Filioque, Neoplatonism & the Church of Rome - Jay Dyer

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Jay Dyer

Jay Dyer

7 жыл бұрын

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Analysis of the pros and cons in Hofffman's book The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, as well as other topics in the full analysis related to my articles on Augustine and the filioque.
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@jasonallen332
@jasonallen332 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, I'm right now in the middle of Hoffman's book and have to say that while he brings up some interesting points that are spot on, I too have some problems with it---- I look forward to hearing more of your critique of this book. Thanks!
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
Im posting my first talk on this tonight and I've invited Hoffman on for a dialogue/debate
@mythologicalbeast5926
@mythologicalbeast5926 2 жыл бұрын
I remember one of my Roman Catholic friends said that the Holy Spirit is the love by which the Father and Son have for each other. I didn’t know that that was an idea that goes back to the time of Augustine.
@deborahsinico9732
@deborahsinico9732 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting Lecture Jay ~ This does make sense thought.
@RedFlagSaid
@RedFlagSaid 6 жыл бұрын
Jay Dyer je pravi Srbin!
@iamawaswas7706
@iamawaswas7706 7 жыл бұрын
Opinions about G.k Chesterton, Peter Kreeft or Malachi Martin??? Apporations Fatima and Russia or Communism?
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
iamawas plenty of articles on those things at my site
@malerror3
@malerror3 7 жыл бұрын
Jay, ffwd to 15:00 mins they are talkin bout hidden messages in Hollywood movie, ie the maltese falcon
@EasternOrthodoxChristian
@EasternOrthodoxChristian Жыл бұрын
Amen
@enochrockwell7202
@enochrockwell7202 6 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what name and patron you took when you became orthodox? (Inb4 it says near the end of the video, I'm typing this six minutes in)
@PaulaODowd
@PaulaODowd Ай бұрын
Did you ever find out? I think it’s Daniel
@enochrockwell7202
@enochrockwell7202 Ай бұрын
@@PaulaODowd yes he has identified the prophet Daniel elsewhere
@jiggajigjones8210
@jiggajigjones8210 7 жыл бұрын
Jay you are a very intellectual fellow. I very much enjoy your work. Is there any hope for me as a Protestant? What swayed you, mainly, away from your crazy Calvinist days, as you put it?
@Orthodoxology
@Orthodoxology 9 ай бұрын
Where are you at now? I’m a Calvinist who’s converting to orthodoxy
@hxplxss1835
@hxplxss1835 2 ай бұрын
@@Orthodoxology Welcome home!
@sharboneau2000
@sharboneau2000 7 жыл бұрын
Love to see you do a defense/presentation of iconoclasm.
@enochrockwell7202
@enochrockwell7202 6 жыл бұрын
He would not do a defense of iconoclasm because iconoclasm is heresy
@celestinehale8801
@celestinehale8801 6 жыл бұрын
Iconoclasm is evil.
@jeffsartor6577
@jeffsartor6577 5 жыл бұрын
No, he wouldn’t now. And no it is not! I was raised Protestant. I know the arguments. Icons are not worshipped in the Orthodox Church. We venerate them out of respect. We look at them when we pray (but we don’t have to) just like we would look at a photo of someone. We keep photos (or icons) of saints, Theotokos, and Christ because they are our loved ones. In fact, they are ultimate loved ones. More precisely, Christ is The Ultimate Loved One!
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 2 жыл бұрын
Where are we going with all this? Here in the North of England, my nearest Catholic Church is ten minutes' walk away, and the next nearest is 35 minutes' walk away. The nearest Orthodox Church is an hour's drive away, and at my age I cannot assume that I will retain my driving licence indefinitely. What exactly does Mr Dyer expect me to do? According to the Oros of 1755, baptism in the Catholic Church is invalid, but there was an utter lack of alternatives when I was baptised in Hebburn on Tyne 66 years ago at St Aloysius Gonzaga. Aren't you just pulling my leg? People like John Fisher and Thomas More and Father Worswick of Newcastle are my heroes. Have I got that wrong?
@alifarley8766
@alifarley8766 2 жыл бұрын
Are you still in Hebburn? There are two Orthodox parishes in Newcastle. I attend them when I’m back home.
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheeseface6328 A rather silly reply!
@cheeseface6328
@cheeseface6328 2 жыл бұрын
@@david_porthouse Are you a woman?
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheeseface6328 All you are telling me is that members of the Orthodox Church are abusive nutcases.
@PaulaODowd
@PaulaODowd Ай бұрын
Did you find a solution? I’d say just do your best to seek the Truth, I feel like God understands but we do have to struggle and strive.
@peterg4224
@peterg4224 7 жыл бұрын
you have a lot of good things to say and should have stayed on the Orthodox path but like Joseph P. Farrell in the end gnosticism got you.
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? I am Orthodox, not gnostic lol
@peterg4224
@peterg4224 7 жыл бұрын
Jay Dyer Perhaps it is another Jay Dyer that I see on Catholic Answers that wrote By: Jay Dyer As some readers now know, I have decided not to become Eastern Orthodox. Though I confessed it for the past two and a half years and was a catechumen, I chose not to be chrismated, and thus not technically becoming Orthodox. I have, after much reflection and prayer, decided to return to Catholicism. I was also instructed by my spiritual advisors to publish this retraction. Let me say that also that this isn’t being posted as a subtle “challenge” to get Eastern Orthodox friends to spark a debate. I’m just not really as interested in that as I was as a 21 year-old Calvinist. I’m more interested in union with Christ nowadays, than debating every naysayer. Sorry for that.
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
That was me like 10 years ago, Has nothing to do with gnosticism.
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
And yes, I wavered back and forth between Rome and Eastern Orthodoxy for a good while. Then I took a decade to look into it and all the more became convinced of Orthodoxy. The fact that you think I'm gnostic really shows you have no idea what you are talking about, as this video is against Neoplatonism - which is gnostic. lol
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 7 жыл бұрын
Listen to my two recent talks on the Books of the Kings and tell me how gnostic I am.
@coreolis7
@coreolis7 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell whether this guy is a sincere Christian or some kind of hater, so Im giving up after 6 minutes. And no, in my book, you cannot be both.
@larrycera9276
@larrycera9276 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest watching his debate with atheists. Matt Dyllahunty is one, there is another one with a guy over his head I believe named JP
@cheeseface6328
@cheeseface6328 2 жыл бұрын
Quiet, woman
@EasternOrthodoxChristian
@EasternOrthodoxChristian Жыл бұрын
Amen
@EasternOrthodoxChristian
@EasternOrthodoxChristian Жыл бұрын
@@hap1678 do not compare saints
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