Fighting Game Developers Are Cowards

[@206lbs.hercules5]

I thought this was a really good, well thought out video, but then I realized your a Slayer player and I am obligated to disagree with what you said.

[@HQRubbish]

You got me there.

[@gfxb3177]

*you're

[@Athorment]

Namco: "Sorry sweetie. You are 23. You are too old now. But hey! Rest assured that a 17 year old will take your spot!" Capcom: "7 feet vampire lady mom in Resident Evil" Fans: "I know which one I'm supporting!" :D

[@Release_the_Bees]

The way you feel about Nagoriuki in relation to Slayer is how I feel about Nagoriuki in relation to A.B.A. I feel your pain.

[@HQRubbish]

Our shared suffering 🤝

[@metalgeartrusty]

i have a friend who mained ABA in +R and we are playing strive he goes "man i hope ABA comes into strive". i hated to be the one who had to tell him, "nago has characteristics like aba, arc sys will focus on characters other than aba."

[@epicmarko1125]

​@@metalgeartrustyyeah about that

[@metalgeartrusty]

@@epicmarko1125 YEA LOL, it actually got him to try the game a bit. but he is one of THOSE. you know, the ppl that are mad strive changed the guilty gear formula and lessened everyone's command lists. its like the people who were mad when call of duty went to space for all those years, its cool for lots of ppl, but not why older people bought into the franchise in the first place. needless to say, he hasnt played it since. was still a good laugh when it happened tho

[@terrabull1639]

Although I understand your point about Nagoryuki, I had an alternative way of looking at his existence as a character. When I saw that he had similar animations and characteristics with Slayer, it made me think that maybe all vampires within this universe share these mannerisms. These things that we associated only with Slayer may in fact not be unique to him alone. It could be a reflection of real life where groups of people who belong to a culture exhibit similar behaviour not just in their speech but also though body language and movement. TBH I'm also biased as he is the coolest looking character in the game to me (until Venom, Bedman, A.B.A. or Zappa return). I hope this made sense and thanks to whoever reads this. I did enjoy the video.

[@soratheorangejuicemascot5809]

I want an old lady character in fighting game

[@megazerox_gaming]

There are in Power instinct matrimelee

[@Demonstormlord]

Interestingly, since you mentioned Killer Instinct, the game actually does vary female characters a bit more than your (very good) example with Aria. Riptor, the dinosaur, is female, and Hisako is a J-horror ghost. There's an argument about Hisako still being kind of conventionally attractive, but I can't think of another modern game that does female monster characters (imported Darkstalkers characters in MvC don't really count).

[@HQRubbish]

I agree, KI does way better than its competitors in this regard.

[@felixmartinez1100]

... Wait, Riptor Is a female?

[@zackswitch9656]

Hisako is hot asf, but still cool

[@Eggroll3s]

I like how you changed this video's thumbnail to have Marisa despite her not existing when this video came out lol

[@filippocorzani3898]

Why is marisa the image for this video, wich is 2 years old and sf6 just released

[@cammyshill3099]

I don't think that horny designs necessarily all come out from the desire of catching the coomer playerbase and playing on the audience's desires, I think a lot of times it's the artists and designers themselves that like those designs and would make them regardless of whether they sell or not. I know there's a story on the guy who designed Chun-Li just about that. That they sell and the suits like it definitely encourages the trend greatly, but even if they didn't I find that artists and designers are an inherently horny bunch that always tries to get stuff to pass under the radar. With that said, I agree that more diversity in women's designs would be great and that Tekken situation with it is pretty unfortunate (although, I like Master Raven's design a lot). I'm a Street Fighter player and when it comes to Street Fighter female designs I think they handle things a little better overall, although while still being on the eyecandy side of things (that, I'm going to be honest, I really like and would hate if it changed). One thing I like in Street Fighter women is that Capcom was never afraid of giving them some good muscle definition, which I really like in SFV's Cammy and Poison. And now they're also coming out with Marisa in VI, who's looking very good and is definitely a nice change (and one that surprisingly sees a lot of people still being horny for her even if her design isn't, let's say, conventionally feminine).

[@mysmallnoman]

" i want more diversity for female characters " Translation : I want female characters to stop being as conveniently attractive as possible because I'm a snowflake prude

[@cammyshill3099]

@@mysmallnoman Some people definitely interpret it that way, and some people just want some different designs next to the traditional waifus.

[@mysmallnoman]

@@cammyshill3099 because they're snowflakes prudes

[@kingorion88]

Awesome as ever. Came for the topic, stayed for the production value.

[@HQRubbish]

Much appreciated!

[@freyzerb.castro9124]

18:45 same I don't know why it's so easy to fall in love with fighting game characters, I felt kinda bad when I changed from Nu-13 to Lambda-11 in CF, something about reeplacing Nu after using her since Calamity Trigger felt wrong lol

[@abdullahdurrani1807]

I really relate to the situation you pointed out with Setsuka, as a kid I was intimidated by all the just frames in SCIV. Seeing her return to SCVI got me motivated to learn all those high execution moves, but ultimately was disappointed to see her difficulty being dumbed down :/

[@HQRubbish]

Always a bummer when you feel a bit tricked.

[@Tony-oh]

That's the whole point of SC6 it was also designed to be more approachable to newcomers. While she has non JF moves and simple inputs added. She's still holds the highest execution in the franchise. Not too mention that there are penalties for using her simple inputs as well as rewards for performing her JFs. They simply lowered the skill floor to the character while not messing with her skill ceiling.

[@michtir8113]

@@Tony-oh learning just frames just feels pointless when you can spam easy combos and do like 5 damage less. There are some hitconfirms incredibly difficult to perform but hey, there's 3B+K! Why learning them and risking to messing upin game when i can just mash buttons? They messed with the skill ceiling because something like 6A+B is just too broken to not be abused. You can see players like Whoaaz abusing it at every -14 move the opponent throws When the most mechanically demanding character is sophitia you should ask yourself a couple of questions about how much that game has been dumbed down

[@Leadblast]

But you still bought the Setsuka DLC, didn't you? I bet your "disappointment" wasn't real enough for you to make Bamco regret changing her.

[@michtir8113]

@@Leadblast Yeah I bought it, I was hyped and I bought it before knowing that she would have been dumbed down so much. My bad But I can tell you that Bamco lost a player that not only will never bought s3, but that right now is not even playing the game at all.

[@tedjomuljono3052]

how can a video from 2020 have a thumbnail of a character whose looks only got shown somewhere around mid 2022 via leaks, and at the end of 2022 officially?

[@HQRubbish]

I have a time machine.

[@kingmonke4111]

I was asking that too

[@Mr_Tux794]

I thought this was gonna be a new video seeing that thumbnail

[@svierrodcuppycake3655]

I pour a ridiculous amount of time into filling notebooks with theoretical fighting game design, and I've worked on about 65 characters over 6 different imaginary fighting games, though 2 of those games are collabs with a friend, so I can't take 100% credit for those, and those are also mostly responsible for deviating from my usual standard design setting. I love female characters, and I also love "freak show" characters (e.g. non-humanoid body shapes like giant snakes or dinosaurs, or even just really weird fashion and characterization like GG Strive's take on Faust). Lightspeed cross section of my female characters, to embarrass the tunnel vision of standard fighting game design: Carrie is a psychic, undead ghoul with half her face burned off and a chunk of rebar impaled through her skull who fights like Zato by telekinetically puppeteering a titanic skeletal snake. Ada is cryogenically frozen in a stasis pod embedded into a big fuck-off mech that she sleep pilots, very much like GG's Bedman. A.J. is like, 6'3" and built like a truck, and wears power armor on top of that. Elaine is a corpse that was Frankenstein'd back together, who consistently breaks the rules of having a skeleton because she no longer feels pain and overextends the shit out of all her moves because she feels no need to hold back, ever. Violet is a soulless avatar of destruction on the level of "terrifying force of nature", taking the form of a barely humanoid iron chimera kind of thing, full of molten metal and perpetually trailed by plumes of fire. Bethany struts into combat wearing a half clown, half '80s glam wrestling outfit. Maud is intentionally bland in her fashion; she looks like a librarian. Kopukok is a humanoid worm kinda thing, and mostly an eldritch abomination who flexes her immortality by ripping her body apart and mutating into all kinds of body horror nonsense. The intentionally unnamed changeling queen is also a big humanoid bug with four arms, reverse articulated legs (knees bend the wrong way), and big ol' bug wings on her back. Shoguset is normally a kaiju who shrinks down to "just" 12 feet tall to fit into the fight, and she's a giant worm with a human head and bug legs. That's all just from one game. On top of that, there's El Presidente, who's in her late 30s and is very directly inspired by Potemkin, including her proportions (side note, in all 6 games, the role of "huge, impossibly tanky grappler" is played by a female). Katrina's a melee-type space marine archetype, who wears impractical sexy power armor as a way of shit talking her opponent; it's tied into the same kind of thing as her left arm being amputated above the elbow, and she doesn't bring her prosthetic because "I live out "Monster Hunter: This One's In Space" as my job. I can, and WILL kick your ass with one arm". She's also built kind of heavy, because power armor and a huge fuck-off plasma club inspired by Splatoon's Dynamo Roller are really fucking heavy. Ka'zok is an undead witch whose arms were cut off post-mortem in an attempt to prevent her from spellcasting if she ever came back, and knowing only dark magics, she can't restore her arms. But she CAN magically mutate her tongue into a huge, freaky whip to act as a substitute arm in desperation. That's still not all of them. This isn't hard. Designers explore this space all the time with male characters. There's nothing about being soulless and evil, or inhuman anatomy, that is incompatible with being female. Hell, there's nothing about being a buff-ass muscle head, or fat, or old, or ugly that's incompatible with being female. These are just traits that would be obstacles to getting huge sales numbers if you were gonna put the characters onto a sexy swimsuit calendar. It kills me that male characters are often allowed to be freaks, but female characters are almost always tunnel-vision'd into being swimsuit models.

[@HQRubbish]

Elaine sounds like an interesting kind of character. I like the idea of a character that does weird thing with the human body- but not because of the body itself being special.

[@oyoyoyo7624]

Imaging the moves and animations of some of your characters is fun!

[@DestinySpider]

You made art for any of those? Sounds really cool

[@JagoShogun]

you sound like you like fetishizing women into freakshows lol

[@Astigos]

I like that you updated the thumbnail with Marisa. Would love to hear your takes on SNKs female cast sonce I think they do it best, but still may fail a silhouette test. They do have some older women characters in KOF15, vanessa and luong come to mind.

[@osiahene]

The only middle-aged woman character I can think of is Mitsuko from Bloody Roar, and we never got to see her after the original game. Bloody Roar also replaced the androgynous Fox with Jenny. My favorite character redesigns are Chun-Li and Cammy from Street Fighter Alpha.

[@richardjohnson8991]

I love that you chose SF6 Marisa for the thumbnail because yeah that's exactly why I want to play her when the game drops next week. She turns nearly every expected attribute from your female fighting game character on its head. She is a big burly woman not here to be an object of your sexual desires, but to break you over her knee and demand your respect. Female characters in fighting games somehow always fit into a slim but THICC and not too old, not too muscular archetype of visual presentation....or they're children (but the lore says she's 5000 years old) and I'm squinting at you really hard questioning why you love them sooooooooo much. Often relegated to being glass cannon/highly mixup focused but fragile characters, I'm always glad to see when a game subverts the traditional archetype for something more explorative and interesting.

[@blaccpanther8715]

You know, this is actually pretty damming, just the lengths they are willing to go justify the same female character design. To think that Raven is being commanded by some millennial, Nina and Anna are cryogenically frozen, characters like Ling staying in high school since T3 and you rightly mentioned that even the damn robot looks like an underage girl unlike say, Frost from MK11 even. The thing is, in popular culture there are some interesting female fighter archetypes to take inspiration from....what about an mma physique like a Cris Cyborg/Amanda Nunes? and then in film you have old female masters like Jade Fox in crouching tiger hidden dragon? you also have amazon warriors in a lot of fiction and indeed history such as the Dahomey Amazons of West Africa who were the inspiration for the female soldiers in the black panther comics? The only new female character who is actually interesting is Zafina to be quite frank.

[@PawsOfFate]

This made me remember how I felt, and actually still _kind of_ feel, when I played Hwoarang in Tekken 3 for the first time after putting so much time into Baek in Tekken 2. Despite the fact that Hwoarang was clearly an upgrade and better character than Baek... I just couldn't get into the guy. I wound up playing my secondary from Tekken 2, Yoshimitsu, in Tekken 3 instead and just dabbled with Hwoarang instead of using him "seriously". I actually never touched Tekken 7 but if I ever do I think I would finally sit down and give Hwoarang a legit go and grind it out a bit to finally learn how to play him properly. Yoshi will always be sick in my eyes though, that dude is wild.

[@greatestgamer00]

no you not wrong. female characters in fighter are pretty wack and have paste personality. theirs a reason i really only use the girls in persona. a series that actually focuses on the characters character.

[@Azure029]

3 years later this is still the case with tekken 8, every woman basically has the exact same under-30 year old hourglass figure crap

[@shajita]

Four months later, Lidia announced for Tekken 8, her face looks almost exactly like Ninas. It's soooo tiring seeing how Tekken is getting nowhere on this while SF6 is absolutely killing it.

[@nathanprohaska8635]

Good perspective my man

[@erddontknow]

How the hell did you foresee SF6 Marisa

[@rgg1009]

I believe they changed the thumbnail after Marisa came out

[@Leadblast]

"Calling King a furry" Ok, I'm sold. Here's the thumbs up

[@RhythmLP]

Thanks for keeping the conversation about female fighting game characters going because every time anyone brings this conversation up, they get downvoted into the ground.

[@THENIGHTMAREINC]

Did you change the thumbnail recently. I know there's no way Marisa was announced 2 years ago

[@HQRubbish]

🤠

[@Wiziliz]

Feel a little clickbaited, hardly talking about general character identity, more talking about body types in Tekken (made it halfway until I got bored, could be wrong).

[@HQRubbish]

I suppose you will never know the truth, forever cursed to walk through the valley of uncertainty. Never knowing what could have been, eternally a lost soul.

[@Wiziliz]

@@HQRubbish I feel like "Female Body Types in Tekken," would have been a better title but ah well.

[@HQRubbish]

@@Wiziliz Perhaps there are other things discussed in the video.

[@Wiziliz]

@@HQRubbish Possibly, the start led me to think the video wouldn't be talking about character identity that much though, it's not as if the creator was wrapping up the topic he was on when I was halfway through, which wasn't what the title implied I'd be seeing, so I'm not sure. Half of the video being unrelated to the topic of the title feels clickbaity to me, so I didn't bother with the rest of his video.

[@HQRubbish]

@@Wiziliz As is your prerogative.

[@KnjazNazrath]

I've always wanted a fighting game to have an old lady that's kinda like Chin. Like a babushka w/ a ladle or smth. That'd be great. EDIT: as someone who's seen Nago as a Johnny replacement, it's interesting to see someone mention the Slayer parallels as well.

[@funkuro]

Johnny replacement? I get 5k but that’s about it (and being really cool, I guess)

[@KnjazNazrath]

@@funkuro I just mean they've stuck in "looong swooord guuuuuy!" and might not bother w/ Johnny.

[@xxigeorge]

I NEVER thought about the fact that Master Raven looks visibly younger than the original Raven wow. Also, I'm willing to bet that they stopped revealing character ages in 7 (it's not just Josie, it's the rest of the new people, sans Lidia, whose age is revealed as part of her backstory) to make sure that they wouldn't have to worry about their females ever aging

[@colinheilman1326]

Anyone who mains Sean in SF3 is a real G.

[@takeOnlyGreatness]

Absolutely adore that you replaced the thumbnail with Marisa, adore that

[@laxdemon13]

Great stuff as usual. Thank you.

[@nameputhpong9041]

Raven isn’t a “might-be-based-on” wesley snipes. Raven IS wesley snipes. And in his Blade role.

[@HQRubbish]

Always felt more Demo man to me

[@orlanzo2621]

@@HQRubbishI always saw him as Blade’s aesthetic with Simon Phoenix’s hairstyle lol.

[@metalgeartrusty]

What was the outro song? loved it

[@felipecarballodraw5278]

It's more about japanese culture xD where woman over its 25's are seeing like just mother potential and nothing else

[@mysmallnoman]

It's not a Japanese culture, it's called people being smart because they actually cater to their audience

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

Now that's funny cuz I had the opposite thought about Nagoriyuki. I was like thinking this was the Nightless fighting style. Commands dashes and they're Immortal so when they lose they just lay there, kinda frustrated.

[@ajshiro3957]

t would be nice to see older female characters in fighting games. the closest we got is Vannessa and Luong from King of fighters. what's that? they're... 30 something? Really now. It is weird that they won't bother to have an older female character. Nobody in their 40s. guys can be i their 40s and 50s and be fine... Kazuya. But a female character? Nope! I can understand why Kazumi is a young woman. I mean, she died young. But Why not older Kunimitsu? Why not have Anna and Nina actually look like their in their 40s or 50s.

[@oyoyoyo7624]

I got into fighting games in 2018. My then gf & I visited a friend’s house & Tekken 7 was being played on a huge television mounted on the wall. That group of friends was made up of mostly trans women, gay men. It seemed like an unspoken rule that all of us exclusively played each other with *only* women characters, passing around the controllers and the weed, switching between T7 and Tag Tournament2 (to *really* customize how the gorls’ hairstyles & clothes lol). It was a small gang of hood (and hood-adjacent) trans women and banji boys listening to ratchet ass trap music lol. The best player in that group never hid that Tekken was her favorite fighter because it reflected her hand-to-hand combat power fantasy that helped her deal with real life. That’s why she frowned upon me using Alisa: less grounded in reality. She wore a shirt that read I HATE CIS PEOPLE and she meant that shit.

[@neurotelepath]

why did you change the thumbnail on a two year old video to a character who's been revealed for like a month lol

[@mikeg4490]

you mentioned Slayers animations being copy and pasted but you forgot to mention tekken and soul calibur borrow a lot of animations from each other.

[@EBPygmy]

Ironic, because they finally added a visually aged woman as the final DLC in Tekken 7

[@Elite12Pivot]

She isnt aged at all. Even the letter she received from heihachi talks about how young she is.

[@KrieGor27]

@@Elite12Pivot She is 29 which is insanely old for a female character by Tekken standard. The age average for female characters was less than 20 before her inclusion (not counting Eliza obviously). More than 10 years below male average. It must have been excruciating for Namco to release such an old lady. We need to savor these small steps. I'm looking forward to a women in her late 30's in Tekken 11.

[@shajita]

I’m glad someone finally fucking said it.

[@mysmallnoman]

Said what

[@bogeyt15games55]

“The tallest fuckin guy in the planet” killed me

[@dmisk2010]

I mained roger and baek hows that for shit out of luck , thats what you get for not following trends , Yea i dont get it, if i can add baek to my copy of tekken at home why cant the devs just give the loyalists there damn characters , what do i care that they gave hwoarang some of baeks moves hes still not half the man baek was , just cause the loudest people online dont like one character doesnt mean nobody else does everyone iv seen bag on baek doesnt know how to play him prolerly , instead of looking at how many people played a character from a previous title they should look at how many hours the people that did play that char put in id have well over 50, 000 hours with baek if you included my t6 and tag 2 playtime and i havent played tag 2 since t7 dropped yet i remember all the tech , I planned on competing when t7 was released , so much for that . every new season has cut me deep , wondering if hes coming back only to find out its some new character that people only care about if there tournament viable , even then nobody cares about them who really gives a fuck about fahkumram or leroy unless they like spamming gimmicks before people figure out how to defend against it ? I seriously feel like flying to japan grabbing harrada in a headlock walking him to the studio and giving him wet willys untill he has the team put in wang for wang loyalists roger , alex and everyone else that got buried for the people who feel exactly how i do

[@HQRubbish]

That's a lot of hours.

[@karlthomson9245]

Thank you for articulating a point that I've had swirl in my head but never coalesce into an actual opinion. The reason I cannot play Katarina is the whole "I'm hot and kinda slutty with my exposed thong" design makes me actively hate her. She might be amazing to play, I will never know. I think Josie looks foolish too. Also Gigas I simply cannot take seriously as a character, I hate everything about him and am rejoicing in the fact that he will disappear for T8. Lucky Chloe, on the flipside, I adore because her appearance plays in with her character, and her moveset is ridiculous - so it all melds well together. I'm one of those people who cannot play (refuses to) play a character who I think looks dumb or lame. It's why I was attacted to Haohmaru, Iori Yagami, Vanessa, Ralf, Law, Paul, etc as a kid - they look _badass_ and do cool shit. Same reason I grew up idolising Geese and Kazuya as these characters who are almost peerless in badassery that they require complex inputs to pilot correctly, which my then teenage (and current adult) brain simply cannot do. I'm not cool enough to do a raging storm, and that's OK. If figthting games are an expression of ones self made manifest, I want to be able to lose in my local while playing a character who I like and enjoy. There is nobility in that. Going 0-2 in the bracket with the 'top tier' (and you play them because they're S tier or whatever) is just embarrassing.

[@FailWhaleGamer]

Good video. Some good insight and very enjoyable to watch. I am not a master critic or anything but if I had fo pick on something it'd probably be the pacing. There were times that were kind of awkward which isn't actually bad -- I think if you dont tidy up the awkwardness, you shpuld feed into it and make things more awkward. Im just kinda throwing shit at the wall here. Thanks for the time you put into the vid :)

[@punishedwhispers1218]

People loved Lidia in Tekken, the mildly muscular middle aged woman, I understand probably the point is that you're kinda against the waifuism but...*if developers realized they could make strong/chubby girls and it would sell, you would get a lot more of them*. There was a proposed Tekken character concept which was going to be Ganryu's Daugther; Ganmi-Chan, which does scream the age problem, but if she was a heavy sumo gal, not only is that just *good unique character design*, people would eat it up. These devs really could have their cake and eat it too on this front, many people find the unconventional to be attractive, see Mei and Zarrya from Overwatch for example, or RE 8's villain. Even Street Fighter, theres at least a considerable differentce between Chun Li and Rainbow Mika in terms of body type, they understand that fighting game dudebros...probably dig the fighter chicks to be *fighters*.

[@mysmallnoman]

Yes, because they're smart and not snowflakes prudes

[@firebreak2009]

Isn't the robot chick model after some ones daughter or someone like that

[@Darth_Bateman]

….You discovered your muscle girl kink through SF6, didn’t you? -_-

[@HQRubbish]

This video is two years old, so you do the math on that.

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@HQRubbish math? I can’t even read. What’s math?

[@zerobatsu]

Wow prescient thumbnail for a 2 year old video.

[@HQRubbish]

The timelines converge in mysterious ways

[@mikeg4490]

I think the sad fact you forgot to mention is ppl tend to enjoy products more when attractive ppl are advertising them. Bob and Ganryu are good characters but nobody plays them because of their off putting appearances. Bob was popular in T6 only because of how broken he was. I have a question for y'all, I see ppl have a problem with young attractive women in fighting games but can fighting games have attractive milfs? Lol

[@HQRubbish]

If Bob and Ganryu and- insert any number of "unattractive" male characters get to return game after game. Then why isn't the female side of the roster allowed even a minute amount of the same leeway? On the topic of "still attractive but X or Y" characters being added, I'm quite sure I bring it up in the video. While I don't necessarily think that is a solution at least that would bring a small amount of visual differentiation to that part of fighting game rosters.

[@mikeg4490]

@@HQRubbish the same leeway as of being unattractive or returning game after game? Julia and Anna returned for T7 and Zafina came back after T6. Ganryu has only been in mainline T2,5,6 and 7 and Bob 6-7

[@HQRubbish]

I am responding to your stated view on the reality of popular characters being attractive, e.g. Sex sells or whatever. If we assume that this is the case, then we are still left with the question of why only male characters are allowed to be unattractive and unpopular? They not only get to exhibit those qualities, they get to do it with little to no change- game after game.

[@altanurag4641]

I agree. On everything.

[@HQRubbish]

A-are.. we the same person??

[@sirchris6047]

TORNAAAAAADDDDDDDOOOO

[@HeirofDacia]

"The male gaze" is bullshit, since women also like looking at pretty women.

[@oyoyoyo7624]

Imagine being an adult that believed this to be true😂

[@partymantis3421]

The male gaze is real AND women like looking pretty, both are true, neither negates the other .

[@HeirofDacia]

@@partymantis3421 Do lesbians also have the "male gaze"?

[@partymantis3421]

@@HeirofDacia its ultimately a fairly vague term, but if we are talking about the overfocus on womens atractiveness in media that results in overshadowing their actual character in media . id say yes, lesbians & anyone else atracted to women have "the male gaze"

[@mysmallnoman]

@@partymantis3421 male gaze is a real thing but it doesn't overshadow their Character Believe me, if you have a female character that's badly written it doesn't matter how attractive she looks like

[@leosharman8630]

Disgusting.

[@HQRubbish]

Damn Leo, you don't mince words do you?

[@ayaya173]

What are you 😂

[@zackswitch9656]

remember, dont blame the developers blame the ones in charge

[@mysmallnoman]

There's nothing to blame because there's nothing wrong that's happening

[@IronicCliche]

Panda is female and she doesn't fit the standard female body type. Also, Leo

[@AzazelTheMisanthrope]

How DARE you presume that Gigas is male! I'm not sure even it knows what it is! Is it really fair to refer to robotic characters as being male or female? I'm sure the point still stands even without those examples, but that kinda seems like straw grasping to me.

[@HQRubbish]

Gigas is referred to as male by the game itself, pretty sure it is also heavily hinted towards him being Kats dad. Either way it is hardly a stretch to say that Gigas and Jack are heavily male coded while Alisa is female coded.

[@AzazelTheMisanthrope]

I don't even remember writing this comment but I'm p sure I was being facetious.

[@JagoShogun]

Being ugly, tall, disfigured, is PART of being a man. I'm not letting the ladies have this one trait I'm proud of. Stay pretty, stay ladylike.

[@Ming1975]

Yup, I found TEKKEN girls are bland and look like the same pretty girl, that's why I like the Street Figther and Guilty Gear girls designs.

[@mysmallnoman]

As if the men look any different

[@Ming1975]

@@mysmallnoman ... Now that you mentioned it. Yeah, ever since after TK3.

[@mysmallnoman]

@@Ming1975 this video is garbage I don't blame you

[@idioticeskimoe5149]

That Ryu line didn't age well

[@mysmallnoman]

This garbage video as a whole didn't age well

[@epicmarko1125]

​@@mysmallnomanever since sf6 came out it aged like fine wine stop lying to urself incel

[@cabaio1732]

Thank you, you put into words while i find female videogames characters boring. So little diversity and all just to appease the male gaze

[@mysmallnoman]

And that's a bad thing because ? It appeals to the target audience and the target audience are men

[@jimdino77]

Idk bro… Alisa is made to look like Dr. B’s daughter. That makes her design a bit more interesting than being a robot ass robot. Tekken could make a fat black chick to replace Bob, but that would be lazy.

[@HQRubbish]

And what specifically about her being Dr.Bs daughter hinders her from having been fat, super built, really tall or very short? That's a copout.

[@strippinheat]

It's a Japanese thing. While it does happen in Western games a lot, in Japan, where it's VERY conservative and misogynic, they have the "Christmas cake" stereotype "Because nobody wants a Christmas cake after the 25th [birthday]." Power Instinct for the win, though.

[@mysmallnoman]

Sir, this isn't Twitter

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

Idk how making female characters sexy is misogynistic, especially infighting games where everyone is built like an unrealistic tank The general “sexy bad!” Attitude the left has is as obnoxious as seeing threads of 4chan where a female character’s design is judged on how sexy it is and how good it is

[@MrPuch82]

No, fighting game developers like to make money and, as generations of marketing experts will tell you, "sex sells". You can get away with outlandish and ugly designs, if you are THE fighting game franchise on the market (and even then, 80% of them are fetish bait or conventionally attractive anyway). Not so much, if you are either a smaller studio that is one flop away from bankruptcy. Oh, and let's not forget that the vast majority of male characters are also freakishly attractive and display a ridiculously difficult to achieve physique.

[@thestorythief]

Listen, don't know your pronouns, don't know your deal, but you're real pretty, handsome, etc. That's all.

[@mysmallnoman]

" female characters all basically have the same body type and are attractive and young and Feminine " I like how you conveniently ignore the fact that male Characters are also extremely masculine and muscular or rarely fat, even when they're not human Just say that attractive women offend you and move on

[@HQRubbish]

I like how you conveniently ignore the fact that this is covered in the video. Just say you didn't watch it all and move on.

[@mysmallnoman]

@@HQRubbish " just sAY yOu diDn't WAtcH it AnD mOvE On!! " Cool counter argument bro And ofc you won't tell us what point in the video you covered my point

[@mariocraft3067]

@@mysmallnoman I just watched the video, so here you go. 13:24

[@mysmallnoman]

​@@mariocraft3067he says it but he literally doesn't provide any examples lol, he just shows silhouettes Maybe because it's actually true that the majority of male Characters are mascular lol

[@ShinRyuuji]

Not a very good video essay argument. Your entire video is waffling, and crying that women aren't older and portrayed as young female fighters. Get used to it or make your own game if you are that bothered by it