Fighting Games For An Empty Wallet

[@LeonMassey]

If anyone's wondering why I didn't mention tough love arena, since it's currently in beta and ONLY available on a browser I'd want to wait for it to release in a finished format, potentially with its own executable before putting it in the spotlight. Chances are I'd want to do a full video on TLA instead of it being a footnote in a video that's much lower effort

[@SkyBungis]

It's also available on mobile! Making it easily the best free mobile fighting game.

[@Aaron9101112]

I get you.

[@agusgomez7284]

So why didn't you wait for Rising Thunder to have a finished release instead of reviewing its beta? The company is now owned by Riot Games and they're planning on releasing the full game in the near future.

[@LeonMassey]

@@agusgomez7284 Rising thunder and project L are two different games, Rising thunder is abandon ware, in that it's in as finished a state that it's ever going to be. Project L, whilst made by the same development team, is not related to rising thunder outside of the people that made it.

[@RudyBlackman]

Well can you talk about how baby Bonnie hood is the best introduction to charge characters

[@Naxtor72]

"Fantasy Strike is the simplest fighting game you can play without DIVEKICKING into the alternative category"

[@RadikAlice]

That single line had me expecting Divekick the entire time

[@ragnarokhead19000]

While the character also dive kicks on screen. *chef’s kiss*

[@Majinken]

The best fighting game for an empty wallet is assaulting strangers in the ASDA parking lot and taking their cash

[@notme-ji5uo]

but how am i supposed to do air combos in real life?

[@uristmccheeselove1019]

@@notme-ji5uo Buy a gun, zoning is OP

[@SaiKisaragi]

@@uristmccheeselove1019 Fullscreen unblockable, does about 80% - 100%, fucking bullshit

[@kevinpeixes3735]

@@SaiKisaragi METERLESS

[@hoosierdaddy3789]

@@kevinpeixes3735 And is an anti air

[@PunkDuck]

0:52 Please God no, I can only handle one of them

[@bujinfujin9668]

If you upload FGC content I will summon hordes to sub to ur channel

[@aeneaswilliams6121]

Woah if punk duck starts uploading FGC content I would literally watch every video

[@DefyingZero]

Wait a sec... Your that voice pack from Paladins!

[@CarlMakesVideos]

Fighting Game Shammy, the barely-legally-distinct clone of Avery.

[@toto_feather8732]

FGC content coming soon? I'd dig it

[@dd-iy7jw]

thanks for representing the slow reaction time gang.

[@The4stro]

that part of the video went to punch me straight in my head, and i didn't react soon enough to dodge it

[@keo_bas]

Dunno If i can agree with the poor reaction. Many people make the mistake that good player are reacting when actuality some of those scenarios were reads ( aka predicting). This is true even in guess heavy game like Ki and DoA

[@nottobay6768]

@@keo_bas yah, but if you don't know what your looking for to prioritize because your new even vaguely normal reaction times with will leave you feeling like you have the reactions of a sloth.

[@keo_bas]

@@nottobay6768 That means player need to simplify the mental stack by first knowing learning the opponent character and function so folks can narrow down what they need to look for. Realistically your not going to defend against most stuff and have counterplay at the ready. The next best thing is to minimize damage by letting yourself be exposed to low-risk options like taking the throw or letting yourself get a guard crush. One of the reasons the phrase "TAKE THE THROW" is so prevalent because in most game throws are the least damaging thing your opponent can do as opposed to being open up, getting shimmy/ frame traped.

[@hem9483]

“Owl PNG away from identity theft” oh yeah, that’s who you remind me of

[@Moayad56]

Who?

[@StarShadow9009]

I'm curious

[@ameliorata4931]

@@StarShadow9009 It's a guy on youtube named Shammy, I think.

[@suspecthalo]

@@ameliorata4931 yup, that’s the guy

[@danielwappner1035]

@@ameliorata4931 He's Similar to Leon in a way?

[@ryann8348]

As a Killer Instinct player, I would like to point out that, with experience in the game, you will break more combos on reaction and fewer by guessing. Also, if you get a read on when people are going to try to break a combo, you can counter break them for huge damage. There's a very deep mind game around comboing, breaking, and counter breaking that wasn't mentioned at all Also, the Shadow Counter really needs to be mentioned. It's a really cool defensive mechanic.

[@Maggotbone]

I'm starting to incorporate Shadow Counter into my play and it's really changing the way I deal with pressure. And by that i mean I don't have to HOLD SHIT

[@thepassingstatic6268]

@@Maggotbone I'm still learning that lesson. I dont shadow counter as much as I try to dp my way through stuff

[@Eji1700]

Yeah he gets a few things kinda off for KI. You also don't need a heavy ender to cash out, just any ender. And no mention of manuals/other ways that characters make combos unique. The game gets railed on a lot for having "auto" combos, but a high level match has some pretty off the wall shit going on, even with someone like Jago. As for breakers, the logic is simple. Light's need to be guessed, mediums/heavies can be reacted to (for the most part). i found that once I played a bit it starts becoming very obvious what's a heavy vs what isn't (especially for linkers since it's always 1/2/3 hits for l/m/h), and the rest is just getting comfortable with the timing and understanding how to use the threat of a breaker vs actually trying. Again manuals sorta throw a wrench in all of that (which is good) but feels kinda like the experience he had with the game wasn't based on accurate information.

[@gabrieljardim9313]

And also have jugle combos that for some characters like sadira are the most used way to combo

[@ManiacMonkboon]

As a Killer Instinct player of the older game's, I must say that KI + Backwards Compatibility are the 2 features that are swaying my decision to go Xbox-Series-X this round instead of PS5. KI is an awesome game if you understand it and understand what's happening on screen. Try as much as I may but I can't follow what's happening on screen in mvc3 or PR:BFTG. But I get KI and have missed KI far too long.

[@as95ms98]

"An Owl PNG away" I'm starting to think I have a type for youtubers.

[@eliastew9636]

When he brought that up I thought the same thing 😂

[@Lomaxxx53]

I laughed so hard at that part

[@ssssafia]

@@Lomaxxx53 fellow year walk stan

[@RougeMephilesClone]

There's also a bunch of free indie games on Steam and elsewhere. Steam games include Hyperfight, Schwarzerblitz, and Ultra Fight da Kyanta 2. Stuff elsewhere includes fangames like Sonic Smackdown, Card Sagas Wars, Super Smash Flash 2, and a whole host of other games that fit into different breeds of fighting games. Also, hey, Fightcade 2 has a ton of great old fighting games, and since it's PC emulation, it's free!

[@tavrincallas3218]

I really like Hyperfight's design, the die in one hit but can use points to use stronger moves thing is really interesting, I wouldn't mind a higher budget version of it. I don't know the other ones you mentioned (except Smash Flash), I'll definitely give them a look :)

[@blazerchocobo]

>Kyanta Hell yeah

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

most of those games are wild, too

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

@@blazerchocobo Through Barley, I grow Stronger

[@ieatatsonic]

Kuantan is a thing of beauty

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

Killer instinct will still be my favorite fighting game. Got so much out of it playing with friends, and man I still listen to the soundtrack daily

[@TheEcrafters]

rising thunder is just the riot fighting game waiting room.

[@marthsinclair3796]

Thank you for mentioning Brawlhalla, I've seen content creators who specialize in platform fighters and don't even mention Brawlhalla. I wanted to get into platform fighters ever since playing Melee as a kid, but from barriers like bad training modes and limited to non-existent online, Brawlhalla is the first fighting game I've actually felt enabled to improve at.

[@rose_cat_0]

that game sucks

[@TheL0rd0fSpace]

Funny, I just got into KI since getting it on Steam from the winter sale, and it's become the only fighting game I feel I can actually grasp, helped by the fact that most of my nuclear family has some experience with but are still near(ish) my beginner level. I love the combo and breaking system, especially with how Combo Assist makes it accessible to new players without dumbing down its complexities: it lets everyone access the combo system, but you still have to understand it to truly utilize it. Also, it means that while you're being combo'd, you have some means of interaction with everything that brings: mind games, reads, counter reads, reactions, all that good stuff. Also, the breaker system showing you which button you should've pressed when you lock out is super handy: I don't know what I'm looking for, and my reaction time is even slower than yours, but I just noticed "Huh, every time I mash a breaker, my opponent was attacking with mediums. I should mash medium breakers." and starting breaking my opponent way more. Basically, I think you do need someone as scrubby as you to properly enjoy learning, but I love the game and what it adds to the genre.

[@spyopz]

Sir feel free to make that RAID Shadow Legends revenue

[@zixdoexceltheplasmanian9047]

Lolllll

[@ggomolinsky]

Get the bag Leon!

[@slurpfung906]

Yeah we can just wait or even skip 2 mjnutes of the ad, fuck the guys whos gonna complain you deserve the cash for the work you put in these videos.

[@SirLightsOut99]

That's how I feel. We all make fun of Raid, and rightfully so, but in the end its not like we all don't just skip the ad anyway. It may hurt to see people having to throw false praises at this game but in the end they get loads of money from it. And for those who go out of their way to actively hate the game, it's not like the company who made it can go on like this forever. No one is unironically playing Raid in 2021 so they'll have to run out of micro transaction money to hand out eventually.

[@Luuklin]

​@@SirLightsOut99Unfortunately this just isn't true. The only reason Raid can afford to pay content creators a fortune is because some the people watching will get addicted to the game and spend even more on it than Leon would get paid for doing the ad. If nobody was spending big on Raid, they would have gone out of business long ago.

[@leukashot123]

"Nobody talks about this fucking game" Man... that just... I don't even know what to say other than that stings. Especially with EVO 2020 being cancelled :'(

[@DanPorterBridges]

That was devastating. I was so hyped to see KI on the big stage again where it belongs.

[@Eji1700]

Especially with how hype the previous KI EVO showings were. What a mess. It's a huge shame that MS doesn't seem to want to support a sequel. That game did amazing given they never really had faith in it.

[@orionsong1624]

What about kyanta?

[@radio_shapka]

Offline KI in countries other than USA is pretty much not existing as far as i know. It's a damn shame.

[@puellapurin]

The amount of "apologies" you put justifying not making a more essay formated video makes me think someone really fucking hurt you >-> Dw so much, we love your content and sexy voice no matter the topic at hand

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

Just want to say something about Brawlhalla (because you mentioned that your not really able to comment on it), as someone who has played it for almost 3 years now: Brawlhalla is a platform fighter with some, lets say, strange design decisions. Your sole defensive options are a dodge (which is on a timer) and an extreme amount of movement options, stemming mostly from dash. Many people (especially smash players) are immediately turned off by the movement you have, often thinking it's trying to encourage floaty gameplay, but it rarely turns out that way. Brawlhalla uses offstage interactions more than any platform fighter I've ever seen, to the point where there are weapons in the game whose main gameplan is to gimp your opponent. True combos in this game are usually very simple affairs, with with the (few) 3 hit true combos often being cited as broken. But strings are plentiful, and work in harmony with the dodge system: reading a dodge allows you to do these strings while your opponents dodge is on cooldown. In fact, one weapon in the game (scythe) is almost entirely based around strings and dodge reads, while having few practical true combos. I would definitely recommend Brawlhalla to anyone, but like any fighting game, it isn't that fun until you understand the game first.

[@ramp8536]

Brawlhalla was the first fighting game that I ever tried to play online and as a then beginner to fighting games as a whole, the movement system was the biggest draw to me. The sheer amount of recovery/aerial options you have gives it an unparalleled amount of freedom for beginners. Trying to outmaneuver thrown weapons, bombs, and other players was insanely fun and compelled me to actually try to understand and execute some of the slightly more advanced concepts and techniques like Gravity Cancel because they integrated naturally within the core of the game. I also prefer it to Smash in that it's a lot faster and there are actual true, consistent combos even with DI. One thing about the game that I think may turn some players off is how it handles characters, where instead of all having their own unique move sets, each character has a unique set of 2 of the game's weapons with different special moves or "signatures," as well as different stats dictating movement speed, attack speed, damage, and defense. It's definitely a way for the devs to release new characters faster than any other fighting game out there and the weapon system that results from this is super interesting to me, but it also means that characters are individually less interesting, and there aren't any characters that are truly unique and break from the gameplay mold of Brawlhalla.

[@kyrem1281]

nerf rocket lances

[@ramp8536]

@@kyrem1281 no pls they're my crutch

[@thebigcheese5536]

@@ramp8536 Except for Yumiko, she's like her own character because of her sigs. The weapons are really good though, and they act like a roster. The "roster" is really small, but it's fun enough to keep playing for years.

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

The whole point of Smash movement option differing between characters is to make them unique and kind of balance them out. Imagine Ganondorf with the same movement/recovery options as Villager. Hell no

[@royfriend]

It's worth mentioning Rising Thunder never got officially finished for anyone interested in it; the devs works for Riot Games now.

[@xenit7837]

6:50 that sounds like a you problem chief....love this game

[@Chasmic]

Other than Tough Love Arena which has been brought up in the comments numerous times, I gotta shoutout Schwarzerblitz. 100% free indie 3D fighting game with a sizeable roster and a ridiculous amount of single player modes, including a story mode. It doesn't have any online multiplayer built in but can be played with other people using Steam Remote Play with surprisingly little lag.

[@loganquinn5912]

Killer instinct is definitely not everyone's game, but personally as a killer instinct player, it's one of my personal favorite fighting games. The mind games you create with the other player, and the fact that even when someone is laying into you, you're still playing the game, trying to cancel their damage is so much fun. It's totally understandable that there are people that dont find it comfortable

[@Se7enRemain]

As someone who at this point in my life, is more concerned with taking 3 tiny blue pills than remembering Filia's reset scenarios; Fantasy Strike felt like a warm hug to welcome me back to one of my favorite genres. I know it's simple. I still got a ton of gratification beating people through fundamentals and smart decision making within the limited system. Enough, even, that I got into the ranked.

[@Screwz_HT]

"owl png away from identity theft" I knew you reminded me of someone

[@10kRats]

>owl PNG away from identity theft you say that, but you release videos consistently :p

[@tylandgameco.3201]

Why shammy must you curse us with such good quality but so little quantity

[@kuzunohaxiv7912]

Who is he referring to?

[@TheJakeJackson]

@@kuzunohaxiv7912 Please update me when they tell you who, I am also curious.

[@Shabadaba1216]

@@kuzunohaxiv7912 Shammy. Leon's commentary style is pretty similar to Shammy's.

[@Shabadaba1216]

@@TheJakeJackson Shammy

[@thebigcheese5536]

I'm a major Brawlhalla fan, and I was very happy to see the end of the video, plus this vid did give me a new perspective on Fantasy Strike, which was really cool.

[@duncan6972]

Touhou Hisoutensoku is another great fighting game, and even has rollback netcode because of a fan patch. Highly recommend, especially if you're already a Touhou fan.

[@r15835]

Wait, are you talking about that Dong Dong clone?

[@alastair5146]

@@r15835 im sorry but wtf is a dong dong

[@babytricep437]

Weeb

[@r15835]

@@babytricep437 normie.

[@technicolormischief-maker5683]

@@r15835 Hisoutensoku is the standalone dlc for a game a year older than Dong Dong, and itself came out the same year as Dong Dong. What’re you on about, calling it a clone?

[@Cringycoot]

honestly this is a great and fair video, trying to stay honest and give you an inage of what each game is like while not stretching the main ideas too much to the level of boredom.

[@PaladinJones]

I've been playing Brawlhalla for 4 years and I can say, BMG is not one of those companies that only want money. The game is heavily supported by the community, and the dev actually listen, like for real they do. its constantly being updated, evolving, IT HAS RAYMAN and the esports scene is amazing. plz try it out

[@zakil9968]

They want money

[@CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR]

Thats just false, the Game sucks and all the pros are leaving It

[@honeyham6788]

really appreciate that you don't like Motion Inputs as they are the number 1 thing that's prevented me from being able to enjoy this genre. I've managed to find solace in Super GNT4, which is free to play, but thats only because it's like a decade old and the community ripped the software apart and rebuilt it on a community run discord. But it is an active game with it's own competitive scene and everything. If anyone wants to play a 3D fighter like Tekken without any of those nasty motion inputs and it's free on a public discord, check the game out

[@Deatg-ek8rf]

Melty Blood community edition + discord and 3rd Strike on fightcade are all you need.

[@CriticsConfession]

It's a shame so many "hardcore FGC" guys don't give DOA the time of day, because, yes Koei Tecmo is pure fucking evil and deserve to go bankrupt and forced to sell their assets and dev teams to better publishers, but DOA *is* a genuinely complex and satisfying game, tarnished by shady and frankly disgusting business models. It's quite close to Virtua Fighter in its complexity with a few unique twists that make it its own thing. Tekken kids are in for a rude awakening when VF6 comes out. That doesn't however change the fact that it does some things better than other "respected" games do, for instance: free frame data, fairly good optimization for PC, and a completely free-to-play trial version that let's you get the feel of the game instead of wasting a full $60 on a game as inherently fucking broken as GBVS or DBFZ.

[@Maxler5795]

10:30 *casually fights gekkosquirrel like its nothing*

[@NerdyGrounds]

As someone whos favourite fighting game was mk9 before playing Killer instinct, I understand why KI is hard to get into. The only reason why I stuck with it was because of it's style, and how hype it was when playing with that announcer and the music. The combo system was difficult for me, even with the combo assist, but I kept going back due to its sick style. I eventually started to love it for a completely different reason as I got more comfortable with the game. Just like a Quake or Unreal Tournament duel, your always in the action, trying to get into your opponents head even when you are being comboed. I absolutely love it. Its at a point where I play any fighting game and for one reason or another, I think to myself "but it aint ki".

[@Blizzburn]

1:14 "Banco would rather that to be a Fantasy Strike is probably the simplest fighting game..." Well played. That's one way to combine two sentence into one.

[@Nparalelo]

I think Dead or Alive (at least 5) accomplished what Killer Instinct tried to do with combo breakers. In DoA you combo break based on high/medium/low attacks, and I think even new players can sometimes react accordingly. It easier to tell that instead of light/medium/heavy.

[@abdelali9279]

I got DOA 6 on the PS4 becuase of a fuck up in my loca game store, they gave me the wrong game, didn't wanted to reimburse me, so I had to buy the game I wanted again, so they can get the order right and after Kareing my way up to management they decided that they can't reimburse me but can offer me a game of the same value, being DOA 6, since there's no demand they had it dirt cheap, so it was the least worst option, I still feel scammed, by both the game store and KT, damn I won't pay DLC for characters that already were in previous games. Screw them! This is coming from a DOA fan.

[@jojobizadTRASH]

The day I'll see 1 second of HFTF footage will be the end of the world as I know it

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

7:28 Hehe, 40% of your life, heh... *laughs in 70+% RAAM combo*

[@valentineRedgrave]

I have 800 hrs on brawlhalla Its fucking worth it man, if you can ignore the toxicity

[@trevward5508]

I've been playing Killer Instinct since 2013 & let me tell you that it's worth trying. We have new players still getting into the game & we have a World Cup happening online throughout all of 2021! This doesn't include the many members hosting events, a discord, & even a KI school through Patreon. There is plenty going on for the game if one is interested in picking it up right now. For those that are looking to play. I highly recommend looking at Infilament's guide AKA the KI Bible. KI allows for extreme diversity through the diverse cast & combo system. A player must always mix up their combos to not get broken. I can understand the struggle of breaking combos in that game as a newcomer. You have to learn how to break every character. Light linkers are unreactable so you have to guess & light autodoubles you have to anticipate. The Steam version is an odd one. You can NOT play crossplay with Xbox/Win10 in ranked. HOWEVER, you CAN through exhibition & lobbies. If you want to grind ranked then the Win10/Xbox version is preferable. Great video! However, I can't believe you didn't recommend people to buy +R (don't worry though +R has already shown me that I love Guilty Gear since the rollback update). Also, Punch Planet is cool if you don't mind a smaller playerbase than even Fantasy Strike or KI Steam numbers. Oh, ToughLoveArena is now a thing which was probably shown off after the video was made.

[@Eggroll3s]

I recommend putting the community edition for melty blood in the description. The steam version is not really worth it imo, but that's just a quick piece of advice. Great video all around

[@swknj3406]

That goes into the p word and why he didn't talk about games playable on FC2/Nulldc/etc. while showing a bunch of those group of games in the beginning of the video.

[@tavrincallas3218]

Really cool video, also I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like KI combos very much. I'm more of a juggling guy, personally, as I'm mostly an MK 11 player. That being said, I still have access to the Game Pass until March, so I may give KI another shot. I was told characters are so unique and you confirmed it

[@thepassingstatic6268]

You can juggle in KI. It's just a matter of learning the system, but you can definitely juggle. Look up KI Rash juggles and just look in awe

[@tavrincallas3218]

@@thepassingstatic6268 thanks, mate!

[@MacGuffinProd]

0:35 yeah thats why you read one piece and not watch it dude I swear

[@Yuki_1927]

Yup, the anime is a waste of time.

[@vovabars1234]

Bro it gets better after episode 94382938 I swear

[@MacGuffinProd]

@@vovabars1234 its good from chapter 1 in the manga the anime is ass though that's what I'm saying

[@MacGuffinProd]

@@vovabars1234 also your pfp is jojo which the manga is longer than the one piece manga

[@vovabars1234]

MacGuffin i know I’m just memeing

[@PortSDG]

haven't even finished the video but I already know this is about to be a banger

[@Air21Man]

14:36 I mean, the monetization for Brawlhalla is completely ridiculous. The crossover skin for Specter Knight is more expensive than the game he is from.

[@Pocket_Jake]

granted, all of the monetization is completely cosmetic and the gameplay is 100% f2p

[@hecksnek6158]

Something I like about killer instinct is how dynamic it is. The fact that you can start a round with less health, or better position than your opponent is fascinating (not to mention characters like arbiter and aria, who could only make sense inside KI), but I had a similar frustration with the combo system and ended up dropping it.

[@Gender_Ascender]

A Shammy reference, huh? No wonder I immediately enjoyed basically all your videos as they kept popping up. Good stuff, man.

[@ginker4658]

1:18 without DIVEKICKing I see what you did there

[@monstermadchenkoishi2403]

Touhou Hisoutensoku is extremely easy to download for free. Too bad it's only possible to get multiplayer matches through Soku discord servers, learning it is abstract af because it's so weird, and downloading it is only 'allowed but kinda still illegal' because the creator of Touhou doesn't give a shit about piracy if it means more people play Touhou. Still fun though, try it if you want a fighting game fused with some wild af bullet hell mechanics.

[@ramp8536]

It's really funny to me that Brawlhalla currently has more players on Steam than Tekken 7, Street Fighter 5, DBFZ, and the rest of the games in this video COMBINED.

[@Lucain24]

Bruh your punchlines xD they kill me. New subscriber immediately

[@Star_Warrior_Rose]

Being honest I think KI making combos easier is one of the best things in the genre. A lot of new players end up spending too much time fixating on combos and getting the muscle memory to do long damaging combos, likewise a lot of new players will die to long combos and feel like they need to learn long combos to win, with kis more streamlined combos a beginner can theoretically do a max damage combo with no real practice meaning they'll worry less about these longer combos and instead on getting the hit that leads to these combos, in order to avoid getting broken players will also learn to mix up their moves as to become less predictable which are two elements that I see a lot of new players having issues with. Killer Instinct takes away what I believe is one of the biggest traps to new comers in fgs and I think that it is a better fighter on the whole for it

[@FullMetalSnorlax]

As someone who has played Killer Instinct since it launched in 2013 I can tell you that I have almost never break combos on reaction, It is much easier (for me me at least) to learn your opponents patterns and combo tendencies and predict what button they will hit next. KI is a game the makes you realize how easy it is to fall into a rhythm, and how hard it is to realize that you've fallen into a rhythm.

[@englishmotherfucker1058]

there's tough love arena if you don't even want to download the damn thing, five buttons, browser, learned it five minutes. I love it

[@Eji1700]

Rising Thunder Rushdown- I dunno man. I mained deflect crow up to the top 60 and Fchamp played a pretty nasty "shoto" style chel at the "peak" of the game. Everyone who's left swears the game is nothing but aggressive rushdown, but i can't help but wonder if that's just who stuck around having the loudest voices. I found it super rewarding to beat people from halfway across the screen while they tried to figure out how to get in on a hidden missile tier projectile and s/c.H

[@bbqchipspls]

Killer instinct is the best fighter. Make sure to try it, reader! I GUARANTEE YOU will find a character for you!

[@SoMuchNoise1]

"Someone who doens't find training mode very engaging but is also not smart enough to figure things out midmatch" I feel seen

[@Beuzer0]

- Skullgirls is often at 1$ - Kyanta is free - DOA5LR and DOA6 are both free, with 4 free characters. Then you can buy another main for 4€ - ACPR gets dirt cheap during sales

[@keeylt634]

Idk I liked this video. Your opinion is clearly that of someone that's been in the scene for a long time so hearing what you have to say feels genuine. Like all you really want is for someone else to experience the feeling of getting hooked on your first fighting game. (I mean I've already played all these games but hearing your take is still enjoyable) good video, thank you!

[@InsomniaDaydreamer]

Sorry Santa beating up Jesus in the beginning of the video is the best way to start anything

[@malimations]

I don't understand what half of this video means but I like

[@boateye]

I am so glad to hear you say that you could not play KI. I tried that game and DBFZ for so long but had the exact same issues as you. I felt like an NPC whenever I played online and not in the way where it felt like I had the ability or the tools to become better. Side note to anyone who may be wondering, yes, rising thunder is the game that the upcoming league of legends fighting game is based on. It was canceled early in development because riot bought the studio and the game was released to the community to take over.

[@renkagamine4227]

forgot to mention riot games took rising thunder to make a fighting game out of their mechanics which is why rising thunder isnt getting any sort of focus or attention anymore, still expect the same game mechanics but with different more developed characters

[@yeetkunedo]

Tekken Revolution was one of BN’s attempts at making a F2P model fighting game. SoulCalibur: Lost Swords and Rise of Incarnates were also in that same vein, from the same publisher, the latter being a very terrible attempt at removing the Gundam license from Gundam Extreme Versus for ease of worldwide release. All of these versions were, how do you say, not good.

[@unclefungus2829]

Dang, I was really hoping you would talk about Ultra Fight Da Kyanta 2. Amazing video nonetheless. Keep up the good work.

[@BigHeadNerdy]

I absolutely love your sarcasm

[@thetoastingtoaster9435]

Glad to see freesia in the outro

[@xXZexionVIXx]

thank god for your comment, I was going crazy trying to figure out where I knew the song from. Should've figured it'd be from Guilty Gear knowing Leon lol

[@superbro6413]

Nothing says the next great economic depression then _fighting games (tm)!_ Quick overview of DOA since you aren't having any: If you don't like KI's combo breakers, steer _clear_ from this game. Other than that, it's aight. At least Eliot is cool.

[@blgdoesthings4122]

cool ass stages go brrrrr

[@MrTheWimmer]

Guessing he won't play it since he mainly plays tekken.

[@Thalanox]

I have DOA 2 Ultimate and DOA 3 for the original XBox, but my XBox is on the fritz for some reason. I'm really looking for ways to still play that game, since xbox emulation isn't really possible yet.

[@slime-mahou-shoujo]

Thank god someone else with slow reaction times who plays fighting games, as much as I love DBFZ it gets on my nerves how close-to-reactable everything is

[@Rook502]

“An owl png away from identity theft”, hey i got that one!! Nice reference

[@kayanims]

K.I is my favorite in the list but you forgot to mention DOA

[@MaxMythos]

Your videos are so clean dude, great work.

[@andrewroes7942]

Wake up babe, new Leon Massey video

[@michel0dy]

There's this game called Metal Revolution, it's a F2P game with some similarities to Rising Thunder. It's got some potential, and of all these "easy inputs" fighting games is the one I'd like to see grow the most.

[@zachwhaley208]

You have one of the most unique and entertaining voices on KZbin. Great job! (I don’t even play fighting games anymore...)

[@vexx7755]

I dont agree with your take on KI, but this is a good video. It properly addresses the premise of the title.

[@lcg1555]

Project L will save us

[@srutut]

Yes! 100% agree with you about the Killer Instinct. Also, with every hit the screenshake makes me sick.

[@Rayqauzay]

KI steam numbers are the worst to check as people play on the other two platforms instead

[@Rayqauzay]

@@ifeobasa5459 Not just that, why would most current players (Xb/W10) play on Steam when all your progress is saved on the other two. Its a reason I didnt even bother with the Steam version.

[@yugijak]

Honestly despite having trash reactions myself I LOVE KI. The game becomes less about reactions and more about predictions. In short the more you know about each character and their game plan the stronger your defense not just from a technical standpoint but a very literal one because you know the exact buttons they want to press. It is DEFINITELY not an easy to get into. The reward comes from patience and lots of pain. But the reward is so worth it. Even when losing that understanding of simply not having learned enough is one of the best things. I do feel that not enough emphasis is put on the tutorial which covers a massive range of topics that also apply to other fighting games. And I mean stuff I don't even think Skullgirls covers.

[@playmaker9186]

I will mention Shadow Fight Arena. It's a (at this time) mobile fighting game that does feature a lootbox system and it's mostly just small stat boosts and passives that aren't too broken until very high in the ranks. You can get around to unlock every character if you play enough and the Shadow System is preety cool. You have 3 fighters on your team and you choose one to battle. You use your fighters until someone has none and they win the match. The shadow system is filling up bar and entering Shadow Mode for most characters, where you unlock your supers. Characters have different passives and playstyles so you aren't gonna get bored trying them out. Don't go to the official discord though. Please do try it if you want, it's free and on mobile for now so it's easy to access, I promise you won't regret it!

[@sasaawd1]

there would an "honorary" one, being free and totally legal, which is Hyper DBZ. While it doesn't sport any online, excluding via usage of Ikemen or Parsec, it still technically counts as a pretty good way of enjoying a DBZ 1v1 competitive game, without the need of spending extra cash for DBFZ. But i can understand this list was made with games officially supported in some way or from personal experience

[@diamondhamster4320]

Idol Showdown is one for an empty walllet and it is fine.

[@YokohamaKaidashi]

I could also recommend fightcade. Internet archive has all the roms saved for preservation purposes. Have been enjoying Vsav personally.

[@Spunney]

did you watch the part of the video where he talks about legality

[@Cezkarma]

Did you watch the first bit of the video?

[@YokohamaKaidashi]

@@Spunney He couldn't. I am.

[@lemonbread8019]

Melty Blood and Touhou Hisoutensoku are also free* and have rollback netcode, if you're looking for some more anime. *If you don't mind sailing the seven seas

[@CaptGarth980]

I like the little owl.

[@MrTekhnical]

DOA5/6 Core fighters is a good choice if player's are interested in a F2P 3D fighting game. So was Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown when it was available for free.

[@BoyWithTheCoolName]

Tekken did have a free-to-play fighting game back in 2013, called Tekken Revolution. It's actually the game that gave us Eliza, but that's probably the only "good" (depending on who you talk to) thing about that game. I played a bit of it in 2014 before the shut the servers down, and it wasn't the best thing in the world. By the time the game shut down, there were 29 playable characters, but only 8 were unlocked from the get-go. You had to use your fight money to buy new characters (except for Eliza), which you earned by playing online, but to play online, you needed to spend a regenerating free-to-play currency that you could buy for like a dollar a pop. If I remember correctly, there were two match currencies, one for casual matches that capped out at like 10, and one for ranked matches that capped out at 5. To unlock Eliza, you needed to get enough of her unique currency, Blood Seals, by playing matches. You earned something like 5 - 10 Blood Seals per match, but to unlock her you needed something like 25,000, and to unlock her big boobie variant, you needed somewhere around 200,000. You could earn more Blood Seals by playing the Mokujin Rush, but you could only play that once a day. The Fighter Customization was still a thing, but I believe everything cost an extreme amount of fight money, so the game encouraged you to spend your real world money on it. There was also a character leveling system in the game that let you spend skill points on character attributes, but I'm sure you're not even going to read this much, so I'll just say that it was bad. It wasn't a great game, even for free. If Bandai Namco were to do it again in the future, I hope it's a free alternative like Core Fighters instead of a complete free-to-play game.

[@BeyondAnimation]

hyper dragon ball z is also a free game, fan game, but still free and DOA6

[@darkingmimo]

My favourite free to play fighting game is Ultra Fight Da Kyanta 2 :)

[@ShivaM-dc4xe]

i would like to recommend tough love arena. it is a browser based simple fighter with 6 characters and most of all - rollback netcode. it is just a week or 2 old and it is getting popular everyday !

[@deadfr0g]

It’s still just absolute sorcery to me that they managed to implement rollback in a browser-based fighting game. Seems pretty amazing.

[@ShivaM-dc4xe]

@@deadfr0g i know right ! the guy is all in and knows what takes to be good. he has learned what the community wants and has implemented it. (btw i have a soft spot for indie games)

[@guitaroach]

Funny cuz every time I play, it seems to have less and less players online, lol

[@gab_gabriel7091]

As a Smash player, Brawlhalla is commonly regarded as one of the better Smash alternatives out there. It has a lot of Smash-like elements that can make it easily accessible to anyone who's played a platform fighter but has enough of its own jankiness to give itself its own identity. There's someone else in the comments who has more experience with it than me (I've only played it for like a year) but basically, it has some elements that may seem off putting at first, like the basic movement, but the combat comes together so naturally that its hardly an issue and takes very little adjustment to get used to Also, if you want a free-to-play Smash game, literally just play SSF2. Its, quite literally, a free-to-play Smash game. It plays a lot like Smash 4 but has a lot less technical mechanics like Footstools and Ledge Trumps. Also it has Waluigi, Sora, Isaac and a single Fire Emblem rep so it immediately has my thumbs up

[@Christian-rv4cy]

I'd honestly be really interested to see kind of like this where you break down the general game plan and ideas behind every current modern fighting game like you did here, maybe as a type of "which fighting game is for you" type video

[@carlosmartinez-jd5gp]

All hits in KI are reactable when you’re breaking, a bad internet connection makes it hard, but framing it as a guess initially is misleading when you immediately turn back to saying it’s your own fault for not having the reaction time for pulling it off. No haze here, just wanted to note that interesting editorial.

[@heinokunzelmann8967]

there's also that LoL fighting game that's coming out "soon", which I think they mentioned would be free to play. Considering how well their card game turned out, this might be something worth keeping an eye on

[@dj_koen1265]

I dont think it will be anytime soon

[@lobster6736]

^ it was'nt

[@isaacwildflower214]

Still isn't out btw

[@rookless4121]

I don't play any of these games but it's still cool that you are making content

[@linvega671]

Thanks for showing Melty so much early on lmao

[@topdogg1231]

1:13 did you said "bandai namco would rather that be a FANTASY" and then "Strike" to slide into talking about Fantasy Strike? If so that's a hell of a hit confirm

[@mAceOfHearts]

I understand that you can't really talk about them, but... Melty Blood and Fightcade, man. That's that good shit.

[@charcharmunr]

I appreciate that nobody seems to know quite what Vlad was in Rising Thunder. He's just... He's just a good boy.

[@eternal_hangnail]

Was nice to hear Fresia at the end