Film Student Watches THE WIRE s4ep1 for the FIRST TIME 'Boys of Summer' Reaction!

[@craigmanning7873]

Pinnacle of what television storytelling can do, this season right here

[@thegrimner]

Opening scene sets the tone, always. Snoop learns info, retains info, then teaches that info to Chris, adapting it to their reality. And in case you were wondering, they were using lye powder on the body. Doesn't dissolve, but it sort of dessicates the flesh so that bodies mummify instead of rot, to avoid stench. Prez's arc is more or less the real life story of Ed Burns, who is the main writers this season. Burns went from homicide detective to school teacher and this season is his baby, more or less .

[@s07561277]

Season 3 is great for sure, but season 4 is really where The Wire goes from being just a really great show to the greatest show of all time.

[@FH-hu5vn]

Carver took Bunny’s talk to heart. Love it.

[@bigwillie54]

This season is so close to my heart. When this show originally aired my Dad used to work Sunday nights so he had me record the episodes on tape so he could watch them. He had me started during Season 3 which was good but Season 4 really did it for me. It probably helped that I was around the age of the cast of the kids and lived a similar life at the time. I related to Randy alot. Anyways I hope you enjoy this season as much as I did

[@alexutopia]

"I am lovable and capable" wasn't meant for the kids. It's a self-affirmation for the teachers, because a lot of them start to crack under the stress.

[@tidepride86]

Lol I dunno who I feel sorry for more sometimes, the teachers or the students

[@johnny-vu6rl]

One of my favorite parts of this show is seeing the scenes in the intro pop up throughout the season

[@monadreher2428]

Ah yes my friend we're finally here. Despite Season 3 being my fave I seriously do believe (among with *many* others) that this is the absolute best season of The Wire. Just incredible television imo. It's considered one of the greatest seasons of television ever produced for a reason. I'm impressed and love that you picked up on Marlo's crew modus operandi already 👏 One of my absolute favorite show don't tell moments in the entire show. It's just so excellently done how they show us what the cops don't know and are baffled about. Snoop's conversation with the store owner establishes that they have been dropping bodies, "five jobs last month" wasn't no hyperbole lmao and then we see them actually taking a life (in a very obvious vacant mind you). Following that we then see them using the nailgun to board up the vacant where they took Lex to get killed. Speaking of, the shot of Chris and Snoop walking past the boarded up vacants at night is one of my favorites in the entire series. For me it makes them give off the vibe of death itself (grim reapers) and is just really frightening on its own and even far more so with greater context. Idk I've just always liked it 😂 Marlo and his crew are scary af. I've just always found it incredible that we get the gist of everything in literally the first episode. One of MANY reasons why I believe that "Boys of Summer" is imho the best season premiere of the show. You're absolutely in for a treat with this season Elie.

[@freebirdallen]

I'm still watching his reactions to season 3 but skipped up to this point to say glad that you are here! I didn't want to comment on one of your older posting but I absolutely knew that you ( probably everyone?) would be here for this episode. As always you have the best comments on reactions for The Wire!

[@monadreher2428]

@@freebirdallen Yesssssss my friend lmaoooo hello great to see you here! And yes you've guessed it all the regulars are here as well 😂😂😂 Elie is fantastic! Definitely hurry and catch up.

[@chriscostelloe8942]

Currently traveling through Switzerland but have been keeping up with your reactions! Thanks, Elie!

[@eliemoses]

Legend

[@pievancl5457]

yes each season introduces and focuses on a different institution (i think thats the word you were looking for) as part of a character study of the systemic whole. just a brilliantly written show. it's structured more like a great novel (or a series of novels) rather than the standard tv show

[@Kleen6288]

Welcome to Season 4 of the Wire, “Where it All Begins Again”

[@Geralto7]

Tommys advisor Norm is one of my favorites.

[@manzell]

IMO this is the single best open in the entire series.

[@notabritperse]

Two things: 1. It's either this one or the alley meet-up between Omar & Brother Mouzone in Season 3. 2. It's this one.

[@chidiumeh]

Welcome to Season 4. A 13 episode horror movie.

[@GeneralZodFDNY77]

Thank God I just got home from the Knicks game. I'm awake for a Wire premiere because of it!😊

[@eliemoses]

oh maddd how was the garden?????? would love to go one day

[@ingsve]

There is small side mission for you. Try to figure out who Randys father is. There will be some hint at some point. The show never makes a deal out of it or conforms it but the creator David Simon has confirmed it outside the show. So see if you can pick up on it.

[@FrenchieQc]

It was going to be confirmed in S5 but they ran out of time, having only 10 episodes, so it was left out since it isn't exactly a major plot point.

[@chidiumeh]

You'll see a lot of shots like that in this season with the blurred city lights in the background - 51:10

[@raulgrijalva16]

Kids in the inner city have to be smart in two different areas school and the streets, one to progress and one to survive it can be taxing for a child

[@HighLordBlazeReborn]

Season 1 introduced how the game is played on both sides of the law. It looked at how drug orgs and the police run on a day to day, down in the trenches way. Season 2 looked at how economics play a role in this mess, how unemployment and blue collar crime feeds into the game and how big players exploit it and how the drugs come in wholesale. Season 3 was politics. Specifically, politics between people and institutions caught up in both running and combating the drug game and how both sides could de-escalate but choose not to for appearances' sake. So far its all been top-down: we've seen how the game and its consequences and responses work. Season 4 is, like you said, going to look at root causes, not just roots. It's the "why" not the "how". We're now looking at what's under the game rather than on top of it, holding it in place from below. Just a tip: pay attention to Tony's campaign. By the end of the season, among many others, you'll realize how tragic that campaign is. Not to spoil anytjing, but this is the season where I think a lot of us truly realized just how much of a clusterfuck this all is.

[@Johnjohn5ive6ix1one]

I got to see both sides growing up I lived in a small town 45 minutes north of Milwaukee Wisconsin And when I was in the 6th grade We moved to south Florida west palm beach to be exact West palm beach Fort Lauderdale and Miami is all connected to each other Like one huge city And I went to Rosevelt middle school All black and me and about 6 other Mexican kids and a about 5 white kids And it was worse then what they portrayed the school system on the wire Girls were fucking in the bathroom Girls 13 14 years old walking around pregnant Fights would break out and the teachers Would stay back and let it go down Because the teachers were scared of the students And in each class you would have 3 to 5 Kids sitting in the front of the class Doing what the teacher was asking them to do The other 15 or 20 kids was shooting dice playing cards hitting on females Or just sleeping First time I ever saw cocaine was in history class my friend Juan was doing lines on his desk with his school book Propt up so the teacher wouldn’t see what he was doing Man I could say a lot more but this comment is long enough

[@crabonator]

My favorite season

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

Elie no human being is the same all the time. We all have emotions and anger, Stress and built up tension. Tommy Carcetti is Human. Some shit you don't want to do but have to because it's the right thing.

[@stevetrop]

I just want to quote horror writer Stephen King and his description of Snoop he said she is "perhaps the most terrifying female villain to ever appear in a television series". Stephen King was a big Wire fan and even Snoop was a level of evil that matched the female characters he wrote of. Get ready for a wild ride this season.

[@FATMAN1988]

Elie Moses, Always right on time ⏲️ 👌 👍 💯

[@wavonbarksdale3771]

Greatest tv season of all time!

[@gbrazor]

You see a young adult Randy on the very first episode of Fear of the Walking Dead. This season is a roller coaster.

[@brazyfilmo3121]

Only show that touched on the school system in the poverty. Only show that does that.

[@kayf8229]

Season 4 is the greatest season in television history. Enjoy.

[@eliemoses]

🫡🫡

[@s.henrlllpoklookout5069]

Salesman sells a nail gun to Snoop And then it gets *dark*

[@DODIRTT]

Without spoiling anything. From my experience to your question about prez and his impact on the kids. Its not as easy for a teacher or anyone on the outside looking in to reach kids in the hood. Its not jist a race thing. Because you saw how black people from the church have difficulties doing the same thing. At the end of the day you can tell these kids what not to do. But its easy to say that when you go home at night to your safe environment while we have to go back to our fucked up environment. You do have to act a certain way.and it could be as simple as defending a friend that could lead into a bigger issue. I personally think the problem is we dont actually tru to understand the situations and environments these kids come from. We will often poont to someone succeed and use his story to say there is no excuse for becoming a criminal. When you live in a environment where crime is the best thing going its hard fof you to listen to someone else. Because to you the shit you see is normal. But this is my personal favorite season. I honestly can see myself in alot of the main cast of kids. And in this seasons i would recommend you pay close attention to each kids personally. They are all wildly different and it will explain the choices they make

[@MarcillaSmith]

Absolutely! How can we adults expect a child to sit and memorize multiplication tables when that child is thinking about having to spend the weekend with no food on the table at home? That is, if they even have a place to call home they feel safe going to.

[@MaxCarter-tl6zf]

Season 4 is very deep and amazingly written. Crazy question could you as a home improvement contractor in Australia own that nail gun with it being gun powder activated?

[@eliemoses]

No idea i need to ask my dad hahaahha. He's a builder but i know he owns 2 nail guns but i think they are battery operated

[@MaxCarter-tl6zf]

I only ask because I remember working with a guy from Ireland and we were talking about season 4 and he told me in Ireland they couldn’t own one. All their nail guns are air and battery powered. Not that it makes too much of a difference just something quirky

[@TB-iq7gx]

Watched a video about the topic of "calling - rooms" in Washington... right across the street of congress (probably a Last Week Tonight Segment) They are famous for breaking and making one term congressmen. Thought they got elected to work but most of the time they are there to beg. If you have an ego like a politician - begging for money 24/7 must be hell - even if you are there for the right reasons. I love thinking back on season 1 episode 1 when watching s4e1: seeing Carver being on first name basis with everyone especially Bodie (the western district way no more) - being happy to see Prez is something nobody can imagine in the first episode - McNulty being sober... the world is on its ass - to quote Carver.

[@justinponkow2378]

The whole series deserves multiple viewings, period. But season 4, I think, does the most the contextualize the rest of the series it's characters. You picked on it already. Season 4 shows where the path starts for many characters.

[@BlackValyria]

In America it...being systematic racism..started in 1492.

[@DODIRTT]

So at 44:38 you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Its a combination of all tboes things you mentioned. Its definitely parenting. Alot of these kids come from broken homes with a lack of discipline. Lack of fathers or poor father figures. With males around the age ofthese boys. Single mothers lose control of them especially if they are working or shit parents. And while one is worse the results are the same. the kids are often time neglected and left by themselves. And in this tyoe of environment there is a good chance theses kids will start to get influenced more by the people in the streets then their parents. Its poor schooling. The standards are not kept up and you have teachers that may or may not give a fuck. You have kids that dont give a fuck either because of multiple reasons. Honestly school work is uninteresting to most kids. But when you lack motivation from both school staff and at home. Its almost like you are in auto piolet. But don't worry. This season is going to go deeper into this issue

[@KaBeeM]

I think they mention at some point that it's been roughly a year since season 3, so Carcetti has been running for that long. American election campaigning must be absolutely grueling. Carcetti is just burned out at this point, that's why he's so on edge. Couple that with the fear of having run for nothing if he loses and I get that he has these moments of just wanting to give up. It must've taken a toll on his family as well, even though the wife doesn't show it and soldiers through.

[@lvcrmamil]

lesgoooo

[@Eggyyolks]

What's up, Patrice? Scariest line in the show.

[@Arsolon618]

One thing that Season 4 shows subtly but surely, is that there's one big thing missing in the lives of all these young boys, no father figure. Father figures are a big sub-theme of this season, keep an eye out for it.

[@nazgul9538]

fun fact: snoop is actually from the streets, the game itself.. and got pulled into this and nailed the role..

[@lecuyerdooley1084]

Fr ... cuz that ninja said it like 50 times lol

[@pievancl5457]

tommy isnt on drugs in the show lol

[@tidepride86]

It always starts at home yo. And that goes for the adults who are in our bloated government and the kids who go to school. If your parents instill work ethic and the importance of delayed gratification. Culture values is another big one.

[@JankyFrameCovers]

PANDEMIC! I GOT THAT PAAANDEMIC!

[@MarcillaSmith]

Pandemic? But I heard WMD is the bomb...?

[@raoulhery]

Pandemic, pandemic, got that pandemic right here.....

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

Yes it makes sense, Kima just worked that Lt. real Lester smooth.

[@chidiumeh]

Shout out to Sonja Sohn the actress who plays Kima. She turns 60 today 🎉

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

@@chidiumeh Snoop/Felicia Pearson that her government. Happy 60th🎶

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

Elie, this season isn't nothing like season 1 with Wallace and those kids. These kids will put those to shame, these are corner kids. Hardcore.

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

The nail gun is to disappear the bodies in the vacant house.

[@lecuyerdooley1084]

With kids, EVERYTHING begins at home. Teachers and principals and social workers don't exist for the first four or five years of a child's life. Parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters do. They are the ones that teach that child how to behave and interact with others in the world. What those people value, the child values. If that's respect, order, discipline -- then the child goes into the school with those values. Clearly, many kids learn very different values and bring those to school with them. Even though the school system has its own values that teachers and other adults try to instill in kids, the kids still spend the majority of their time away from school. And if those kids live in an inner city like Baltimore, the values they are exposed to outside of school are ones that will be in direct opposition to those the school teaches. That's why teaching in those inner-city schools is so taxing; every day, teachers play a losing game trying to teach kids one thing that the parents and the neighborhood contradict.

[@MarcillaSmith]

2 am premiere?!?! Look, we know you're on the other side of the planet, but come on!

[@eliemoses]

Next time earlier my bad its 4 in the arvo for me

[@Chris-ImperialAerosolKid]

Lots of hints in your reactions to suggest you've seen this before

[@Kaspisify]

Like what?

[@Chris-ImperialAerosolKid]

@@Kaspisify if you don't notice then me explaining isn't going to help. You can either read someone or you can't. There are plenty of clues.

[@Kaspisify]

@@Chris-ImperialAerosolKid 😂😂 cool story bro.

[@Chris-ImperialAerosolKid]

@@Kaspisify I can't help you if you're that closed off to the world "bro". Plenty of signs and signals. Let's see what he says.

[@eliemoses]

Honestly i dont usually address these comments but if you come at the king, you best not miss. And you are way off the mark with this comment.

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

Namond the kid with the bushy hair is Wee bey Son. Nothing like bro. And this goes out to all comments towards me. If anything I write ✍🏿 twist you the wrong way, get over it. This show won't change your life and Not one to live for. It was on HBO 20 years ago and it's not Anything in here new. If you're trying to learn something go to your nearest Drug block. Other than that, it's not that serious, I'm not disrespectful until someone is towards me. So please stop Being disrespectful.

[@kayf8229]

Why you In the comments telling him things before he sees it...smh

[@FrenchieQc]

@@kayf8229 the dude can't help it with his big mouth, he's been spoiling stuff from day 1.

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

@@kayf8229 if you watched his live feed yesterday he has seen the full season already. These reactions are pre recorded. 🤨

[@kayf8229]

@BruceJohnson-om5kl so you're just ruining the season for viewers in the comment section that may not have seen the whole season?! Ok great. 👍🏾

[@FrenchieQc]

@@BruceJohnson-om5kl So if he's seen the full season, why do you need to tell him something he already knows?