The 16 simple rules of the montante from Diogo Gomes de Figueiredo's work: "The Memorial for the Practice of the Montante" The composite rules are not included in this video.
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@orionmelton32267 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the coolest ways to exercise ever.
@Seyeiin9 жыл бұрын
I have 3 observations, take them as positive compliments - from a laic. Observation 1) Sword never stopped, almost all of the time it moved on a circular trajectory to keep momentum. Observation 2) It seems really easy to change the direction of your attack or cover all directions. Continous motion supports it. Observation 3) I see that it is 65% hand and 33 footplay. But I also see the subtle impulses your torso puts into action.
@TheCrimsonIdol9873 жыл бұрын
1. For swords of this size, it's crucial to keep the momentum going. Longsword is much more sharp and controlled in comparison. 2. Exactly, especially if your footwork is on point. The whole point of the greatsword/zweihander/spadone/motante is to claim space. 3. It's all mostly footwork and core strength in these cuts, believe it or not. It just seems that way once the blade's in motion, and you're just guiding its momentum with your legs and core muscles. Pretty much the only way to get control like this with a sword of this size. Not that the sword is heavy, mind you, around 5 lbs for a sword of this size, and typically it's really long, so by the nature of the weapon, you have to change your biomechanics a bit to be fast, fluid, and deadly with a sword of this size.
@ArminJohansson8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a student of sword technique, more of a theatrical swordplay lover. This swordplay was really beautiful, the most beautiful I've seen.
@robertsprankle612711 ай бұрын
The sentiment was shared! Montante was a favored weapon for bodyguards during its heyday, as it could easily keep a group of would-be assassins or muggers at bay in a semi-enclosed area like a city street. Anyone with half a brain would think twice before approaching a big hunk of steel swinging around at that speed, and it was pretty much a given that if a mercenary was being paid for their services, they knew what they were doing with said big hunk of steel.
@greg_gamer2 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says that two-handed swords are heavy and clumsy, this is my go-to video to send them.
@redrounin14408 жыл бұрын
The legend never dies
@bengtsvenson85578 жыл бұрын
praise the sun
@solaireofastora7006 жыл бұрын
praise be the fucking sun
@Khrene3 жыл бұрын
It'd be wild he busted out a cartwheel during one of his forms
@petertimowreef90859 жыл бұрын
This was a lot of things but simple was not one of them.
@bobafettdavis8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Timowreef Divide up the movements ,visualize the applications, and it becomes so much simpler
@bearling4778 жыл бұрын
+Peter Timowreef You should look up his actual rule set, reading it might give you a better idea of each movement, then use videos like this to reference when something is not clear.
@michealhoffstater98107 жыл бұрын
I just cross-referenced the simple and composed versions of rule 1, and let me tell you... The simple version is basic as FUCK in comparison.
@Tadechicotah6 жыл бұрын
That's how figueiredo himself called these moves. There are other rules he called "composed"
@danterhyme7 жыл бұрын
Size him up 3 times, add some uber-knight armor and this would be the best Dark Souls boss ever
@danterhyme7 жыл бұрын
Or atack helicopter :P
@TheSwordsPathChannel8 жыл бұрын
Excellent dynamics!
@coolbule12387 жыл бұрын
The Sword's Path aaaayyy i see you fam! love your channel dude!
@captain-schnurre36786 жыл бұрын
The Sword's Path Hello Allan!
@DoreanRoshe2 жыл бұрын
0:07 Rule 1 Simple 0:19 Rule 2 Simple 0:34 Rule 3 Simple 05:52 Rule 4 Simple 1:12 Rule 5 Simple 1:35 Rule 6 Simple Other rules got their own timecodes.
@bobafettdavis8 жыл бұрын
Very fine example of how big weapons don't have to lack finesse for power. You demonstrated how easy energy and momentum can be generated and sprung in the stances and how to change angles for utilizing defense, as well as offense, in circular simple movements.
@donmarlon59244 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I had no idea something this formidable and dynamic was a feature of late-medieval battlefields. Thank you for making this remarkable film available.
@MichaelGThomas Жыл бұрын
Other than the gangplank scenario, all are designed here for a non-military context. For use on the battlefield most of these movements would be all but impossible to utilise.
@bramvanworkum Жыл бұрын
Images of greatswords diving into pike formations would disagree with that
@kisaragi_san1378 Жыл бұрын
@@bramvanworkum he's still correct, you're not spinning it around over your head but rather using your greatsword to bind up the enemy polearms and allow your polearms to incapacitate/kill them
@alicaido66166 жыл бұрын
Great swords - the only weapon where spinning is truly viable.
@3l3895 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't "spin" neither you are rather covering all your flanks. This weapon is made to use against multiple oponents so you have to be carefull.
@1nkw3ll4 жыл бұрын
What about Beyblades though?
@sionefinaulahi46404 жыл бұрын
pointy sticc He is the messiah!
@sovex93314 жыл бұрын
It certainly looks intimidating trying to close the distance... but I can imagine a lot of the swings wouldn't end up doing serious damage and even though the rotation generates a lot of momentum and it makes it hard to parry or deflect the blade it shouldn't be too hard for an experience swordsman to close the gap and deliver a fatal thrust.
@sovex93314 жыл бұрын
@@tehcks It would make sense though... you need powerful swings to deflect pikes or spears thrusted towards you, so using a constant spin is a good way to do it - now the problem is it can work both ways, the more momentum you put in it the harder it becomes to control - it is still a sword and it can easily deflect when hiting a shield or piece of armor. Having such a long blade makes it almost impossible to use within grapling distance even with half-swording techniques so I guess it did end up as a very popular choice for large battles.
@Mantinae8 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I could tell you must've spent countless hours practicing this routine. Well done :).
@LewaElite8 жыл бұрын
This man will survive the zombie apocalypse
@magicbeetle22923 жыл бұрын
Yeah this weapon was designed to deal with a large number of targets in little to no armor, it would she'd zombies
@joolsgrommers14669 жыл бұрын
I think this (and the video of the composed) are the only 'complete' interpretations of the Memorial. As these things go, I don't agree with all of it, and am very grateful for insight into other parts. My main interpretation difference has to be 3s (and the rules that use the same sequence) I read a "talho from behind" as a rising cut like in 1s and a "talho forward" as a descending cut. This would make 3s a ribbon cut, quite a likely basic move. It seems to me he is introducing basic techniques in the first 5 simple rules, which he then expands upon in the following ones. I fully understand if you disagree (on 3s or anything else) but would love to read your arguments. Thanks again for a great collection.
@montantenino84609 жыл бұрын
Jools Grommers If Figueiredo specified it as being a rising cut, as he does elsewhere, then I would do it as one. He says in the final parts of the memorial that the executive movements are natural, so it would make sense that he would specify in his work which cuts would be an exception. I used to be part of NoVA Assalto back when it was still active, and the rising-then-descending variant was one of the first interpretations I learned for 3s as well. It felt neither protective nor smooth, and was very easy for an opponent with any experience to take advantage of in sparring. The double descending cut creates less drastic openings on the body, moves and suppresses with more authority, is less easy itself to suppress, and is easier to pull off in sparring. It's also a MUCH less suicidal movement against people with shields. By shifting the compass during the preparation, you can maintain a fluidity of position and measure that lets you maintain the advantage and possibly even pull off an opposition technique (though this isn't specified). I would still do a rising motion to parry if doing a half cut, but the rising motion would not be a cut in and of itself as it's just the dispositive preparation, and bringing the sword all the way behind me to do that would be inefficient if in immediate need of such an active parry. I don't dislike the idea of doing a still rising cut then stepping with another cut, but I personally do not think that's what's being described there. Where in this video I ready the still cuts from behind by doing a large circle to bring the hilt behind my head, they could also easily be readied by doing a rising dispositive motion behind you, like a half-cut, checking behind you, then giving the double-cut in front. He uses the double cut in his rule 6 against a single montantero though, so I like to do the circle as my default dispositive motion as it still has utility if there's just one opponent. It depends on what you want to do. Finding something that "felt right" for the double cut was a huge irritation for me for the longest time, this was the one that felt smooth and suitably murderous.
@joolsgrommers14669 жыл бұрын
I have been reading "from behind" as a rising cut, the people who did the translation on Oakshott seem to think this is what he means too (tried to find the discussion where one of them mentioned this, but couldn't). I don't think it matters much, Keeping the hilt in front of the face between the first and second cut keeps me pretty safe. Was just wondering. Your interpretations have helped me a lot with mine, so I can't thank you enough for that. Doesn't mean we have to agree on everything. :)
@Tadechicotah6 жыл бұрын
It's great if you have an interpretation of Figueiredo's rules. I am a native speaker of portuguese and couldn't read them all, let alone elaborate an interpretation. Please post your videos.
@daniell14832 жыл бұрын
You always read in fiction about how a sword fight can seem like a type of dance. This displays this principle very well. Graceful, focused, force without strain.
@RanOutOfSpac7 жыл бұрын
I just got myself the purple heart synthetic montante to train with (thank god or I would've cut my own arm off by now.) and I freaking love this weapon. I watched your videos before I got it to get an idea on how to wield it and I have to say you make it look so much easier than it is. I'm a grown ass man and I hardly have the strength to swing it at the speeds you do and certainly not with your fluidity and effectiveness. Of course I'll keep at it so I can get used to the weapon I just had to let you know how awesome you are with that big ass sword in your hands.
@tristanevans10624 жыл бұрын
How did it go? I'm a skinny guy and was thinking of buying one as a way to get bigger but also have fun while doing it.
@ryandeschenes58109 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visual interpretation of the form. This helped me tremendously in pursuit of my own. Great insight! Thanks for posting. How does the A&A handle? Have you used the one that Timeseller makes?
@DemonixGamer8 жыл бұрын
Strangely a lot of these moves remind me of the katas and medium style from Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast and Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy. :P It's truly elegant to look at! :D
@douglascmreis7 жыл бұрын
It's so cool when the Montante reflects the light of the Sun!
@r.t.9722 жыл бұрын
Have watched vid on and off over the years. One of the best. Thanks for this!
@kimjong_un88017 жыл бұрын
that there is a beautiful backyard
@Funktastic_Ed8 жыл бұрын
Marvelous style, a pleasure to Watch.
@alcino645 жыл бұрын
Woah... amazing body mechanics, and outstanding technique! 👍
@SwitchFeathers6 жыл бұрын
I always knew I wanted to try Montante techniques, but this video solidified that desire - that technique is absolutely beautiful! wonderful work, friend.
@Berganon7 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Great video and great precises movements. Since i found it, I tried to look for the actual manual (well a translation) to work on the recently bought simulators of my HEMA club. I start by reading and trying stuff and then compare with your video and try to understand why you did something like this and not like that etc etc. Although i have a question about the last part of the 8s. It might be an error of translation since i had not the opportunity to make it check by a portugese speaker. Note that i am french but comfortable enough with english to get the rules. Around 2.22 during the 8s after you give the Talhos turning around, my text says "[...] and a Revez while standing still, and another putting in the right foot and another removing the same right foot [...]" but you do these moves with the LEFT. It bugs me a bit. Also why do you use double circular cuts instead of simples in the beginning of the variation 2 of the same rule ? Thank you
@gutsblack80849 жыл бұрын
Hey look guys! It's Guts! The black swordsman!
@FrozenFlesh4 жыл бұрын
This is the most helpful video for learning these rules. Thanks for uploading!
@JukesMcGee7 жыл бұрын
I tried doing this and chopped my own head off.
@nicopetri35335 жыл бұрын
Still happens to me with the longsword so yeah. :D Not a good feeling.
@Christopher-N5 жыл бұрын
"Ointment! That's what you need when your head's been cut off! That's what I gave your sister Mary when they done her. 'There, there' I said, 'you'll soon grow a new one.'" -- Nursie ( _Blackadder II,_ e2 )
@FIGSANE4 жыл бұрын
YOU DIED XD
@SeraphimRoad4 жыл бұрын
Well, you know the rule. There can be only one
@rasiabsgamingcorner22584 жыл бұрын
Just rub some dirt in it you'll be fine
@iamscoutstfu4 жыл бұрын
Y'know...the way I practice the longsword is closer to this than anything else. Beautiful flow, beautiful sword. Subbed.
@artbysamc3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!! Makes me really want to train with a montante or large two handed greatsword... amazing animation reference, too!
@vinm3006 ай бұрын
Well filmed - the sun catches the blade very effectively (And "affectively" - I was transfixed)
@GreatValueDeadpool9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Anyone practicing greatsword/montante/spadone can take a lot away from this! Nice work, well done, sir!
@MrGoodcatZA8 жыл бұрын
This is how I picture Guts from Berserk using his sword.
@Crosshill5 жыл бұрын
dragonslayer guts or pre-eclipse guts cuz theres no other route than clang for the dragonslayer
@hartmutwrith31343 жыл бұрын
It can`t be better! Very well done!
@cheekygnome2039 жыл бұрын
the best techniques i've seen so far man i want to get into this sort of stuff
@IaMaPh1991 Жыл бұрын
2:46 For some reason, that little spin is just SO damn satisfying to watch
@CallofWar58 жыл бұрын
Man you looked sooo cool. cant wait to get my hands on a greatword
@ravitejapapana3 жыл бұрын
You have an amazing foot work👍
@brunogregoriodomingues51954 жыл бұрын
Outstanding skills! Astonishing!
@alexandervalentonis68147 жыл бұрын
This video is wonderful. I decided to learn the style due to this.
@mythdweller4 жыл бұрын
That footwork is incredible.
@repeatdefender60329 жыл бұрын
beautiful technique! what sword are you using?
@montantenino84609 жыл бұрын
bird bones It's an A&A montante trainer with a custom crossguard. It came with a longer blade when I ordered it, about the same size as the one on the spadone trainer.
@DemonixGamer8 жыл бұрын
+Montante Niño I saw in a Scholagladitoria video that that sword is 8 pounds - How do you lug that thing around so easily? O_o
@ikksksknsk47208 жыл бұрын
+Demonix Gamer (Alan Castillanos) Matt Easton's two-handed sword is a Del Tin sword, and Del Tin tends to make their swords overweight.
@sayanorasonic7 жыл бұрын
anyone here knows how effective this fighting style is?
@jannikp.64107 жыл бұрын
Well, a Montante´s puropse is coverin the space around the fencer and hitting everything trying to move in, and it´s Rally efective. but not for duelling.
@1Phokion8 жыл бұрын
I found this video excellent. Delightful. Inspiring. Thanks!
@johann2962 жыл бұрын
Slick and smooth as always 2:08 I really want to learn this myself.
@jhonagustine88704 жыл бұрын
This should be an example of social distancing in covid-19
@MercutioUK20068 жыл бұрын
Bookmarked. Thank you so much for this!
@connorlohse40972 жыл бұрын
Vesemir would be proud, Witcher.
@Baz1cTricks8 жыл бұрын
holy shit that was beautiful
@vast6342 жыл бұрын
What was the purpose of this weapon? As a specific bodyguard duty?
@OjanAdventure6 жыл бұрын
Still it's "Simple" yet not so Simple...... Great Job.....!!
@waveydaveyav8r4428 жыл бұрын
My God, it's beautiful! Please tell me how I can learn this!
@ricocori24478 жыл бұрын
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@ricocori24478 жыл бұрын
+David Stanley this is like asking a professional thai fighter: "how you do that?" mmm how about dedication, skill, trainning, endurance...and hours and hours of practice...
@TheUnmaker289778 жыл бұрын
+Rico Cori You are being rather harsh. "Please tell me how I can learn this" and "Teach me your secrets right this instant" are very different requests. Nothing about his original comment implies he is looking for a "short cut". Lashing out like this is only going to discourage potential beginners. The various arts of HEMA are still growing, we can't afford to turn away enthusiastic recruits. +David Stanley First and forefost, you would need people to train with. This is somewhat complicated, because HEMA is actually a collection of martial arts, not just one. That means that a "HEMA" group might not practice this weapon, in fact most focus on a shorter German longsword. On the other hand, most HEMA practitioners learn and fence with multiple weapons, and getting involved in HEMA is your best bet to eventually get to use this one. You might even be able to convince a longsword group to begin studying the greatsword (aka Spadone, Montante or Zweihander). So that would be my recommendation. Any knowledgeable group should be able to advise you on equipment, training swords etc. The most important thing is to train.
@Philoglossos8 жыл бұрын
+David Stanley I would suggest learning the longsword first with a HEMA group, either in the Italian tradition (Fiore/L'arte dell'Armizare) or in the German tradition (Kunst des Fechtens). Once you have experience with that, learning the Montante/Spadone/Zweihander/Two hander is something you should be able to achieve. The longsword is actually referred to by some masters as the "queen of weapons", because in learning it you learn the fundamental principles of most other weapons. There are HEMA groups almost everywhere nowadays, so see if there are any in your area to practice with.
@C3LTICART3L4 жыл бұрын
with enough practice an precise skill the blade an swordsman become one of a constant an very hypnotic motion
@bramvanworkum10 ай бұрын
The one thing im not quite seeing is how to do a revez or talho. The talho seems top down right to left and the revez is the opposite. Basically hau/unterhau. But is it?
@AlastorTheNPDemon9 жыл бұрын
Good grief! but is there any counter to such speed and heft besides running in the other direction?
@chanbla11mit5 жыл бұрын
Screw off your pommel and end him rightly
@doylegoregutz60109 жыл бұрын
Righteous! you just got yourself a new subscriber comrade. keep up the badassdom. Where did you get that amazing 2 handed sword from?
@djs43296 жыл бұрын
Can you describe the footwork on the first spin to keep balance when doing it? Whats the easiest way to make the spacing of your feet even when you spin?
@MatthewRoche8 жыл бұрын
That's awesome and beautiful - thanks for sharing! Is this all from the translation on wiktenauer, or are you working from another source?
@Smitty89986 жыл бұрын
Miss your vids man. Thanks for the demo
@DarkAvatar13138 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of kicking the blade at the start (instead of just lifting it)?
@Trikipum7 ай бұрын
To become a master of arms in spain back then, montante was the last weapon you had to pass a test for.
@carlosamillano63142 жыл бұрын
This just so cool looking at, Now try x2 play back speed
@slenpaiwashere35998 жыл бұрын
great technique though i have to ask how long have you been training with the montante and do you train with other swords?
@catonion12018 жыл бұрын
Why do you have to kick the sword? Wont that throw you off balance if the enemy decides to counter you right away?
@hectoralvarado31732 жыл бұрын
Would it cool if I use your vids for reference when I animate?
@bdjcasar83572 жыл бұрын
Which model of sword are you using?
@Fuerwahrhalunke3 жыл бұрын
4:44 it's almost like the weapon is pulling him, or is that just me?
@heretyk_13378 жыл бұрын
Should the left wrist bend so much? I am asking because i have had enough of katana traning and want to train something Europe related :)
@beachmaster34868 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome.
@TheTwilightEmporium8 жыл бұрын
Do you think a persons height plays a role in how successful they can be with this type of technique? A few of the moves look like floor draggers for shorter people.
@toriestrella7 жыл бұрын
Use a weapon proportionate to your height. Solves that problem handily!
@RicardoMoralesMassin7 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard from other youtubers (mainly Shadiversity) this kinds of swords were made to be as tall as the wielder (or taller) That's why you see those big sweeping motions overhead. So even a person as short as 5'5 like me should be able handle it. I'm assuming the sword is 5'5 in length because another youtuber (scholagladiatoria) has a similar sword that long.
@lukealberti50944 жыл бұрын
Do you think that these techniques would apply to a staff?
@carlobocchioart4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bobu52134 жыл бұрын
Where is the tiny alleyway rule? Where you thrust in front and behind you quickly
@elenna_alexia7 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration.
@witcher_helms51443 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound incredibly nerdy...but can you imagine wielding lightsabers like this? Jedi would be at times used as bodyguards and a montante was used by bodyguards so... Plus it would give a decent reason for all the spinning and flashy movements used in lightsaber combat.
@ChrissieBear3 жыл бұрын
"Try spinning, that's a good trick."
@oawefajweee9 жыл бұрын
Great work, awesome form! But Rule 16 form 1 is definitely quite peculiar...
@sayanorasonic7 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a question for this style, is this style all about keeping your distance away enough from the enemy to prevent him/her from grappling you? Thanks
@kenetmendoza21577 жыл бұрын
Not really, grappling with a montante is very effective too. The style is to fight against multiple oponents with various types of weapons.
@kenetmendoza21577 жыл бұрын
Jason Hulott n?
@chickensandwich15894 жыл бұрын
Why did you speed up the footage...?
@ABC-ns6ce8 жыл бұрын
the last thing u did at "guarding the lady" is that really efficient? I mean u have to stop the motion of a heavy big sword
@bearling4778 жыл бұрын
+CC S The sword is not heavy, in fact, its only 4 pounds, but this move is similar to one you might see in the use of pole weapons, especially in the use of glaives, where the body is used to halt and rebound the weapon to great effect with circumstances restrict other forms of attack.
@ryanm61393 жыл бұрын
This guy's moves exactly like Nightmare's in Soul Calibur
@andywilson86989 жыл бұрын
I'm really new to this European swordsmanship stuff . so my question is was that historically how those sword were actually used or was that more for show .
@45calibermedic9 жыл бұрын
+Andy Wilson These "Rules" or "lessons" come from a manual about the serious application of a great sword in combat, whether in defense of a town, a gate, person, etc, or on the battlefield. The great sword wielder, by being able to go through these forms and combine them and even change a cut or thrust or step here or there, is meant to gain an understanding of the inherent advantages and disadvantages of using his weapon, the power it has, the space it can dominate, etc, especially if he is up against more than one opponent and needs to keep them at bay or even smash their formation. The nature of the great sword's size means that its greatest advantage lies in keeping momentum and presenting a viable threat to all comers while the user steps to keep himself safe and put his opponents at a disadvantage, which is why this may look a bit flashy, what with all the rotations and graceful bounds across the line, but the idea of the art is to keep one's mind sharp and ideally have perfect control over one's body so that the sword and body move as one, without effort (you'll notice that he does not get tired despite swinging a great big sword around, that is because he is using the power of his body and the leverage of the long handle). This sentiment is seen throughout all of the historical manuals that I have read, even if the weapons discussed are different. Hope this helps!
@MrLlama-mm7pd Жыл бұрын
Those sound like Blue Jays.
@ovicam80313 жыл бұрын
If you turn into a bleyblade hard enough no one will be able to reach you
@richardriley50742 ай бұрын
U don't need to kick your great sword to perform those moves
@michaeltheisen4 жыл бұрын
2:23 LELELE LELELELELE LE LE LE LEEEE
@vaporz1095 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Finally someone with a sword that doesn’t look like they might chop their own leg off by accideng
@TargetedMain8 жыл бұрын
You should be in the next starwars film or game of thrones maybe the next three musketeers this style of fighting would look dope af in a movie
@TheRoland191117 жыл бұрын
kaparino TwoTrinkets they already use it in starwars
@charleshudner41492 жыл бұрын
Qual o nome desse tipo de espada?
@Uacher2 жыл бұрын
Montante.
@aurelwedding60413 жыл бұрын
This is great! Im currently working on a 3d animation of a wookiee jedi and im planning on giving him a montante style saber and technique. This video is great reference
@dariusxxo2 жыл бұрын
if you post it i’d definitely like to see
@vast6342 жыл бұрын
Yoda: "Size matters not ... unless Wookiee you are"
@BeardSous Жыл бұрын
This is literally a whirlwind of death
@johnnyvonline18626 жыл бұрын
respect.
@brandonfarfan19787 жыл бұрын
This was cool man.
@berriondo96153 жыл бұрын
Amazing footjo-... I mean... Footwork
@arpioisme8 жыл бұрын
Please cover the mangual
@JoeYT23 Жыл бұрын
👍
@Zahlenteufel13 жыл бұрын
these flashes you see is when he splits photons
@voodooozo37554 жыл бұрын
Came here from for honor warmonger video, stayed for amazing moves.