pretty cool. Where are you located?

[@danielyoung633]

@@StripMallSensei I’m in Calgary Alberta Canada

[@StripMallSensei]

Well if this channel takes off, maybe I should do a video at your school one day!

[@brettbarager9101]

Been in martial arts for 40 years . . . Different styles. My step son challenged me to go to the back yard to "see what ya got, old man." LOL I told him im too old for this so would have to end it fast! As soon as we squared off, I bit his arm. When he backed up, I tackled him and pinched and bit until he tapped out. Moral of the story: don't mess with the old bull. He knows stuff. "Strike Fast. Strike Hard" All is fair on the street.

[@StripMallSensei]

Amen! People really don’t expect it. Sometimes I bite now when I roll around on the mat in my Krav Maga class. 😂

[@p.o.3889]

Yes, this is a thing I've been thinking. Why not fight dirty? IIRC IcyMike (of course) has a video about groin strikes, where fighting dirty tends to invite dirty techniques from your opponent and things might escalate, but then there is the option of not surviving the fight, so you might as well deploy some dirty techniques.

[@StripMallSensei]

I definitely don’t want to question Mike. He is the GOAT! But! My thinking is… by the time you are throwing groin strikes, it means you are already in the fight. Your first tactic should be to de-escalate. Swallow your pride, and avoid a fight at all costs. If that doesn’t work… I’m throwing groin strikes all day.

[@p.o.3889]

@@StripMallSensei Yeah, I'm with you on this. Although I guess I need to verify if this was Mike or someone else.

[@StripMallSensei]

I am almost positive he said this about eye gouges, actually.

[@p.o.3889]

@@StripMallSensei It was Armchair Violence's Fighting Dirty Doesn't Work. Mike is just a synonym for dirty fighting, I guess.

[@StripMallSensei]

Oh yeah! I don’t think Armchair would like this video lol. But I like getting different perspectives.

[@giugiu3447]

Spot on, I remember doing similar things in the UK in the 80s-90s and early 2000s. The highest I ever managed to even kick someone was a front snap kick in the stomach, only because he was 6ft 5 inches and I'm 5ft 8 inches. But he's an excellent instructor

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for watching!!!!!

[@giugiu3447]

I think it's great stuff that works for real. I used to try and defuse a situation with words, body language, or simply trick. I didn't like to hit unless I had no choice. I used to believe that you could do more damage to someone, with silence, smile, and with my eyes of come on, showing the wild side with a few simple words. I was nothing special, I just hid my wild side and let a little bit of it out. It was better that way ready in a ready stance

[@StripMallSensei]

Yeah and a lot of times you can talk done a belligerent person if you’re patient enough. I am actually considering doing a video on this, focusing on techniques from the book “How to win friends and influence people.”

[@studer6884]

​@StripMallSensei the YT self defense community needs more de-escalation videos, please do!

[@tobysyoutubechannel420]

Please make a video involving the crazed maniac scenario. I love the content!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! I really want to but Cliff is hesitant because that scenario does not end well for one of the parties involved. It’s super violent, and he was concerned about putting that kind of information out there. 😬 Also it may not be KZbin friendly.

[@studer6884]

​@@StripMallSensei the bad guys already know that stuff. It's like locksmith or computer security. The threats already know, so there's little downside to teaching the good guys.

[@StripMallSensei]

I am definitely taking it into consideration. I appreciate this kind of feedback. I want to start like a group where subscribers can make requests.

[@SanSooRayRay]

I was fortunate enough to meet Coach Cliff & his staff in person last Wed in his academy. I would really enjoy training with Coach Cliff and his staff, but unfortunately I live in St George UT 🤷🥺 Next time I'm in the IE I will definitely stop by and train here, so if ya live in the IE give Coach Cliff a try, falou galera 🤙👊

[@AsBusiness-jm1rb]

This coach is top notch

[@StripMallSensei]

He is legit!

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

As a former bouncer/door man. I can tell you when the heat is on, the adrenalines kicking and its fight or flight, people don't feel or react the same. You bite someone in that mode, and they're more likely to take the injury from the bite and really hurt you.

[@StripMallSensei]

I definitely appreciate your feedback as a former bouncer. The bites don't always work if they are your only focus, but can be used to put you into a better situation to do something else. We talked a little bit about this in our recent podcast episode.

[@robmarsh918]

That’s part of assessing the situation and your opponent though. If someone is intoxicated and just in a frenzy, then pain compliance isn’t the way to go. You’ll have to immobilize them with submission or injuring them. Also, if you noticed, he used biting as a way to create an opening. When someone is biting you, it’s instinctual to focus on their head. So you can start punching when expose themselves like he demonstrated.

[@Arythmnmaker1]

You might also consider checking out my friend Mr. Jerry Peterson. Jerry Peterson is the developer of the Special Combat Aggressive Reactionary System (SCARS), a military martial arts program that was taught to US Navy Seals in the 1980s and 1990s. Peterson served two tours in the US Army 173rd Airborne Brigade during the Vietnam War, and developed SCARS after his service

[@StripMallSensei]

I should definitely look into him! Do you know him personally?

[@Arythmnmaker1]

@@StripMallSensei Hello, Yes, I knew him from the kung- Fu school we trained at under Grandmaster Mr. Jimmy H.Woo many years ago. Best regards, Mike

[@StripMallSensei]

That’s awesome. Eventually I will need to venture out of my little pocket in California and find some other fight trainers to train with.

[@HardHardMaster]

​@@Arythmnmaker1Kung Fu school... Bullshido acronym... I'm out.

[@jimreadey4837]

This is SOOO good! I don't want to learn sport (competition) fighting. I'm 66, and that doesn't interest me anymore. I just want to be able to defend myself if it ever comes to that.

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much. These techniques are definitely great if you are not an experienced fighter. I still would recommend training a sport version too. Taking a BJJ class and learning fundamentals is a good way to enhance these moves. And you don’t have to train it super hard. Go at your own pace.

[@jimreadey4837]

@@StripMallSensei I try not to play the age card... but I will pull it out, this time. When you get to my age, you may better understand the greater concern of injury for older folks. It's not unwarranted. Things don't heal nearly as quickly, or completely. And down time for seniors can be downright debilitating. (There are all sorts of statistics about how quickly an older person will go downhill, and die, after a fall -- not directly from the broken bones, but from the sedentary lifestyle that follows. And this doesn't even get into the other stuff one can catch rolling around on a sweaty mat with others -- bjj's dark, unspoken secret.)

[@StripMallSensei]

I completely understand. I was never an athletic person so me even studying martial arts was a stretch for me personally. You could always find a good Krav Maga studio as well. One that puts safety in training first.

[@PozitivMC]

Grapplers and bjj people in the commets are mad about this video, cuz it shows that in a street fight their techniques are not so effective. No judges, no rules, I like this.

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! I have a video with Cliff coming up about how using an arm drag dirty and effectively can win 90% of fights.

[@PozitivMC]

​@@StripMallSensei you are doing an important work. We live in a dangerous world and everyone must know how to avoid a conflict, and also how to defend if it has already started.😎👍 I've been teaching self-defence based on japanese ju-jutsu for 18 years and I want to say that one the most diffucult and argueble moment is a defence against a knife attacker. Some people say that there is no defence against knife and others try to practice some techniques. All such techniques work well in theory and on demostrations, but in real tests against an agressive opponent who tries to stab and cut you as much as possible (with training knife), everything just doesn't work. I like what Cliff is teaching, but it would be super interesting if you asked him about defence against a knife. More than that, if you would be able to make a test, where Cliff showed his anti-knife techniques on a real attacker (with training knife, helmets and other training stuff ofc), it might be very popular and phenomenal video. Also want to add that most of the trainers and coaches demostrate their defence techniques against a knife with their own students, and such demostrations look like they are staged. So if Cliff would agree to show his defense skills against a knife, the best way to do this is with volunteers (just ordinary strong people) who agreed to take part in such test. And then no one will be able to say something like "hey, this is cool, but he shows it with his students, and they give in to him and don't really resist". Thank you again for what you are doing, I hope you will achieve new successes in what you are striving for.

[@maxsonja6608]

Umm I am going to tell you, I’ve trained in all this stuff for years before I learned bjj, and I will tell you none of it works like you think it’s going to against a serious bjj player, you can bite, and eye gouge great. A bjj player can do it better and that’s even if you have time before they slam you to the ground. People who do BJJ are not offended they just know the truth.

[@CliffOdette]

@@maxsonja6608quick question for you. When is the last time you saw a well trained bjj practitioner out there starting fights? For that matter when is the last time you saw any well trained pick any martial arts (insert here) out there picking street fights? The whole basis of this story point for this video is what to do if someone try’s to start a treat fight with you. Of course a well trained fighter takes different tactics. That’s a video for a different time. Respect of course

[@Joe-s9k2f]

😂😂…hold on, one at a time

[@That_IT_Trainer]

4:26 hands up is the fence shown by Geoff Thompson in I believe the begin 90s. Look him up

[@fmaschool_vids]

Cliff Odette is legit, a beast of a man and a brother through and through. Great video

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! Cliff is super cool. I want to do another video with him.

[@fmaschool_vids]

@@StripMallSensei you should

[@StripMallSensei]

Is there a topic that would interest you for my next video with him?

[@ransakreject5221]

Can I get a link to his fights? Even his fight record. He doesn’t show up on databases

[@StripMallSensei]

They were all underground fights in the 90s. There’s some more information about him in the pinned comment at the top.

[@andrewalexander1086]

Love this guy , nearest we have of this in uk 🇬🇧 is urban combative with the great Lee Morrison and his instructors especially the one in the Netherlands

[@StripMallSensei]

He is a really cool dude!

[@scarred10]

Lee would laugh at this clown,he isnt credible.

[@Artbooksandboro]

Geoff Thompson as well. I did boxing from a young age, my dad was a boxer and then a boxing coach so I was always around boxing from a young age. When I was in my late teen I joined a Thai boxing club which also did urban combatives and found it really interesting (and painful). A lot of it was mentally conditioning for extreme violence and extreme situations so you don't freeze(fight or flight and controlling the adrenaline dump). My issue is I don't like fighting or hurting people and even in my teens and early 20s if I could avoid fighting I would and would rather walk away or calm things down, when I have had to defend myself as a last resort I had knock out power in both hands but I always felt guilty after fighting as I don't enjoy hurting people and when I have had to get physical in the past I mentally beat myself up about it for days or weeks after and how I could of avoided it and then it effected my mental health. I'm 40 now and luckily not had a fight since I was about 23 and hopefully I never get put in a position again where I need to get physically violent.

[@andrewalexander1086]

@@scarred10 no he won’t Lee said he was one of his mentors you clown

[@christianpior2847]

Really helpful vid & comments also revealed other excellent pro's & cons

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much!

[@TTAG01]

Really well done! Very funny, entertaining and practical. No bs here in what’s being suggested. Would certainly work! 👍🏾

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you sooooo much for watching!!!

[@SidneyPeterson-cv6vi]

Great video!!

[@StripMallSensei]

I appreciate you watching both videos!

[@davescheffler3383]

Great video! Thank you!!!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for watching!!!!!!!

[@FilmsteadMedia]

Fighting dirty doesn't exist. Bravado matches aren't fighting... Excellent video!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you 🙏!!!!

[@bigpanik3261]

this is the first fighting guy on youtube that makes sense. I grew up with a guy who was a 2nd degree black belt at age 12 and was winning competitions...but also he was a major street fighter. Later in life, he is now black belt in over a dozen styles, he owns and runs a gracie dojo. And when i asked him about best style for street fights he said..mui thai, boxing and krav maga. He said if you go to the ground in a street fight...you already lost the fight, so no reason to learn bjj.

[@StripMallSensei]

I’m glad you enjoyed it! New video with him coming out on Sunday. BJJ can teach you a lot of important things. But it’s important to remember that in the street the other person will not be playing by those say rules. Cliff told me that if you’re going against a boxer, play the opposite game. Grapple them. And vise versa.

[@hcwbw3]

Before any BJJ or ABCDEFG fighters try even thinking about grappling, think, there are no rules on the street. That means anything can and will come into play. It can be a Sharp or a Dull pain but it might be hard to recover from either. Even if you think you are winning it can take a 360 turn when you see red stuff pumping out of you, in, or like a heart beat, cause if you do see that and sometimes even if you don't (internal bleeding) you may not realize it but the clock is ticking for you to go bye bye. The only fight your are guaranteed not to loose (which is to say win) is the one you avoid.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

I've been doing jiu-Jitsu for 7 years now and I can tell you that yes for maybe a good portion of the public this will work but there are big portion And most usually the ones that are more aggressive and the type to fight that have a very high almost unbelievable pain tolerance.... And when fighting those type of people you'll have to get them in a secure position or one where you can break them or pass them out biting them is not going to make a damn difference😂

[@StripMallSensei]

True. Nothing is 100%. I really liked his perspective though. It really got me to think outside of the box. I would love to have a BJJ guy on one day who can give me some more insight into this. I would love to see the other point of view on this.

[@mattr999]

Yes, not to mention, it's always forgotten that the guy on top can bite as well.

[@StripMallSensei]

That’s true too

[@eddard9442]

Yeah, I agree, biting will just enrage a determined attacker.

[@StripMallSensei]

From what I learned from Cliff… Biting is just one component it’s just to get the person to think about something else so you can make your next move. But yeah, I would assume it wouldn’t enrage the other person. lol

[@_GOD_HAND_]

Bro this channel is great. The journey of a doughy wimp who wants to learn to fight is a solid concept. But what happens in 3 years when you actually become tough and athletic?

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you. This is the funniest comment ever. Now… for the truth. I have actually been training Krav Maga for 3 years. I am a green belt. lol. I was never an athletic man, I was always an artist/comedian.. I must say… I was a lot weaker 3 years ago. However, I have a lot of room for improvement.

[@JohnRoberts-uq6hn]

Sprinting is the best thing to work on 😅 ❤

[@StripMallSensei]

ALWAYS!

[@studer6884]

Running is not always an option. Sometimes your awareness fails and your first indicator of trouble is being attacked. Running only works if you can shake the pursuit.

[@ayoung1]

Many of these techniques are in the experienced boxer’s tool bag; headbutts, eye gouges, biting, head control, forearm on the neck. Lots of dirty stuff used in infighting.

[@StripMallSensei]

Did you get a chance to watch the dirty boxing video I did with Cliff?

[@ayoung1]

@@StripMallSensei No, but i plan to.

[@jpistheguyjesusloves8234]

I am a jiu-jitsu white belt ( still white belt at over 1 year!) - I came out of TKD and I had to ( un) learn to stop using kicks , knee strikes, punches, and elbows in BJJ rolling while on my way in or when I was being rushed/attacked- Unfortunately, BJJ seriously downplays how well someone from a kicking martial art can hit you very hard several times before a BJJ guy can even touch them- we used to measure how far our jump kicks were needless to say the mid level and upward belts have no problem, kicking somebody from across the room and sending that person flying then landing and kicking again and then going into punching that’s when the BJJ person can start their fighting However I confess in TKD I didn’t even know how to get out of the headlock! Hey seriously y’all put God first then family/ relationships etc to do any sports / hobbies a person needs priorities and boundaries also a real fight for your life ( or your family’s) better include all the stuff you can’t do at the dojo such as landing elbows to the face as you hit the ground on top of the attacker, neck and eye strikes, breaking fingers, head butts, using a chair or a heavy mug as a weapon even biting and use the power of your voice/ scream for police etc.

[@StripMallSensei]

Bro I can relate.… I can’t just box when we spar in class. I’m trash! I need those kicks to set things up. 😂

[@RobertoBren]

If it isn't dirty, it isn't fighting. Only tornaments have rules. Good video.👍🥋

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!!

[@dancemusicfan2010]

Super good!!!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!! 🙏

[@peterbrennan393]

great techniques here

[@StripMallSensei]

Glad you like them! Cliff will be in the next video!!

[@neilbeech4093]

Thanks for your information

[@StripMallSensei]

You are very welcome! Thank you for watching!

[@khalilswid8429]

This is survival mechanism and I like it coz it’s simple and it’s working

[@StripMallSensei]

Training is important. This is focused on course motor skills vs fine motor skills.

[@TheREALMuad-dib]

Most of the street fights I was in in metro Detroit were 100% about who was willing to be dirtier than the other fighter. Most of real defensive fighting is finding ways to open the other persons body, I like using the environment.

[@StripMallSensei]

Dang!!!

[@dposting2941]

FACTS. Also, what percent had backup/accomplices/friends jump in once you went to ground (IF u ever went to ground, that is)? I've been jumped 5 times by CRIMINAL ASSAILANTS OUT TO MUG, not ego battles, and 100% were more than a lone, solo attacker. 100% the BJJ fanboy cult always likes to post vids of ego battle chest puffing type "street" fights, but in Chicago it's LIFE OR DEATH not ego-based, and ALWAYS more than 1 when it's a true street jumping. So what percent would YOU say of non-bar, ACTUAL self DEFENCE situations do they have more than 1 mugger?

[@TheREALMuad-dib]

@@dposting2941 yeah, that's spot on I'd say. Would YOU go into a potentially dangerous situation alone? Would you let your homie? Neither would they. That's why there a bunch of them when they know they're about to do something any reasonable person SHOULD hurt them for doing. Life does not care about the social construct and rules you think keep you safe. You are the only thing that can make you safe, and even that little bit of safety is an illusion.

[@Idk-xi1tr]

@@dposting2941 dude in those scenarios no martial art would be guaranteed to help you anyway. Thats why people gather up in gangs or carry in places like that. When training martial arts or combat sports your protected from the usual douchebag who thinks he's tough and wants to beat people up, he'd think twice before messing with you and you'd kick his ass if he tried. But the scenario youre talking about is a different thing

[@Idk-xi1tr]

@@dposting2941 people have the misconception that martial arts or self defense should make you invincible but that simply isnt true, its just an extra layer of protection and safety you'll have

[@SanSooRayRay]

I would like to train with Coach Cliff since because it's reality base street fighting 👊👍 Next time I'm in the Riverside area I definitely stop by to get my training on, Oss falou galera 👍👊

[@lynedwards8575]

Great works mainly if you attach in a frenzy no gaps. Don’t allow time to think just give constant pain with continual movement. It’s surprising how many pain areas are not used in martial arts.

[@StripMallSensei]

I’m learning there are a lot more pain points than I thought.

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

"You're cuddling them too rough" 🤣😆🤣

[@StripMallSensei]

😂

[@pendragonfilm]

The shredder works really well on the ground

[@GoWandererGo]

Excellent moves.

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!

[@andrewfleming5170]

No need to see his background creds. Tough smart fighter. Healthy, older....still big. There is hope for me! 54 and training again! TY

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! We did a podcast together if you wanted to learn more about him. What have you been training btw?

[@andrewfleming5170]

@@StripMallSensei everything. walking up hills, lifting rocks i find. love it. outside.

[@studer6884]

​@andrewfleming517 0 TBK Fitness Program?

[@xAnononAx]

I was on the receiver side of a headbutt and can confirm. Not fun. Not sure if my nose broke but I got a slight bump on it now.

[@StripMallSensei]

Yeah! Does not sound fun!!!

[@michaelcorvin79]

Cliff is a beast and MDS is legit. Thanks for promoting

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for watching!

[@Toxicgamerdog]

how would you know

[@SilkDogFilms]

@@ToxicgamerdogI believe he trains with Cliff.

[@michaelcorvin79]

@@Toxicgamerdog @SilkDogFilms I’ve driven from West LA out to Cliff’s school in Riverside on multiple occasions to train MDS and I’ve been training the last year and a half or so with another MDS instructor mentored under Cliff, Russell Reynolds out of MDS Ventura County/Los Angeles. I hate hate hate being in a car and wouldn’t deal with LA traffic if it wasn’t worth the effort. Definitely try out a MDS class or attend a seminar if there’s one in your area. Most of the old MDS demo videos on KZbin highlight the flashy stuff and don’t offer a ton of context. My favorite thing about MDS is how it’s constantly evolving and refining itself through the founder, Fred Mastro, and the community. This emphasis on results over legacy is rare in my opinion. Anyway, I’m starting to sound like a paid ad and that’s not my intent. I just hadn’t realized the comments section of this video had gotten so interesting and I wanted to chime in. I’ve been practicing martial arts (at a non-competitive level) my whole life, followed by self defense as I’ve gotten older and slower. MDS is what finally made it all click.

[@hifta7]

This shin kick is painful AF!! Came after half decade as a kickboxer to a self defense school and got kicked there! Its a little secret that can neutralize a better skillful opponent

[@StripMallSensei]

I have started incorporating them more in my self defense training!!!

[@TorqueMaester]

Great video but the effects of adrenaline before and after should be discussed in street situations. Why is my leg shaking? Why does this feel like slow motion etc? Why don`t I feel good after?

[@Yahsom]

Yeah, that leg shaking shit is a nuisance

[@UCGz8hv81ZQM6y4sSEWkQtAw]

Just subscribed. Keep up the good work!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the content!!!

[@NoBody-xx6ii]

Great stuff

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!! I

[@derricksooEOAdvocate]

I’ve been fighting this way since 1968. I grew up in the roughest part of Oakland. This was normal Street fighting. I call it “East Oakland Fight Rules”. There are NO-Rules, anything goes. Nothing is too rough!

[@bkup1332]

Nice video, just I'm a bit hesitant to bite on account of blood borne pathogens.

[@StripMallSensei]

Not a crazy thing to worry about honestly! 😂 but sometimes you gotta make sacrifices.

[@bkup1332]

@@StripMallSensei agreed. Just, when I was a bouncer, that was my biggest worry. Maybe I'm just afraid of blood and stuff... still. 🤪

[@StripMallSensei]

I do not blame you!!!!!

[@almaximus03]

Oh my gosh!…. Subscribed!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@cldavis33]

I've always had a self defense angle since I was traveling and on the streets for work a lot going back to hotel. Day one I was always asking, what is illegal in MMA, boxing? Wrestling? Those are great moves in a real dangerous fight. None of this surprises me, even the biting. Well, the shin kicks did a little LMAO.

[@StripMallSensei]

The shin kicks surprised me a little bit too! 😂

[@AnIdiotOnline]

You have an interesting approach towards these videos, I think you might have found your niche, stick with it

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you! And by “niche” do you mean “self defense” in general, or dirty fighting tactics?

[@AnIdiotOnline]

@@StripMallSensei self defense videos, it's hard to describe. The kinda silly antics that make light of stuff I can see people enjoying. But also I can see some people perhaps feeling like you're not taking it serious enough. It's a strange one, but I think your editing, format and style meld well enough

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much!

[@AnIdiotOnline]

@@StripMallSensei no worries mate, keep doing what you enjoy. I wish you all the best with it!

[@ultimatedeathmetal]

If you never had streetfights, and if you don't have this killer instinct, you don't know what is coming at you. You can train your ass off, you'll never win.

[@StripMallSensei]

It’s true… you may be a killer on the mat but a lot of the same people freeze up in real life.

[@julesgardet659]

Thanks for the confirmation, no rules, go nasty, dirty ... And leave quickly, your family needs you.

[@StripMallSensei]

Well… first rule… avoid a fight at all costs.

[@Jourmahagen]

the forehead to the ear is really eye opening

[@StripMallSensei]

I felt the same way! Some commentators told me I was silly for pointing it out. They say it’s a standard wrestling move.

[@Jourmahagen]

@@StripMallSensei well a thing for most wrestling is the fact that they wear eat protection so seems like a weird thing to bring up

[@douglasduggerton]

Shoes on the mat is crazy work

[@lindltailor]

Because you on the street you go barefoot

[@zzzzBadBoyzzzz]

At age 15 I moved from a small town, to my own apartment on Main St, Brockton Massachusetts. Due to my up bringing, and religious values; I was a polite well mannered teen. I didn't look and or act anything like a tough guy... also, I have a bad knee, so couldn't run from trouble...lol. So got into many brawls, and had to deal with many very serious situations: braws with motor cycle "club" members, dealt with knife wielding, and broken bottle wielding maniacs; by the age of 17 I had numerous bar room brawls, gun situations, street fights, and everything in between. All my situations were with people that were older and much larger than I, and they "all" learned the hard way: Don't judge a book by it's cover.

[@StripMallSensei]

That’s very true. I try to always be respectful because you never know.

[@tonyjones1560]

Wow! My own situation was similar but not nearly as extreme. My dad was a career Air Force sergeant. When he retired, we moved to his home town: Baltimore, Maryland. Imagine this: you’re in the 3rd grade, you’re the smallest boy in the class, you’re a fluent German speaker, you have a deep “Darth Vader” voice, a “cut it with a big knife” accent AND you’re black. I’m 61 years old and I remember having to introduce myself to the class as the “new kid” like it happened yesterday. Stares, laughter and one kid yelling, “How come you talk like Dracula?” I was nearly in high school before the bullies finally got the message: that 4-eyed nerd bast*rd will go for broke. It just isn’t worth it. When the first John Wick movie came out, I laughed about royalty payments: “I was stabbing dudes with pencils when I was 12. 1974.” That said, I hope you’re living the best life ever. I know all too well what a personality twister it can be, to be constantly exposed to other people’s BS just for being in range and looking “easy.”

[@christopherowen1776]

I remember bro, you could defuse any fight with your lips. They used to call you the vacuum, because there was nothing you wouldn't suck - bikers, firemen, knife wielding black panther gang members... you could pacify any man there and then. I'm glad we never crossed paths (I'm not gay)

[@joejones9520]

how have i made it to 58 somehow never being attacked or having to fight anybody?

[@catocall7323]

@@joejones9520 luck

[@jean-francoislebroch9171]

Brilliant

[@StripMallSensei]

THANK YOU!

[@mizukarate]

I do a lot of this stuff. Interesting.

[@StripMallSensei]

What move do you do the most?

[@mizukarate]

@@StripMallSensei palms up

[@StripMallSensei]

@mizukarate yeah I try to remember to keep my hands above my belt!

[@mizukarate]

@@StripMallSensei 😆....anyway lots of good concepts in this video like hands 👐 palm up and shin kicks. However I am a big fan of palms up because it appears nonthreatening and gives you options. However it also looks better for you legally.

[@StripMallSensei]

Absolutely!

[@PauloAbreu]

Looks painfully effective! Ouch! 😀

[@StripMallSensei]

It can be! 😂

[@robertoleo3337]

lf we are on the ground, l am on top (03.40)and he bites me like in the video my first reaction would not be pulling but the opposite, push strongly forward and even putting my weight on. This would cause severe pain and maybe crushing teeth and jaw. Biting is not a static self defense technique - it causes strong swift reaction. This is my personal view~

[@StripMallSensei]

Not a bad idea. That’s a great street smart solution. However, I think I needed to emphasize more, that bitting is temporary. You only want to distract your opponent briefly to open up the next move.

[@veximmortalis8622]

What a legend

[@StripMallSensei]

He’s a cool guy!

[@Steveo_00700]

Not so sure if the shin kick method works when a person's defense is against a skilled striker with full bor adrenaline coming at you. This happened to me once. I was the attacker. The guy I fought had it coming. I didn't realize how bloodied shins were until after the fight. During the fight, I never felt anything. The next day I did.

[@StripMallSensei]

Correct. It’s not always going to work. It is merely one tool in the box.

[@robmarsh918]

Well, in this video, he clearly was using the shin kick before the fight elevated - he used it as a deterrent for the opponent, not as part of the actual confrontation. So if you shin kick someone who is intoxicated or raged up and they don’t react, you change tactics. I’ve noticed a lot of people in the comments keep pointing out moves in isolation and criticizing its effectiveness in certain situations. But that’s not self defense. It’s about assessing and reacting, using the right technique in the right moment.

[@Steveo_00700]

@@robmarsh918 , Absolutely 👍

[@slappybagOG]

I believe that statistic about ground fighting is actually taken from the American police force and isn't actually reflective of any street combat situations where someone isn't being apprehended for arrest and restraint.

[@StripMallSensei]

yes. you are correct.

[@JTCoinRings]

Great video

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you so much!

[@hamadalrowaie6882]

😮 amazing !!

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!!

[@pontefit4447]

The pressure point is OP, I broke my arm as a teenager so I didn’t wanted to get into a full escalated confrontation, so I’ll try to cause as much pain as possible violating those pressure points, and the I stictive reaction of everyone is to stop the pain, it freaks them out ahaha

[@StripMallSensei]

Thats the thinking here. What does OP mean btw?

[@johnandrewserranogarcia7223]

@@StripMallSensei In this case by OP he meant overpowered.

[@mb2776]

To be more specific, mds is based upon serak silat and some other self defense moves. That's no wonder since fred mastro learned serak for a long time.

[@StripMallSensei]

True!

[@mb2776]

@@StripMallSensei tbh, it was mds and the youtube videos of fred mastro which spark my interest in viable self defense in the first place! Mds isn't trained in my region so I looked up silat. Currently I'm doing pencak silat (my style has a huge foundation in serak) for some time now and I'm super happy with my choice of martial art, the training and with my trainer :) In an essence, all thx due fred mastro!

[@BeepBoop2221]

Im only a bjj white belt but i notifed a few things. That double elbow strike is something another a system uses, i didnt like it, you have to bring your elbows above your head, it relies on pain, why not use escapes we know work? Why dont we see it used in MMA?🎉. Second his ground escapes didnt look that good? He didnt remove either post when he bridge and rolled?

[@StripMallSensei]

We may have just done sloppy technique on the trapping of the leg. It was the last thing we shot. Good eye though. The elbow to the thigh is something you see in MMA though.

[@honkler1443]

You should absolutely go for Brazilian "krav maga caveira" it is the best self defense course of all times

[@StripMallSensei]

After seeing your profile picture, I thought you were joking, but I googled it, and it’s real! lol. Tell me about that fight system.

[@honkler1443]

@@StripMallSensei It is a completely new aproach to traditional krav maga but using the best techniques of all martial arts, his founder is a really great fighter overall, he uses real statistics about crime and violence in Brazil to adapt for the best use possible. The krav maga caveira system uses many safety protocols, talking style and distance management, it has this saying that "if you can't no longer control the distance you need to strike first because you're now in danger" after analizing tons of hours of footage, he concluded that 96% of the street fights barehanded are punchs to the face and nothing more and there is a whole psicological study about it. The system is like MMA but they practice strikes to the balls, eyes and throat and they spar with knives as well so that all students have a clue of how violent and crazy it is in real life. They also have this blackroom for more hardcore students where they put those party lights and start a brawl with multiple people in a closed space with chairs and tables, the point is to get as little damage as possible but this is ultra hardcore and not everyone is willing to do it. I am a brazilian guy and I've been doing martial arts since I was a kid competitively and never stoped, but after seing krav maga caveira I've learned a whole new aproach to self defense, it is amazing to be honest. It is hard for me to tell you everything but I think this text might get you some clue about it. they are really complete in all metrics, they try to mix all the atributes of a "urban survivor" since Brazil is a very dangerous place for some, so they have, traditional sparring, self defense sparring, practicing simulations of real life danger encounters, dealing with robbers, knife atacks, escaping, protecting your family, they do phisical training as well, it is like MMA focused on a really amazing set of protocols for self defense. One of the greatest aspects of it is that he considers how the adrenaline and stress affect your cognitive habilities, how it affects your coordenation and overall thinking and for that reason he ALWAYS say that the art should be as simple as possible, nothing that require a hardset of skills since in high stress situations you'll never act the way you think you will. Also the biting stuff doesn't work, he already tried it, in real life it is more likely that you'll get your teeth destroyed in the process or your neck stabed in the process or get punched as soon as you do it, not realistic, fights are violent and biting doesn't work in real life situations.

[@honkler1443]

@@StripMallSensei Also take a look at his shorts if you can, it has a lot of examples, his longer vids are more like breakdown of real violent footage www.youtube.com/@kravmagacaveira/shorts

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you for sharing this I will look into it.

[@johnnewman3221]

your laugh is a win for your channel, you have an incredible laugh, he is attacking you and you laugh it out. lol

[@StripMallSensei]

Thank you!!! I try to keep it light. 😂

[@johnnewman3221]

@@StripMallSensei thank you and the master for the video, excellent technique

[@whipivy]

Did he actually use biting in these underground fights on the res? Whilst I was still in the army I participated in an exchange program with a U.S. ally at the time and it covered "dirty fighting". This advice contradicts what I learned which was proven in combat operations. Biting is not very effective, because our teeth are not long enough to cause a sufficient amount of damage to severely maim. However, it can interrupt breathing but it requires ignoring his first piece of advice which is to keep distance. That's actually the opposite of what we were taught. You want to close and get under their arms and if biting is a possibility it would be used on the nose or throat. If the nose, you want to breath out while doing so to force blood into the windpipe as they scream, which they will as the nose is being removed. This interferes with breathing and from that point on focused attacks on joints, eyes (rupturing or removing) etc. come into play. Now some will likely say, "that will get you sent to prison" and I would agree, it certainly escalates. Biting someone while they have use of an arm, will get your eyes pulled out of your head. And elbows to the thighs, if that were really effective, it would be used in MMA because it's legal. Yet, haven't seen anyone do that. Attacks like this, as well as blading on pressure points and arteries is only effective for a split second, you have to immediately transition to something else way more painful and effective. My experience, the opponent doesn't have to be impervious to pain to make this useless, it's useless on anyone who is concerned of losing the advantage because of a possible flesh wound and by giving up that advantage they will get destroyed with even more pain. So no, you'll bite off a good chunk of skin from their arm, and then with the massive adrenaline boost you just gave them, they will pummel and elbow your head to pieces. A simple test, ignore the bit about keeping distance and kicking them in the shins (instead of the knee) and toying with them, and just bearhug them and refuse to let go. See how long you can hang onto them. It's very difficult to get someone off you once they've locked the grip behind you and at that distance all of your limbs are useless.

[@StripMallSensei]

I’ll have to ask him

[@LAG3]

I have practiced Western Combatives for years. Martial Arts is what you do with somebody. Combatives is what you do to somebody. I won't ego fight with anyone. Things can go bad so fast. Most of it is Mindset. It takes practice to respond with bad intent. Everything goes out the window when the 300 lb Shrek is hitting you with gloves on, grabbing you and tossing you around. Think evil. I enjoyed this. He knows what he's doing.

[@OllyVD]

Great stuff 💯

[@StripMallSensei]

Thanks 💯

[@martinmuzoc]

good stuff

[@StripMallSensei]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

[@jchannel8583]

More nonsense from a "self defense" guru. If you don't want to be tied up, you will have to use BOXING to control distance and put shots on target from your range, if you do get tied up you will have to use WRESTLING to break the tie and get back to distance. If you want to headbut someone in a fight you will have to use BOXING to safely close distance and then USE WRESTLING to tie up with them in order to be close enough to utilize a head butt. All the biting elbowing the thighs to get out of mount is also nonsense. As painful as a bite can be, it will usually be superficial damage, nothing that will deter a determined combatant. If you are mounted in a fight, you will have to use WRESTLING/JUIJITSU to reverse or advance position. Boxing, kickboxing, muy thai, jiujitu, wrestling, and physical conditioning are THE FUNDAMENTALS of no holds barred, limited rules, or no rules fighting. Biting, head butting, scratching, eye gouging are just some extras that you can throw into the mix to get real nasty. If you want to get good at defending yourself unarmed, you have to learn how to fight, there is no short cut, or work around.

[@ShabakNo4Q7]

Cliff didn't say only bite him. The bite was used to get the opponent to react and then he used wrestling. Obviously, BJJ would work there too. That much should have been crystal clear to you writing like a specialist. Listen to your pontifications about a short video clip as if Cliff doesn't teach what you wrote about or better yet, as if he isn't highly accomplished in teaching what you wrote about. Why do people like you always, always talk smack like you wrote the book on anything? jchannel, you write as if you have all the answers. Nobody does. Every situation is fluid and different. What you call nonsense is a distraction to transition. How could you not know that with all of your experience? You do have experience, do you not? I never heard him say just bite him and everything will be fine or just rely on a bite. Never in the video did he say just elbow a thigh and presto, you're out. Again, these are little distractions which are not practiced in bjj or wrestling because they are against the rules, as you know. How many head butts have you thrown jchannel? Head butts are used in street fights all across Europe on the regular. They work. They aren't usually used by themselves but they work just fine. You didn't mention karate which tells me you are probably an MMA fighter and only know what you know. So why jump on here like you know more than what you know?

[@markjrich1]

The video is a bit corny, but great content!

[@StripMallSensei]

Hahaha oh yeah! I’m a huge cornball. Thank you for sticking it out and watching the video though!!

[@awakenow7147]

Its a fun alternative to the bare-bones self defense videos that permeate KZbin.

[@josephmeador1529]

Had a bully try to punk me at a warehouse job. I was 5'7' and 140 Lbs and he was 6'3' 200+ pounds. One round kick to the knee was all it took. After that, just acting like I was gonna throw a kick at him sent him scurrying the other way.

[@StripMallSensei]

Haha awesome! Yeah when it comes to big guys, their knees is a weakness!

[@jpt7955]

"It's like you're cuddling him too rough." If I ever get tied up in a fighting situation, I want the other guy to quit because I wasn't cuddling him gently enough.

[@StripMallSensei]

Hahahaha FACTS!!!!

[@marcofurio8071]

nice

[@StripMallSensei]

Thanks so much!!

[@paulcarey9248]

Like it. Like Paul Newman, Rules in a knife fight!

[@StripMallSensei]

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid.

[@TheKryptokat]

So if you don't want someone wrestle you - train wresting until you are better then the person trying to wrestle you and also fight dirty. It's an unquestionably effective strategy but talk about burying the lede.

[@StripMallSensei]

Very true.